I like to say that in the age of the pandemic everything old is new again, so much so that I realize that it probably irritates some of my readers. It’s true, though. Perhaps one of the best examples of this is the Brownstone Institute. Its various sycophants, toadies, and lackeys serve as useful idiots to promote Brownstone’s Great Barrington Declaration (GBD) “natural herd immunity and antivax propaganda for Jeffrey Tucker—who, as you’ll recall, was instrumental in bringing together the authors of the GBD for the libertarian “free market” think tank American Institute for Economic Research (AIER) and later left to found the Brownstone Institute, the “spiritual child of the GBD”_ but end up sounding not like anything new. Rather, they sound just like the antivaxxers that I first started writing about nearly two decades ago. Take Alan Lash, for example.
I had never heard of Alan Lash before I encountered his writing recently, but apparently he’s a software developer with a Masters degree Physics and a PhD in Mathematics, all of which might be impressive in the context of “building applications that help make your business processes more efficient” and “data visualization delivery platform, business intelligence, approval workflow, systems integration, document management, and systems control” but is not so impressive in the context of discussing medicine and healthcare. In any case, when I saw an article by him at that wretched hive of scum and COVID-19 quackery, the Brownstone Institute website, entitled Can We Still Trust the Doctor? it brought back memories of prepandemic antivax and quack messaging, which sought to portray “conventional” physicians—you know, those pesky docs who insist on practicing science- and evidence-based medicine and, as part of that, promoting vaccination—as untrustworthy and to be ignored.
Indeed, Lash’s article follows a common pattern that I’ve seen in antivax and quack articles attacking evidence-based doctors going back to…the early 2000s at least:
When I was growing up, I learned to trust my doctor. My parents never said that explicitly; I could see it in their actions.
I was in the hospital many times growing up, sometimes for very serious reasons. I have eight siblings, and I’m one of the elders, so I was there on the numerous occasions my mother gave birth. I was also there when my brother split his head open with the claw of a hammer, and of course, I was there for the stitches and broken bones I suffered myself.
Whenever we entered the hospital, we did so with the utmost respect and reverence. As the doctors and nurses busied themselves about with serious and commanding countenance, my father would marvel at the technology and the expertise required to marshal it all for the betterment of humanity.
Whatever the opinion, whatever the diagnosis, my parents would follow the doctor’s advice and prescription, to the letter.
Put succinctly, doctors and nurses were to be trusted, sometimes with our lives.And why might that be, Mr. Lash?
You know what’s coming next just from the opening paragraphs. First, Lash sets up a supposed “golden age” past in which doctors were trustworthy and (usually) correct. They were supposedly treated with the “utmost respect and reverence,” which might or might not have been true, although it is true that physicians were probably more trusted decades ago than they are now. On the other hand, I can’t help but point out that Lash is arguably correct about doctors not being as trustworthy as once thought, but not for the reasons he will claim. After all, the proliferation of doctors who since the pandemic have turned into cranks, quacks, antivaxxers, and grifters should shake your faith in the medical field. Doctors, it turns out, are no less susceptible to errors in reasoning that lead to embracing pseudoscience and conspiracy theories than anyone else. You would think that they should be more resistant to conspiracy theories, but anyone—such as myself and others who have long written about medical quackery and antivax grift—knew that, as a profession, physicians are not.
Of course, that’s not where Lash is heading, as anyone who’s read this blog for a while (or paid attention to Brownstone Institute) could easily predict. I will point out that Lash’s pivot isn’t as fast as it usually is in antivax writings. Instead of going straight for the “I don’t trust doctors anymore because they recommend masking, COVID-19 vaccines, etc.” gambit, he works his way there a bit slowly, telling how he never went to the doctor in the 1980s because he was in his 20s. (That makes him likely within a few years of my age, maybe slightly older.) Lash then introduces his father, who “suffered a heart attack,” “being overweight with high blood pressure,” was “prescribed multiple medications,” because he “trusted the doctor,” leading him to “dutifully” take his pills as instructed.
Lash then uses this observation—finally!—as the setup:
On a few occasions, he had a couple of his medications pulled for newly discovered side effects, and they were quickly replaced with others. This was only mildly concerning. But then in the 2000s we started hearing about the failure of many pharmaceutical drugs, some catastrophically so.
Doctors seemingly trusted the pharmaceutical companies, and we trusted doctors. Millions of people suffered and many died as a result.
Did the doctors question the pharmaceutical products before prescribing them to their patients? I’m sure many did, but unfortunately, it seems many more did not.
My father ultimately died in 2010 from his third heart attack. The surgical stents clearly prolonged his life. But did the medications prolong his life? It’s not clear.
Not knowing the details of his father’s case, it’s hard to comment, but there is little doubt that, for example, controlling hypertension and controlling lipid and cholesterol levels (especially after a myocardial infarction) do, statistically speaking, result in longer life expectancies and decrease the risk of second events. This is not even controversial in cardiology and the medical literature (especially the part about controlling hypertension). While it’s impossible ever to say whether interventions like controlling hypertension prolong the life of an individual patient, it is possible to say that it is quite likely that it does. Also, the very fact that Lash’s father had a second and then a third heart attack tells me very clearly that he had bad progressive disease.
I will also note before moving on that physician capture by pharmaceutical companies has been a problem, but you just know that a nuanced, evidence-based discussion of whether doctors are too fast to prescribe pharmaceutical medication is not what Lash is about. I also can’t help but point out the typical anti-pharma narrative that doctors “never” discuss lifestyle changes and diet with patients like Lash’s father is a massive exaggeration. They surely do, but the current medical model of short patient visits seldom allows adequate time to go into depth about such issues. It’s a systemic problem that hamstrings even the doctors most dedicated to working with patients to achieve a healthy diet and lifestyle.
Inevitably, Lash gets to COVID-19 vaccines, because of course he does. That’s where this was always going:
I went for a check-up in the fall, and the nurse asked me if I was interested in a Covid vaccination. If I had any questions I was to ask the doctor when he arrived. So I did. I asked somewhat searchingly, “What are your feelings about the vaccine with all that’s happened and all we found out in the past year?”
“Well, “ he responded with a straight face, “from all the medical research papers I have read, the vaccines are safe and effective.”
I sat in dumbfounded silence. At a bare minimum, he should know at least not to use that phrase.
Why again are we wearing masks when we are in the doctor’s office? They don’t work.
Then there are the endless emails from my health care provider promoting the vaccine for everyone: adults, children, compromised or not, comorbidities or not. There is no reference to any potential qualifiers. Everyone should get it.
Have they not been paying attention?Actually, we have been paying attention. People like Mr. Lash, in contrast, have been paying selective attention.
It’s interesting to look at the articles linked to in the passage above, both of which come from the Brownstone Institute. For example, the bit on “safe and effective” links to an article by Brownstone flack Thomas Harrington, a Professor Emeritus of Hispanic Studies at Trinity College in Hartford, CT, whose research was “Iberian movements of national identity and contemporary Catalan culture,” which clearly makes him qualified to discuss how “safe and effective” is defined. In the article, he risibly tries to argue that the government has committed fraud by declaring COVID-19 vaccines to be “safe and effective,” without actually showing that (1) the vaccines are not safe and effective and (2) that the government knew that they weren’t.
The second link about masks is from Dr. Paul Alexander, who has gone so far down the conspiracy rabbit hole since his days as a Trump administration advisor who sent an email declaring that “we want them [children, young people] infected” to “establish herd immunity.” Since then, believe it or not, he’s gotten even worse, as a look at his Substack, where he grinds out multiple posts a day in which he sounds like a conspiracy-addled squirrel with ADHD, should tell you how unreliable he is as a source of information about COVID-19. I’ve discussed some examples before; so I will not go into detail here, other than that the article is over a year old and basically cited articles on masks whether they were about COVID or not in a nonsystematic way. I will note, however, that, interestingly, Lash didn’t refer to the deceptive message about the Cochrane meta-analysis published last month which did not show that masks “don’t work” but was relentlessly spun that way by Brownstone, Fox News, and every other antivax, COVID-minimizing propaganda outfit out there.
In fact, I have to give Lash some credit for cleverly embedding his message of distrusting doctors into a plea for doctors to be trustworthy and an admission that nonphysicians can’t do what doctors do. For instance, early in the article, he declares:
By contrast, my parents did not treat other professional activities with the same regard. My father depended on car mechanics at times, but he did so grudgingly. He was always suspicious that the diagnosis was incorrect, and that his own personal research into the issue was warranted before he accepted the conclusion. We had several shop manuals on our shelves in the garage.
Likewise, building contractors were treated with some suspicion. Do-it-yourself was always present as a valid option.
But question a doctor? Never.
I can’t help but snark a bit here that these days people like Lash appear to trust plumbers, mechanics, and contractors way more than they do doctors. They seem to think that they know better how the human body works, how it falls ill, and how to treat the body when it does fall ill. Indeed, Lash himself seems to think that! Just look at his questioning whether drugs prolonged his father’s life after his first heart attack and his bluntly declaring that COVID-19 vaccines are not safe and effective and that masks don’t work, even as his doctors tell him otherwise. He wants to have it both ways.
Cleverly, though, he divides doctors into “good” doctors and “bad” doctors. (Of course, I do the same thing, too, but I exactly reverse the labels that I apply to members of each group compared to how Lash clearly labels them.) He praises the “good” doctors and attacks the “bad,” declaring that “they” have “been burned by the Covid nonsense in the last three years,” that our “loved ones have suffered,” and that “we don’t see common sense from the medical establishment”:
Many of you stood up in the past three years, putting your careers on the line for the truth and the health of your patients. Thank you.
Many of you have laid low, promoted your medical organization’s message, even if you had misgivings. Maybe you trusted the government and Big Pharma too much.
Left out of this equation is how many of those physicians who have “put their careers on the line” did not do it for the “truth and the health” of their patients (although some of them might have thought they did). Rather, they did it because they embraced pseudoscience, quackery, and conspiracy theories. Many of them embraced COVID grift in a huge way. As I like to say, it might be about ideology and belief at first, but very often it soon becomes all about the grift.
To make his attack on doctors seem more credible, Lash actually admits that he can’t figure out pharmaceuticals, which makes his blunt declaration that COVID-19 vaccines are unsafe and don’t work rather risible:
Prescription drugs? Not so easy. The information is there on the Internet, but it’s often contradictory, and sometimes nothing matches what your doctor said. Then there’s the sheer magnitude of prescription drugs available.
Do it yourself? Impossible. Trust the government to police the pharmaceutical companies? Impossible. We’ve seen the incest there.
There is only one solution. It’s the same answer as it was for my father: trust your doctor.
He even declares that our “lives are better when we trust you,” but predictably adds that “right now, many of us are hesitant” and have been “burned by the Covid nonsense in the last three years.” What he asks for next would seem very reasonable if you didn’t know the context in which it was being asked and what, as a Brownstone Institute flack, he really means:
- Critical regard for pharmaceutical products
- Clear and open communication with your patients
- Critical regard for your own medical organization
- Above all, treat your patient as an individual
Who as a doctor doesn’t want to exemplify these things? Of course, for each of these bullet points, I like to quote The Princess Bride: “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.” And it does not. Lash’s “critical regard for pharmaceutical products” means accepting his fear mongering about COVID-19 vaccines. His desire for doctors engaging in “clear and open communication” and admitting when they don’t know something means that he wants doctors to say that they don’t know whether the “party line” about COVID-19 and vaccines is accurate. “Critical regard for your own medical organization” means, “Don’t agree with them when they promote COVID-19 vaccines (because they are corrupt).”
And “treat your patient as an individual”? That has been the reasonable guideline that quacks have co-opted as a deceptive mantra to justify subjecting their patients to whatever quackery they want going back as long as I can remember and likely to long before I was born. It serves as, when wielded by someone like Lash or one of the quacks he likely admires, a justification to ignore medical evidence and do whatever the quack wants. Don’t believe me? Look at another article by Lash in which cites the pandemic’s wrongest man Alex Berenson and laments:
Last month Alex Berenson provided details of yet another example of a 14-year-old girl named Yulia Hicks. Duke University surgeons took her off of the kidney transplant list because she is not vaccinated. We were horrified in hearing such examples a full year ago, but incredulously they continue.
Lash is “horrified”? Transplant patients are very much part of the one group that Brownstone flacks sometimes admit should probably be vaccinated: the immunosuppressed. If this patient got a kidney, she would need to be on lifelong immunosuppression, which would have made her very high risk for COVID-19. Even if you accept the antivax argument that teens are at such low risk for COVID that they don’t need to be vaccinated (which I do not, but roll with me here a minute), after transplant that teen would then become someone who is at very high risk of death and complications if she were to be infected with COVID-19. It thus makes perfect sense to vaccinate her before she gets a kidney, so that her immune system will be intact and generate the best response to the vaccine, because after she goes on lifelong immunosuppression her response to vaccines will never be as good again. This is the simple reason why it has long generally been a requirement that transplant recipients be up-to-date on their recommended vaccines before being placed on the transplant list. People like Lash almost certainly never questioned the simple requirement (if they knew about it at all) before COVID vaccines.
Funny how Lash never questioned doctors until they said things that clashed with his ideology.
In the end, Lash is a crappy scientist and knows little or nothing about medicine, but he is a very good propagandist, as evidenced by how he slickly packaged very old antivax tropes about not trusting your doctor and accusing doctors of being “captured” by “big pharma” with respect to vaccines. Antivaxxers were doing that in 2005 (and before), and antivaxxers like Lash continue it now for COVID-19 vaccines, repackaging old antivax propaganda in clever new forms.
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” First, Lash sets up a supposed ‘golden age’ past** when doctors were trustworthy and (usually) correct.”
Is that the same or different from golden ages
when doctors were likely to sit down and pray with you ( source: prn.live)
or a golden age when doctors followed “first do not harm”
or when wise women treated illness, dispensing herbs, roots and wisdom
or when people lived close to Mother Nature and never needed doctors at all
So many golden ages, so little time.
** but they “endorsed” smoking? SRSLY
While it’s true that there were doctors who took tobacco money to spin studies as showing no harm from tobacco, that doesn’t mean doctors were ever saying that smoking was GOOD for you. (Hint: With rare exceptions, they didn’t; the “best” they would say is that smoking wasn’t particularly harmful.) Those doctors in those tobacco ads weren’t doctors. They were actors or models. Funny how antivaxxers never seem to realize that.
“I’m not a doctor, but I play one on TV!”
My aunt has done a course to be able to work in a tobacco-store, because her dad had one and she already learned that smoking was bad for your health. This was probably not long after the war.
Of course I was joking ( note the SRSLY!) I know all about those cigarette ads and how woo-meisters try to represent them as what real doctors to patients said when they were merely crappy ad copy.
But I just couldn’t resist reacting to that image.
Also, my older cousin always said that high school health class included horrifying images of lung cancer surgeries to scare kids away from smoking ( 1960s?)
I didn’t have that but for me high school ended in 1974.
However, before high school (grade and middle) we were shown some horrific movies [for kids of that age] about the dangers of hitch hiking.
The idea that smoking is bad for you goes at least as the mid 16th century which is when the import of tobacco to Europe started and a huge swath of the population got addicted. It makes you cough and impairs physical performance.
Good article! Thanks.
It would seem that in their universe, the only time to trust pharmaceuticals is when you’re using them inappropriately, as in “hydroxybonercream” as Evan Hurst calls it on Wonkette, and ivermectin.
That said, I do know a guy who took Ivermectin, and it worked perfectly! [On the intestinal parasite he’d picked up in sub-Saharan Africa.]
It is amusing that people with no medical education like Mr. Lash and myself opine on medical treatments such as vaccines.
What is even more amusing is that the global vaccine response, the major vaccine promoting charitable organizations, and numerous “global stakeholders” organizations are guided by a completely uneducated old rich man named Bill, who has no higher education whatsoever but nevertheless leads vaccine decision making and “global pandemic response”.
JFC Igor, you are drifting more and more into the asinine world of conspiracies that clowns like labarge and Lucas inhabit: you [like them] don’t know wtf your’e talking about, but any bit of made up bull crap that agrees with your predetermined views must be valid. Before you were simply dishonest: now you’re including pathetic.
You did say something right: it is amusing that you feel you have anything important to say about medical treatments: you’re never correct of course, but your stupidity is amusing.
Could you clarify, what is the conspiracy that you are referring to?
That an old rich uneducated man named Bill is leading the global pandemic response and global vaccination efforts, is commonly known, right?
The word “leading” is doing some seriously heavy lifting here.🤦🏻♂️
What Orac said. Also that there is a single plan headed by one person — I would say I don’t know how stupid you need to be in order to believe that one, but since you believe it I do know how stupid: on the order of one Igor Chudov.
It is amusing that alt med/antivax cranks must have a Bogeyman to rail against. These days Bill Gates is the main target of conspiracy-philes, but a surprising number still are obsessed with Morris Fishbein, the A.M.A. leader who specialized in taking down quacks.
Maybe Fishbein is covertly leading the anti-Covid effort from the grave (eek).
Actually Bill Gates donates money for vaccines and not globally. Governments pay them in rich countries.
Gates. of course, takes medical advice:
You should do, too.
Could you clarify why you mean by “leading”?
And please be specific.
===> Could you clarify why you mean by “leading”?
And please be specific.
Absolutely! Someone much more talented and tenacious than I am documented “How Bill Gates and his partners took over the global Covid response”. A very detailed Politico article (no right-wing conspiratorial sources for you) is right here:
Some juicy quotes:
“What followed was a steady, almost inexorable shift in power from the overwhelmed governments to a group of non-governmental organizations, according to a seven-month investigation by POLITICO journalists based in the U.S. and Europe and the German newspaper WELT. Armed with expertise, bolstered by contacts at the highest levels of Western nations and empowered by well-grooved relationships with drug makers, the four organizations took on roles often played by governments — but without the accountability of governments.
“What makes Bill Gates qualified to be giving advice and advising the U.S. government on where they should be putting the tremendous resources?” asked Kate Elder, senior vaccines policy adviser for the Doctors Without Borders’ Access Campaign.
While dozens of global health organizations participated in the world’s response to Covid, the POLITICO and WELT investigation focused on these four organizations because of their connections to one another — both Gavi and CEPI received seed funding from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation — and because they together played a critical role in advising governments and the WHO.
Much of the groups’ clout with the WHO stems simply from money. Since the start of the pandemic in 2020, the Gates Foundation, Gavi, and the Wellcome Trust have donated collectively more than $1.4 billion to the WHO — a significantly greater amount than most other official member states, including the United States and the European Commission, according to data provided by the WHO.
But even though the foundation’s expertise was obvious — Bill Gates and Melinda French Gates had made fighting viruses a major part of their life’s work — the fact that crucial decisions were being refracted through American billionaires and the massive network they’d established raised concerns among some officials as well as grassroots activists on the outside.”
Igor, your article does not support your “Gates is running things” bullshit. It documents how difficult it was for organizations that had been underfunded to quickly gather resources as well as pointing out something we already knew: things were changing so quickly mistakes were made.
You are truly one of the dullest butter knives in the kitchen.
Interesting thing that you quote this:
“But even though the foundation’s expertise was obvious — Bill Gates and Melinda French Gates had made fighting viruses a major part of their life’s work — the fact that crucial decisions were being refracted through American billionaires and the massive network they’d established raised concerns among some officials as well as grassroots activists on the outside.”
No mention of college dropouts
Where is Fauci now ? I though it was he who advised US government on COVID
MSF actually likes COVID vaccines:
Problem is the patents.
That’s something that Corbevax was intended to address.
Nobody at NICE gives a flying fuck about Bill.
You’ve just never really been forced to face your own ignorance. I blame the parents.
Hi, regarding “facing down my ignorance”:
My deep interest in Covid-19 started in early Jan 2020 and brought me certain pecuniary gains:
In 2020 I had a very nice financial gain by putting a lot of money in stocks on Mar 24, 2020 due to realizing that “we will somehow pull through it” – because I was very informed
In 2022 I made very nice money on Moderna puts, that I bought in 2021, despite earlier losses from put positions expiring out of money.
Covid pandemic is a bad thing. However, following it was incredibly interesting and I feel animated and on top of things. Life is no longer boring, like it was before the pandemic.
I am Covid-unvaccinated, even though at some point I recall being on the fence regarding vaccinating myself. I had one Covid so far, knocking on wood. Definitely NOT regretting not getting the vaccine, so far.
You really believe that Bill Gates guides global health policy ? And not Fauci ? Or are you just playing for the stupid gallery ?
C’mon! It’s common knowledge that Bill Gates is now only a bot executing RC instructions from Fauci’s AI, which was provided to him by the CCP, based on technology they received from shape-shifting reptilian ETs. I read all about it on the Interwebz!!
Lash is “horrified” that the transplant patient was required to be vaccinated?
I’m horrified that Lash and other anti-science, anti-vaccine morons are so stupid that they don’t understand the straightforward concept of not “throwing good money after bad”.
As Orac explains it is quite simple:
The patient is going to be very, very susceptible to infectious diseases after the transplant and they should show serious commitment to maintaining their health. If that is too much to ask they go to the bottom of the list so someone who will take the transplant seriously can have the procedure.
I suppose Lash is “horrified” that a smoker facing a lung transplant and who declares they will not stop smoking 3 packs a day is taken off the transplant list…
Just how dumb is this Lash knucklehead?
Promoting idiotic and potentially deadly actions seems to be Berenson’s and Brownstonian’s raison d’être.
These are not intelligent people.
These are not nice people.
Not only that, but many transplants require that someone DIE to make the organ available. It’s not only about money, it’s about respecting the deep generosity of the donor and their loved ones.
During this pandemic, Lash becomes the latest in a long line of way too many tech bro types with delusions of medical omniscience from their PhD and/or business success. They grift for greed and glory and Brownstone sucks in their souls like a Hoover from hell.
Here in the distant antipodes, a Roy Morgan poll in 2021 found that the top three most trusted professions in Australia were:
There doesn’t seem to be much erosion of trust in those numbers, though the figures for all three were down 6-8% from 2017. Health professionals are almost always at the top of polls like this here.
It’s amazing how many non-scientists start movements which address scientific ideas. The founder of intelligent design creationism was a lawyer. It’s almost as if they started with an agenda and tried to massage the science to support it.
I trust and distrust pharmaceutical companies in a way exactly opposite to these people. When they price gouge, try to re-patent medications, or engage in other unethical behavior, I get disgusted. When they develop safe and effective vaccines in record time, I applaud them.
No, tell me that can’t happen. Who would do that?
Seriously though, another crank writing for the Brownstone Institute (yes, Lash is clearly a crank) seems to be a daily occurrence. In a lot of ways, these people with their motivated reasoning are not too different to Mike Adams.
” … another crank writing for the Brownstone Institute (yes, Lash is clearly a crank) seems to be a daily occurrence.”
Oh, noes!!! How will our host keep up with this eruption of BS?
It’s not like he has anything better to do, except, y’know, saving peoples’ lives.
I’ve been meaning to ask my physics colleagues to invent a time machine that lets someone work 40 hours a day (like Ling Ling’s practice schedule, for you Two Set Violin fans out there), but so far they’ve come up empty. When they finally figure it out, I’ll propose that our host be the first test subject. If he comes back with two heads, well, that’s twice the brainpower, right?
I’ve long imagined that if you had a time machine and went 30 years into the future the only revelation you’d have is that you’d been considered “missing” for 30 years.
What you guys said about tech bros and non-scientists!
I’ve often noted that amongst non-physicians I survey that the lot of them together appear to NOT have as much life science education as I have and I’m not a physician or biologist.
SBM and biology are complex, intricate and constantly updating, making them rife for mining topics for “educating” followers who know even less than they do. I imagine that personality similarities might make them attractive as well: maverick, rebel, upstart, conspiracy loving, revolutionary know-it-all Galilei ! Some branch out from woo to social sciences- psychology, economics and political science- preaching to and advising their entranced thralls. Anti-vax/ health freedom advocates/ proselytisers include many lawyers and business men ( it’s mostly men) as well as outraged mothers.
Mike Adams may have started as a ( semi) tech bro as his degree is in technical writing about computers plus he made his first fortunes selling spam software and Y2K scams. Home schooled Del Bigtree has no degrees whatsoever but studied television production as an adult. RFK jr has accredited degrees in history and law. Sayer Ji has an accredited degree in philosophy. Gary Null as a two year “career school” degree in business, an “alternate paths” degree and a mail order doctorate.
Their MO is to work against the concept of expertise itself: researchers shouldn’t be trusted, the government and pharmaceutical corporations are aligned against the public, the media is corrupt as well. Anyone can trump established SBM with several hours searching the net. Usually, adults develop a sense of how much they know about a given subject yet this capacity that usually matures during adolescence, seems curiously, strikingly absent in many of the people I survey. Grade school children can tell you that they’re better in one subject than another.
Then, there’s conflicts of interest: they sell alternate information, health products and themselves.
In other news…
Mike Adams features Stella Immanuel ( NN, yesterday) discussing…….demons
He shows a time line of his broadcast so you can skip to her directly
I would love to do a chart review on her patients (Assuming she even charts.) I wonder how many of the patients under her care have basic things like hypertension controlled? It shocks me how some people are allowed to practice at all.
I found these items astounding:
Is there a big income stream connected with writing those worthless prescriptions?
I did the maths. If he was writing prescriptions every day of the year, he would be writing 190 A DAY. Dodgy is an understatement.
@Julian: She delegated prescriptive authority:
ldw56old: As I recall, the main AFLDS instantiation of the routine was charging $195 per telehealth appointment to buy a script (when they actually returned the call; the payment was up-front).
Yeah. That says it all. There is no way in hell she examined that many patients in any meaningful way or reviewed ANY medical information on ANY of them. I really wish they would start making an example out of these kinds of people.
HCQ is a known QT prolonging agent. Bet she didn’t get 69k EKGs and review all of them. Bet she didn’t check lytes on all of them. I wonder if she has killed anyone or thrown anyone into a rhythm that took the ER to fix? You’re also supposed to routinely check a blood count on patients on HCQ. I wonder if we will ever know how much this idiocy and greed cost all of us? Make no mistake, WE probably paid for this damage either through Medicare or ER visits.
IVM can and DOES cause neurotoxicity, especially at the kinds of doses these idiots are using. When used appropriately, it’s a single dose maybe with one followed on 10-14 days later not DAILY. Has she checked on any of these patients? Did she do baseline neuro exams like you’re supposed to? Near as I can tell from the literature, it happens about 3% of the time so she might have neuro-poisoned almost 1,000 people with something that doesn’t work against covid?
These things are not just safe to throw around, especially when they’re using them off label.
A lot of trolls love to come on here and whine about medications getting thrown around, side effects, big pharma, drugs are dangerous!! Etc. there is no proof that the covid vaccines have ever caused 1000 cases of neurological damage in the billions of doses administered but here’s one of these cranks who may have all by herself. Where’s the outrage?! Where’s the call for a tribunal for her?!
One patient with IVM told me she paid $225 at the height of the pandemic for the “consultation” to get the drugs then had to pay out of pocket for them at the pharmacy. I’ll give this quack the benefit of the doubt and say she was only charging $100…that’s possibly $10 million she made. No wonder these people also hate the IRS.
Where is the outrage from our usual detractors here? Come on, TEN MILLION dollars. I’ll never make that much in my entire career unfucking messes people like this “Doctor” make. Tell me again why you think Orac and I deserve a “tribunal” and she doesn’t???
@ Dr Yeti:
Dr Immanuel has a website, drstellamd.com, where she arranges telemedicine appointments and sells HCQ, ivermectin and supplements so I imagine she has some woo for hypertension too.
“Pray the stroke away?” LOL!
Awareness is spreading about another deadly peril, astutely noted by Natural News:
“People injected with COVID-19 vaccines are shedding and transmitting GRAPHENE to the unvaccinated, warns doctor”
Spike proteins, now graphene – and next it’ll be revealed that clots are being shed, too! Beware, Igor and other unvaccinated posters! Don’t on any account visit restaurants, stores and other public venues! Stay indoors! Save yourselves!!!
*Notice that Orac has never denied that shedding and chip implantation occur just through visiting Respectful Insolence?
I’m constantly amazed at the in-depth analytical equipment that even the tiniest US country practice seems to be equipped with. I imagine a doctor talking to Superman, “Yes, but OTHER than X-ray vision and laser eyes, what have you got?”.
Meanwhile, in the UK, we could run out of butterfly needles.
Bill Gates doesn’t influence or make policy, he doesn’t advise either. He just puts money into something that betters or improve the lives of people, mostly in countries under developed or poorer economies AFTER the fact of vaccines and medication became available. Or he puts money into research. Thanks to Bill, we are a step closer to eradicating polio. He is often attacked by anti vaxxers because of all the above. Sure, he is super rich. How many super rich people do the same.
I am waiting for Igor to push something about George Soros next so I can fill in another spot on my anti-vaccer stupidity bingo card.
George Soros was wise enough not to get into “Covid vaccines” and “Covid response”.
Go update your stupidity card now
Don’t worry igor, you’re still tied with lucas and labarge at the top.
“George Soros And Bill Gates’ Backed Consortium To Buy U.K. Maker Of Covid Tests For $41 Million”
You can’t even keep your own bullshit straight, can you?
“Covid vaccines” scare quotes dufass
Maybe they’ll buy Novavax too.
The company seems to have a cash problem, but we really could use another vaccine technology.
Some anti-vaxxers ( AoA, CHD etc) make much of the fact that Gates dropped out of university when they didn’t as if that were the only factor determining a person’s value or ability.
Gates probably has enough money to start his own university or buy a well known one. ALSO he can hire/ engage experts in any field including medicine and public health as well as technology as advisors for what he funds. He can also learn from instruction.
The chief problem concerning anti-vax “thought leaders” is that their idea of expertise varies greatly from what PH and other life scientists accept. I’ve speculated about how they select their “experts” and it often seems to boil down to agreement with their altie BS and personality qualities.
side note: Larry Cook is back on Twitter ( @ stopvaccinating) and so is Katie Wright ( @ katiewr31413491) after her semi-nude selfie a few weeks ago
More goodness from Steve Kirsch’s Substack:
“On a recent Southwest flight, I offered $10,000 to the people sitting next to me to remove their face masks for the remainder of the flight. No takers…”
Well Steve, most likely they correctly figured you were a nutcase.
This is the guy who stalked/harassed a CDC doctor at her home until the police were called to shoo him away. Next, he’ll probably start banging on random doors in his neighborhood to demand that homeowners sign antivax petitions and subscribe to his newsletter.
*on a recent American flight, a pre-flight announcement asked passengers to respect their neighbors’ decisions on mask-wearing. Guess Steve didn’t get the memo.
I’m guessing he didn’t actually make that offer — he was just trying to show his supporters how “sheeplike” people who are concerned about their health really are.
But I suppose it is possible he did make the offer and was turned down — likely because the person he talked to knew kirsch would never make good on the payment.
I’m currently 34000 ft in the sky, on a flight to DIA and only two people wearing Masks.
Don’t you guys remember when everyone cheered on the airlines when the mask mandate was terminated?
Oh wait, you don’t get out much..,
You have to start thinking in terms of distribution frequencies. You are a minority, FYI. And it is quite obvious if you pay attention.
Figure it out. Or get out in the world.
Fight your bias.
I only see a couple of people a week wearing masks. Not sure what your point is. That people don’t like wearing them? You’re in the US. Take a look at your obesity rate and see if people always do what’s healthiest for themselves.
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