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“America’s Frontline Doctors” sue over deaths from COVID-19 vaccines. Hilarity ensues.

This week, “America’s Frontline Doctors” (who are doctors, but hardly “frontline”) announced a lawsuit over 45,000 “covered up deaths” due to COVID-19 vaccines. Hilarity ensued, as the bad science and conspiracy theories were epic, as has been the grift.

Does anyone remember “America’s Frontline Doctors”? To be honest, after having featured them in a retrospective about doctors behaving badly in 2020, I had (mostly) forgotten about this group of not really “frontline” doctors who had become the face quacks fronting an astroturf lobbying campaign after their moment in in the spotlight around a year ago. Sure, a year ago I simultaneously laughed and became angry at their credulous promotion of hydroxychloroquine as a miracle cure for COVID-19, commenting on their propaganda efforts in a post in which I likened hydroxychloroquine to the Black Knight of COVID-19 treatments, in a nod to the iconic character in Monty Python and the Holy Grail who, after each successive limb was lopped off by King Arthur, would say thinks like, “It’s just a flesh wound.” Of course, since then hydroxychloroquine has faded as more and more evidence has shown that it doesn’t work, only to be replaced by ivermectin, a very likely ineffective treatment that has risen to become the new hydroxychloroquine—with added incompetence and fraud behind it.

Unfortunately, “America’s Frontline Doctors” are back, and this time they’ve filed a “petition for a temporary restraining order” in the federal court for the Northern District of Alabama, demanding that FDA not grant an emergency use authorization (EUA) for COVID-19 vaccines for children under the age of 16. Before I get into the risibly bad science and bizarre claims behind the petition, leaving the actual legal aspects in the capable hands of Dorit Reiss, let’s take a brief trip down memory lane.

So let’s look back to last July, almost exactly a year ago, when “America’s Frontline Doctors” were featured in a viral video promoting hydroxychloroquine as a miracle cure for COVID-19. Unsurprisingly, it turned out that dark money from right wing groups promoting the “reopen America” agenda were behind the video, and it didn’t take long for the many dubious claims made by the “frontline doctors” in the video to come to light.

More interestingly, the doctors themselves were a collection of cranks and quacks, the likes of which I hadn’t seen since the heyday of the “autism biomed” quackery movement more than a decade earlier. For instance, the group’s leader, Dr. Simone Gold (who also had a JD), was a “concierge immediate-needs physician,” who offered private medical consultations. Unsurprisingly, she later became a regular speaker at QAnon and “anti-lockdown” rallies. Some examples of her takes:

That last Tweet reminds me of another scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail:

And who could forget Dr. Stella Immanuel, another prominent member of this group “frontline doctors”? In case you’ve forgotten, here’s a reminder:

A Houston doctor who praises hydroxychloroquine and says that face masks aren’t necessary to stop transmission of the highly contagious coronavirus has become a star on the right-wing internet, garnering tens of millions of views on Facebook on Monday alone. Donald Trump Jr. declared the video of Stella Immanuel a “must watch,” while Donald Trump himself retweeted the video.

Before Trump and his supporters embrace Immanuel’s medical expertise, though, they should consider other medical claims Immanuel has made—including those about alien DNA and the physical effects of having sex with witches and demons in your dreams.

Immanuel, a pediatrician and a religious minister, has a history of making bizarre claims about medical topics and other issues. She has often claimed that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are in fact caused by people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches.

She alleges alien DNA is currently used in medical treatments, and that scientists are cooking up a vaccine to prevent people from being religious. And, despite appearing in Washington, D.C. to lobby Congress on Monday, she has said that the government is run in part not by humans but by “reptilians” and other aliens.

You might remember the run of “demon sperm” jokes last August. Dr. Immanuel was the source of the jokes, but not because she was joking.

Then there was Dr. James Todaro, an ophthalmologist. Interestingly, we had met him before on this blog in the context of the SurgiSphere debacle. This particular “frontline” ophthalmologist might have been correct about how bad the SurgiSphere study was, but was later wrong about just about everything else having to do with hydroxychloroquine. I also found out that he was buddies with Didier Raoult, the “brave maverick doctor” and bully who initially published a truly awful, incompetently done (and perhaps even downright fraudulent) study claiming that hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin clear coronavirus in 100% of cases. Even later, I learned that it was probably Dr. Todaro who was most responsible for sparking President Trump’s obsession with hydroxychloroquine early in the pandemic.

I could go on about the other not frontline doctors in “America’s Frontline Doctors,” but let’s get to the lawsuit. Interestingly enough, I first learned of it from a reader (I guess) who sent me a link to a World Net Daily article (never a good sign) entitled Bombshell lawsuit charges vaccine deaths being concealed (because of course there’s mass death and a “conspiracy” to cover it up). It’s basically a republication of a blog post by Leo Hohmann, Bombshell lawsuit alleges government covering up tens of thousands of injection-related deaths:

Attorney Thomas Renz filed a lawsuit in federal court in Alabama on July 19 that alleges a massive government cover-up of injection-related U.S. deaths that number “at least 45,000.”

The suit, filed on behalf of America’s Frontline Doctors in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Alabama, is based on a sworn statement by a government insider under federal whistleblower protection.

Speaking at the Re-awaken Tour event held July 17-18 in Anaheim, California, Renz made the bombshell announcement he says is based on a whistleblower with access to government computers and can prove that “at least 45,000” Americans have already been killed by the three COVID-19 vaccines authorized for emergency use by the FDA.

Here’s the video of his talk:

Predictably, Renz starts out by crying “censorship” and “persecution,” predicting that his announcement would be “censored” within hours and accusing social media companies of being “complicit” in causing death, getting a cheer by saying how he can’t wait to sue these companies “over and over again.” (I might actually somewhat agree with this latter statement, but not for “censoring” anything Renz has to say or the reasons he does, but rather because of how social media algorithms have so facilitated the spread of antivaccine and anti-public health disinformation during. the pandemic.) What amazes me about this lawsuit is how it is based on a conspiracy theory that so much resembles a previous antivaccine conspiracy theory that I had to wonder: Was this intentional, or is this just the way antivaxxers think.

Remember the whole “CDC whistleblower” kerfuffle from nearly seven years ago that ultimately formed the basis for Andrew Wakefield and Del Bigtree’s 2016 antivaccine conspiracy propaganda movie disguised as a documentary VAXXED? In that conspiracy theory, the “whistleblower” was a disgruntled CDC employee named William Thompson, who had decided that a paper on which he had been co-author hadn’t sufficiently emphasized what was likely a spurious result that African-American boys who received the MMR vaccine had a roughly four-fold increased risk of autism. Indeed, Thompson even accused his former co-investigators of outright scientific fraud in the form of improperly (or so it was implied) throwing away original data. Thompson based his claim of a cover up on a truly incompetently done “reanalysis” of the study by biochemical engineer Brian Hooker, who had been in contact with Thompson for months. It was an analysis that Hooker later touted for its “simplicity,” apparently not realizing that simplicity in statistical analyses of epidemiological data is not a virtue. Suffice to say, the original correlation was based on small numbers and disappeared when proper corrections for confounders were made. Not surprisingly, Hooker’s reanalysis was ultimately retracted. It’s also a zombie study that keeps being resurrected.

This time around, the “whistleblower” is an anonymous woman, who is referred to as Jane Doe in the lawsuit. Renz goes on about how she is an “expert” (sure, whatever) and that she had gone on record under oath under the threat of perjury. Of course, whenever I hear a claim like that put forth as evidence of the veracity of testimony, I like to say that it’s not perjury to be wrong, just to lie knowingly. It’s quite possible that this “expert” is totally wrong and could provide scientifically silly testimony without actually ever “perjuring” herself.

The overall claim being made is that there have been “at least 45,000 deaths” due to the COVID-19 vaccines based on “how many people have died within three days of the vaccine” in just one system reporting to the federal government.

First, who is this “whistleblower”? Who is Jane Doe? She describes herself thusly:

I am a computer programmer with subject matter expertise in the healthcare data analytics field, an honor that allows me access to Medicare and Medicaid data maintained by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS). I earned a B.S. degree in Mathematics and have, over the last 25 years, developed over 100 distinct healthcare fraud detection algorithms, both in the public and private sector. It has been my mission to protect federal tax dollars by preventing and detecting healthcare fraud, a process which leads to both recovery of overpayments and law enforcement leads. A large part of what I do is focused on the quality of care for the beneficiary; for example, I identify providers who prescribe an egregious amount of opioids to patients with a history of overdosing.

None of this makes Jane Doe an “expert” in epidemiology or how drug and vaccine safety monitoring works. None of it gives her insight in how to determine causation from correlation. Most importantly, none of this gives her insight in how to critically analyze data from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database, whose reports in the age of the pandemic has been weaponized by antivaxxers to make it appear that COVID-19 vaccines are causing widespread death and destruction, as I’ve written about several times now going back to December.

Now let’s look at this claim by the “whistleblower” Jane Doe in the “America’s Frontline Doctors” lawsuit, Exhibit D:

On July 9, 2021, there were 9,048 deaths reported in VAERS. I verified these numbers by collating all of the data from VAERS myself, not relying on a third party to report them. In tandem, I queried data from CMS medical claims with regard to vaccines and patient deaths, and have assessed that the deaths occurring within 3 days of vaccination are higher than those reported in VAERS by a factor of at least 5. This would indicate the true number of vaccine-related deaths was at least 45,000.

So that’s where the 9,048 number came from! You might remember that, when last I wrote about the weaponization of VAERS reports, I had a hard time coming up with the same number that antivaxxers were reporting when I searched the VAERS database myself (as anyone can do using its website). Using liberal search parameters, the largest numbers I could come up with were only around 6,000. Moreover, as I’ve explained, if you look at the baseline number of deaths, by random chance alone you’d expect to see quite a few more deaths than were reported to VAERS. Also, remember that this figure, whether accurate or not, was for all deaths reported after a COVID-19 shot, not just those within three days of vaccination.

As an aside, I can’t resist pointing out briefly here that in Hohmann’s article, he mentions:

These numbers are very close to what Dr. Peter McCullough reported in a video posted June 20 by, Behind the Vaccine Veil: Doctor cites ‘whistleblowers’ inside CDC who claim injections have already killed 50,000 Americans.

I’ve discussed Peter McCullough’s claims before on at least two different occasions. Let’s just say that they are…nonsense. Also, let’s just say that when your source is being cited approvingly by conspiracy theorist Mike Adams and antivaxxer Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., you might want to rethink if you really want to keep citing that source.

In any event, I guess I’ll have to do the math again briefly. Roughly 2.9 million Americans die every year, and the baseline death rate is around 2.4/100,000 per day. As of the July 2 report (which was what was used to get that estimate of 9,048 “vaccine-related deaths” in VAERS) that was over 201 days. That means that, for a population of 158 million vaccinated, we would expect to see ~3,792 deaths per day by random chance alone. How many days were encompassed in the VAERS data used to come up with that estimate? The handy-dandy time and date calculator let me get the answer without manually going through the months and figuring it out, and that number was 201 days. We would therefore expect to see 762,192 deaths by random chance alone in that period in the population that was vaccinated. Remember, too, that I’m using pre-pandemic death numbers, which means before the increase in excess mortality due to COVID-19 hit. Also remember that children, for whom daily mortality is much lower, are not included and that the vaccinated population generally skews older, even since the Pfizer vaccine was issued an EUA for the 12-15 year old age group.

Of course, I know as well as anyone else that this is a very crude calculation, as it could include someone who was vaccinated in December but died in June as well as someone who died within a day or two (or three) after the vaccination, thus diluting the numbers with mortalities for which causation would be more likely (those who die soon after the vaccine) with mortalities in which causation would be less likely (those who die months after the vaccine). However, the numbers of baseline deaths are so huge that even the estimate of 45,000 deaths over the same 201 day period could well be (and probably was) due to random chance alone.

I got curious, though. To follow up my previous calculations, I decided to search VAERS (which anyone can do) for the number of deaths that occurred within three days of a COVID-19 vaccine. (Anyone can do this.) I left the options as open as I could, listing only death in “2. Symptoms” and all COVID-19 vaccines, leaving covering all dates, and got this:

Deaths after COVID-19 vaccine listed by days after vaccination.
Deaths after COVID-19 vaccine listed by days after vaccination.

I did this again, this time using all complications under “2. Symptoms” but clicking “death” under “5. Event Characteristics” and got this:

Deaths after COVID-19 vaccination by days

Note that, examined this way given the large numbers of population involved, these reports are not nearly so impressive, particularly when spread over 215 days and compared to baseline death rates. I also looked at the table above a different way, listing the deaths by age:

Deaths after COVID vaccination in VAERS by age
Deaths after COVID vaccination in VAERS by age

Again, this is what I get, and there have been two more weeks of VAERS data added to the mix since the last time I did these searches. You can go to the VAERS website yourself and do the same.

But where did Jane Doe get this estimate of 45,000 deaths? Here’s where things get very disturbing. In the quote above, once again, she “queried data from CMS medical claims with regard to vaccines and patient deaths, and have assessed that the deaths occurring within 3 days of vaccination are higher than those reported in VAERS by a factor of at least 5. Why is this disturbing? Simple, as Dorit Reiss noted in her post, quoting Tweets from those who know:

No, defendants cannot challenge her qualification without, for example, a CV, without knowing what her alleged experience is. Anonymous experts in litigation are not generally used for good reason. I will add that, conspiracy theories aside, there may be good reasons this person wants to remain anonymous since there is at least a chance this person misused her access to Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services and may well face sanctions for it, but her personal fear of potential sanctions for actually misusing her access to private data is not a good reason for her to get anonymity.

Yes, Jane Doe might well have misused data and, unlike the false claims by antimaskers and antivaxxers like “America’s Frontline Doctors” that people can’t be asked if they’re vaccinated or why they can’t wear a mask, violated HIPAA, the health privacy law:

If Jane Doe really did access data that she shouldn’t have been accessing, the reason for her anonymity becomes clear. She very well might have violated HIPAA, a federal law. Of course, we have no way of knowing, because the description included in the legal filing from “America’s Frontline Doctors” is not detailed enough to give me a clear picture of exactly which databases she might have accessed, nor is there sufficient information to give me an idea of her search strategy or criteria for linking reported deaths to vaccines. Moreover, CMS is not a vaccine safety monitoring system.

More importantly, as has been stated many times here before, VAERS is a passive reporting system into which anyone can enter literally any claim for an adverse reaction after vaccination. It cannot provide accurate estimates of prevalence; it was never intended to do so. It was always intended as a “canary in the coal mine,” as an early warning system. It is a hypothesis-generating system, not a hypothesis testing system. There are other surveillance systems, active vaccine safety surveillance systems, such as the Vaccine Safety Datalink, that can be used to test hypotheses generated by VAERS. America’s Frontline Doctors legal brief ignores all these facts, well-known to those with actual expertise.

The rest of the America’s Frontline Doctors brief is full of the standard COVID-19 misinformation and conspiracy theories, so much so that I could spend multiple posts dissecting it. But why bother, when I’ve already done so for most (if not all) of the misinformation before? For instance, the request for injunction claims that COVID-19 is not deadly (and therefore there is no “emergency” for an EUA), which is clearly wrong. America’s Frontline Doctors also claim that the risks of the vaccines outweigh the risk of COVID-19, citing all manner of nonsense that I’ve previously debunked, such as the claim that the spike protein used as the antigen is deadly (wrong); that the vaccines cause miscarriages and infertility (wrong); that the spike protein from the vaccines damage the vasculature, using a study that shows nothing of the sort; and that there are very effective treatments like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine that make an EUA for the vaccines unnecessary (wrong, as neither work). I could go on and on, but why continue? This lawsuit is based on bogus science and bogus epidemiology

I agree with Dorit Reiss when she writes:

To a large extent, the America’s Frontline Doctors’ complaint is not even trying. It does not have a strong standing argument; it does not set out any sort of argument that the agency action was arbitrary and capricious. So why do it?

My opinion is that the goal of the lawsuit is not to be successful in court at all. America’s Frontline Doctors know they do not have a plausible case. That’s not their audience. Their goal is to create fear, uncertainty, and doubt by using alternative media to spread claims they know their listeners will not – or may not be able to – fact check. The court is a vehicle to make those claims sound like there is something to them like they are going anywhere. 

That would be contrary to claims like this:

Yes, this lawsuit serves the same purpose that lawsuits by, for example, Del Bigtree’s ICAN do: Fire up the faithful and spread fear, uncertainty, and doubt about vaccines. I’d also argue that there is at least one more purpose, namely grift. Never forget the grift. It’s always associated with quackery and antivaccine views like this, and “America’s Frontline Doctors” have shown themselves to be quite good at it.

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76 replies on ““America’s Frontline Doctors” sue over deaths from COVID-19 vaccines. Hilarity ensues.”

America’s Frontline Doctors are also recruiting people to be plaintiffs in lawsuits against universities. Like ICAN, they seem to have hit on litigation as a way to get legitimacy for untrue points they make.

Not everyone would realize you can file things in court that are incorrect, as you point out, without being perjury.

How long can a particular plaintiff get away with filing of bound-to-fail suits without being declared an abusive or vexatious litigant and having court access limited? Or is that a “thing” in the US courts? Don’t they run the risk of having substantial costs awarded against them?

A. Unlike in Europe, the U.S. does not have a “loser pay” rule, besides some rare contexts (some anti-SLAPP laws). So the plaintiff is not going to end up paying for the defendant if they lose. That has both advantages and issues – this is an example of an issue.

B. While in theory you can impose sanctions on vexatious litigants, it’s very rare.

C. Sanctions on lawyers are also rare, but we are now seeing potential for them in cases brought by lawyers litigating the election on behalf of former President Trump. I think – and said so in my post – that it may be worth considering this for these lawyers, because this is a really problematic lawsuit.

That the anonymous whistleblower claims a degree in mathematics irritates me. This seems like an assertion to prey on innumeracy. Also, training in a mathematical science does not imply one understands experimental design. I have no specific training there, but I’ve tried to gain a rudimentary understanding of the different designs, eg case-control, cohort, etc.

Even without any training, people could be asking themselves if apples are being coompared with apples. The misuse of VAERS, which I only learned of because of Covid, is particularly galling. I think it bears repeating.

(1) You cannot infer causation, but you can try to estimate risk ratios.
(2) Your data must be representative, ie you must try to get as close to a random sample as possible.
(3) You must control for confounders so the only difference is the factor of interest, eg vaccinated vs not vaccinated.

These hair-on-fire VAERS data mining pronouncements do none of these., yet some of these people scream ” Bayesian” at you like it’s a spell to ward off skeptics.

Experimental Design for Dummies would be nice. I haven’t looked hard enough.

This is dumb. Reporting systems in other countries report much worse injuries and more deaths than Vaers and these countries contact trace and report correctly. Why dont you debate on the merits of other nations results, not the flawed backlogged system here where many people do not even report to

Reporting systems in other countries report much worse injuries and more deaths than Vaers and these countries contact trace and report correctly.

This sounds awfully familiar.

The only one that comes to mind was the Netherlands reporting system, which was cherry picked in a truly bad paper promoted by Robert Malone a few weeks back.

It was reporting a much higher rate of adverse reactions than the EU average. I had neither the time nor the expertise to dig into why that was…

I’m in a country other than the USA (Australia). Large numbers of deaths from COVID-19 vaccines have not been reported.

Anti-vaccine activists here have misused data from the Australian Theraputic Goods Administration’s (TGA) Adverse Event Management System, AEMS, (which includes vaccine adverse events) to claim that far more vaccine deaths have occurred than is reported, in much the same way that VAERS data has been misused. The usual post hoc ergo propter hoc logic is applied.

A link to the AEMS web page was included in the patient information sheet when I got my first AstraZeneca shot.

When real COVID-19-releated deaths occur, they get front page press treatment. They are usually (and correctly) first reported as “possibly linked” to the vaccine, until the link has been confirmed. Almost all have been for clotting disease (TTS) caused by the AstraZeneca vaccine.

As of 22 July, “Since the beginning of the vaccine rollout in Australia, a total of five deaths from TTS have been reported out of 6.1 million doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine.”

Description of the AEMS reporting system:

So where’s your scientific proof that the America’s frontline doctors are not telling the truth, I’ll wait…..

I don’t need scientific proof. I’m an actual, no bs “frontline” doc and have been throughout this entire mess. In a previous comment on another posting I laid out how ridiculous their regimen is just from a purely practical and logistical standpoint here, in real hospitals, in real ICUs, in real neighborhoods, with real pharmacies, in the real world. I don’t know why more docs haven’t stepped up and said so.

Don’t believe me? No problem. Print out their silly outpatient regimen, take it to Costco or Walmart, ask the pharmacist if he or she could fill it.

why would physicians risk their malpractice insurance to lie if they did not have proof. You people need to open your eyes before you are led to the “gas chamber”.

@Penny web What malpractice insurance have common ith false statements. Gas chambers are not coming in, either.

Here’s hoping “Jane Doe” is outed and, if she did use her job access for this, fired. It would be illegal and unethical.

Isn’t it rather appropriate that AFD use the caduceus? Seems their research is somewhat lacking.

Seeing that the rod of Asclapius has one snake and the staff of Hermes (or Mercury*) has one or two, it would be logical for the AFD staff to have many more snakes.

*it seems odd that America’s Frontline Doctors (who probably have a deathly fear of Toxins) would want to use the symbol of Mercury.

Unfortunately Tom Renz is a crazy lawyer from Ohio. He also testified for the anti-vaccine bill HB248 which made Ohio the laughingstock of the US due to Sherri Tenpenny’s claim that vaccines will magnetize you. Renz has been photographed at various “freedom” conferences collecting trash bags full of cash and he and Tenpenny are currently engaged in a speaking tour that charges $75 per person to hear them spout anti-vaccine nonsense. It truly is all about the grift.

Ah. Was that the lady who stuck a spoon to her chest and angrily asked the room to explain how it was possible? I was impressed that no one muttered ‘clammy boobs’ into a microphone.

And how many people have died from covid? And how many would have died without the measures, these Frontline Doctors have oppposed to?

Are these the same people who downplay the deaths from covid?
So everyone who died after getting a vaccine, died from the vaccine, but people who died after getting covid, didn’t die from covid, but from some underlying conditions?

Oh yeah, I’m unfortunately in touch with one of these lunatics (due to a business association) and get into heated arguments on occasion. According to him, only 6% of the reported deaths from COVID are “real” COVID deaths, as the CDC “admitted” so much – amounting to around 40K deaths due to the pandemic. (The reality is that CDC stated that 6% of the COVID deaths had COVID only on the death certificate, without any other contributing causes.)

The metadata on the Jane Doe affidavit has one Laurie Brander as author. I’m going to go out on a limb and triangulate digi-law [dot] com as document preparer. The weird margin change at the end is anybody’s guess.

I have to work out how fast a 51-year-old solo practitioner has to go to administer “tens of thousands of vaccinations” first.

At 21 years of experience, that is only 3 vaccines a day, every day of the year to get into 10s of thousands of vaccines.

Amusingly, the internet seeming has decided that Dr Angelina Farella is a quack.

an amusing line in the document at Chris’s link:
“… survivability is 99.997%,which is statistically zero !”

Yeah. Our clinic is the largest in the two counties we serve with massive vaccine uptake and we promote them heavily and I seriously doubt we’ve administered “Tens of thousands” of them.

Also, no one wears the silly white coat anymore unless he or she desires to become a walking fomite (Or the butt of every hallway joke.)

So that’s where the 9,048 number came from! You might remember that, when last I wrote about the weaponization of VAERS reports, I had a hard time coming up with the same number that antivaxxers were reporting when I searched the VAERS database myself

This is because the antivaxxers are using the NVIC mirror site for VAERS where the default is all locations. If you search just for US States and Territories (the default in the CDC Wonder search) there will be roughly half the number of deaths. If Jane Doe was so expert in using databases and search strings, she should have identified this and used the number for the US in her affidavit.

This is about grift.

On America’s Frontline Doctors, you cannot take the claims of someone who was charged for being involved in the attack on the US Capitol seriously. If they believe that Donald Trump won the Presidential election so strongly they would invade the Capitol Building to “Stop the Steal” they would believe anything.

This is because the antivaxxers are using the NVIC mirror site for VAERS where the default is all locations.

There’s also newcomer OpenVAERS.

Is there something, other than a close-parenthesis, missing from this sentence?

“As of the July 2 report (which was what was used to get that estimate of 9,048 “vaccine-related deaths” in VAERS, . That means that, for a population of 158 million vaccinated, we would expect to see ~3,792 deaths per day by random chance alone.”

I’m math challenged, so having trouble following the numbers and dates here, and I keep going back to this sentence, wondering if part of it got cut off between “VAERS,” and “That” (Your mention of July 2 and Jane Doe’s mention of July 9 have me confused too…but that’s probably just because I need more coffee this morning.

VAERS reports every Friday only include data up to and including the Friday before. The data used to generate VAERS reports every Friday is a week old. As for the rest, it was a cut and paste error that’s been fixed.

Citing VAERS and relying on the results of trolling through it as evidence of vaccine dangers, especially after being informed about its limitations (as the site, itself, tells visitors) pretty much establishes that someone does not know what they are talking about.

Those who use inept legal thuggery to attack vaccination will undoubtedly get great benefit from vaccine law and other prospective law courses to be offered by IPAK-EDU, James Lyons-Weiler’s newly announced virtual academy for nitwits.

The law catalogue hasn’t been fleshed out yet, but L-W is promoting courses he will teach in first semester-equivalent biology, environmental toxicology, DNA/RNA stuff and more. For only $480 (the fee for intro biology, Key Readings in Public Health – Covid-19 and environmental toxicology) you can learn what L-W thinks is important in these fields (he makes plain that IPAK-EDU does not indoctrinate, so of course there will be rational, fact-based discussions of vaccine benefits and risks). There’s no indication that IPAK-EDU has been accredited by any responsible body, (or even irresponsible ones), but it’s far more important to learn what They don’t want you to know than to have course credits you can actually use to get real degrees and jobs.

I look forward to inspiring online IPAK-EDU graduation ceremonies, with The Refusers playing Pomp and Circumstance March #1 on kazoos.

“virtual academy for nitwits”

The marketing copy almost writes itself…

Enroll in IPAK-EDU today. If you’re not a nitwit, you soon will be.

Good thing he’s not trying to peddle “Creating a Functional Web Site.” That thing’s a mess.

Isn’t the figure of “762,192 deaths by random chance” double the real number?

The calculation assumes all 158 million vaccinated people have been vaccinated for the whole 201 days since vaccination started. On the first day very few people are vaccinated; by the last day almost everyone has been vaccinated.

You could go through the vaccination figures and count how many days each person has been vaccinated. But for simplicity, on average each person has been vaccinated for half the period.

The total deaths by random chance that have occurred after vaccination is half the number quoted … that is, around 381 thousand.

Wow, you’re a dark cult disinfo puppet regurgitating everything you’ve been told by the corrupt msm. Programming/ conditioning at its finest! Has it ever occurred to you that everyone who is trying to warn humanity has NOTHING to gain. They (we) stand to lose everything as the big tech nazis deem who to listen to and who to not essentially putting parental controls like we are all 5 year olds that can’t discern or think for ourselves. Big Pharma is in the business of keeping people sick is it not? So what do you think they would do to those who go against their narrative? They silence them they ridicule and smear them call them crazy or conspiracty theorists. That is CLASSIC NARCISSIST moves and narcs love to GASLIGHT those who are speaking the truth. They weaponized the term conspiracy theorist when JFK was murdered by our own govt. They did this to discredit anyone who dared to question the CIA/govt. Did you kow that more than 70% of US believe our govt killed him? So we are now to trust this govt when all theyve done is lied in epic proportion. They lied about asbestos, lead in paint, cancer causing baby powder (J&J) pesticides, GMO, the effects of “vaccines” smoking for pregnant women, fluoride in our water, chemicals being sprayed in our skies with aluminum, barium, stromium (look those up on how they effect you) I could keep going on this. Yet so many are brainwashed thinking govt will “save” them. You are your OWN savior. YOu have the power. We the people right? We are the 99% and need to expose and rid the dark 1% cult that is pushing these EXPERIMENTAL GENE THERAPIES. It is NOT a vaccine. YOU are the lab rat. YOU are the experiment. AND yes HCQ is a viable treatment and BIg pharma did what they always do to crush competion (as comp would hurt their bottom line) they silenced it. Funny bc my 78 yo uncle in TX reitred gen physician used HCQ last summer and he was all good in 3 days. It’s mind blowingly incredible how many people don’t research from all angles instead believing everyting the big pharma owned media says! So what is it? Are you pushing the dark cult’s agenda or is this just strong cognitive dissonance? Good luck!

Well, THIS IS A DISINFO WEBSITE used ALL CAPS in its post, unlike WAKE UP WORLD*, so maybe they’re two separate dingdongs who both happen to believe in a dark cult puppet holding illimitable dominion over all.

*who wins July’s crank magnetism competition on RI in a runaway.
**It’s not just Orac. We are ALL pushing the dark cult’s agenda. We know it’s false but the money’s just too darn good.

How dare people use big pharma’s products instead of using HCQ, which grows naturally, seeded from fairy dust.

Professional antivaxxers actually pay themselves six figure salary. Check their 990 form. So they actually gain a lot.

Do the incoherent anti-vaxxers ever get anything right?
WAKE UP WORLD! drooled in a random capitalized fashion, “YOu have the power.”
No, no, no, WAKE UP WORLD!
Where have you been for the past 40 years?
Hanging out with your hero Skeletor – the Overlord of Evil?
He-Man has teh power!

All 80’s kids know this… WAKE UP, WORLD!

chemicals being sprayed in our skies with aluminum, barium, stromium (look those up on how they effect [sic] you)

You missed one.

Thanks, I was beginning to think no one on this site seen the BIG picture. I seen the Ted Talk about the “God gene”. It was like a light came on.
I was already a believer, Jesus is who he said he is and I have faith in what He did on the cross, I will spend eternity with him. For me it’s best to stay in the Holy Book to get the game plan. If you haven’t Please Trust Him with your life. Believe me what is going to happen in this world horrific.

So if at the end of this life this world was all a person had it is no wonder they are afraid of Covid-19. I actually spent some time in the hospital. Apparently the have an auto immune condition but bounce right back. I did get a Dr. to prescribe vitamins D, C, along with the oxygen steroids ect. They were surprised how well I did. God seen me through without fear.
From what I understand None of the companies (pharmaceutical) pushing the so called vaccine are responsible, they have “indemnity”. But companies, employers can require it and are encouraged to.
God help us all to see, the shot is the bio-weapon. America and our Freedom stands in the way of the totalitarian regimes they have planned for the “useful idiots” (or death) that are helping them bring the US down. God is still in control, allowing the freedom of those that do evil, they will get what they deserve.


You just lost that bet. Also, don’t be a sock puppet. I know that, whoever you are, you’re the same person as “WAKE UP WORLD!” Pick a single ‘nym and stick to it or be banned. It’s right there in the comments policy, fool:

Basically, the first comment from a new commenter ALWAYS goes to moderation. Every time you change ‘nyms and email addresses, you’ll just be going to moderation again, where I’ll compare other features of your comment with previous comments to figure out if it’s another sock puppet.

Are you ok? You seeing little black helicopters flying around in the room you’re in?

This is a parody post, right? A disinfo site would either delete all opposing views, or only allow the stupidest ones – which are you trying for?

In more AFLDs lawsuits, Stella Immanuel is suing CNN for defamation for publishing comments she made in YouTube videos and on her website about the causes of disease being demons and alien DNA. She also claims in the suit that hydroxychloroquine is 100% effective against COVID-19 and the CNN article caused hundreds of thousands of deaths.

I am sure hilarity will ensue.

“Well, the fact that I let your reply through should answer your question, shouldn’t it”

Well played Orac. Well played.

This is the most ignorant, brain dead, poorly veiled biased article I have ever read. Might have the record for not having one truthful sentence among this mental turd.

Oh, I’ll never forget about frontline doctors. I had fatheads of them made with quote bubbles of stuff that they said on fox news. My favorite is miss Gold siccing Lin Wood on people who say mean things about her. They now line my entire receiving bay.

Rarrrrrr {claw quotes} Simone. Good luck with the Jan 6 thing.

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