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Stanislaw Burzynski gets off on a technicality

NOTE: Special thanks to Jann Bellamy for advising me regarding the legal aspects of this post.

There are times when I fear that I’m writing about the same topic too many times in too brief a period of time. Most commonly, I notice this concern when writing about the lunacy of the anti-vaccine movement. In fact, it’s fairly rare that I feel it for any other topic. There is, however, one topic other than antivaccinationist assaults against science and reason that will sometimes obligate me to go on a roll such that I might write multiple posts in a short period of time. I’m referring, of course, to the dubious doctor known as Stanislaw Burzynski, a man who charges desperate patients with advanced (and usually incurable) cancer tens and even hundreds of thousands of dollars to participate in his “clinical trials” of antineoplastons, compounds that he claims to have isolated from urine and that he now represents as a promising new treatment that can do much better than existing therapies with much less toxicity, even though there’s no evidence that it can. He’s even starred in his very own documentary, which his very own propagandist Eric Merola, used as a paean to the greatness that Burzynski obviously considers himself to possess. The documentary was awful, full of biased misinformation and overall just a plain bad movie. Lately, Burzynski has been claiming to use what he refers to as “personalized gene-targeted cancer therapy,” which is more appropriately described as “personalized therapy for dummies,” given how incompetently it is carried out and the manner in which Burzynski mixes and matches very expensive targeted therapy and chemotherapy in ways guaranteed to produce synergistic toxicity.

Through it all, Burzynski collects huge fees for his “services,” motivating the desperate families of dying cancer patients to hold massive fundraisers. This sort of story has become a depressingly common topic for this blog over the last year since I really started to notice Burzynski and his followers in a big way. Most recently it was Rachael Mackey and Amelia Saunders. Before that, it was a parade of children and adults that included Brynlin Sanders, Jesse Bessant, Shana Pulkinen, Billie Bainbridge, Kelli Richmond, and Olivia Bianco. There are more, so many more, but they all share two things in common. First, Stanislaw Burzynski failed them, and, second, they made the news because they held fundraisers to try to pay the tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars that Burzynski charges for his services. Meanwhile, although Burzynski somehow has a phase 3 clinical trial that was apparently approved by the FDA (although it hasn’t accrued a single patient in nearly two years), the FDA has slapped him down for serious problems with the institutional review board (IRB) that oversees his “clinical trials” and for making claims for his antineoplastons even though they are not FDA-approved.

Unfortunately, as I noted last week, although the Texas Medical Board (TMB) brought action against Burzynski to strip him of his medical license, it appears that he he will slither away yet again, given that the proceedings against him have apparently been dismissed. At the time I took note of this development, I didn’t know how Burzynski had managed to slither away from accountability for his actions and justice yet again. Certainly, the gloating by the likes of Patrick “Tim” Bolen shed no light on the question, nor did this triumphant screed by someone who calls herself Sarah the Healthy Economist:

Why has Dr. Burzynski been so relentlessly persecuted first by the United States Government and then the Texas Medical Board for so many years?

Follow the money my friends!

The multi-agent gene targeted therapy called Antineoplastons is a nothing short of a huge medical breakthrough that promises to completely shatter the cut, poison, burn Standard Of Care – surgery, chemotherapy and radiation treatment. When clinical trials are completed and Antineoplastons approved, it will be the first time in history that a single individual and not a pharmaceutical company holds the exclusive patent to manufacture and distribute these gene targeted medicines on the open market.

Uh, no. Antineoplastons don’t represent “multi-agent gene targeted therapy.” The person who wrote this bit of gloating is clearly too ignorant of what Burzynski actually does and claims to know that the “gene-targeted” therapy he claims to provide is not antineoplastons (although Burzynski somehow manages always to include antineoplastons in his concoctions). Nor is what Burzynski does anything that will “completely shatter” the current cancer treatment paradigm.

None of this stops the hyperbole, though:

Parents have particular reason to rejoice that the case against Dr. Burzynski has been dismissed. One form of childhood cancer – diffuse, intrinsic, childhood brainstem glioma for which conventional medicine has no cure has been cured by Antineoplastons (with dozens of others). [ANP – PubMed 2003] [ANP – PubMed 2006] [ANP – Cancer Therapy 2007] [Rad & other – PubMed 2008] [Chemo/Rad – PubMed 2005]

Congratulations Dr. Burzynski on this huge win against the foes that are attempting to silence you and stop your amazing work. The road ahead is still long until treatment with Antineoplastons is widely available to all Americans, but this recent victory brings a big one home for the little guy!

No, it’s not. It is, unfortunately, a victory for a man who uses the desperation of dying cancer patients to extract huge sums of money from them or, as one of his patients put it, to use them “as an ATM” and coercing her into buying her prescriptions from a Burzynski-owned pharmacy at “outrageous” prices. Meanwhile, the heart of the case brought against Burzynski brought by the TMB was his off-label use of targeted therapies in treating cancer patients. When I last reviewed this, I was astounded at the number of targeted drugs in the drug cocktails used. Not only was Burzynski using chemotherapy and a lot of it, but he was using some very expensive products of big pharma in a medically unsupportable manner. So let’s head over to the actual legal rulings. I do this, of course, with a bit of trepidation because, of course, I’m not a lawyer. However, even not being a lawyer, I think the reasons for the dismissal become fairly obvious by reading some of the motions and rulings. Plus I had input from a real lawyer.

So why was Buryznski’s case dismissed? Fortunately, some of my readers helped me out in the comments of my last post. You, too, can get these PDFs if you wish, just by going to the Texas State Office of Administrative Hearings (SOAH) and, using a guest account, searching for docket 503-11-1669. The “money filings” are ORDER NO. 12 – RULING ON RESPONDENTS MOTION FOR DISPOSITION, STAFFS SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS, AND MEMORIALIZING PARTIES STIPULATION OF FACTS and ORDER N O. 16 » GRANTING AND DENYING IN PART STAFFS MOTION FOR RECONSIDERTION OF ORDER NO. 12. Basically, the TMB had gone after Burzynski based on the doctrine of vicarious liability, which means in essence that the TMB was arguing that Burzynski was responsible for the actions of the physicians working for him who had cared for the patients at the heart of the TMB case against Burzynski. In response, Burzynski moved to dismiss and/or strike TMB allegations against him to the extent that the allegations were based on the actions of other physicians working at his clinic. His attorney’s argument was that, under administrative law, there is no vicarious liability for the actions of others. This is apparently different from tort law (for example, medical malpractice), where the physician can be held liable for the actions fo physicians working under his control or supervision in some circumstances. The bottom line is that the administrative judge ruled in Burzynski’s favor. From the RESPONDENT’S REPLY TO THE BOARD STAFF’S SUPPLEMENTAL RESPONSE ON THE CONSOLIDATE MOTION FOR DISMISSAL AND SUMMARY DISPOSITION:

Respondent’s ownership of the clinic and his self-designation as the clinic’s chief physician on some forms, his ability to hire and fire everyone, and even that the forms which state that he is in “charge of treatment” (as stated in the informed consent forms for patient A) is only evidence of responsibility under vicarious liability theory, given the fact that the medical records detail exactly what doctors provided services to these two patients and who was involved in the delivery of medical care to these patients.

The judge accepted this reasoning, which meant that the TMB faced the bad option of trying to prosecute a case based only on what the complaint alleged that Burzynski himself did. It’s not clear why the TMB voluntarily dismissed the case after this ruling, but perhaps the TMB’s lawyers concluded that there wasn’t a strong enough case based only on the allegations against only Burzynski. Basically, by throwing his fellow physicians working for him under the bus, Burzynski walks. Why do I say “throwing them under the bus”? Simple. The TMB could, if it so desired, begin actions against the individual physicians who took care of these patients, and I sincerely hope that the TMB does just that.

As for the significance of the ruling, contrary to what Burzynski’s apologists would like you to believe, this ruling says absolutely nothing about whether what Burzynski is doing is good science or not. It says exactly nothing about whether what Burzynski is doing is good medicine or not. It says even less about whether Burzynski’s clinical trials are ethical or not. All the board found was that, as a matter of law, the TMB couldn’t bring action against Burzynski on the basis of actions performed by doctors under his supervision. So when someone like Patrick “Tim” Bolen exults that Burzynski’s somehow been vindicated, Sarah the Healthy Economist says “alternative cancer treatment wins big,” or Burzynski’s lawyer Richard Jaffe says something like, “The cutting-edge, multi-agent gene targeted therapy devised by Dr. Burzynski which was at the heart of this proceeding is still being given at the clinic and is helping countless patients,” it’s a non sequitur. Just because the judge ruled on a narrow point of law regarding whether specific allegations were admissible in a case against Burzynski says nothing about the validity of Burzynski’s work, nor does it in any way vindicate him. He got off on a technicality, and that’s all.

That still leaves the claim by Jaffe that “two medical board informal settlement panels found that the use of these combination drugs on the advanced cancer patients involved was within the standard of care.” Unfortunately, we have no way of finding out what the settlement panels did or didn’t find because the proceedings of such panels are confidential, being as the name implies an attempt to see if the parties can settle the case prior to litigation. One notes that the board appears to have disagreed with Burzynski’s characterization of the settlement proceedings.

I’m not going to lie or downplay it here. The dismissal of the TMB action against Burzynski is a major setback to efforts to stop what Burzynski is doing. He’s now basically free to continue to do what he’s been doing for the last thirty years. Once burned, it’s unlikely that the TMB will take another crack at him any time soon. The last time it did was back in the 1990s. Will it be in the 2020s before a future board decides to try again, or will Burzynski retire or die before then, leaving his son Greg to carry on the family business?

By Orac

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859 replies on “Stanislaw Burzynski gets off on a technicality”

Thanks Orac (and Jann).

You’ve got to hand it to the sneaky old ba§tard, that’s a clever ruse isn’t it? Advertise your services as genius, persecuted medical maverick, lure victims patients into your clinic, and then never meet, see, or treat them. “Wasn’t me your honour, I was at home rolling in $100 bills at the time”.

I hope TMB goes for the treating physicians add goes hard at them. Burykidski will find it hard to operate a clinic sans patsies doctors.

And he’ll also find it hard to recruit new doctors if it’s known that working at the Burzynski Clinic could be a quick way to lose their licenses.

Let’s see – “helped countless patients.” Hmmm….kind of hard to judge since Dr. B hasn’t published any of his trial results. In fact, all we hear about are the ones that seem to die.

Also, since his “drug cocktail” isn’t scrutinized, he could be giving just about anything to these patients (especially since they buy the drugs from his pharmacy).

It is extremely scary that this guy is still allowed to practice (though because of the technicality, it doesn’t seem that he is “treating” anyone).

Countless patients? Zero could be said to be countless, I suppose, in the convoluted logic that holds sway at that clinic.

IANAL, but I’m wondering if this technicality leaves Burzynski open to fraud charges. (Federal charges, since he is clearly operating across state lines.) He collects huge sums of money from patients who think he is treating them, but he is now on record in court as stating that he isn’t the one doing the treating. Does somebody with a better knowledge of criminal law want to comment?

But he is treating them – through his subordinate physicians. That’s enough to get off the fraud issue, and also enough to buffer him from responsibility in regards to licensing. Isn’t law nice?

The more I hear, the more disgusted I get.

I’ll join you in hoping they go after his subordinates. I suspect once they tear down that shield against responsibility, Burzynski might be too greedy to stop and hopefully he’d get caught as soon as he did anything personally.

But I’d worry that he’d retire to his mansion and start writing books on how you, too, can fleece the terminally ill for profit.

@ Bronze Dog:

I think that it’s more likely that he’ll write books about how his therapy can save the terminally ill because that’s a way to channel them to his family business.

As far as I’m concerned: until Burzynski’s shut down for good, Orac can’t write often enough about him.

@lsm

FDA doesn’t regulate the practice of medicine. They can go after him for how he sells/promotes his unapproved drugs or how/whether he conducts clinical trials, but they can’t do anything about his medical license or ability to practice medicine.

@Todd W,
The problem with Frontline is that they would most likely take the “tell both sides” approach, which would give Dr. B plenty of chance to spin. What would best fit Dr. B is a Michael Moore- style documentary that would lay out the histories of the people the clinic failed to help. Another thing worth looking into is where all the online “testimonials” are coming from. That’s clearly a huge part of how the clinic’s business is being sustained. I would wager that if (BIG “if”!) that subcultural bubble could be burst, the clinic would collapse.

Another thing that’s shaping up is that it looks more and more like it would be easier to get the clinic simply on fishy business practices than Burzynski on his medical practices. That would entail more agencies getting involved, and I’m not sure which ones.

David N. Brown
Mesa, Arizona
http://www.exotroopers.wordpress.com

It’s my understanding that the most you can usually expect from charges such as these are a letter of admonition against the supervising license-holder. Spin value aside, this action may have throw some cold water on B’s inner workings.

@ David N. Brown:

A BIG If indeed!
Dr B’s fame ( infamy, actually) is unfortunately supported by alt media and woo-meisters far and wide who provide maintaintence of the sub-culture- simultaneously pushing worthless or dangerous woo and discrediting SBM.
If ONLY!

@David N. Brown

Frontline generally takes the following format:

First half: present the topic in a neutral light, from the POV of those promoting the issue.
Second half: apply a no-punches-pulled reality-based critique of said POV.

I’ve been impressed by how they’ve handled other controversial topics, like Facilitated Communication (Prisoners of Silence) and vaccines (The Vaccine Wars). No one who watches those would come away with any doubt as to the reality of the subject, other than via willful ignorance. I think they could do a very good job with Burzynski, showing what he claims and what actually goes on, with the very real (and very depressing) results.

@Todd W:
Sorry to ask something that may be obvious here, but I really want to know: why does the government/FDA let him get away with it? I know the FDA is under-funded/staffed, but it seems like his drug and clinical trial offenses is a gigantic pile of turd that would be easily actionable by the FDA, if not other entities. Who could pressure them? (and I agree with Edith Prickly: don’t let up on Burzinski, Orac)

I’m with Edith. I’d take daily, hourly Burzynski posts until the truth is out and he’s shut down.

I’m not one to believe in simplistic beliefs like claiming that certain people are inherently evil, but with Stan the Cancer Con Man, it’s almost too easy.

I could weep, honestly.

@ Ism, the ultimate irony here (well two actually) is that the FDA has actively enabled Burzynski by allowing him to continue to “conduct” phase II and III trials without publishing results. I urge you to get your hands on Dr. Goldacre’s “Bad Pharma” when it becomes available in the U.S. as it is a stunning litany of pharma and regulatory offences that keep this circle jerk going.

The other oddity is how Burzynski can be let off on this technicality when he is the ringmaster of his scam circus. Physicians in his employ are doing his bidding so I can only hope that the Texas Medical Board do go after them.

@lsm

As Orac noted in his post, FDA has come down on his IRB (several years ago…would be nice to hear a followup from the FDA on that one) and just last month (concerning his promotion of antineoplastons). It would be nice to have them do something about the clinical trials themselves, given how long they’ve been going with zero published results and no wrap-up date in sight. Honestly, not certain what the hold up is, there.

OT note from the antivax front: there’s a truly excellent op-ed piece in the Newark Star-Ledger today (along with the typical run of sane and demented comments from the peanut gallery):

ht_p://blog.nj.com/njv_guest_blog/2012/11/pro-vaccine_parents_need_to_sp.html#incart_river_default

The op-editorialist (co-author of a new book on vaccination) could use some additional favorable reviews on Amazon.

ht_p://www.amazon.com/dp/144221578X

Why does this writer continue to embarrass himself? He/she has never even there during this legal process. Go back to your vaccine drivel. Good luck with your “hourly posts” in avoiding scientific fact. FDA sanctioned clinical trials, duh. Burzynski has never once lost a legal case, because, uh, he is always found to be right. Flat Earth Society is calling you all. Ring ring.

There is some good “news” on the Burzynski clinical trials. In January of 2011, he had five open trials and the Phase III trial was supposed to open sometime that year. In January of 2012, he only had 1 open trial, and the Phase III trial is still not open for recruitment. In fact, that may explain why Deb wasn’t able to enroll her child in his clinic – of the trials that may still be open (no updates since June 2009, primary end-date December 2011), none are open to both adults and children. We know that he recently treated an adult. So it appears that he may not be able to treat children unless he can manage to open the Phase III trial, which is restricted to children under 18.

Perhaps the FDA has finally told him “Tits or GTFO”?

The Star-Ledger could use a bit of cursory fact-checking:

McCarthy has even been given her own column in the Chicago Tribune.

Wrong newspaper, and a misleading payload anyway.

Burzynski has never once lost a legal case, because, uh, he is always found to be right.

Roger, did you even read the post you’re commenting on? If so, could you explain precisely how in this case Burzynski was ‘right’ and his accusers were ‘wrong?’

@Denice Walter:
Actually, judging from web results, the most visible propaganda outlets are dedicated sites and social media pages that appear to be either the direct work of Burzynski’s staff or those who openly identify as his patients and/or supporters.

The wider “alt med” scene is no doubt a source of support for Burzynski, but I think there is a strong potential for the movement to turn against him. The problem for Dr. B on that front is that, while “alties” are infamously unfazed by questions about efficacy and even safety, they tend to be sensitive about overt commercialism and paranoid about any hint of “Big Pharma” influence. In those terms, it is to be expected that many of them are already getting uncomfortable with the clinic’s publicity machine and the sheer size of the cash flow. If, on top of that, it came out that Burzynski was relying on “Big Pharma” products and even funding, then there could be an open backlash.

David N. Brown
Mesa, Arizona
http://www.exotroopers.wordpress.com

Roger,

You get the “facts” arse about face in almost every conceivable way – no surprise for someone who can defend Burzynski and not piss themselves laughing whilst doing so.

Stan “the brave maverick” Burzynski avoided the legal case by dis-associating himself from the wrong doing, not by vindicating the actions taken in his name in his own clinic.

The man is not only a weasel and a fraud, but lacks any conviction whatsoever.

I read many of the files at SOAH last summer. I think in one of the recent rulings the board agreed to take some of them out of public view. My impression was that would protect the ability of the doctors working under Burzynski to defend themselves if there’s further action? (I’m not a lawyer.)

The last I remember, Burzynski said in his documents, yes, he saw some of the MRIs and advised the physicians, but that didn’t make him responsible. At about the same time, a person offering to refer terminal cancer patients on an online support forum to Burzynski promised that he treated every patient personally. And s/he claimed to have no knowledge about any lawsuits.

What has happened to the Lola Quinlan lawsuit against Burzynski? I looked for information the other day and saw that Ms. Quinlan died last May. Will her heirs pursue the case?

I think in one of the recent rulings the board agreed to take some of them out of public view. My impression was that would protect the ability of the doctors working under Burzynski to defend themselves if there’s further action?

I don’t think it would. As I recall this fairly late tidbit, the issue was that the TMB wanted to be able to use material from the informal settlement talks, which Burzynski opposed, but Burzynski included some of the information in a response, and it was later decided that the material could be submitted under seal if things went forward, and the clerk was supposed to pull the original and replace it with a redacted version. (I believe I got this backward once before, so caveat lector; the response in question hadn’t been marked as redacted the last time as looked at it, so I’m not sure if that step was left off or if the response didn’t get replaced as it was intended to.)

Anyway, it doesn’t really impinge on the ability of the TMB to move forward in separate complaints, but that seems politically unlikely just on the basis of having blown this one.

David, I only wish the alties were sensitive about commercialization. I see them posting “information” on cancer blogs from Mercola and Robert Moss as if it were gospel.

@bootleg,
Naturally, “alt med” communities are far more sensitive about commercialism from outside influences than among themselves. It’s my observation that even commercially-sponsored alt-med sites (I consider AoA an example) will try to offer some kind of social and spiritual message and even downplay the commercial aspect.

Another thing I am beginning to wonder about: The reports of “cocktails” used by Burzinski sounds to me like a product of the “compounding pharmacy” interest. I looked under that rock some time ago when I did several research pieces on Lee Silsby, the sponsor of AoA. (See “Cures” page at evilpossum.weebly.com.) At that point, I speculated that it was not inconceivable that an operation like Lee Silsby might actually receive some discrete funding or other encouragement from a “Big Pharma” sponsor, as a way to investigate new uses of Big Pharm products quietly. If Burzynski and/or associates have gotten themselves into the compounding business, I believe it’s very possible they found some “mainstream” pharmaceutical backing.

David N. Brown
Mesa, Arizona

Lola Quinlan did die, May 2012. I located this, which indicates that Ms. Quinlan (or her estate), did prevail with the lawsuit against Burzynski and his pharmacy, when Burzynski overcharged Quinlan for chemotherapeutic drugs.

Did Burzynski then start to appeal that verdict…then make a motion to dismiss his own appeal…which was granted?

http://statecasefiles.justia.com/documents/texas/first-court-of-appeals/01-12-00617-cv.pdf?ts=1344614867

Your posts are too biased. I neither defend nor support Dr. Burzinski, but it is more than obvious that you are already too opinionated to write objectively (I actually doubt this has ever been a premise for you).

Had the ruling been different, how would you have written this phrase below?

“Just because the judge ruled on a narrow point of law regarding whether specific allegations were admissible in a case against Burzynski says nothing about the validity of Burzynski’s work, nor does it in any way vindicate him. He got off on a technicality, and that’s all.”

“Just because …” bla, bla, bla … you were a surgeon, not a judge, correct? Neither a lawyer (apparently). Finding excuses and turning everything in your favor for the sake of your argumentation is not very noble.

But we already knew surgeons are pretty biased …

By the way, don’t hold out much hope for the TMB of doing anything. PublicCitizen had a full article in the “Outrage of the Month” section in their Oct. Health Letter on the “Deficiencies of the Texas Medical Board.”
Essentially, “the report provides evidence concerning the inadequate capacity of the Texas Medical Board to protect Texas patients form preventable medical harm.”

@Jim

How would any ruling on a point of administrative law said anything about whether or not Burzynski’s practices actually work as claimed?

(By the way, perhaps you missed the bit where Orac admitted that he is not a lawyer and that he got help from an actual lawyer on the points of law in this article.)

Roger: “Burzynski has never once lost a legal case, because, uh, he is always found to be right.”

Rog, could you pass along this wisdom to the folks at Wikipedia?

“Burzynski’s use and advertising of antineoplastons as an unapproved cancer therapy were deemed to be unlawful by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Texas Attorney General,] and limits on the sale and advertising of the treatment were imposed as a result…
In 1994, Burzynski was found guilty of insurance fraud for filing a claim for reimbursement by a health insurer for an illegally administered cancer treatment.”

I don’t follow the legal argument that Dr. B is not responsible because he doesn’t treat the patients. If I hire someone to kill my spouse, I am guilty of murder as I understand it. How is this different? I admit my ignorance of the law, so perhaps someone can enlighten me a bit.

Jim

Ahhhhh…….relativism. The poltically correct notion that all ideas, however nonsensical, no matter how discredited, should be given equal weight when being considered.

You are just plain WRONG. Asking how Orac would have responded were the facts different is pointless. Search out and watch Terence Mckenna’s discourse on relativism on youtube to see why you are wrong, he explains why your point of view is ridiculous far more succinctly and amusingly than i am able to do.

Burzynski himself put his ideas outside the realm of what should be given serious consideration when he refused to back up his grandiose claims with actual evidence and began his 30+ year campaign of fraud against the desperate and confused.

@JBC

Difference between administrative law and tort law. TMB has authority to impose sanctions on a physician’s practice of medicine based on how they’ve practiced medicine on patients. So, if he had actually seen patients directly or otherwise been directly involved in the management of their care, they could do something to him. But, because he was not directly involved in the care of the patients, TMB can’t impose sanctions against his license to practice.

The TMB can’t sue on a tort action because they were not wronged by Burzynski. Only the patients and/or their families could bring such an action against him. In a tort action, it doesn’t really matter whether he was directly involved or not; as the employer/director of the clinic, he bears at least some measure of responsibility.

At least, that’s my understanding, but IANAL.

Jim:

Your posts are too biased. I neither defend nor support Dr. Burzinski, but it is more than obvious that you are already too opinionated to write objectively (I actually doubt this has ever been a premise for you).

[sarcasm ]Yeah! Isn’t it terrible that Orac is so biased against taking tens of thousands of dollars from families who are just trying to cure their loved ones. Oh, and he just keeps asking, asking and asking for the papers for those clinical trials. Jeesh, those people were going to die anyway, so why not let Burzynski continue to let them pay for him to do his experiments. He will tell us the results when he is and ready to, he doesn’t need Orac, the FDA, and others to tell him how run his clinics. Right? [/sarcasm]

And when they’ve successfully shut this guy down, go after the likes of Benny Hinn. He does the same thing except without the medicinals. He claims to be able to cure, yet there are all manner of examples of his “clients” that are not cured. And he and his enterprise pay very little tax.

@ DFR: Orac has already blogged about Benny Hinn…and other faith healers:

https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2011/02/10/benny-hinn-dark-lord-of-the-sith/

And…

https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2010/11/19/for-shame-oprah-winfrey-shills-for-faith/

IANAL. I agree with Todd W’s post about the difference between an administrative hearing conducted by the Texas Medical Board and civil tort lawsuits instituted by Burzynski’s patients, or the survivors of those patients.

Orac and other science bloggers have posted about Burzynski’s “treatment” and the indiscriminate use of traditional chemotherapeutic medications. These blogs have had an impact on potential patients and their families. Perhaps some of Burzynski’s victims and or/their families will institute lawsuits against Burzynski and his staff. Enough negligence lawsuits against them, would result in them being uninsurable against medical malpractice.

@DFR,
That would be an arguable restraint of religious exercise. I studied the subject of “faith healing” as a seminary student, and my evaluation of Hinn was that he at least distanced himself from egregious abusers like Peter Popoff. From a legal perspective, advocates of “faith healing” are on a solid footing as long as they present themselves primarily as religiously-based emotional support, and especially don’t advise anyone against seeking orthodox medical treatment. An additional legal consideration is that “non-profit” religious organizations would mainly fall under the jurisdiction of the IRS.

David N. Brown
Mesa, Arizona

@Todd W.

I did not miss anything. I spend days to cover all Orac has written about that case.

“Burzynski’s practices and work” is too broad in scope to comment on it in a definitive manner.

@MarkL

You have no idea what you are talking about, and you obviously had not idea what I was talking about. Hence, dismissed.

@Chris

Yes, and perhaps you think this is very different from what you are basing your sarcasm on:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/as-drug-industrys-influence-over-research-grows-so-does-the-potential-for-bias/2012/11/24/bb64d596-1264-11e2-be82-c3411b7680a9_story.html

Oh, I forgot – these were real companies, real researchers doing real science. It is just 4 years = 80,000 people becoming victims – nothing to compare with 30+ years and hundreds dying from something that they would … have died from anyway.

If Burzynski is wrong (and probably he is), so is almost everybody else in this “business”. Oh, did we forget that Orac is perhaps in the same or similar business? Shifting the focus is a very convenient strategy. Finding a scapegoat while doing that is even better. Throwing accusations without presenting known facts of similar cases from the “real science field” is definitely subjective. All of this combined = biased representation. A fact, regardless of whether or not you like it. I understand your feelings and ego may be hurt, but try to detached yourself from them to see the world from a logical, objective point of view.

@All

As a matter of fact, I support more than 50% of what Orac has written about the case. But not acknowledging the obvious is simply a prejudiced behavior derived from specific personal experiences and motives.

Life is subjective, as is science. Don’t try to represent science as the only true solution to all problems – it is not. You know nothing about how exactly the human body functions at molecular level, as does Dr. Burzynski. Therefore, please don’t make huge conclusions based on superficial knowledge.

You could try to be more objective, because you can. You simply don’t want to. It’s called ego and defense of the own territory.

Jim,

You’re wrong to write “You know nothing about how exactly the human body functions at molecular level” as some out-of-hand straw-man dismissal.

Orac is a researcher as well as a surgeon – he has a decent enough knowledge of the molecular biology of cancer.

Likewise, some of us ‘@All’ commenting do in fact know molecular biology.

Regards your idea that Science is subjective: individual people might have their interpretations of data (like your own for that matter) but the data itself are the data – you can’t wave them away.

Jim,

I am dismissed? You are too funny. What exactly is your point?

Burzynski is a fraud, and we can safely continue to describe him as such because a) he has already been labelled a fraud by the FDA and by the courts for fraudulent health insurance claims and b) he has NO evidence to support either the efficacy of his treatments or a contrary opinion of his character. Yes, the scientific argument is biased, but that is because all available evidence is against Burzynski, and he refuses to join the debate, refuses to provide the data that vindicates his “wonder cure”. What do we get instead? , obfuscation, evasion and now comical attempts to portray his escape from legal censure (by abandoning his subordinates and leaving them to take the blame) as a vindication of his medical expertise .

Despite opening 60 phase 2 trials over decades, he has not added one scintilla of knowledge to the cumulative fight against cancer. That in itself tells a pretty straightforward story. He has enriched himself by selling false hope to desperate families around the world.

I don’t need to know the details of how the human body functions at a cellular level to know a snake oil salesman when I see one. And if Burzynski and his supporters want to overturn that widely held opinion of him, then they know what to do – release the accumulated data from his incomplete trials and show the scientific community and the world at large that he ISNT just another money grubbing weasel.

FWIW, I emailed the following to [email protected]:

There is a doctor in Houston, Texas, who runs an eponymous “cancer clinic”. He purports to have an “all natural” cancer cure called “antineoplastons”, that is not chemotherapy, and will cure when conventional treatment has failed, even on the most rare and difficult types of cancers.

In fact, he sells chemotherapy – conventional chemotherapy drugs – marked up far beyond the prices patients would pay at regular hospitals. He treats on a cash only basis, and has attracted desperate patients from the US, Canada, Europe, and Australia.

Many of these are parents who have young children that have been treated by experts. Rather than enjoying their last days together as a family, they spend time in run-down motels, having scraped together the needed cash through friends, family, charity appeals, and others.

Google searches will yield names of some of Burczynski’s victims, as well as a couple of former patients that were mad as hell when they found out they were being swindled.

Burczynski has, in the past, threatened people. See the Respectful Insolence blog (written by breast cancer surgeon and researcher Dr David Gorski) and the Quackometer blog (written by Andy Lewis) for further details.

I believe this would be a good story for ProPublica to research and write. Exposing Burcynski would help to make a case to have his doctor’s licence revoked by the Texas Medical Board, one of the laxest medical licensing bodies in the country.

There is more, but I am sure – should ProPublica decide to look into this story – you will find out how horrible it is, and how many lives he has touched for the worse.

You know nothing about how exactly the human body functions at molecular level, as does Dr. Burzynski.

Given the miscellaneous oddities of tense construction in your broadcast, I would like to ask whether this is supposed to mean what it plainly reads as.

Jim, how does other pharmaceutical companies doing bad things exonerates Burzynski charging tens of thousands of dollars to desperate cancer patients okay dokay? Or makes it okay to claim he is doing clinical trials when he has never published any results?

At least the those drug companies do publish results, and are required to have the unpublished data available.

By the way, Burzynski also owns real companies: his clinic and the pharmacy where he charges exorbitant prices.

Should I waste my time and energy on Stanislaw R. Burzynski like people here? Or on:
2007 $515 Million: Bristol-Myers Squibb
2007 $634 Million: Purdue Pharma
1/2009 $1.415 Billion Fine: Eli Lilly and Company
2009 $2.3 Billion Fine: Pfizer
2010 $520 Million: AstraZeneca
2011 $950 Million: Merck
6/4/11 $327 Million Fine: Janssen Pharmaceutica
10/2011 $780 Million Fine: Amgen
4/11/12 $1.2 Billion Fine: Johnson & Johnson and subsidiary
5/10/12 $1.5 Billion Fine: Abbott Laboratories
7/2/12 $3 Billion Fine: GlaxoSmithKline
7/16/12 $13 Billion Fines: Big Pharma in 4 years
9/21/12 $11 Billion Fines: Pharmaceutical companies in last 3 years (8 out of top 10)
10/21/12 $1 Million Fine: Ft. Mill Pharmaceutical Company
10/26/12 $95 Million Fine: Boehringer Ingelheim
$760 Million (Pending): Amgen
$1.5 to $2 Billion Fine (Pending) Johnson & Johnson

There’s no reason we can’t do both; i.e., go after unethical “researchers” like Burzynski and keep an eye on pharmaceutical companies. Actually, Burzynski behaves more unethically than a pharmaceutical company in that he does things that pharmaceutical companies don’t do, such as charging patients huge sums of money to be in his “clinical trials.”

DJT – Big Pharma had me in a clinical trial for free. In fact, I was given money for parking and lunch.

Too bad the name of your hero ain’t on your list. An ol’ timey gibbeting would be more apropos but I’ll settle for stripping him of his acreage with custom wrought-iron gates.

Quickly again, cause work needs to be done. 🙂

@Grant

Please read carefully my sentence again. I’m not wrong, because I know what I’m talking about. Had you known “how exactly the human body functions at molecular level”, a cure for cancer would have been found.

Molecular biology touches only the surface. I’m talking about different spatial and temporal scales – access to which will provide a complete picture of the molecular processes within the human body. Yes, you do have some knowledge, but it just remains “decent”. Similar to the $200 billions over the last 35 years the US have invested in the “fight against cancer”. Scientific result = some “decent” progress. Real result = zero.

As for the subjectivity, how many times do you carefully and methodologically look at raw data coming from work done by other people, researchers, institutions? And how often do you just read the abstracts, introductions and conclusions of their reports? Give me these two numbers per number of reports per year and then we can talk about data and interpretation. Moreover, big (raw) data introduces even bigger biases.

@MarkL

You are funny too. Why do you think that I care about Burzynski? No need to convince me of anything – he is not the first, won’t be the last one to generate such a controversy. My point was that if he was a bad person of 100 on some random scale, there were many other people who would fell within the range 90-100, but apparently they served special interests and hence, better not talk about them. Objective and fair?

@Narad

No, it was not supposed to mean that. He also falls within the “not-knowing” category.
Grammar in comment sections in blogs is not my priority. When writing quickly, I often omit or misplace certain words/letters. Moreover, literature and language are not my strengths, so don’t claim proficiency.

@Chris

Let’s not go into the money thing, because healthcare takes 17.8% of the GDP of the country, so please. Healthcare costs faced by a cancer patient elsewhere are on the same order of magnitude as what Burzynski charges patients. When exactly the money is taken, before, during or after a clinical trial, is irrelevant from a patient’s point of view. It’s simply a “technicality”.

Drug companies have been required to provide their data to the public for about a couple of years now. Burzynski is not that different – sooner or later he will show you the data, what’s the problem? I don’t really see a big difference between his way of hiding data from the way drug companies and some researchers had hiden data for many years in the past.

@Orac

I disagree on two points:
1. You should go after all that do unethical things. Not “go after” Burzynski and just “keep an eye” on pharmaceutical. Bias?
2. How much does a human life cost? Let’s then talk about who behaves “more unethically”.

@DJT

This is actually a small list.
I know most of you would say that “all these companies did ethical things, but were unfortunately fined on technicality”…
Cheers!

Please read carefully my sentence again. I’m not wrong, because I know what I’m talking about. Had you known “how exactly the human body functions at molecular level”, a cure for cancer would have been found.

Molecular biology touches only the surface. I’m talking about different spatial and temporal scales – access to which will provide a complete picture of the molecular processes within the human body.

What a load of bollocks; you sound like a whiny homeopath who claims that “materialistic science” cannot measure homeopathic effects. The fact is Jim that much is known “at the molecular level” how cancers form. The problem is Jim is that cancers have multiple aetiologies and finding ways to kill the cancer without killing the patient are exceedingly difficult. You would know this if your understanding of molecular biology transcended everyone else’s as you imply.

I disagree on two points:
1. You should go after all that do unethical things. Not “go after” Burzynski and just “keep an eye” on pharmaceutical. Bias?
2. How much does a human life cost? Let’s then talk about who behaves “more unethically”.

A boring Tu Quoque argument. I have no love for pharmaceutical companies and their antics but the fact that they are held to a modicum of regulatory standards and fined for violations stands in stark contrast to the slimy dealings of Burzynski who has been left relatively unfettered to bilk individuals out of money and precious time.

I know most of you would say that “all these companies did ethical things, but were unfortunately fined on technicality”…

And you know this how? Because you have chosen to paint yourself into a corner with your rigid thinking? Pharma behaves badly and should be punished is not mutally exclusive of Burzynski behaves badly and should be punished. In fact it’s more consistent than the hand-waving rubbish you’ve produced.

Jim.

Ohhh, so we are being too nasty to Slimeball Stan and not nasty enough to other peddlers of woo? You obviously don’t read much of Orac’s output, they all come in for a bashing.

Oh wait – no, you appear to have changed tack again……. we are too mean to peddlers of woo and not mean enough to Big Pharma.

“Molecular biology touches only the surface. I’m talking about different spatial and temporal scales……..”

Oh wait, no, you are talking bollocks.

Let’s say I claimed to have a dietary cure for advanced cancers–lots of fresh green veggies, for example, and for several decades I’d been charging patients 10’s of thousands of dollars to participate in clinical trials of my diet but refused to make public the results of these trials. Further, I insist that my patients purchase their veggies at a specific grocery store where a head of lettuce goes for $2800 and tomatoes cost $395 each (and which–what a coincidence–I own.)

Now top that off with the fact that not only do I offer no evidence my diet works, but the diet has previously looked at by multiple independent researchers and found not to be an effective cancer treatment (just as phenyl butyrate–the pro-drug for the metabolites Burzynski calls antineoplastins–had been evaluated extensively without evidence of practical efficacy.)

Would you still be saying “No biggie–sooner or later he’ll show us the data so -where’s the problem?

@Jim

@Todd W.

I did not miss anything. I spend days to cover all Orac has written about that case.

“Burzynski’s practices and work” is too broad in scope to comment on it in a definitive manner.

Hey, way to focus on an aside, rather than on the actual question I asked, Jim! Wow. You sure brushed that inconvenient question out of the way. I admire your integrity and rhetorical skill. Tell me where I, too, can become as proficient as your own mighty self?

Now, then, Jim, how would any ruling on a point of administrative law said anything about whether or not Burzynski’s practices actually work as claimed?

Perhaps this time you’ll answer.

Okey-dokey. Exhibit 1:

Please read carefully my sentence again. I’m not wrong, because I know what I’m talking about.

Exhibit 2:

[Burzynski] also falls within the “not-knowing” category.

So, let’s play a game. Call it “Bunny Feedies.” Why was the cellular dynamics of non-purse-string wound healing well reckoned by washing out precisely the details of “molecular processes” that you’re nattering on about?

Orac: Do I understand correctly that you are really seriously attempting to contend that Big Pharma was Fined $13 BILLION (That is BILLION with a “B”) over this 4 year period and GlaxoSmithKline was Fined $3 BILLION this year (the largest ever Fine on a drug co) for behaving MORE ETHICALLY than SRB?
Please provide “FACTS” that support your false allegation that SRB “behaves more unethically” than Big Pharma in that he does things that Big Pharma doesn’t do.

al kimeea: Please see below regarding Big Pharma; whom I refrain from calling your “hero” as I have no “FACTS” to substantiate such a claim in the course of this lively civil discourse.
Please provide “FACTS” that support your false allegation that SRB is my “hero.”
Please provide “FACTS” on how much SRB has been Fined so that he may be added to my list.

I will happily accept your apologies.

Bristol-Myers Squibb
1. Gaming the system to jack up prices on a drug,
2. The FDA had approved a drug for adults, but not for children & adolescents, and not for geriatric patients suffering dementia. In fact, the agency explicitly warned against using it for dementia. BMS zeroed in on child psychiatrists & other pediatric specialists & created a team to exclusively call on nursing homes.

Purdue Pharma
1. Fraudulently misbranding drug for suggesting it was less addictive & less abused than other drugs,
2. Sales representatives saying users could stop using the drug, without withdrawal. Sales representatives were allowed to draw “fake scientific charts,” on the drug’s safety, which they passed out to physicians as proof of their claims.

Eli Lilly and Company
1. Allegations that they pushed drug for children & for elderly dementia patients, both off-label uses. Made particular efforts to push a drug in long-term care facilities & nursing homes. Aimed to make a drug a primary care drug, despite the fact that it was only approved to treat 2 disorders–typically not handled by primary-care doctors,
2. Misdemeanor misbranding charge for promoting drug off-label,
3. Civil wrap-up for the feds & to states that agreed to settle.

Pfizer
1. Improperly marketing drugs (It is illegal to promote uses for a drug that have not been approved by the FDA — a practice known as off-label marketing),
2. Encouraging doctors to prescribe its drugs with free golf, massages, & junkets to posh resorts,
3. At the very same time Pfizer was negotiating & resolving the allegations of criminal conduct by its then newly acquired subsidiary, Pfizer was itself in its other operations violating those very same laws,
4. Variety of marketing infractions. Sales reps were rewarded with junkets & cash for pushing a drug as a multi-purpose pain reliever when it was only approved for arthritis pain. Sales employees explained that off-label promotion was tolerated & no big deal, even though they knew it was illegal.

AstraZeneca
1. Pursued a host of ploys to get doctors to write off-label prescriptions for its drug, like paying them fees for articles & studies ghostwritten by others.
2. Drug had been approved for treatment of a number of uses, but investigators found that AZ was trying to get physicians to write prescriptions for a long list of uses for which the drug was not approved. Targeted doctors who did not typically treat the conditions the drug was approved for, such as physicians who treat the elderly, primary care physicians, pediatric & adolescent physicians.

Merck
1. Marketing allegations (hawked drug for an unapproved use),
2. Allegations that they exaggerated the drug’s safety & downplayed its risks. They pulled the drug for safety reasons after data linked it to increased risks of heart attack & stroke,
3. Reps misled doctors about the drugs safety to boost sales & that the company lied to state Medicaid programs about the drug’s risks,
4. [Misbranding] violation. Criminal fine-for a misdemeanor misbranding violation-payment to wrap up civil claims, including those filed by 40 states attorneys general.

Amgen
Allegations of kickbacks & other marketing infractions designed to boost sales of drugs.

Johnson & Johnson and subsidiary
1. Off-Label promotion (marketing practices involving 2 drugs, misbranding a drug),
2. State claims of Medicaid fraud,
3. Kickback allegations involving a nursing home pharmacy provider & several other drugs,
4. Texas settled its off-label marketing claims against J&J,
5. Arkansas, where a jury found the company guilty of fraudulently marketing a drug-and a judge ordered the company to pay a $1.2 billion penalty. (That award is under appeal.)

Abbott Laboratories
1. Marketing/Misbranding charge (promoted a product-a seizure drug-for off-label use in elderly dementia patients who became agitated or aggressive. A specialized, specially trained sales force pushed drug in nursing homes to help control these patients, even though it had no credible evidence that the drug was safe or effective for that use. Had to stop a clinical trial in elderly dementia patients because of adverse events. Pushed drug as a schizophrenia treatment. Though the drug was approved to treat mania in bipolar patients-and sometimes those patients display psychotic symptoms-clinical trials showed the drug added to antipsychotics didn’t help schizophrenia patients any more than the antipsychotics alone. The company didn’t tell sales reps about that data for 2 years),
2. Allegations that its marketing tactics triggered false claims to government health programs, including Medicare & Medicaid
3. Paid to wrap up consumer-protection claims at the state level.

GlaxoSmithKline
1. Illegal promotion of some of its products for unapproved uses not cleared by the FDA (promoting [marketing] off-label, non-covered uses),
2. Employed several tactics aimed at promoting the use of a drug, including helping to publish a medical journal article that misreported data from a clinical trial,
3. Failure to report safety data to the FDA (failed to report to the FDA on safety data from certain post-marketing studies & from 2 studies of the safety of a drug – drug linked to heart risks, failed to report data from studies detailing the safety risks to the FDA, allegations that it downplayed the safety risks of a drug, withheld data from the FDA until studies raised red flags about risks to the heart, false-claims allegations-exaggerating a drug’s benefits),
4. Alleged false price reporting (pricing & rebate claims),
5. Introducing misbranded drugs (2 misbranding charges),
6. Improper marketing of drugs (allegations of mismarketing 5 drugs),
7. Tried to win over doctors by paying for trips to Jamaica & Bermuda, as well as spa treatments & hunting excursions,
8. Alledgedly paid kickbacks to doctors to prescribe drugs,
9. Allegedly overcharged the government for drugs.

The Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA), the major pharma lobbying group, claims its members are “committed to following the highest ethical standards and all legal requirements,” according to PhRMA’s website. To demonstrate this, PhRMA members developed the “Code on Interactions with Healthcare Professionals,” which states that: Ethical relationships with healthcare professionals are critical to our mission of helping Patients . . . An important part of achieving this mission is ensuring that healthcare professionals have the latest, most accurate information available regarding prescription medicines.” Nearly 60 pharma companies; including Abbott, Pfizer, Eli Lilly, Glaxo, J&J and Amgen, are signatories to the code. At least 3 of them: Abbott, Pfizer & Eli Lilly – while the PhRMA code was in place they committed these billion-dollar-plus violations.

So, your argument is, Didymus Judas Thomas, that because of Big Pharma was naughty that it is okay dokay for Burzynski to charge tens of thousands of dollars to be part of his “clinical trials”, that he has conducted for thirty years but has not published are real results.

It seems things are getting interesting here. 🙂 So interesting that some egocentric people, a.k.a. the God of Science, found a way to disseminate their anger via usage of offensive language. @Mom, I’m sorry for being a “rigid”, “rubbish” “homeopath” and do not live up to your standards of holy knowledge. My deep apologies, it won’t happen again.

Next.

@al kimeea

Mutual.

@MarkL

You are killing me. You must be a comedian, right?
Do you think I expect comedians to really understand science?

@JGC

Some of your statements are not factual. Regardless, if you hold a single person so much accountable when evidences for a myriad of similar or even worse practices exist , my answer to your question would be Yes. It will be Yes until you realize how hypocritically you act by showing double standards.

@Todd W.

Ignoring the irony, I gave an answer to your question to the extent I was able to answer. If you want an answer, I’d say “I don’t know how.” However, as far as a remember, the results of this ruling have triggered this post we are commenting on right now. And as far as I remember, many people, including the writer, inferred many things about the Burzynski’s practices regardless of the nature of the ruling. So, why not wait for a non-administrative ruling and then make your huge accusations?

But no, many of you cannot wait for this. They are the Gods and only a few (actually one unlucky) are highly “privileged” to experience their judgmental force. Others with similar sins are intentionally excluded. It looks like a modern version of ritual human sacrifice to Gods.

@Narad

I don’t play games. Moreover, your games are becoming boring.

@All

I came here to say a single thing:

“The writer shows a huge bias in this post probably derived from his opinionated nature, personal experiences and biological & social instinct for survival pushing towards finding a culprit and exposing him (as a scapegoat), which makes the writings unattractive and highly subjective. 25% more objectivity by showing other sides of the same problem would make a pleasant difference. Otherwise, it looks like the author has something personal against some individual, named Dr. Burzynski in this particular case.”

Whatever else topic you implied or tried to propagate to me remained somewhat irrelevant and I did not really feel you talked to me.

The logic is nonexistent anymore, so:

Have a good day. Positivism can help with anger and other personal physiological issues.

PS. @DJT, thanks for trying to balance the discussion by shedding some light onto the same, but real and much bigger problem than the one being described here.

Please provide “FACTS” that support your false allegation that SRB “behaves more unethically” than Big Pharma in that he does things that Big Pharma doesn’t do.

Are you going to get to the question that was posed to you?

“The writer shows a huge bias in this post probably derived from his opinionated nature, personal experiences and biological & social instinct for survival pushing towards finding a culprit and exposing him (as a scapegoat), which makes the writings unattractive and highly subjective. 25% more objectivity by showing other sides of the same problem would make a pleasant difference. Otherwise, it looks like the author has something personal against some individual, named Dr. Burzynski in this particular case.”

Yup. Classic crap artist techniques. “In actuality, all I know about Orac is that my fee-fees get hurt when he says mean things about my pwecious Stanley. But if I talk about his ‘opinionated nature,’ ‘personal experiences,’ ‘biological & social instinct for survival pushing towards finding a culprit,’ I might fool some rubes into thinking I’m doing anything more than airing out my pie-hole.”

Fact: Burzynski has been claiming for thirty years that he has vital knowledge about how to treat cancer.

Fact: Burzynski has had thirty years to actually demonstrate the truth of that claim by doing the studies. He hasn’t.

Fact: Burzynski has instead over those thirty years enriched himself by misleading desperate patients into buying standard chemotherapy drugs at highly inflated, nonstandard prices.

Fact: Nothing that anyone else on Earth does – not Big Pharma, not Pol Pot nor Idi Amin nor Jeffrey Dahmer nor Charlie Manson – make any of the above less wrong for Burzynski to do.

How come you don’t care about cannibalism and murder, Diddums? Surely you can’t criticize Big Pharma unless you first criticize everyone who’s actually gone out and committed violent murder with their own hands, especially those who then go on to eat their victims! If not, aren’t you essentially giving a free pass to murderous cannibals by focusing on Big Pharma instead?

See, that’s the kind of absurd logic you get by refusing to realize that “tu quoque” is a fallacy. The fact is that Burzynski acts unethically and nothing obligates us to delay talking about his unethical acts until we’ve gone through all the conversational detours you’d love us to go through.

Oh, dear, “Jim” isn’t CITIZEN JIMSERAC, is it?

Could be:

I submit that Homeopathy, if proven,
provides the missing link, the alternative
viewpoint which is superior to the
totally reductionistic approach in handling
problems of the above mentioned kind.

Same pompous, vapid, bluster.

Chris, it is somewhat ironic that your Location is “Neither here nor there…” since “Neither here nor there” did I indicate that my argument was “that because of Big Pharma was naughty that it is okay dokay for Burzynski to charge tens of thousands of dollars to be part of his “clinical trials”, that he has conducted for thirty years but has not published are real results.”

I will be happy to accept your apology.

Chris, if I understand you correctly, you want me to do your research for you. Thank you for the opportunity to do your research for you.

Below are resources for your reading enjoyment.
You can access the link below re SRB and view the clinical trials. Please feel free to read the available information about exceptions to results being required to be submitted. Perhaps SRB’s work comes under an exception. You may contact them on their site by phone & live chat with any questions you might have.

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/resultsterm=Burzynski&Search=Search

Per-patient clinical trial costs have risen an average 70% across all development phases since 2008. Phase I per-patient costs increased an average 46%. Phase II costs increased an average 72%. The largest increases in per-patient costs came in Phase IIIa & Phase IIIb, which saw an average 88% & 86% rise, respectively.
The most significant factor for increased clinical trial costs is patient recruitment. This comes as no surprise because clinical development teams have struggled to enroll sufficient volunteers to fill trials for several years now.
Dramatic rise in cost to research & develop drugs that are eventually brought to market: In 1975, bringing a drug to market cost $100 million in 2012-adjusted dollars. By 2005, that figure had exploded to more than $1.3 billion, according to numbers from the Tufts Center for the Study of Drug Development.
The top 20 drug companies spend $30 billion on research & development, about 40% of which goes to fund clinical trials.
8 of the top 15 drug companies did not get the go-ahead for a single drug last year.
In 1980, drug companies spent some $2 billion on R&D, and 34 new drugs were approved. In 2000, they spent close to $30 billion, but only 24 drugs were approved.
Completing all the phases of clinical trials required for approval of a new drug can cost anywhere from $300 to $800 million.
Although the NIH budget has doubled in the past five years-with the implied purpose of encouraging the development of new drugs-the FDA’s budget remains inadequate to review these drugs for qualification.

http://www.pdpipeline.org/2011/clinicaltrials/recruitretention.htm

http://www.cuttingedgeinfo.com/2011/per-patient-clinical-trial-costs

http://www.pharmalot.com/2011/07/clinical-trial-costs-for-each-patient-rose-rapidly

http://www.raps.org/focus-online/news/news-article-view/article/1359/report-phase-iii-clinical-trials-behind-increase-in-the-cost-of-pharmaceuticals.aspx

http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2012/04/25/how-the-fda-stifles-new-cures-part-ii-90-of-clinical-trial-costs-are-incurred-in-phase-iii

http://www.ciscrp.org/professional/facts_pat.html

Narad, did you read the post I posted before your post? Here is more interesting reading:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/dr-peter-breggin/drug-companies_b_1646934.html

Extreme tactics have also been used by other drug companies in regard to marketing psychiatric drugs for children. Drug companies allegedly paid 7 figures to 3 Harvard professors of psychiatry – who then went on to encourage diagnosing children with bipolar disorder & medicating them with antipsychotic drugs.

@DJT,

I am aware of that. Please keep in mind that pharma company got no free lunch here (and I also used to read 1boringoldman’s blog) but also, keep in mind if it was not for pharma company and their medication, I’d be dead today.

Alain

Diddums has just cited well known crank Peter Breggin, can Mercola, Adams and Null be far behind. Does anyone know if Breggin has been on Alex Jones’ Prison Planet?

Breggin does have his own weekly show on PRN – I assume Denice is more familiar with him. I have read part of one of his books back in my altie days and was favorably impressed at the time. However, the more I have heard of him lately, and the more I have learned about neuroscience the more convinced I am that he is a mental illness denialist. As the evidence for a biological and often genetic in various mental illness increases, he doubles down on the denialism. I would like to hear DWs take on him.

1. You should go after all that do unethical things. Not “go after” Burzynski and just “keep an eye” on pharmaceutical. Bias?

Apparently there is an Internet Law that prevents Jim and any bloggers other than Orac from criticising ethical violations in the cancer-treatment field. Otherwise Jim would be able to “go after all that do unethical things” rather than demanding that Orac do it.

Didymus Judas Thomas, okay, do my research for me:

Tell me the title, date and journal of the PubMed indexed paper where the results of those clinical are published. Then tell us why the one Phase 3 clinical trial is not allowing participants.

@AdamG

Now there’s a howler that the rest of us missed. I am thinking Bo Diddly’s dimmer brother must be living on a planet where underpants are worn on the head on a regular basis.

I think we are dealing with a bull$hitter in the philosophical sense i.e. someone who does not care whether what they say is true or false.

You can access the link below re SRB and view the clinical trials. […].
http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/resultsterm=Burzynski&Search=Search

Most commenters here are familiar with the clinicaltrials.gov database. It lists 62 trials under “burzynski”, most of them registered in a flurry of activity on Nov. 1 1999 which presumably corresponds to the opening of the legal loophole that Burzynski is exploiting. One of those 62 is someone else’s research on tuberculosis.

*One* study has been “completed” (in 2009; no results published); two have been “terminated” (i.e. abandoned without results due to too few subjects). Seven were “withdrawn” after seven years because Burzynski had not bothered recording any subjects at all. One (registered 2010) is not yet recording subjects.

The other 51 are all “status unknown” because Burzynski has not bothered updating the records with information about subjects.

Is this intended to convince anyone of Burzynski’s sincerity and commitment to testing the efficacy of his treatment?

Militant Agnostic: “[C]rank Peter Breggin must be a pretty good “crank” seeing as how he has been a medical expert in a number of product liability suits against drug companies & a judge made public his report as noted in the link I provided.

Chris, here are the PubMed’s:
Antineoplaston A in cancer therapy. (I).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/275868
Antineoplastons: history of the research (I).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3527634
Phase I clinical studies of antineoplaston A3 injections.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3569012
Phase I clinical studies of antineoplaston A5 injections.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3569014
Initial clinical study with antineoplaston A2 injections in cancer patients with five years’ follow-up.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3569010
Preclinical studies on antineoplaston AS2-1 and antineoplaston AS2-5.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3743376
Toxicology studies on antineoplaston AS2-5 injections in cancer patients.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3743377
Toxicology studies on antineoplaston AS2-1 injections in cancer patients.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3743378
Toxicology studies on antineoplaston A10 injections in cancer patients.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3743380
Chronic animal toxicity studies on antineoplaston A2.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3743382
Potential of antineoplastons in diseases of old age.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8535046
Efficacy of antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10377942
Phase II study of antineoplaston A10 and AS2-1 in patients with recurrent diffuse intrinsic brain stem glioma: a preliminary report.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12718563
The present state of antineoplaston research (1).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15035876
Long-term survival and complete response of a patient with recurrent diffuse intrinsic brain stem glioblastoma multiforme.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15312271
Phase II study of antineoplaston A10 and AS2-1 in children with recurrent and progressive multicentric glioma : a preliminary report.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15563234
Long-term survival of high-risk pediatric patients with primitive neuroectodermal tumors treated with antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15911929
Targeted therapy with antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 of high-grade, recurrent, and progressive brainstem glioma.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16484713
Treatments for astrocytic tumors in children: current and emerging strategies
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16774296
Stanislaw R. Burzynski, MD, PhD: novel cancer research and the fight to prove its worth.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22875562

So Jim has departed having been exposed as a troll. Did he ever put forward a real complaint other than “I don’t like Orac” ?

It is ironic in the extreme that his complaint was dressed up as “Orac holds a personal grudge against Burzynski”.

from wiki here’s what several other judges have had to say aboot Breggin’s “expertise”

Several judges have questioned Breggin’s credibility as an expert witness. For example, a Maryland judge in a medical malpractice case in 1995 said, “I believe that his bias in this case is blinding… he was mistaken in a lot of the factual basis for which he expressed his opinion.”[48] In that same year a Virginia judge excluded Breggin’s testimony stating, “This court finds that the evidence of Peter Breggin, as a purported expert, fails nearly all particulars under the standard set forth in Daubert and its progeny…. Simply put, the Court believes that Dr. Breggin’s opinions do not rise to the level of an opinion based on ‘good science.'”[49][50] [51]

However, according to The Denver Post, the judge of the case “…was visibly angry that the experts failed to view evidence prior to their depositions” even though they had months to do so. The evidence would have included hundreds of documents including a significant amount of video and audio tape that the killers had recorded. The judge stated, “…lawyers will be free to attack them on the basis of the evidence they haven’t seen and haven’t factored into their opinions.”[53] The lawsuit was eventually dropped with the stipulation that the makers of Luvox donate $10,000 to the American Cancer Society.[52]

n 2005, the Philadelphia County Court of Common Pleas disqualified the testimony of Breggin because it did not meet the scientific rigor established by the Frye standard. The judge stated “…Breggin spends 14 pages critiquing the treatment provided not because it ran counter to the acceptable standards of care, but because it ran counter to Breggin’s personal ideas and ideologies of what the standards ought to be.”[54]

Some of your statements are not factual.
Which statements are not factual? Be specific.

Regardless, if you hold a single person so much accountable when evidences for a myriad of similar or even worse practices exist , my answer to your question would be Yes.

Would you argue we should not spend time and resources addressing domestic abuse and burglary as long as murders and armed robberies occur? A simple yes or no answer would be appreciated.

It will be Yes until you realize how hypocritically you act by showing double standards.

Strawman fallacy–what double standard could you be talking about? No one here, and certainly not me, is arguing pharmaceutical companies should not be held accountable if and when they act in an unethical or illegal manner.

Didymus Judas Thomas, most of those are ongoing and not final reports. Did you even read the titles when you cut and pasted? The last one is just an editorial.

Now pick out one that proves Burzynski’s form of chemotherapy works better than present treatments. Just one, and quote the results.

As a comparison, tell us if it works better than Gleevec does for chronic myelogenous leukemia for the condition that the one report you choose is about.

Then go and find out what happened to the Phase 3 clinical trial. How many subjects have they recruited? Are they charging them?

Jim,

Shifting the focus is a very convenient strategy.

It doesn’t seem to be working out too well for you.

Diddums, your Gish Gallup shows exactly what? Self-promotion of Burzynski, old and failed trials for safety and efficacy and zero replication. After 30+ years of this scam he still doesn’t have FDA approval.

Did you actually follow up on the links you provide in your post above, Didymus, or did you just copy-pasta from some pro-Burzxynski website? These citations don’t ptovide any evidence Burzynski’s antineoplastin protocols are safe or effective treatments for cancer.

They’re either review articles (e.g. “Antineoplastons: history of the research”, “Treatments for astrocytic tumors in children: current and emerging strategies”, etc.) or published abstracts from presentations or posters Burzynski ‘s given at different conferences which have not undergone perr-review ( e.g., “The present state of antineoplaston research”,“Long-term survival and complete response of a patient with recurrent diffuse intrinsic brain stem glioblastoma multiforme”.,”Phase II study of antineoplaston A10 and AS2-1 in children with recurrent and progressive multicentric glioma : a preliminary report” , “Long-term survival of high-risk pediatric patients with primitive neuroectodermal tumors treated with antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1”, etc.)

What they are not is peer-reviewed publications providing data or analysis from any of the ‘clinical trials’ Burzynski’s supposedly been conducting for the past several decades, demonstrating that antineoplastins are either safe or effective as a treatment for advanced (or for that matter any ) cancers.

Science Mom:

After 30+ years of this scam he still doesn’t have FDA approval.

As opposed to Gleevec. It took less than five years for it to be approved for a couple types of cancer.

JGC, that is why I asked him if he had even read the titles of those papers.

@ Chris:

It’s like when anti-SBM prevaricators quote Ben Goldacre: I wonder if they ever even read complete sentences or just fish out random phrases with which they agree.

the biggest problem advocates of the various woo’s face isn’t that they have no evidence their preferred brand of woo is effective, it’s that they have no idea what evidence it works would look like.

Antaeus Feldspar, please state “FACTS” that support your false claim that I “don’t care about cannibalism and murder.” The post in question is about SRB and that is what my writings have been directed at. Sure I can criticize Big Pharma first, because I live in The United States of America and have Freedom of Speech. I am not bound to discuss what you may want to discuss as an aside.

Alain, I am glad you are alive. I may possibly be alive for the same reason.

AdamG, I take it that you did not click on the above links that I provided and read the contents thereof. Please view the 1st link re pdpipeline. I am living on planet Earth. What solar system are you living in?

Militant Agnostic, I hope you are not using unsoiled underpants.

al kimeea, the above link I provided re Breggin; which I guess you did not read, is dated 2006 as far as the case. We all know that Wikipedia is a credible resource seeing as how under Burzynski / Legal issues, at the very bottom it cites a “review” where the “reviewer” didn’t actually “review” (watch) the movie, but that “FACT” isn’t pointed out on Wikipedia. You actually have to click on the [51] link to access the link to the “review” where it admits that the author “hasn’t seen the movie.”

@Didymus – so, no comment on the fact that the links you provided in PubMed don’t say what you think they say?

AdamG, I take it that you did not click on the above links that I provided and read the contents thereof. Please view the 1st link re pdpipeline.

Oh, I read the links. That doesn’t change the fact that this statement:

the NIH budget has doubled in the past five years

Is completely, demonstrably false. If you’re willing to post such falsehoods, and then double down when caught in an obvious mistake, how am I to trust any of the sources you cite?

It’s clear you didn’t actually read my link, so here’s the actual report from Science on NIH funding:

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/328/5979/676.full

I’m curious, DJT, have you graced us with your enlightening presence before?

The smell of socks is strong with this one.

the above link I provided re Breggin; which I guess you did not read, is dated 2006 as far as the case. We all know that Wikipedia is a credible resource seeing as how under Burzynski / Legal issues, at the very bottom it cites a “review” where the “reviewer” didn’t actually “review” (watch) the movie

Um, something about a review of the Merola infomerical has precisely what to do with your LOOK A SQUIRREL injection of Breggin going on in the eminently “credible resource” HuffPo?

Didymus Judas Thomas, come on! Cite and quote which one of those papers in your Gish Gallop shows that Burzynski’s treatment works as well as Gleevec for its specific kind of cancer. At least one was for leukemia.

Christ:
Tell me the title, date and journal of the PubMed indexed paper where the results of those clinical are published.

Didymus Judas Thomas:
Chris, here are the PubMed’s:
[…]

I hope it is not unduly pedantic to point out that anything labeled “Preclinical studies” or “Toxicology study” is not clinical results.

Chris, do you have any “FACTS” supporting your innuendo that I did not read the titles? Please explain why I should “pick out one.” After all, I have not yet seen your apology and you have not used the “Magic Word.” You do know what the “Magic Word” is, right, Chris? The “Magic Word” is “Please.”

Science Mom, have you read my previous post & links re the difficulties, time, and expense involved in obtaining FDA approval? Did you watch the Burzynski movie as I did & note near the end where it showed that it would take $300 Million for the FDA III trial? And that amount may have risen since then.

JGC, please explain how I would have been able to provide the above links without following up on them. Have you reviewed Burzynski’s sites to determine if the links are there?

Lawrence, “links … don’t say what [I] think they say?” Please cite where I said what the links would say.

AdamG, please cite the “FACTS” which buttress your unproven inane statement that “It’s clear that [I] didn’t actually read [your] link. When viewing that site were you able to draw a conclusion as to what years the NIH statement was referring to? I think the more important part of the statement is the part re the FDA. I’m not even going to waste my time answering your last question since I answered your question about what planet I live on but you did not answer my question about what solar system you’re from.

Narad, since al kimeea brought up wiki I commented on the credibility of information on wiki re Burzynski since this post is about SRB. I brought up Breggin since his comments on HuffPo are re Big Pharma. I also construed Breggin’s comments re no requirement for drug co’s to disclose certain information, as also applying to SRB.

Chris, I actually do other things during the day other then feverishly monitor what comments are being posted here. My statement at the top of this applies.

herr doktor bimler, where does Chris’ post state “clinical results?” It states “clinical.” As far as I’m concerned that left it up to my discretion as to what to choose to post.

JGC, please explain how I would have been able to provide the above links without following up on them.

Perhaps by going to the list of publications on the Burzinsky clinic website (www.burzynskiclinic.com/publications.html) and then pulling up the pubmed links without looking further? OR maybe you got lucky amd simply cut and paste the list with the pubmed links intact from one of the many websites Burzynski’s marks, convinced he’s the real deal, have set up to promote his clinic.

The real question, if we accept you did actually follow up and examine the citations you’ve offered, is however did you fail to realize they offer no evidence antineoplastins are safe or effective?

Diddums, you said:

“herr doktor bimler, where does Chris’ post state “clinical results?” It states “clinical.” As far as I’m concerned that left it up to my discretion as to what to choose to post.”

Lets look at what Chris said:

“Tell me the title, date and journal of the PubMed indexed paper where the RESULTS of those clinical are published. Then tell us why the one Phase 3 clinical trial is not allowing participants.”

To make it easy I have capitalized the relevant word in Chris’s request.

Still having difficulty Diddums?

We will await the data.

As far as I’m concerned that left it up to my discretion as to what to choose to post.

*Of course* it’s up to you what information you link to, whether or not it’s relevant or persuasive. This is an internet comment thread — not a Wikipedia page where someone else will delete your contributions if they’re bullsh1t.

When viewing that site were you able to draw a conclusion as to what years the NIH statement was referring to?

Given that the article was written in 2012, and that the statement refers to the past 5 years, the article is clearly claiming that the NIH budget doubled in the period from 2007-2012.

Do you believe that this is a factual claim or not? If so, please cite the “FACTS” that support this unproven inane statement.

For someone so focused on facts and proof, why won’t you acknowledge that this is an erroneous statement?

The “Magic Word” is “Please.”

I thought the magic word was “abracadabra”.

Is it me or does this smack of a pyramid scheme? Like in the mob where there are levels of people below the boss, so that the boss is forever covered should the law ever get near prosecuting someone…

The last time it did was back in the 1990s. Will it be in the 2020s before a future board decides to try again, or will Burzynski retire or die before then, leaving his son Greg to carry on the family business?

I’m betting on sonny-boy.

@Edith

As far as I’m concerned: until Burzynski’s shut down for good, Orac can’t write often enough about him.

I agree!

@Todd W

It would be nice to have them do something about the clinical trials themselves, given how long they’ve been going with zero published results and no wrap-up date in sight. Honestly, not certain what the hold up is, there.

Forgive my ignorance, but are studies allowed to be open-ended in terms of time scales? Is there any regulation that says the study lasts X long, and after that date, you need to get an extension and/or end the study? And if extensions exist, are there any limits on how long/how many you can get?

@Roger

He/she has never even there during this legal process.

Last Thursday-ism, love it! That’s not been used for a while…

Also (and @Jim)

Science ≠ law

@Jim

But we already knew surgeons are pretty biased …

Well, that’s evidence that Burzyinski’s treatments work…

Don’t try to represent science as the only true solution to all problems – it is not.

Lovely, now we have the “other ways of knowing” fallacy.

You know nothing about how exactly the human body functions at molecular level, as does Dr. Burzynski.

Cue the word, “quantum”.

I’m talking about different spatial and temporal scales – access to which will provide a complete picture of the molecular processes within the human body.

Close enough…

When exactly the money is taken, before, during or after a clinical trial, is irrelevant from a patient’s point of view.

Yeah, that’s not how it works. Patients do not pay anything, before, during or after a clinical trial. Private and public donors might, but that’s not quite the same thing: and you know it.

Burzynski is not that different – sooner or later he will show you the data, what’s the problem?

I guess people take issue with it being ‘later’. 30 years is enough time to show evidence of some kind – why wait so long?

God of Science

And now we have the “science is religion” fallacy.

Whatever else topic you implied or tried to propagate to me remained somewhat irrelevant and I did not really feel you talked to me.

And now the flounce…

@JBC

If I hire someone to kill my spouse, I am guilty of murder as I understand it. How is this different?

I’m guessing the assumption is that each doctor (should) take it upon him/herself to treat the patient according to their own knowledge/experience/conscience, and that therefore have more individual responsibility. IANAL or doctor, but that would be my guess.

@Didymus Judas Thomas

You are hilarious – but quite outmatched. Your debate tactics seem to be ‘argue semantics’ rather than ‘argue the point’.

@flip

Forgive my ignorance, but are studies allowed to be open-ended in terms of time scales? Is there any regulation that says the study lasts X long, and after that date, you need to get an extension and/or end the study? And if extensions exist, are there any limits on how long/how many you can get?

To my recollection, there are no such laws. However, IRBs who are doing their jobs would normally take a look at subject enrollment and expected targets, then decide that if enrollment is stagnant for some period of time, that perhaps the study should be closed, unless there is some very compelling reason to keep it open.

One way that his trials might be shut down is to target the IRB. If they persist in violating IRB regulations, they could be stripped of their approval. If that happens, then he would need to find a new IRB to oversee his studies. If he doesn’t do that, then his studies would be illegal, as they would be operating without IRB approval.

Narad, since al kimeea brought up wiki I commented on the credibility of information on wiki re Burzynski since this post is about SRB. I brought up Breggin since his comments on HuffPo are re Big Pharma. I also construed Breggin’s comments re no requirement for drug co’s to disclose certain information, as also applying to SRB.

No, Peaches, you got asshurt over having pointed out that Breggin, who you invoked to persist in trying to change the subject, is a crank, pouted about his being “a medical expert in a number of product liability suits against drug companies,” then cranked up the pissiness when it was pointed out that he’s proved to be a really sh*tty expert witness and tried to impugn the source by observing that Wikipedia linked to a bad review of the Burzynski movie that you were able to find fault with. That’s a really f*cking impressive gotcha.

It was colossally stupid to invoke Breggin in the first place, as he’s completely unnecessary to the diversionary maneuver, and you just kept piling it on.

No real sciency comment to make so I’ll chuck in an Ad Hom.

We really should refer to DJT as Epi. It’s the nearest to Balls as anything I’ve ever read on this fine site. (Stand Fast Dana Ullman)

Epi and dydimous. Did you see what I did there?

Given that the article was written in 2012, and that the statement refers to the past 5 years, the article is clearly claiming that the NIH budget doubled in the period from 2007-2012.

The only period since 1980 that the claim can accurately refer to is 1998–2003, which makes one wonder why it’s being parroted right here and right now. Actually, scratch that last bit.

Didymus Judas Thomas:

Chris, do you have any “FACTS” supporting your innuendo that I did not read the titles? Please explain why I should “pick out one.” After all, I have not yet seen your apology and you have not used the “Magic Word.” You do know what the “Magic Word” is, right, Chris? The “Magic Word” is “Please.”

The fact that you claimed that some papers were results, when the titles clearly indicated they were not. I even included one of those titles. Now here it is again with some others:

ntineoplastons: history of the research (I).

Preclinical studies on antineoplaston AS2-1 and antineoplaston AS2-5.

Toxicology studies on antineoplaston AS2-5 injections in cancer patients.

Toxicology studies on antineoplaston AS2-1 injections in cancer patients.

Toxicology studies on antineoplaston A10 injections in cancer patients.

Chronic animal toxicity studies on antineoplaston A2.

Potential of antineoplastons in diseases of old age.

The present state of antineoplaston research (1).

Long-term survival and complete response of a patient with recurrent diffuse intrinsic brain stem glioblastoma multiforme.

Treatments for astrocytic tumors in children: current and emerging strategies

Stanislaw R. Burzynski, MD, PhD: novel cancer research and the fight to prove its worth.

From reading the titles, I can see none of them are results of a full clinical trial. In fact, in some of the papers claiming to be “results” were actually opinion pieces. You were asked specifically before you posted that Gish Gallop:

Tell me the title, date and journal of the PubMed indexed paper where the results of those clinical are published. Then tell us why the one Phase 3 clinical trial is not allowing participants.

Though I did skip the word “trials” after the word “clinical.” This is a blog, typos and dropped words happen.

Now, please cite one paper that shows the clinical results that match the efficacy of Gleevec. And do you have an answer as to why the Phase 3 clinical trial is not allowing participants?

Science Mom, have you read my previous post & links re the difficulties, time, and expense involved in obtaining FDA approval?

Believe it or not, I’m quite familiar with the FDA approval process and I’m not exactly feeling sorry for rich old Burzynski who has made his nut off the backs of desperate people. He has chosen to make claims of miracle cure then he had better have something to show for it; no one is keeping him from doing so.

Did you watch the Burzynski movie as I did & note near the end where it showed that it would take $300 Million for the FDA III trial? And that amount may have risen since then.

But of course, let’s decide treatment merit based upon a self-promoted and aggrandised movie. In fact, screw peer review and regulation, let’s pass drugs onto consumers based upon YooTube vids.

Aww, and poor wittle Burzynski sitting in his gauche mansion. What do you think venture capitalists are for Diddums? If he had such a great product, he would have no trouble getting investors. Why doesn’t he?

Did you watch the Burzynski movie as I did & note near the end where it showed that it would take $300 Million for the FDA III trial?

Are we to read this as a concession that Burzynski has in fact no intention of conducting a Phase-III trial, and that his application to do so — and his claim to be recruiting subjects — are fraudulent?

Antaeus Feldspar, please state “FACTS” that support your false claim that I “don’t care about cannibalism and murder.” The post in question is about SRB and that is what my writings have been directed at. Sure I can criticize Big Pharma first, because I live in The United States of America and have Freedom of Speech. I am not bound to discuss what you may want to discuss as an aside.

Wow, you really don’t have much self-awareness, do you?

We are discussing Burzynski. You are the one coming along and trying to tell us that we are violating some principle or other if we discuss Burzynski rather than Big Pharma, and that our violation of that principle indicates that we don’t want to hold Big Pharma responsible for its misdeeds.

My mocking suggestion that, if you wanted to focus attention on Big Pharma rather than cannibalism and murder, you would be violating a similar principle and indicating you didn’t want to hold murderous cannibals responsible for their acts, is what’s called a reductio ad absurdam. It’s a way of saying “your logic is BS, because you can apply it to a valid set of premises and yet reach this completely absurd conclusion.”

I’m afraid I made a mistake in assuming you could think clearly enough to draw the obvious connection between what you were facetiously accused of and what you had just accused us of. I’ll try not to overestimate you like that in the future.

hdb:

Are we to read this as a concession that Burzynski has in fact no intention of conducting a Phase-III trial, and that his application to do so — and his claim to be recruiting subjects — are fraudulent?

Especially since Burzynski actually charges the patients the cost of the clinical trial.

Are we to read this as a concession that Burzynski has in fact no intention of conducting a Phase-III trial, and that his application to do so — and his claim to be recruiting subjects — are fraudulent?

Nice catch HDB. Perhaps Diddums will be along to throw another shiny object in our paths to avoid answering this.

There’s really only two possibilities I see: either Burzynski’s decades of clinical trials have produced no evidence antineoplastins work or evidence they don’t work, inwhich case he’s s a fraud, or they’ve shown they do work but he’s withholding publication to ensure a monopoly for his clinic thereby denying millions of cancer patients access to his miracle cure

@Todd W

Thanks – so it’s clear to me that if the IRB is corrupt, then the studies have very little chance of being done properly?

This is a test since I submitted a response to JGC over 4 hours ago which indicated it was under review for posting but hasn’t posted. So, I am seeing if my posting is being denied, or what.

@didymus – if you are unaware (and you mostly like are), there is a comment filter in place that activates under certain circumstances (key words for example, or too many links) to prevent the spamming of this blog.

The blog author isn’t a machine (well, mostly not a machine, lol) and gets to the held comments when he is able.

So, how about a real retort instead of whining.

JGC, did you actually access the link you provided? Because there are no links on the Publication page to PubMed. Please advise which SRB site has links to PubMed and/or matches the list I made from:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed
Please explain to me how & when it became my responsibility to state an opinion re the efficacy of Antineoplastons (not Antineoplastins). Don’t take my word for it, read what the National Cancer Institute at the National Institutes of Health:
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/antineoplastons/patient/page2
and American Cancer Society says:
http://m.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/complementaryandalternativemedicine/pharmacologicalandbiologicaltreatment/antineoplaston-therapy

And we can ask why there’s been so much research and patents issued re Antineoplastons:
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/antineoplastons/healthprofessional/page2
Non-SRB Antineoplaston 1986-1989 (in date order):
Preclinical studies on antineoplaston A10 injections. Ashraf AQ, et al. Drugs Exp Clin Res. 1986
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3743379
3-Phenylacetylamino-2,6-piperidinedione, a naturally-occurring peptide analogue with apparent antineoplastic activity, may bind to DNA. Lehner AF, et al. Drugs Exp Clin Res. 1986
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3743381
Altered methylation complex isozymes as selective targets for cancer chemotherapy. Liau MC, et al. Drugs Exp Clin Res. 1986
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3743383
In vitro cancer growth inhibition and animal toxicity studies of antineoplaston A3. Lee SS, et al. Drugs Exp Clin Res. 1987
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3569011
Tissue culture and animal toxicity studies of antineoplaston A5. Lee SS, et al. Drugs Exp Clin Res. 1987
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3569013
Pharmacokinetic study of radioactive antineoplaston A10 following oral administration in rats. Ashraf AQ, et al. Drugs Exp Clin Res. 1987
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3569015
Chemoprevention by antineoplaston A10 of benzo(a)pyrene-induced pulmonary neoplasia. Kampalath BN, et al. Drugs Exp Clin Res. 1987
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3569016
N,N’-disubstituted L-isoglutamines as novel cancer chemotherapeutic agents. Khalid M, et al. Drugs Exp Clin Res. 1987
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3569017
Quantitative assay of plasma and urinary peptides as an aid for the evaluation of cancer patients undergoing antineoplaston therapy. Liau MC, et al. Drugs Exp Clin Res. 1987
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3569018
Chemo-surveillance: a novel concept of the natural defence mechanism against cancer. Liau MC, et al. Drugs Exp Clin Res. 1987
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3569019
Stereochemical modelling studies of the interaction of antineoplaston A10 with DNA. Hendry LB, et al. Drugs Exp Clin Res. 1987
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3569020
Inhibition of spontaneous mouse mammary tumour development by antineoplaston A10. Muldoon TG, et al. Drugs Exp Clin Res. 1987
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3569021
Actions of an endogenous antitumorigenic agent on mammary tumor development and modeling analysis of its capacity for interacting with DNA. Hendry LB, et al. J Steroid Biochem. 1988
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3133525
Chemopreventive effect of antineoplaston A-10 on urethane-induced pulmonary neoplasm in mice. Eriguchi N, et al. Nihon Gan Chiryo Gakkai Shi. 1988

Non-SRB Antineoplaston 1990-1999 (in date order)
Theoretical investigations on the structure and potential binding sites of antineoplaston A10 and experimental findings. Michalska D, et al. Drugs Exp Clin Res. 1990
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2092960
Pharmacokinetic study of radioactive antineoplaston A10 in rats and mice. Xu W, et al. Drugs Exp Clin Res. 1990
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2092961
Studies of the release rate and bioavailability of antineoplaston A10 capsule. Wang H, et al. Drugs Exp Clin Res. 1990
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2092962
The anticancer effect of antineoplaston A-10 on human breast cancer serially transplanted to athymic mice. Hashimoto K, et al. Nihon Gan Chiryo Gakkai Shi. 1990
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2157780
Inhibitory effect of antineoplaston A-10 on breast cancer transplanted to athymic mice and human hepatocellular carcinoma cell lines. The members of Antineoplaston Study Group. Tsuda H, et al. Kurume Med J. 1990
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2175003
3-phenylacetylamino-2,6-piperidinedione inhibition of rat Nb2 lymphoma cell mitogenesis. Wood JC, et al. Proc Soc Exp Biol Med. 1991
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1871151
[Antineoplastons–structure, chemical properties and mechanism of activity]. Kochman A, et al. Postepy Hig Med Dosw. 1992. Article in Polish.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1308583
The inhibitory effect of the combination of antineoplaston A-10 injection with a small dose of cis-diamminedichloroplatinum on cell and tumor growth of human hepatocellular carcinoma. Tsuda H, et al. Jpn J Cancer Res. 1992
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1377669
‘Antineoplastons’. An unproved cancer therapy. Green S, et al. JAMA. 1992
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1583762
Inhibition of estrogen stimulated mitogenesis by 3-phenylacetylamino-2,6-piperidinedione and its para-hydroxy analog. Copland JA, et al. J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol. 1993
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8217876
The influence of antineoplaston A5 on the central dopaminergic structures. Juszkiewicz M, et al. Drugs Exp Clin Res. 1994
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7813388
Antiestrogenic piperidinediones designed prospectively using computer graphics and energy calculations of DNA-ligand complexes. Hendry LB, et al. J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol. 1994
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8180110
Synthesis of Mannich bases of antineoplaston A10 and their antitumor activity. Choi BG, et al. Arch Pharm Res. 1994
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10319160
The effect of Antineoplaston, a new antitumor agent on malignant brain tumors. Sugita Y, et al. Kurume Med J. 1995
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7474850
Cellular accumulation of antineoplaston AS21 in human hepatoma cells. Sołtysiak-Pawłuczuk D, et al. Cancer Lett. 1995
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7850766
The influence of antineoplaston A5 on particular subtypes of central dopaminergic receptors. Juszkiewicz M, et al. Drugs Exp Clin Res. 1995
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8529528
Toxicological study on antineoplastons A-10 and AS2-1 in cancer patients. Tsuda H, et al. Kurume Med J. 1995
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8667595
Inhibitory effect of antineoplaston A10 and AS2-1 on human hepatocellular carcinoma. Tsuda H, et al. Kurume Med J. 1996
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8755117
3-[(Phenylacetyl)amino]-2,6-piperidinedione hydrolysis studies with improved synthesis and characterization of hydrolysates. Revelle LK, et al. J Pharm Sci. 1996
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8897269
Enantioseparation of 3-phenylacetylamino-2,6-piperidinedione and related chiral compounds. Tang Y, et al. J Chromatogr A. 1996
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8962498
Lessons from antineoplaston. No authors listed. Lancet. 1997
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9091754
Lessons from antineoplaston. Silver H, et al. Lancet. 1997
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9164346
Lessons from antineoplaston. Baldwin of Bewdley, et al. Lancet. 1997
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9164347
Lessons from antineoplaston. Fahner JB, et al. Lancet. 1997
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9164348
Lessons from antineoplaston. Tweddle S, et al. Lancet. 1997
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9164349
Antineoplaston AS2-1 for maintenance therapy in liver cancer. Tsuda H, et al. Oncol Rep. 1997
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21590224
Quick response of advanced cancer to chemoradiation therapy with antineoplastons. Tsuda H, et al. Oncol Rep. 1998
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9538158
[Assessment of early treatment results with antineoplaston AS2-1 in subacute sclerosing panencephalitis]. Sobczyk W, et al. Neurol Neurochir Pol. 1997. Article in Polish.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9591301
Antineoplaston treatment for advanced hepatocellular carcinoma. Kumabe T, et al. Oncol Rep. 1998
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9769368
Synthesis of antineoplaston A10 analogs as potential antitumor agents. Choi BG, et al. Arch Pharm Res. 1998
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9875424
Phase II study of antineoplastons A10 (NSC 648539) and AS2-1 (NSC 620261) in patients with recurrent glioma. Buckner JC, et al. Mayo Clin Proc. 1999
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10069350
[The evaluation of the use of antineoplaston AS2-1 treatment in subacute sclerosing panencephalitis]. Sobczyk W, et al. Neurol Neurochir Pol. 1999. Article in Polish.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10612094

Non-SRB Antineoplaston 2000-2009 (in date order)
Potential utility of antineoplaston A-10 levels in breast cancer. Badria F, et al. Cancer Lett. 2000
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10814881
Immune modulatory potentials of antineoplaston A-10 in breast cancer patients. Badria F, et al. Cancer Lett. 2000
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10893443
Pharmacologic and biologic therapies in cancer care. Decker GM, et al. Clin J Oncol Nurs. 2000
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11111459
Novel piperidinedione analogs as inhibitors of breast cancer cell growth. Abou-Zeid LA, et al. Arch Pharm (Weinheim). 2000
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11199474
Synthesis, spectroscopic characterization, stability assessment and DNA-binding of new 2,6-piperidinedione derivatives. Abou-Zeid L, et al. Farmaco. 2001
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11718269
A novel strategy for remission induction and maintenance in cancer therapy. Tsuda H, et al. Oncol Rep. 2002
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11748457
The preventive effect of antineoplaston AS2-1 on HCC recurrence. Tsuda H, et al. Oncol Rep. 2003
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12579278
Long-term survival following treatment with antineoplastons for colon cancer with unresectable multiple liver metastases: report of a case. Ogata Y, et al. Surg Today. 2003
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12768372
[Anti-proliferative effects of biochemical defense modifier antineoplaston in colorectal carcinoma]. Ogata Y, et al. Nihon Rinsho. 2003. Article in Japanese.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/14574945
Managing social conflict in complementary and alternative medicine research: the case of antineoplastons. Hammer MR, et al. Integr Cancer Ther. 2004
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15035877
Effects of antineoplaston AS2-1 against post-operative lung metastasis in orthotopically implanted colon cancer in nude rat. Matono K, et al. Oncol Rep. 2005
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15706406
[The regulatory action of dipeptide “Deglutam” on the glutamine metabolized enzymes in the carcinosarcoma SM-1 cells]. No authors listed. Biomed Khim. 2005. Article in Russian.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15850218
Antineoplaston induces G(1) arrest by PKCalpha and MAPK pathway in SKBR-3 breast cancer cells. Fujii T, et al. Oncol Rep. 2005
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16012735
Induction of apoptosis in human hepatocellular carcinoma cells by synthetic antineoplaston A10. Qu XJ, et al. Anticancer Res. 2007
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17695534
Preclinical studies of molecular-targeting diagnostic and therapeutic strategies against breast cancer. Fujii T, et al. Breast Cancer. 2008
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18224398
Precise engineering of targeted nanoparticles by using self-assembled biointegrated block copolymers. Gu F, et al. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2008
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18272481
Novel aminopeptidase N inhibitors derived from antineoplaston AS2-5 (Part I). Li X, et al. Bioorg Med Chem. 2009
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19329328
Novel aminopeptidase N inhibitors derived from antineoplaston AS2-5 (Part II). Li X, et al. Bioorg Med Chem. 2009
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19339187

@flip

Thanks – so it’s clear to me that if the IRB is corrupt, then the studies have very little chance of being done properly?

It’s not a surety, but it definitely ups the likelihood. Remember, the IRB is there to ensure that subjects are protected. They have the authority to shut down a study if the investigator and/or anyone else on the study is screwing up. If the IRB is not doing their job properly, then the risk to subjects goes up as the potential for PI shenanigans goes unchallenged.

In Burzynski’s case, the IRB overseeing his research was cited on quite a number of violations:

1) They did not ensure that risks were minimized and reasonable compared to anticipated benefits/knowledge to be gained.
2) They did not have written procedures for initial/continuing review of research involving a medical device. (Apparently, at least one study involved medical devices.)
3) They did not ensure that informed consent would be sought or documented.
4) They had voting IRB members who were directly involved in the research being reviewed (Carlton F. Hazlewood, the IRB’s chair, is an investigator on one study and advisor on the DSMB. Another IRB member was a coinvestigator of another study.)
5) They did not conduct continuing reviews for a couple studies, instead having only verbal conversations with the PI.
6) They did not keep complete copies of all study-related documents (protocols, consent forms, etc.).
7) They did not keep minutes of their meetings, recording who attended, who voted, basis for changes/disapproval, or discussion summaries of controverted issues and how they were resolved.
8) They allowed non-IRB members to vote in place of individuals who had conflicts of interest.

These violations were all documented in a letter to the IRB dated October 5, 2009. No close-out letter is recorded, meaning that either FDA just didn’t post it, or the deficiencies listed in the warning letter have not yet been corrected or any corrective actions have not yet been verified by FDA inspectors.

@DJT

You said, emphasis added:

And we can ask why there’s been so much research and patents issued re Antineoplastons

You do realize that a patent being issued has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not something actually works, right? All it means is that someone really wanted to protect the invention or method from other people trying to do something with it without first getting permission. That’s all a patent does.

@DJT: Until you can prove to us ONE of those many copy/pasta links shows that antineoplastins are: 1)nontoxic (the only real study I know about them closed early due to toxicity) 2)effective at safe levels (not found) 3)safer and more effective than current treatments (not proven) then all you are doing is spamming.

Chris asked you many comments ago for ONE clinical study that showed antineoplastins were as or more effective than the fast-tracked chemotherapy drug. You haven’t answered that. Why not? And no, it’s NOT our job to find the study. You made the claim, you provide the proof. That’s how it goes (AKA: CITATION NEEDED).

Otherwise, we’ll just assume you are trolling. We aren’t as vicious to chew toys as they are on Pharyngula, but we do have fun with them.

Oh, and I should have added – please show you also know the difference between in-vitro and in-vivo studies….

@Didymus

Oh holy hell Batman, no wonder your comments ended up being delayed… Try fewer links next time.

@Todd W

It’s not a surety, but it definitely ups the likelihood.

Of course – with lax oversight there’s more opportunity to screw up, with more oversight there’s more opportunity to fix the screw ups.

But if the IRB in this case isn’t paying attention to the ‘no results for 30 years’ thing, then shutting down the study isn’t very likely is it?

Remember, the IRB is there to ensure that subjects are protected.

And in this case, it’s not doing much of anything to protect them from fee-gouging or from paying to be in clinical trials.

In Burzynski’s case, the IRB overseeing his research was cited on quite a number of violations:

So basically if the IRB isn’t doing their job properly, all they get is a letter? (Presumably law cases come after numerous letters) So the FDA/etc are really quite toothless in this whole case…

Yes, I did go the the clinic’s website and noted taht it didn’t include the pubmed links; as you recall I suggested puled up the links from pubmed and appended them to the titles before posting them here, without actually investigating the articles further. That’s the only way I can imagine you’d offer these articles, which represent review articles, poster abstracts and opinion pieces and don’t present any clinical study results, in response to Chris’ question “Tell me the title, date and journal of the PubMed indexed paper where the results of those clinical are published.”

Please explain to me how & when it became my responsibility to state an opinion re the efficacy of Antineoplastons (not Antineoplastins).

You’ve voluntarily expressed an opinion regarding antineoplastons, by arguing we should cese criticizing Burzynski’s clinic and simply wait and see. Surely that isn’t what you’d advise if you did not beleive they were potentially a safe and efficacious treatment for the advanced cancers his patients present?

By the way, which do you think he is– fraud, who is witholding publishing the results of his clinical trials because they provide evidence of antineoplastons efficacy, or a monster who’s witholding publication to maintain a very lucrative monopoly, thereby denying thousands of cancer victims access to the cure?

@flip

Not sure what action has been taken to follow-up on that letter. I’d need to file a FOIA request. If the deficiencies are not resolved, the IRB’s registration or assurance could be revoked, meaning that they would not be able to review/approve any research that falls under the Common Rule. That would mean that any research he conducts that is approved by that IRB would not be able to be used for approval by FDA, nor would he be able to get any funding support from any agency that falls under the Common Rule.

Minor correction to my last comment. FDA has its own set of IRB requirements separate from the Common Rule. Some differences are noted here.

The FDA can disqualify an IRB for failure to comply with regulations. If that happens, then:

(d) The Food and Drug Administration will not approve an application for a research permit for a clinical investigation that is to be under the review of a disqualified IRB or that is to be conducted at a disqualified institution, and it may refuse to consider in support of a marketing permit the data from a clinical investigation that was reviewed by a disqualified IRB as conducted at a disqualified institution, unless the IRB or the parent institution is reinstated as provided in 56.123.

I was unable to find his IRB listed as registered, which may partially explain why he’s not pursuing FDA approval. Again, though, some info may not be available online, in which case a FOIA request to find out the details would be a better way to go.

Didymus Judas Thomas. how come you did not provide the one paper showing the clinical trial results that show Burzynski’s treatment is as effective as Gleevec, with direct quotes from the paper about the effectiveness?

Seriously how does a paper with a title like (going up to check the Gallop Gish) “Synthesis, spectroscopic characterization, stability assessment and DNA-binding of new 2,6-piperidinedione derivatives” in any the results of any clinical trial? How is one case report as in “Long-term survival following treatment with antineoplastons for colon cancer with unresectable multiple liver metastases: report of a case.” about a full clinical trial?

Come on, just one paper with a direct quote showing effectiveness equivalent to Gleevec for its particular type of cancer. If you do not answer as the question is asked, then we know that there are none.

Also, Didymus Judas Thomas, you have failed to answer why the Phase 3 clinical trial has no participants.

Didy wrote:

Don’t take my word for it, read what the National Cancer Institute at the National Institutes of Health:
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/antineoplastons/patient/page2
and American Cancer Society says:
http://m.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/complementaryandalternativemedicine/pharmacologicalandbiologicaltreatment/antineoplaston-therapy

I guess Didy didn’t bother to read those information sheets either, as they both conclude that there is no evidence that Stan’s antineoplastons have any postive effect. Just because these two cancer organizations provide an information page about ANP on their websites does not mean they endorse, recommend or support this form of unproven, untested “treatment.” The information sheets are merely provided for the benefit of anyone doing research into all the cancer treatments being offered, the good, the bad, and the useless. They appear to me to be more of a warning AGAINST Stan’s little shop of horrors than an endorsement.

And we can ask why there’s been so much research and patents issued re Antineoplastons

Given that you plainly didn’t understand the papers you posted the first time around and apparently don’t grasp why that’s important, I suppose it would have been a bit much to expect the ability to extract information from journal titles or author lists, either.

Here’s a hint: When you see three identically titled Lancet articles in a row, they’re not original work. Moreover, “Baldwin of Bewdley” as author should really be a flag. However, I think it’s equally hilarious that you disgorged this one as an example of extramural antineoplaston “research.”

Marc Stephens Is Insane:

I guess Didy didn’t bother to read those information sheets either,

Which is precisely why I want him to provide direct quotes from the one paper that shows clinical trial results are as effective as Gleevec for the cancer the paper is about.

He seems to have trouble understanding the question, and understanding that the titles on the Gish Gallop he posted are not results of full clinical trials.

Narad:

Here’s a hint: When you see three identically titled Lancet articles in a row, they’re not original work. Moreover, “Baldwin of Bewdley” as author should really be a flag.

He never checked them, they are comments on an article, most likely not in support of Burzynski. Actually, he is having trouble with vocabulary, especially the concept of the “one.” One, as in a number between zero and two.

Internet search of Antineoplaston Patent US6013278 displays SRB’s patent. Patent search of US Patent & Trademark Office site re 6013278 displays SRB’s patent, patent search on “Antineoplastons” displayed 33 patents, on “Antineoplaston” displayed 573 patents, & trademark search on “Antineoplaston” displays SRB’s trademark.
Antineoplaston (Dr Samid): ralphmoss . com / html / burz9 . shtml
Internet search of “ResearchproposalfromDrSamid.pdf” will display link for [PDF] “uniformed services university of the health sciences” Samid’s letter re Antineoplaston.
Internet search of patent “0725635” displays patent re Antineoplaston (Samid-GOVT OF USA as represented by the SCTY OF DEPT OF HHS), the 11 patents SRB contends the US issued to duplicate his patent.
Orac writes: “[D]espite all of the attempts of Dr. Burzynski and supporters to portray them otherwise antineoplastons are chemotherapy…” What’s your point? Internet search on “Antineoplastons” “a form of chemotherapy” displays a google 2006 books link re “Get Healthy Now” (pg. 575) where SRB indicates that Antineoplastons are a form of chemotherapy.
Now to respond to comments! 🙂

Didy,

Read our lips: patents mean nothing. Anyone can patent anything, if they thought of it first (except for a perpetual motion machine–they are “unpatentable.”) The patent office doesn’t give a crap if anything works or not.

And a Ralph Moss reference? Sheesh. What’s next? Whale.to? Mike Adams? Mercola?

Didy,

What’s your motivation behind all this effort to prove something that is unproveable? Do you really think any of us will change our minds based on the links you copy-paste?
Do you work for Burzynski? How much is he paying you to post your comments?

(I love the “reverse Pharma-shill gambit”…)

What’s your point? Internet search on “Antineoplastons” “a form of chemotherapy” displays a google 2006 books link re “Get Healthy Now” (pg. 575) where SRB indicates that Antineoplastons are a form of chemotherapy.

Perhaps you’d like to take a look at the posts of Mr. Saunders, the parent of a Burzynski patient, who was clearly misled into believing that antineoplastins are not chemotherapy. That’s the point.

One of the hallmarks of everything pro-Burzynski is that “he doesn’t use chemotherapy.” I’ve seen that mantra repeated dozens of times from supporters. It’s the single biggest selling point he uses to recruit customers. And he misleads people into thinking there will be no side effects either, while the side effects themselves are often life threatening.

Perusing DJT’s citation gishgallop I notice that the number of citations about antineoplastons has been steadily declining, suggesting a steady decrease in interest.
1986-1989 13 citations = 4.3 per year
1990-1999 32 citations = 3.2 per year
2000-2009 18 citations = 1.8 per year
A further check myself also reveals:
2010-2012 1 citation = 0.3 per year
A close examination also reveals there is literally nothing of any substance in there. These are nearly all preclinical, in vitro, or animal studies with a few case reports, a few small uncontrolled studies of patients often also receiving standard treatment, some of unknown status (in Polish for example) and (as Narad noted) one social science study on how one of Burzynski’s trials ended up a complete shambles. Smoke and mirrors.

Internet search on “Antineoplastons” “a form of chemotherapy” displays a google 2006 books link re “Get Healthy Now” (pg. 575) where SRB indicates that Antineoplastons are a form of chemotherapy.

Do we need to go back to the promo copy for the movie?

Antineoplastons are responsible for curing some of the most incurable forms of terminal cancer. Various cancer survivors are presented in the film who chose these medicines instead of surgery, chemotherapy or radiation – with full disclosure of medical records to support their diagnosis and recovery – as well as systematic (non-anecdotal) FDA-supervised clinical trial data comparing Antineoplastons to other available treatments—which is published within the peer-reviewed medical literature.

BTW, how’re you coming along on that doubling-of-the-NIH-budget bit?

@Didymus – #1 – the point is Dr. B & his supporters are specifically telling people that his treatment is not Chemo – which is a lie.

#2 – Where are the “PUBLISHED” clinical results that show that Dr. B’s treatment is effective vs. conventional cancer treatments?

@Narad – yeah, because I know a lot of researchers that would be very interested to find out that their budgets had, instead of being steadily reduced, were in fact doubled…..

Direct question, DJT: to the best of your knowledge has Burzynski ever published results from a completed Phase II trial of antineoplastons which demonstrates their safety and eficacy at treating advanced cancers?

If so, where?

Hey, who am I?

I will be happy to accept your apology.

Don’t forget the magic word, Peaches.

There are some (typical) unbelievable fan comments about Burzynski on the Healthy Home Economist link Orac provided above. In addition to plugs for Simoncini and Cantron, most comments are a response to this first comment from an unhappy former Burzynski patient:

I have experienced this treatment and this case is not the “persecution” you claim. This treatment is NOT harmless! It can be deadly itself. They don’t mention that when you show up. It was $20,000 upfront for the first few days of treatment. How is this not monopolizing?? Like chemo, it makes the patient sick and unable to function normally. It requires a complete overhaul of your life(and diet) and the lives of those around you. Not to mention the antineoplastons WREAK!! I cannot even describe the awful smell that you are subjected to all day, every day. It permeates the house, everything, and everyone it touches. While I’m sure the treatment works for some, so does just a dietary change, so does doing nothing, so does a placebo. The FDA approval doesn’t mean anything. If there’s enough money, the FDA has approved many drugs that are then found to be deadly. In our experience, every patient that we met while there was dead within 2 months of returning home.
I do agree that every patient should have the right to choose their treatment. However, there is a lot of info missing about this particular case and this clinic. The government may not be as unfounded in their case as you are leading people to believe.

There is a follow-up comment about how they never even got to meet Burzynski, etc.

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/case-dismissed-alternative-cancer-treatment-wins-big/#more-10776

The website is full of other Mike-Adams-style panic stories about ther perils of wireless baby monitors, Pop-Tarts, and other woo.

Didymus Judas Thomas:

Now to respond to comments!

Since you changed to Gish Galloping with patents, I can assume there are no papers showing results from clinical trials that Burzynski’s methods are as effective as Gleevec for any cancer.

You can now apologize for wasting our time.

@Todd W

No need to follow up – I had just meant to explore the issue of IRB loopholes and oversight. It’s a side topic that I’m not informed about. Thanks for the links. I can set myself a little light reading when I have more time.

Actually, it makes me wonder about something else. Some years ago I remember havoc in the press due to a UK doctor who had been struck off there, working here in Aus. It concerns me that if Dr B gets royally trounced in the US, he’ll simply pack up and move somewhere else. I can guess that different countries might not care (ie. Mexico), but if he say, went to the UK, would he have problems developing research and/or setting up an IRB? As an example, Wakefield is not likely to attract any private or public funding anymore, but do IRBs ever decide to avoid a particular researcher? Can you shop around for IRBs? (Again, showing my ignorance of how this all works…)

@Didymus

What’s your point? Internet search on “Antineoplastons” “a form of chemotherapy” displays a google 2006 books link re “Get Healthy Now” (pg. 575) where SRB indicates that Antineoplastons are a form of chemotherapy.

Well sure, because books and patents are exactly the same as results from double blind placebo trials in a peer-reviewed journal. *rolls eyes

@MSII

While I’m sure the treatment works for some, so does just a dietary change, so does doing nothing, so does a placebo. The FDA approval doesn’t mean anything.

That worries me – they went to him, presumably to treat life threatening cancer, but dietary changes fixed it? Something doesn’t smell right. (And it’s not the antineoplastons)

@flip

Can you shop around for IRBs?

Short answer, yes, but you’re supposed to be open.

Most research centers will have an IRB of their own. However, there are some for-profit IRBs, which carry with them a host of niggly little ethics issues. Sponsors/investigators are supposed to record all IRB interactions, which would include one IRB saying “No way”. This info is supposed to be shared with FDA (if going for approval of a new product or indication) or, if they then shop for another IRB, the new IRB.

Even with not-for-profit IRBs, there are two varieties: institutional IRBs (e.g., large universities or academic hospitals will have their own local IRB) and independent IRBs. Both have their potential problems: independent IRBs open the potential for “IRB shopping”. You can find a number of articles online about this concern, such as when one IRB disapproves a study and the PI or sponsor looks for one that will approve it. Institutional IRBs remove that risk, but they can create a sort of monopoly on what research gets approved and what doesn’t.

DJT Dow Jones Transportation ( average)

Oh, I wasn’t kidding. There was what seemed to be an active “let’s try to put on a pump-and-dump” scene centered around BZYR for a while. I just happened to note that some of DJT’s poorly demarcated quote-barfs also (indeed, exclusively) appeared a while ago in association with PPHM. The former apparently no longer has a market maker and is off the OTCBB.

@Narad

Who knew that Byrzinski Research Institute was a publicly traded company (though I might have known this and forgotten it) with current stocks at $0.10 a share. Interesting find! Wonder what the SEC filings would reveal…

Wonder what the SEC filings would reveal…

Oh, you know, the usual.

The Company has not generated any significant operating revenue since its inception. The Company’s sole source of funding for its operations has been and continues to be payments made by Dr. Burzynski from funds generated from Dr. Burzynski’s medical practice pursuant to various arrangements between the Company and Dr. Burzynski.

@Todd W

Can you shop around for IRBs?

Short answer, yes, but you’re supposed to be open.

Ok, thanks. So if shutting down Burzyinski is also about going after the IRB, then the regulatory bodies need also to make sure he doesn’t just grab his 5 next closest buddies and offer them positions on a new one….

But without an IRB at all, he can’t do much of anything in terms of marketing the clinic/treatments. …?

Interesting find! Wonder what the SEC filings would reveal…

Do I recall a 21st Floor post about that? I can’t get the search to work there and I don’t have it bookmarked.

Carigen, the Cayman Islands entity, incidentally, is wholly owned and controlled by Burzynski.

@flip

So if shutting down Burzyinski is also about going after the IRB, then the regulatory bodies need also to make sure he doesn’t just grab his 5 next closest buddies and offer them positions on a new one….

But without an IRB at all, he can’t do much of anything in terms of marketing the clinic/treatments. …?

He could try to set up another IRB under a different name, but he may have trouble with that. Might get more scrutiny due to past concerns about how he’s operating.

But, yes, without an IRB, he would not be able to get his antineoplastons approved for marketing, which means he could not advertise it for the treatment of any disease or condition. Also, all use of it would have to be within the confines of a clinical trial.

So can we assume that the brave maverick has seen the writing on the wall for his particular brand of thievery and is preparing to bolt for countries more amenable to con-men and fraudsters?

I do hope he gets nailed before he flees.

So can we assume that the brave maverick has seen the writing on the wall for his particular brand of thievery and is preparing to bolt for countries more amenable to con-men and fraudsters?

Looks more like a Colonel Sanders–type of setup that they’re after. The target countries (Bahrain, Dubai, South Korea, Indonesia, Malaysia, Qatar, Singapore, and Thailand) are something of a mixed bag.

Am I correct in guessing that Worldwide Medical Consultants, Inc — the other entity mentioned in that licensing deal between Burzynski’s various fronts — is itself another Burzynski money-laundering front? It appears to have existed since 1998, without ever dealing with anything other than Burzynski Research Institute and the Carigen tax-avoidance entity.

Am I correct in guessing that Worldwide Medical Consultants, Inc — the other entity mentioned in that licensing deal between Burzynski’s various fronts — is itself another Burzynski money-laundering front?

This is difficult to say, given New Jersey’s system of providing public records. What it’s been doing for the past 14 years is certainly interesting. Still, if one entertains notions of Al Capone (I’ve really gotten the “bang bang” line in a taxi in Spain), I think one would really like to see how much revenue flux there is in a four-doctor clinic that seems to specialize in paternity testing.

But, yes, without an IRB, he would not be able to get his antineoplastons approved for marketing, which means he could not advertise it for the treatment of any disease or condition. Also, all use of it would have to be within the confines of a clinical trial.

Let’s not forget how easy it was for the Geiers to pull this off with their own hand-picked IRB and no clinical trial registration. This went on for years and I don’t recall their completely unethical IRB even being a point of charges against them. Although their malfeasance is so vast that I could be wrong on that.

MarkL, why should I try to find the RESULTS?

herr doktor bimler, “bullsh1t?” Wow! I wonder how many people will now follow your lead & use profanity because “the doktor did it!” I am so glad you used the “1” in it so as not to offend as much. :-O

AdamG, you have not yet advised me what solar system you are living in. So, you think it’s from 2012 but the link has 2011 in it. My research shows that that link was linked to another site as far back as 11/5/06, which as Narad pointed out, means that it likely applies to 1998-2003.

Todd W., No, “abracadabra” is Steve Miller’s “magic word” when he sings “Abra Abra Cadabra, I want to reach out & grab ya.”

flip, what’s your point? You write that “[p]atients do not pay anything, before, during or after a clinical trial.” Below are some sources which do not agree with you:
http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/info/understand?file=resources.html&amp%3bJServSessionIdcs_current=amq3u42ht9

http://www.cancer.gov/clinicaltrials/learningabout/payingfor

http://health.usnews.com/health-conditions/cancer/information-on-clinical-trials
Narad, I am amazed at your mastery of the English language! “[A]sshurt,” “sh*tty,” & “f*cking!!” The “*” sign really differentiates you from petulant “yoots.” However, I will not stoop to your level & ASSUME what your mental or emotional state is, because the “FACT” is that I do not know yours & you do not know mine, but I do know that you make an ASS out of U & ME when you ASSUME.

Peebs, nice try, but DJT refers to “Doubting Thomas.”
I think we should call Peebs “Peeps.” Do you “see” what I did there?

Denice Walter, you are so politically incorrect.

Narad, Dead Wood.

Chris, please point out where I stated that the PubMeds were “results” & cite which law or regulation requires the information you are requesting. Feel free to look up the contact for the Phase 3 clinical trial & e-mail or call them since you have so much time on your hands.

Science Mom, if you want to decide treatment based on a movie, that’s fine with me! Venture Capitalists are great if you want to turn over some of your decision-making power to the people with the money. Just think, instead of wasting $60+ million trying to go after SRB the gub-ment could have given the $ to NIH to fund clinical trials! You did know that earlier this year it was reported that some NIH funded trials were not being published up to more than 2 1/2 years after completion, right?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120103211056.htm
herr doktor bimler, read it as whatever you want to read it as, or you can go on the clinical trials site & look up the e-mail & phone # & use one of those resources to contact SRB & ask, or go on one of the SRB sites & look up the Public Relations/Media contact & contact them, or you can take the below video comments at face value that a new documentary is to be released re SRB in 2012, and watch it when it comes out to see if it answers your questions:
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=jRua3NLg-Z8&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DjRua3NLg-Z
Antaeus Feldspar, your absurd conclusion is that you would rather spend more time & energy re SRB who you have not provided any information as to how much he has been fined, rather than Big Pharma who has been fined $13 BILLION in the past 4 years. The difference is that Big Pharma has violated laws significantly more than SRB.

Science Mom, see above for your “shiny object!” 😉

Lawrence, when Orac whined that SRB “got off on a technicallity,” did you ask him to offer a “real retort” like SRB did not “get off on a technicallity,” but he got off because the law is the law?

Todd W., yes, this is why the HHS filed 11 patents based on Antineoplastons.

M. Dawn, I am under no requirement to prove or not prove anything to you. I made what claim? As far as I’m concerned, based on your theory of thinking, your post is spam & trolling since it proves nothing.
Oh, and I should have added that I am under no requirement to show you anything.

A response to the father of a Burzynski patient – Respectful Insolence, SRB did not “slither away from justice again,” but like Orac, he did have good legal advice.

JGC, please cite where I argued that you “should cese (sic) criticizing Burzynski’s clinic and simply wait and see.” Should we assign any blame to NIH which was running a clinical trial re Antineoplaston & didn’t complete the trial but published the results of the incomplete trial?

Chris, why have you not apologized for misstating my argument?

Shay, from what I can tell, alot of this lot doesn’t question the “FACTS.”

Also, Chris, you have failed to say “Please.”

Marc Stephens Is Insane, you’re insane in the membrane because you have no verifiable “FACTS” that I did NOT read both articles.

Narad, you really are clueless, aren’t you? How would I have been able to provide the links if I did not actually access the actual page(s) with the information I linked to? Here’s a hint: you can search “Baldwin of Bewdley” on the internet like I did & see that this is the actual Title of a person. To me, “this one” is research

Marc Stephens Is Insane, did you access the link(s) & information & actually read what it’s about? What’s your motivation for not giving any indication that you’ve read the information available re the last 4 points of the post? What am I trying to prove that’s unproveable? What was Orac’s motivation for writing his comments on:
12/5/11 “[D]espite all of the attempts of Dr. Burzynski and supporters to portray them otherwise antineoplastons are chemotherapy…” &
12/12/11 “Why do his supporters (and, let’s be honest, Dr. Burzynski himself) portray his therapy as “nontoxic” and “not chemotherapy…” &
1/20/12 “…contrary to Dr. Burzynski’s claim that he doesn’t use chemotherapy…”
though my post indicates this is not the case since at least the book 11/1/2006. If SRB indicates one thing in a book, something else in a movie, and something else elsewhere, then people should fact-check it. Maybe some people should post less & fact-check more.
My motivation is that if I am expected to believe that the information on this blog is “FACTUAL,” then the people on this blog shouldn’t take everything Orac posts as “FACT” without fact checking it. Orac should be held to the same standard he is holding SRB to. If Orac wants to be believable then he needs to be less vitrolic & more factual. I can not force anyone to believe anything if they are not open-minded enough to believe. No I do not work for SRB. I am not being paid to post comments. Those are rediculous questions unless you have asked Orac if he works for Big Pharma & is being paid by them to post comments.

AdamG, I didn’t see you raise that issue on that blog, but I did. That’s my point.

Marc Stephens Is Insane, if SRB is indeed making claims that are not backed up by “FACTS,” then his feet need to be held to the fire like anyone else’s.

Kreblozen, it would be interesting to find out what the final result are of the research re the trial that ended up in complete shambles.

Narad, they can’t have it both ways. See my above previous reply to you re NIH. With all the fact-checking of people’s posts it takes time for me to reply because some people are making comments that are questionable when it comes to their “FACTS.” :-O

Lawrence: #1 – question the conflicting information. #2 – Why are you asking me? Find the law or regulation that requires it, contact their Public Relations/Media contacts like Orac has done, and post the results. Everyone on here should have the ability to find information on the internet.

JGC, I have not had time to address this since I’m too busy replying to everyone’s posts.

Chris, see above reply to you. How many people have posed questions to you today compared to me? Thank you for your impatience.

flip, I can see you don’t give a flip. Question conflicting information. It is the responsibility of the consumer to ask questions. That is the advice of the organizations I have posted links to today re cancer.

Am I correct in guessing that Worldwide Medical Consultants, Inc

This other document —
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/724445/000110465912047927/a12-16018_1ex10d10.htm
— inclines me to accept that Worldwide Medical Consultants, Inc are separate from Burzynski.

I have no idea whether the Delaware-incorporated Worldwide Medical Consultants is connected to the Florida-based Worldwide Medical Consultants that existed previously to 1998. There is some back-story.

Evidently WMC have convinced Burzynski that they can offer “substantial contacts, knowledge and experience in educating medical and health professionals and the public in the Covered Territories” (i.e. they know whose palms to grease), for the purpose of setting up the chain of Burzynski Clinics catering to the needs of a newly-affluent middle class. There is no doubt some reason why the deal calls for WMC to receive payments for their consultancy from the Cayman Island company and then pay %10 of that into Burzynski’s home account.

And we can ask why there’s been so much research and patents issued re Antineoplastons:

It’s an article of faith within the Burzynski support network that the US Gubblement has been using its dictatorial powers to deny the brave embattled researcher of his patents and of the recognition he deserves, so DJT has done everyone a favour by exposing this story as a load of cobblers.

And we can ask why there’s been so much research and patents issued re Antineoplastons penis and breast enlargement:

I strongly recommend the latest Oh No Ross and Carrie podcast on these subjects.

@Todd W

He could try to set up another IRB under a different name, but he may have trouble with that. Might get more scrutiny due to past concerns about how he’s operating.

But, yes, without an IRB, he would not be able to get his antineoplastons approved for marketing, which means he could not advertise it for the treatment of any disease or condition. Also, all use of it would have to be within the confines of a clinical trial.

@Science Mom

Let’s not forget how easy it was for the Geiers to pull this off with their own hand-picked IRB and no clinical trial registration. This went on for years and I don’t recall their completely unethical IRB even being a point of charges against them. Although their malfeasance is so vast that I could be wrong on that.

Thank you both. That helps clarify things for me, and put into context the problems of regulation.

Didymus Judas Thomas:

MarkL, why should I try to find the RESULTS?

Simple, you are making a claim, therefore you must provide the evidence. So if you wish to prove that Burzynski is not profited from desperate cancer patients with false hope, you must prove his methods work as well as another treatment that does, Gleevec.

Chris, please point out where I stated that the PubMeds were “results” & cite which law or regulation requires the information you are requesting. Feel free to look up the contact for the Phase 3 clinical trial & e-mail or call them since you have so much time on your hands.

Again, if you wish to show Burzynski is not a quack, you must prove it.

Shay, from what I can tell, alot of this lot doesn’t question the “FACTS.”

Also, Chris, you have failed to say “Please.”

Actually I did, to both.

Now you must either answer the questions that show Burzynski is legit, or apologize for wasting our time.

Chris, see above reply to you. How many people have posed questions to you today compared to me? Thank you for your impatienc

Unlike you, when I make a statement I already have the evidence at hand, which I provide for as I make the statement. And as of last night, I answered many questions. Mostly from my daughter on how best to make an outfit she is designing. I also answered why my laptop was acting weird (cookies not being recognized, being told security certificates were expired): after it crashed it reset its time and date to be 2083 and everything was 70 years out of date.

Now, be a good boy and stop whining, just answer our questions.

MSII, you should see how annoying it is when your computer flies to the future.

Ugh, curses. There was no preview and I missed closing a tag. Try again:

Chris, please point out where I stated that the PubMeds were “results” & cite which law or regulation requires the information you are requesting. Feel free to look up the contact for the Phase 3 clinical trial & e-mail or call them since you have so much time on your hands.

Again, if you wish to show Burzynski is not a quack, you must prove it.

Shay, from what I can tell, alot of this lot doesn’t question the “FACTS.”

Also, Chris, you have failed to say “Please.”

Actually I did, to both.

Now you must either answer the questions that show Burzynski is legit, or apologize for wasting our time.

Chris, see above reply to you. How many people have posed questions to you today compared to me? Thank you for your impatience

Unlike you, when I make a statement I already have the evidence at hand, which I provide for as I make the statement. And as of last night, I answered many questions. Mostly from my daughter on how best to make an outfit she is designing. I also answered why my laptop was acting weird (cookies not being recognized, being told security certificates were expired): after it crashed it reset its time and date to be 2083 and everything was 70 years out of date.

Now, be a good boy and stop whining, just answer our questions.

Shay, from what I can tell, a lot of this lot doesn’t question the “FACTS”

Many of this lot are scientists, researchers and medical professionals, and hey’re doing a fair job of shredding whatever you’ve managed to produce. You’ve demonstrated that you’re doing a quick copy/paste without bothering to check the articles you’re citing to see if they support your claims. I am not a researcher or medical professional, but even I can spot the “throw it at the wall and see if any of it sticks” tactics, just by actually, you know, READING a couple of your links.

But carry on. It’s fun to watch.

No I do not work for SRB. I am not being paid to post comments. Those are rediculous questions unless you have asked Orac if he works for Big Pharma & is being paid by them to post comments.

Ahh, but Burzynski fans ask Orac and other science bloggers that very same question every single day. It’s called the Pharma-shill gambit. I’m glad you are admitting it is “rediculous”.

So why ARE you spending so much time defending Stan?

Do you defend other quacks like Simoncini, Gerson, John of God and Nick Gonzalez too?

Shay:

I am not a researcher or medical professional, but even I can spot the “throw it at the wall and see if any of it sticks” tactics, just by actually, you know, READING a couple of your links.

Also, the little whiny boy could not even be bothered to read the titles to his cut and pasta links! That has provided more than a few laughs.

@MSII – another Burzynski “patient” story on the same thread:

“I, too, have first-hand experience with Dr. Burzynski’s treatments. In 1996 my mom was diagnosed with two dominant cancers, ovarian and colon. She was given less than a year to live, I was her primary caretaker. My grandparents took my mom to Burzynski’s clinic in Houston after she decided to forego traditional medical treatments. Burzynski’s initially did no accept my mom as a patient but after my grandfather donated $1M dollars to Burzynski’s research program (Google Budwine & Burzynski and you’ll read about the donation and Burzynski introducing my grandfather to the president of Poland as a thank you) mom was quickly accepted into his program. She was hooked up to a 24/7 I.V. drip of the antineosplatons on her first visit as a patient. Lynn is right. The concoction is noxious. It wreaks of animal urine and the syrupy substance will eat through anything. Skin, fabric, wood. Mom lost her hair, her appetite, her memory, her personality, and she shed her skin and nails. Her skin blistered and the itching was enough to leave her begging for mercy in a cool bathtub every night. To honor her parents she persevered. After three months of treatment Burzynski declared her cancer free and mom died approximately one month later. Mom said taking the treatment was the worst decision she’s ever made. Buzynski lost all credibility with me for accepting her when he likely knew there was nothing he could do for her, treating her with such a toxic brew knowing how sick it would make her in vain, and for ever telling my mom she was cancer free. She was riddled with metastatic tumors when she died. In my humble opinion, it is a shame you have written this article without any first hand experience or reviews from patients or patient’s families. I respectfully request your update your article if possible with tales from both sides of the Buzynski story.”

Funny how $1M changed Stans mind.

jergen, and that makes it all more despicable that a whiny little boy, Didymus Judas Thomas, spends so much time trying to defend Burzynski without providing any real evidence.

Didymus Judas Thomas:
“MarkL, why should I try to find the RESULTS?”

Eh? I am puzzled, you claimed that you were not asked for results. You were. Now your answer is “Why should I?”.

Is that how you hope to “win” the debate ? By just being an obnoxious, intellectually and logically challenged halfwit?

You are out of your depth here by ANY reasonable measure, I advise you to get a responsible adult to make your decisions for you in future……. you know, like what to wear, what to eat for breakfast etc.

You are a buffoon.

Narad, I am amazed at your mastery of the English language! “[A]sshurt,” “sh*tty,” & “f*cking!!” The “*” sign really differentiates you from petulant “yoots.”

As I do not care to waste the time of our host with releasing comments from moderation for simple cursing, that’s the way it goes, pillock.

However, I will not stoop to your level & ASSUME what your mental or emotional state is, because the “FACT” is that I do not know yours & you do not know mine, but I do know that you make an ASS out of U & ME when you ASSUME.

Thanks for the profound schoolmarmishness. There’s nothing to assume. You plainly don’t understand why what you’re coughing up ranges from unimpressive to laughable.

Narad, you really are clueless, aren’t you? How would I have been able to provide the links if I did not actually access the actual page(s) with the information I linked to? Here’s a hint: you can search “Baldwin of Bewdley” on the internet like I did & see that this is the actual Title of a person.

I’m already able to recognize the style of a title in the peerage, you prat. As for accessing the “actual page(s),” no, I don’t think you went and dug up an actual article from, say, Биомедицинская химия (moreover, there’s a punchline if one does go after this one). Perhaps by “actual page(s)” you mean “PubMed entries.” However, in this case, you would have noted, for example, that the entry from Lord Baldwin doesn’t have any content there. It’s a comment on an editorial. It is this, you imbecile. And this you cite in a linksplosion of “research” that is supposed to stun people who have already observed that you can’t even make inferences about content from article titles with your towering mobile-device-based intellect?

To me, “this one” is research

Hammer & Jonas? Sure. But it’s not the sort of research that has any bearing on the point that you thought you had made. The fact of the matter is that you were too goddamned stupid to figure out that you embarrassed yourself the first time and therefore tripled down with the same routine.

Puff Didy wrote:

flip, what’s your point? You write that “[p]atients do not pay anything, before, during or after a clinical trial.” Below are some sources which do not agree with you

Of the three links Didy then provides, one makes no reference at all to payments, one mentions the patient may be expected to pay for some incidental costs and routine lab work (but not the entire cost of the trial), and one link says this:

Will you have to pay to participate in a clinical trial?

The clinical trial sponsor (whether it is the U.S. government or a company) pays for the experimental treatment, and most pay for other parts of the treatment process, such as any special testing or extra doctor visits. Some sponsors pay for travel time or travel expenses. For Medicare patients, Medicare covers the costs of procedures that patients would have even if they were not in a clinical trial (routine costs) in all government-sponsored Phase II and Phase III clinical trials. Some health insurance companies also will cover routine costs in clinical trials. You will be responsible for any costs not covered by the clinical trial sponsor or your health insurance company. Therefore, be sure to ask questions about cost before making your decision to take part in a clinical trial, especially to confirm what costs your health insurance company will cover.

Once again Didy provides links that don’t say what he thinks they say.

It’s a comment on an editorial.

I was amused by Earl Baldwin’s turn of phrase in that comment, where he worries about “peer pressure”.

yes, this is why the HHS filed 11 patents based on Antineoplastons

That reminds me:

Internet search of patent “0725635″ displays patent re Antineoplaston (Samid-GOVT OF USA as represented by the SCTY OF DEPT OF HHS), the 11 patents SRB contends the US issued to duplicate his patent.

I glazed over at this pidgin English the first time around, but that’s not a U.S. patent number. One might wonder just how much puffery is involved in the “11 patents” routine that is trotted out but seemingly never documented. Do look those up for everyone’s edification, DJT.

Antaeus Feldspar, your absurd conclusion is that you would rather spend more time & energy re SRB who you have not provided any information as to how much he has been fined, rather than Big Pharma who has been fined $13 BILLION in the past 4 years. The difference is that Big Pharma has violated laws significantly more than SRB.

Well, let’s ignore for the time being the idiocy of your still pursuing the tu quoque “you can’t say anything bad about my guru Stanwey until you’ve criticized everyone worse than he is.” Let’s also ignore the idiocy of thinking that fines are automatically proportional to wrongdoing and not being fined is therefore a sign of innocence.

Big Pharma is the term you’re using to refer collectively to, let’s see, how many multinational corporations? At least ten multinational corporations? And you’re seriously suggesting that SRB can’t come in for his fair share of criticism until he does more wrong (as measured by amount fined) than ten-plus multinational corporations?

Tell you what, Diddums: why don’t you go out and find us any one individual who was fined $13 BILLION dollars? If you can’t find one, you have two choices: you can either assert that obviously, no individual on earth can be criticized for wrongdoing because no individual matches the infamy of ten multinational corporations, or you can acknowledge what the rest of us already know, that trying to absolve one individual by comparing them to a plethora of multinational corporations is pretty damn stupid.

Chris, please point out where I stated that the PubMeds were “results” & cite which law or regulation requires the information you are requesting. Feel free to look up the contact for the Phase 3 clinical trial & e-mail or call them since you have so much time on your hands.

Nuh-uh Diddums; you made the claims, you provide the relevant citations instead of copypasta you found somewhere.

Science Mom, if you want to decide treatment based on a movie, that’s fine with me! Venture Capitalists are great if you want to turn over some of your decision-making power to the people with the money.

Dumb or dishonest? You’re the one who trotted the movie out as some kind of proof. If Burzynski is so hard pressed for cash then he’s got to turn over some autonomy. There are also other sources of venture capitalism that don’t require that though. A little harder to come by and one has to have a solid proposal so I guess that leaves Burzynski out.

He’s making money without approval; he has no intention of getting approval so enough with the boo-hoo poor Burzynski can’t fund regulatory hurdles.

Just think, instead of wasting $60+ million trying to go after SRB the gub-ment could have given the $ to NIH to fund clinical trials!

Why should the NIH fund a molecular substance which holds no promise at all? You really don’t know how this science stuff works do you.

You did know that earlier this year it was reported that some NIH funded trials were not being published up to more than 2 1/2 years after completion, right?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120103211056.htm

More Tu Quoque nonsense from dumb didy dumb dumbs.

Science Mom, see above for your “shiny object!” 😉

Not that you’d notice given how slow on the uptake you are but that isn’t something you should be boasting about and calling attention to.

DJT:
Did you watch the Burzynski movie as I did & note near the end where it showed that it would take $300 Million for the FDA III trial?

Me:
Are we to read this as a concession that Burzynski has in fact no intention of conducting a Phase-III trial

DJT:
herr doktor bimler, read it as whatever you want to read it as, or you can go on the clinical trials site & look up the e-mail & phone # & use one of those resources to contact SRB & ask, or go on one of the SRB sites & look up the Public Relations/Media contact & contact them…

Dude, I am asking you for a clarification of your comment. How in the name of $DEITY is any advice from Burzynski going to help me understand what you meant when you cited the high cost of a Phase-III trial as a justification for not performing one?

I have no idea whether the Delaware-incorporated Worldwide Medical Consultants is connected to the Florida-based Worldwide Medical Consultants that existed previously to 1998.

Worldwide Medical Consultants, Inc., does not appear to be a Delaware corporation, the SEC form notwithstanding. The New Jersey one was NJ entity 0100732390, but that name has been revoked and they owe $1015.

DJT,

Kreblozen, it would be interesting to find out what the final result are of the research re the trial that ended up in complete shambles.

I can help you there. It (PMID:10069350) only accrued 9 patients because of disagreements between Burzynski and the NCI and only 9 were eligible for the study. Here’s what Vickers had to say (PDF) about this study:

All six patients eligible for the study showed evidence of tumor progression after treatment durations of between 16 to 66 days. Neurologic side effects occurred in five patients. The mean time to treatment failure was 29 days. All nine patients died, eight of whom died due to tumor progression. Study authors concluded the study with the following statement: “The efficacy of antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 remains uncertain. We were unable to document efficacy in any of six assessable patients.”

@Didymus

flip, I can see you don’t give a flip. Question conflicting information. It is the responsibility of the consumer to ask questions. That is the advice of the organizations I have posted links to today re cancer.

And I can see you like sentences that are too all over the place to make any sense, Gish gallop and preference for assertions over evidence. Oh, and that sentence above also suggests you enjoy strawmen.

Here’s what I said to you last:

Well sure, because books and patents are exactly the same as results from double blind placebo trials in a peer-reviewed journal. *rolls eyes

If you missed my point, let me spell it out for you. Anyone can get a patent on anything. You don’t need to actually make something in order to get a patent. In fact, many items haven’t been made. Getting a patent only means you had the time, energy and money to fill out a form.

Books aren’t peer-reviewed. Here’s why they are useless as evidence.

Feel free to question conflicting information. But you might want to try raising your standards a little as to what you accept as information. For example, plenty of books and patents exist on blood letting. It doesn’t mean that that old pre-scientific technique worked though. (Most of the patents I saw on the US Patent website were for legitimate blood letting stuff – from what I could tell, things like blood collection, etc. Still my point holds true)

But why do I waste my breath? It’s clear you don’t care about that stuff, you just want us to pat you on the head and say “you’re right”. Shifting the goal posts (float like a butterfly, sting like a bee seems to be an apt way of describing your antics) and making distracting arguments is nice and all, but you still haven’t provided us with any reason why we should accept Burzyinski’s methods work: since he hasn’t even done that himself.

Also, see Marc’s reply to you about the clinical trial payments. The links you supply suggest, at best, that a patient may have to pay some side costs – ie. what you’d pay to see a doctor as part of your illness anyway – but none state that you have to pay for the research costs themselves. In other words, you wouldn’t normally be paying $300k or more for participation. The others are right, you’re not reading what you’re posting links to.

@Science Mom

He’s making money without approval; he has no intention of getting approval so enough with the boo-hoo poor Burzynski can’t fund regulatory hurdles.

More to the point, if he can afford a multi-million dollar home, he can afford to put it up for sale to pay for a proper trial.

flip, let’s not exaggerate (or post without understanding):

If you missed my point, let me spell it out for you. Anyone can get a patent on anything. You don’t need to actually make something in order to get a patent. In fact, many items haven’t been made. Getting a patent only means you had the time, energy and money to fill out a form.

2nd sentence – semi-true. 3rd sentence – true. 4th sentence – true. 5th sentence – very untrue.

I don’t feel the need to clarify. It’s obvious (for those of us who have patented stuff).
Btw, I don’t feel most of you are able to carry a civilized and respectful discussion without personally insulting your opposition, so please don’t try to involve me in anything. Just couldn’t resist this time after seeing over and over how people try to make their points by using fake arguments..

float like a butterfly, sting like a bee seems to be an apt way of describing your antics

Please, let’s not sully Ali here. DJT is more along the lines of Reggie Strickland.

Just think, instead of wasting $60+ million trying to go after SRB the gub-ment could have given the $ to NIH to fund clinical trials!

$60 million? Whose ass did you pull that number out of?

@Narad

Oh, that a-hole – didn’t he show up in the comments here a while ago?

I think “float like bee, sting like a butterfly” for doesn’t know diddly.

@Narad

Please, let’s not sully Ali here. DJT is more along the lines of Reggie Strickland.

Forgive me, sports is not in my vein of interest. It was the first thing that popped into my mind. DJT’s writing style has a feel of hopping from one foot to another trying not to get caught.

Very confused as to what exactly DJT is trying to prove, since everything he’s posted has been proven incorrect….

Get ready Burzynski “FANS!!!”
Burzynski: Cancer Is Serious Business Part II
Coming Early 2013 (Trailer time: 5:09)
http://www.burzynskimovie.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=135:chapter-2-2013&catid=39:short-news-updates-front-page-phot
Statement by David Kessler, FDA Commissioner, The White House, C-SPAN, re Antineoplastons.
Statements from SRB, individuals, medical professionals,
FOX 26 News, Dr. Masakazu Sawanobori, Tokyo, Japan.
http://www.biomedexperts.com/Profile.bme/1249742/Masakazu_Sawanobori
Book by Sawanobori including information about him:
http://en.d21.co.jp/books/vitamin-c-as-effective-cancer-treatment

Thats it DJT?

Your position of last resort is to just to be a blatant troll? I knew you were thick, but I hadn’t guessed quite how thick!

@DJT – so if Dr. B ready to reveal the results of his 30 years of “clinical trials?”

Ah, I see now. DJT is just a promoter for a new ‘movie’.

Nice to see that he’s really not interested in answering my questions.

Shouldn’t the new movie be Cancer is a Lucrative Business? It certainly is for Burzynski and his henchmen.

Book by Sawanobori including information about him

So, now you’re down to appealing to the authority of a Japanese proponent of intravenous vitamin C quackery? Well done.

Marc Stephens Is Insane, please provide FACTUAL proof to prop up your deluded statement that “I guess Didy didn’t bother to read those information sheets either.”

Chris, what claim am I making? Please cite the claim & date of the post. Why do you mistakenly think it’s my responsibility to “show Burzynski is not a quack?” Please cite where I have indicated that SRB is or isn’t a quack & the date of the post. Why do you mistakenly believe it’s my responsibility to “show Burzynski is legit?” Please cite where I have indicated that SRB is or isn’t legit & the date of the post. Why should I apologize when you have not apologized for misstating my argument 11/28 as pointed out in my 11/28, 11/29 & 12/1/12 posts? I asked you “[h]ow MANY people have posed questions to you” & you were not able to provide a # but just “MANY.” (Emphasis added for ease of reading.) Actually, are you having trouble with numbers, especially the concept of the “one?” One, as in a number between zero & infinity. Now, stop whining, just answer my questions. In my 12/1 post I asked you to “[P]lease point out where I stated that the PubMeds were “results” & cite which law or regulation requires the information you are requesting,” & you did not, though you posted my question to you; one right after the other, in 2 of your 12/1/12 posts.

Narad, good question. Who are you?

Shay, please cite any post(s) & their dates which “shredded whatever” I’ve “managed to produce” where I have not responded to their alleged “FACTS.” Please cite any post(s) & their dates which support your allegation that I’ve “demonstrated that” I’m “doing a quick copy/paste without bothering to check the articles” I’m “citing to see if they support” my “claims.” Maybe you’d like to take a crack at my above post to Chris where I point out that my question has still not been answered, just by actually, you know, READING.”

Marc Stephens Is Insane. please cite any post(s) & their date which support your misguided allegation that I am “spending so much time defending Stan.” And No, I am not defending quacks.

Chris, please cite any post(s) & their date which support your misguided attempt at trying to prove that I “could not even be bothered to read the titles to” my “cut and pasta links!” Exactly what are “PASTA links?” 😐

jergen, another Burzynski “patient” story:
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/february222011/burzynski-cancer-kt.php

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/june072011/laura-jo-hofsess-.php
Chris, and that makes it all more despicable that you misguidedly claim that I spend “so much time trying to defend Burzynski without providing any real evidence.”

MarkL, please cite any post(s) & their dates that buttress your misguided belief that I “claimed that” I was “not asked for results.” At least I am an Adult who does not need to stoop down to your level of adolescent name-calling.

Narad, how old are you? 9? Because that’s what your choice of coarse language suggests. And if you are “already able to recognize the style of a title in the peerage,” why did you write on 11/30/12 that “Baldwin of Bewdley” as author should really be a flag,” but not state why it should be a flag? Way to ASSUME that i somehow attempted anything “that is supposed to stun people.” Since you obviously have the miraculous power to read my mind, what is the “point that” I” thought “I” had made”?

Marc Stephens Is Insane, you quote my post:
“flip, what’s your point? You write that:
“[p]atients do not pay anything, before, during or after a clinical trial.”
Below are some sources which do not agree with you.”
1. You write that: “one makes no reference at all to payments,” yet the 1st link states: Questions to Ask: Anyone interested in participating in a clinical study should … feel comfortable asking the research team questions about … any expenses.
2. The 2nd link: Paying for Clinical Trials: As you think about taking part in a clinical trial, you will face the issue of how to cover the costs of care. Even if you have health insurance, your plan may not cover all costs related to receiving treatment in a clinical trial. There are 2 types of costs associated with a clinical trial: patient care costs & research costs. Patient care costs are those costs related to treating your cancer. These costs are often covered by health insurance. They include: Doctor visits,
Hospital stays, Lab tests, X-rays & other imaging tests. Research costs are those related to taking part in the trial. Often these costs are not covered by health insurance, but they may be covered by the trial’s sponsor. Examples include: The study drug, Lab tests performed purely for research purposes, Additional x-rays & imaging tests performed solely for the trial. When you take part in a trial, you may have extra doctor visits that you would not have with standard treatment. These extra visits can add costs for transportation & child care.
3. The 3rd link:”Who is responsible for the costs of the clinical trial (tests, doctor’s visits, etc.). Who is responsible for the costs if a patient needs additional care as a result of the clinical trial. The trial sponsor may pay for some of your medical care or tests. Be sure to ask your doctor or the research nurse about who is responsible for these costs before agreeing to participate. Your medical care may be more expensive. Your health insurance company may not pay for your clinical trial care or tests. Be sure to ask your doctor or the research nurse about who is responsible for these costs before agreeing to participate. Where you live may require more money for travel. You will be responsible for any costs not covered by the clinical trial sponsor or your health insurance company. Be sure to ask questions about cost before making your decision to take part in a clinical trial, especially to confirm what costs your health insurance company will cover. Would I be responsible for additional costs of tests or travel?
Once again Marc Stephens Is Insane misrepresents links that don’t say what he thinks they say.

Narad, how old are you? 9? Because that’s what your choice of coarse language suggests.

When was the last time that a nine-year-old called you a prat, Fanny? Have some salad creme and relax.

And if you are “already able to recognize the style of a title in the peerage,” why did you write on 11/30/12 that “Baldwin of Bewdley” as author should really be a flag,” but not state why it should be a flag?

Well, I was mocking you on the grounds of general ignorance, so I don’t know that I’m really responsible for providing an exercise key.

Way to ASSUME that i somehow attempted anything “that is supposed to stun people.”

Oh, look, it’s the magic teaching puzzle again.

Since you obviously have the miraculous power to read my mind, what is the “point that” I” thought “I” had made”?

Precisely that which you stated at the outset of your humiliating and comically inept self-immolation: that these offererings represented support for the assertion that “there’s been so much research.”

Didymus Judas Thomas, you are pathetic. As a acolyte of Burzynski you are adept at using the Gish Gallop, but completely unable to find one paper that shows his methods are as effective as Gleevec for the treatment of any cancer. It is truly sad that you spend so much time defending a fraud without any evidence.

I think enough is enough .

Diddums clearly has no intention of answering any of the questions put to him, and is more intent on frustrating the debate than in joining it.

Time to move on, remembering this sage advice:

“Please do not feed the Troll”

@DJT

Do you understand the meaning of the word ‘prove’ or ‘evidence’? You’re like those people who insist it’s up to everyone else to disprove god.

Your word salad Gish gallop is almost incomprehensible. Can you perhaps slow down and take small bites?

The rest of your comment about who pays for what in a trial either shows you can’t/won’t read, or you have trouble understanding English. Is it not your native language?

In none of the above have you even come close to proving that Burzyinski has published evidence, that you have provided it, or that we should stop asking for it for any reason.

@flip – I was going to say incomprehensible, because I have no idea what he’s trying to say…

The reason why Earl Baldwin of Bewdley is a red flag when discussing alternative medicine is that the same reason Kent Hovind would be a red flag if we were discussing evolution: Baldwin is a known and prominent promoter of woo, who as a member of House of Lords Science and Technology Sub-Group for Alternative and Complementary Medicine wrote a report in support of homeopathy.

I think he’s trying to say that he’s neutral, and that we should supply proof that he isn’t. Or something. ‘Almost’ incomprehensible is probably an understatement.

I’m willing to believe that perhaps he’s just misunderstanding what he’s reading, due to language barriers. (There’s a huge difference to his style as compared to Marg or Judtih)

Narad, www . radaris . com/p/Dvorit/Samid

Antaeus Feldspar, if you don’t watch out you’ll have a brain aneurysm trying to prove that False Positive! 😮
Please cite the post(s) & their date which you misguidededly think exists, proving that my guru is Stanwey. I’m seriously suggesting that you & others are expending more energy on SRB than on executives from GlaxoSmithKline; which was fined the biggest drug co fine to date of $3 BILLION, yet no executives were fined.
“What we’re learning is that money doesn’t deter corporate malfeasance,” said Eliot Spitzer, who, as New York’s attorney general, sued GlaxoSmithKline in 2004 over similar accusations. “The only thing that will work in my view is C.E.O.’s and officials being forced to resign and individual culpability being enforced.”
Others have said that to institute real change, executives must be prosecuted criminally or barred from participating in the Medicare & Medicaid programs, an action known as “exclusion.”
This has occurred in only a handful of cases, and rarely in a case involving a major pharmaceutical company. In 2011, 4 executives were sentenced to less than a year in prison for conducting clinical trials that were not authorized by the FDA.
That same year, the former chief executive of a drug co was sentenced to 30 days in jail & fined $1 million for selling misbranded drugs.The previous year, HHS excluded him from doing business with the federal government.
www . nytimes . com/2012/07/03/business/glaxosmithkline-agrees-to-pay-3-billion-in-fraud-settlement.html?pagewanted=all
Yet Glaxo earned $27.9 BILLION on 3 drugs during the time-period covered.
New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer sued GSK in 2004; which earned $3 BILLION in 2003 on the drug in question, alleging they misled doctors by concealing it’s adverse effects & released only 1 out of at least 5 studies on the drug:
www . ecommercetimes . com/story/36159.html
That an internal memo said that in light of the poor study results, the company’s “target” was to “effectively manage the dissemination of these data in order to minimize any potential negative commercial impact”. It says that the company also gave its salespeople a memo stating that the drug “demonstrates remarkable efficacy and safety…” Attached to the memo, the suit says, was the 1 published study that showed some positive results:
www . nature . com/drugdisc/news/articles/429589a.html
Estimated that the drug was prescribed to 2.1 million people & earned $55 million that year:
www . ag . ny . gov/sites/default/files/pdfs/bureaus/health_care/newsletters/hcnews_junjul04.pdf.
“Because so much drug company data submitted is considered proprietary, it is up to the F.D.A. to decide when to disclose possible safety concerns.”
www . nytimes . com/2004/06/03/business/spitzer-sues-a-drug-maker-saying-it-hid-negative-data.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm
Former New York Governor Eliot Spitzer, who’d sued GlaxoSmithKline previously while serving as New York’s attorney general – argued that seeking monetary damages isn’t going to change most problematic practices of the pharmaceutical industry. Instead, they say, we should seek criminal charges against specific executives, the risk of jail time being the only way to actually change behavior. In the last 3 decades, the FDA has become increasingly dependent for its continued functioning upon user fees paid by the very drug makers it’s meant to regulate.
www . ideas . time . com/2012/07/06/glaxo-fine-what-will-stop-big-pharma-fraud

Science Mom, so you still refuse to cite which post(s) & their date applies to this “claim” you keep referring to but for some reason can’t cite. See my above post re Part II of the Burzynski movie.
Maybe NIH should fund it because of this:
Targeted therapy with antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 of high-grade, recurrent, and progressive brainstem glioma.
Authors: Burzynski SR, Janicki TJ, Weaver RA, Burzynski B.
Journal Integr Cancer Ther. 2006 Mar;5(1):40-7.
Affiliation: Department of Internal Medicine, Burzynski Clinic, Houston, Texas 77055, USA. [email protected]
Abstract: BACKGROUND: Brainstem glioma carries the worst prognosis of all malignancies of the brain. Most patients with brainstem glioma fail standard radiation therapy and chemotherapy and do not survive longer than 2 years. Treatment is even more challenging when an inoperable tumor is of high-grade pathology (HBSG). The objective of this report is to summarize the outcome of patients with HBSG treated with antineoplastons in 4 phase 2 trials. Patients: The following group of 18 patients was evaluable: 4 patients with glioblastomas and 14 patients with anaplastic HBSG. Fourteen patients had diffuse intrinsic tumors. Twelve patients suffered from recurrence, and 6 patients did not have radiation therapy or chemotherapy.
METHODS: Antineoplastons, which consist of antineoplaston A10 (A10I) and AS2-1 injections, were given in escalating doses by intravenous injections. The median duration of antineoplaston administration was 5 months, and the average dosage of A10I was 9.22 g/kg/d and of AS2-1 was 0.31 g/kg/d. Responses were assessed by gadolinium-enhanced magnetic resonance imaging and positron emission tomography.
RESULTS: The overall survival at 2 and 5 years was 39% and 22%, respectively, and maximum survival was more than 17 years for a patient with anaplastic astrocytoma and more than 5 years for a patient with glioblastoma. Progression-free survival at 6 months was 39%. Complete response was achieved in 11%, partial response in 11%, stable disease in 39%, and progressive disease in 39% of patients. Antineoplastons were tolerated very well with 1 case of grade 4 toxicity (reversible anemia).
CONCLUSION: Antineoplastons contributed to more than a 5-year survival in recurrent diffuse intrinsic glioblastomas and anaplastic astrocytomas of the brainstem in a small group of patients.
PMID 16484713 [PubMed – indexed for MEDLINE]
Full text: HighWire Press. Related Citations (304)
www . ncbi . nlm . nih . gov/m/pubmed/16484713
Y’all are the ones whining about reports not being published, yet you cite no law or regulation that requires the publishing.
http: // highwire . stanford . edu/cgi/searchresults?RESULTFORMAT=1&hits=150&sortspec=match&sendit=Update+display&tyear=2013&resourcetype=1&tmonth=Dec&fulltext=Antineoplastons&andorexacttitleabs=and&src=ml&author1=Burzynski&fmonth=Jan&y=0&fyear=1753&x=0&fdatedef=1+January+1753&andorexacttitle=and&searchsubmit=redo&andorexactfulltext=and&tdatedef=3+Dec+2012
herr doktor bimler, refer to my above post re Part II of the Burzynski movie.
Dude, only SRB knows if he has the $.

flip, you “talk” a lot but I guess you don’t know how to do a search on the Internet, but then again, it was the strawman in the Wizard of Oz that didn’t have a brain.
I’m not the one who made the over-broad generalization that: “Patients do not pay anything, before, during or after a clinical trial.” That was flippant.

Narad, and I guess you’re more along the lines of George Bush … pick 1.

W. Kevin Vicklund, look behind you.
www . thenhf . com/article.php?id=3326

www . healthlifee . com/disease/cancer/12754-the-many-trials-of-dr-burzynski.html

https: // docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:ElTW2l484TUJ:www.clintonlibrary.gov/assets/storage/Research%2520-%2520Digital%2520Library/jennings-hsa/Box%2520038/647904-correspondence-buryznski-stanislaw-2.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgTZjL8ZaHuyFVVZ0jgSthZTEd8IBSj7m6E5EMiBgMAUm_HuXZAcTRaEKxJRaspiDlO_AOwyTAe4aNl162ddc5prFMX69WVZrUQGDICVkfKRmYzm2JZElyyYWeh07F6ejJ4Rc2j&sig=AHIEtbS2iobO2tOSfDKA6P9-zBxSvBnaSw

https: // docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:Q5CJZ7wMlm8J:dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/9453691/mstennes.pdf%3Fsequence%3D1+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgpwuCsrSXG4QtI80dh0bj5gapqSiOCt–5MZHN1yPkemicxoBErvoU4OS9_rjKlHo7KR7afzi_YKNmo-0nyWUR7kOYuv8nNR7jy1s3MKTlBdeDCxBqURMWNOCvcB2JxOlowbaG&sig=AHIEtbQ-32lniQlIAduG2ZMSTX1gbT-Qgg

https: // docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:gU3fCI4uOhoJ:www.clintonlibrary.gov/assets/storage/Research%2520-%2520Digital%2520Library/jennings-hsa/Box%2520038/647904-correspondence-buryznski-stanislaw-1.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESg507sz38woNzSvUboFoihXr6CgDyiY6p66MlI25LflJhDbA3QtD9YQrRfF495cxXLGlxNwiAYKKTgMZ5GS92TRs5iVU8WnRKh5FmM2HDcuLOTYwuW5Y7Sbd5YKqMEH1FL45fxT&sig=AHIEtbRe80fGTp17jpbBUtVjafDB-3O0MA

Lawrence, please enlighten me on how my 2 11/28 posts
were proven incorrect, for example.

MarkL, let me guess, you suffer from insecurity? You perhaps posit that people are not interested in the Trailer or anything else which might answer some of the questions they have posted on this blog.

Lawrence, did you view the trailer?

flip, I think we know who’s getting more questions from other posters on here, and it’s not you!

Narad, I haven’t been to Limey Blimey Pea Soup Country. Have some tater salad & relax. And I am mocking you on the grounds of feigned ignorance. You should learn how to use that “matching teaching puzzle.” Have you ever solved a Rubix Cube? Research like those in the above last link to Science Mom?

Chris, you are more pathetic because of your “stick-my-head-in-the-sand” ostrich-like standing that you are so physically & mentally inept that you keep positing theory along the lines that ignorance of the law is an excuse.

Have you ever solved a Rubix Cube?

Yes, and I can even spell it correctly. It’s trivial if one can remember so much as two transformations in the group.

CONCLUSION: Antineoplastons contributed to more than a 5-year survival in recurrent diffuse intrinsic glioblastomas and anaplastic astrocytomas of the brainstem in a small group of patients.

Um, one cannot legitimately arrive at this conclusion, given the “design.” Did you get this from Moss again? Do you understand why ICT is not exactly an impressive source?

DJT,

You still don’t understand what the tu quoque fallacy is, or what a controlled clinical trial is, apparently. You swamp this blog with references to articles about Burzynski, none of which are good evidence of anything, and then claim you are not supporting him. What was the point of posting all those links? If you are trying to destroy any small amount of remaining credibility you have left, don’t bother, you lost it all some time ago.

By the way, many of Burzynski’s longest surviving patients had conventional treatment. You linked to a story about Laura Jo Hofsess who had Tarceva, Herceptin and radiotherapy as well as antineoplastons. As MSII mentioned, sadly she didn’t survive. We don’t know what contribution to survival any of Burzynski’s treatments have made because he has never published (or carried out as far as I can see) any controlled studies.

DJT is a true blue Burzynski fanboy who has graduated into a full troll. Time to ignore him.

Science Mom, so you still refuse to cite which post(s) & their date applies to this “claim” you keep referring to but for some reason can’t cite. See my above post re Part II of the Burzynski movie.

Sorry, can’t keep track of your incoherent word salads. Don’t know what I’m refusing to do.

Maybe NIH should fund it because of this:
Targeted therapy with antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 of high-grade, recurrent, and progressive brainstem glioma.
Authors: Burzynski SR, Janicki TJ, Weaver RA, Burzynski B.
Journal Integr Cancer Ther. 2006 Mar;5(1):40-7.

Bwahahaha!!! Sure the NIH is going to fund crap based upon personal testimonies. It’s bad enough they fund homeopathy Tell your mate Burzynski to apply for an NCCAM grant, he’d have better luck since they fund quackery. Or ya know, he could actually publish the results of his decades-long “clinical trials”.

Insecurity?

Not at all Diddums, I just think it pointless to argue with a Burzynski fanboy who ignores any request for even the smallest sliver of evidence that the object of his perverse support is anything other than a con man, yet continues to post advertorials and puff pieces from dubious sources as “proof” that the maverick doctor deserves other than ridicule and condemnation.

Everything you have posted in this thread adds up to a big fat zero, you have achieved nothing other than to make yourself look ridiculous.

W. Kevin Vicklund, look behind you.

Falsely claiming that I was the person who claimed that Burzynski cost taxpayers $60 million in lawsuit(s) is not getting off to a good start. Or are you admitting to assault?

www . thenhf . com/article.php?id=3326

Written in 2012, no source other than Burzynski, author not involved in the trial in any capacity. Not a reliable source.

www . healthlifee . com/disease/cancer/12754-the-many-trials-of-dr-burzynski.html

Written in 2010, no source other than “documentary” paid for by Burzynski, author not involved in the trial in any capacity. Not a reliable source.

https: // docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:ElTW2l484TUJ:www.clintonlibrary.gov/assets/storage/Research%2520-%2520Digital%2520Library/jennings-hsa/Box%2520038/647904-correspondence-buryznski-stanislaw-2.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgTZjL8ZaHuyFVVZ0jgSthZTEd8IBSj7m6E5EMiBgMAUm_HuXZAcTRaEKxJRaspiDlO_AOwyTAe4aNl162ddc5prFMX69WVZrUQGDICVkfKRmYzm2JZElyyYWeh07F6ejJ4Rc2j&sig=AHIEtbS2iobO2tOSfDKA6P9-zBxSvBnaSw

https: // docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:Q5CJZ7wMlm8J:dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/9453691/mstennes.pdf%3Fsequence%3D1+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgpwuCsrSXG4QtI80dh0bj5gapqSiOCt–5MZHN1yPkemicxoBErvoU4OS9_rjKlHo7KR7afzi_YKNmo-0nyWUR7kOYuv8nNR7jy1s3MKTlBdeDCxBqURMWNOCvcB2JxOlowbaG&sig=AHIEtbQ-32lniQlIAduG2ZMSTX1gbT-Qgg

https: // docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:gU3fCI4uOhoJ:www.clintonlibrary.gov/assets/storage/Research%2520-%2520Digital%2520Library/jennings-hsa/Box%2520038/647904-correspondence-buryznski-stanislaw-1.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESg507sz38woNzSvUboFoihXr6CgDyiY6p66MlI25LflJhDbA3QtD9YQrRfF495cxXLGlxNwiAYKKTgMZ5GS92TRs5iVU8WnRKh5FmM2HDcuLOTYwuW5Y7Sbd5YKqMEH1FL45fxT&sig=AHIEtbRe80fGTp17jpbBUtVjafDB-3O0MA

Proof that you are serving up plenty of copy-pasta rather than something you read: none of these three sources make a claim that the trial(s) cost taxpayers $60 million. Also, these documents are available direct, without having to resort to a Google docs archive.

Care to try again? Whose ass are you reaching into?

I love the sources Didy provided written by Dr. Julian Whittaker, a very special kind of quack who has been discussed here by Orac (and debated with Orac!) in depth.

A master of the graph.

He’s in Burzynski’s back pocket because of that anti-aging project they’ve been working on and he is the only doctor who will speak out in support of Burzynski (not counting the two anonymous doctors in the new movie trailer). What else do you expect? They’re partners.

By the way, I strongly suspect the Asian Burzunski clinics he’s looking to open will heavily promote the anti-aging angle of his business. Just a hunch.

And he’s also a scientology doctor who endorses their lethal Narconon program.

Hey guys and gals, sometime I just love that you are able to quote relevant quotes from Didysquat’s post because I have a really, really hard time reading his post.

@ Didysquat, would you please ventilate your post, I understand absolutely nothing of what you write.

Alain

Sorry, I put an extra “t” in Whitaker’s name.

Here’s part of his entry on Wikipedia (I know, I know, but the sources are good…):

Whitaker opposes the use of pharmaceuticals in the treatment of mental illness and believes that psychiatry is fraudulent. In a CNN interview with Anderson Cooper, Whitaker states that psychiatric diagnoses have “no basis” and are fabricated or voted into existence by powerful groups of doctors with financial interests. The combination of medication and talk therapy endorsed by psychiatry is a “script”, says Whitaker, who claims in the interview that his golden retriever can provide talk therapy just as well as a psychiatrist. According to Whitaker, vitamins, such as those promoted on his website, can cure psychiatric disorders by improving general health.

Criticism

Whitaker has been a controversial figure, and has been criticized for his self-promotional approach to medicine, potential conflicts of interest, and his embrace of scientifically unsound practices.

The National Council Against Health Fraud (NCAHF) criticises Whitaker for promoting himself as “America’s #1 health advocate,” “America’s #1 health champion,” and “the physician America trusts.” According to the NCAHF, Whitaker advocates potentially dangerous therapies involving growth hormones, chelation and megavitamins, and intervenes on behalf of other “maverick” doctors in legal trouble.

The Los Angeles Times notes that Whitaker serves as a consultant to vitamin companies advertised on his website, a practice criticised by other doctors who prefer to promote only evidence-based products. In the article, Whitaker is classified as a doctor “mixing celebrity and cyberspace”.

Whitaker claims to be a leading expert in “anti-aging medicine.

I have a really, really hard time reading his post.

You’re not the only one. DJT seems to really not grasp the concept of “context.” It’s like the whole thing has to be reconstructed from scratch, including what’s taken from elsewehere with no indication, with every word-blob.

Furthermore, does he think we’re not aware of all the puff pieces, vanity articles, insignificant studies published in non-credible journals, etc.? Or support editorials by other quacks? Several of those pieces have provided fodder for Orac and other science bloggers in recent times, to be explained, debunked or ridiculed.

I’m suprised he hasn’t posted the Dr. Oz/Eric Merola TV interview yet.

@ Marc Stephens Is Insane:

Whitaker, like Gary Null, claims special knowledge in the arcane ‘science’ of anti-aging medicine which includes such as ideas as:
you live much longer if you severely restrict calories**,
guzzle gallons of green juices.
take handfuls of supplements,
limit sugar,
eat mostly raw for ‘enzymes’, cook at 116 degrees F or less,
use organic and unprocessed foods, sans additives,
avoid acidic foods ( Young),
exercise every day and maintain an extremely low weight and BMI.
They also scoff about environmental pollution, radiation*** and EMFand about a THOUSAND OTHER THINGS.
I think you get the general idea that they believe that aging comes from external sources; damaged DNA can be repaired with the right nutrition etc.
I guess there’s nothing natural about aging- at least in their fevered imaginations.

** works in rats, so why not in woo-meisters?
*** but not the sun.

Denice,

Whitaker is “board certified” in anti-aging, except there’s no such thing.

From a Houston Times story on Burzynski back in 2008. I posted this on the other Burzynski thread a few days ago:

Which leads to one of the most troubling aspects of the Burzynski saga: Why have no credible oncologists stood up for him? Why don’t oncologists regularly refer their patients to his clinic? Why aren’t the greatest minds in medicine calling for the swift approval of antineoplastons?

If they are out there, the Press needs to hear from them. Burzynski obliges as best he can, throwing out the name of perhaps his biggest ally in medicine (using that term loosely). That is Julian Whitaker, an alternative medicine practitioner who claims to be “board-certified in antiaging medicine.” That could be true — it’s just a question of which board he’s talking about. One thing is for sure: It’s not the American Board of Medical Specialties, which is what most doctors are talking about when they say “board-­certified.” The ABMS does not recognize “anti­-aging” as a medical specialty. When asked for the names of supporting doctors who don’t have Web sites featuring “Rollback Savings!” on their lines of nutritional supplements, Burzynski eventually comes up with Bruce Cohen, a brain tumor specialist at the Cleveland Clinic. Cohen did not return calls.

By the way, someone named “Leah” posted a comment triumphing the Burzynski dismissal and championing other brave mavericks like Budwig. The comment seems to have been lost in the shuffle as there are no replies, and it’s a few comments up from the end, so I thought I’d bring it to your attention in case anyone feels like doling out some respectful insolence.

Darn, I really am losing my mind in my old age. The “Leah” comment is on the “response to a Burzynski father” thread. It looks to be copy-pasted from some Stan fan site. It’s really quite amusing.

@DJT

I will only bother in reposting what Krebiozen said:

DJT,

You still don’t understand what the tu quoque fallacy is, or what a controlled clinical trial is, apparently. You swamp this blog with references to articles about Burzynski, none of which are good evidence of anything, and then claim you are not supporting him. What was the point of posting all those links? If you are trying to destroy any small amount of remaining credibility you have left, don’t bother, you lost it all some time ago.

and Science Mom and I are in agreement:

Sorry, can’t keep track of your incoherent word salads.

I have no idea what you were trying to say to me.

@Marc Stephens is Insane,
I was amused that “Leah” prominently mentioned Wilhelm Reich, a very good candidate for the most notorious crazy crank of the twentieth century. Still, it’s hard to deny that Reich’s story still gives a certain charm, which I find completely lacking in Dr. B.

Incidentally, people posting links for Dr. B could be affecting search results, which admins should consider. Ironically, it could have the effect of boosting rankings for sites of his critics. I will admit to dabbling in that sort of thing, just to counteract keyword-loaded garbage a stalker put up on a site where terms of use are only enforced on behalf of people who can afford lawyers.

David N. Brown
Mesa, Arizona
http://www.exotroopers.wordpress.com
http://www.evilpossum.weebly.com

It seems her entire post, lock stock and barrel was lifted right off a Burzynski site, or Facebook posting.

I have to agree wholeheartedly with Leah’s post. Burzynski definitely belongs in the same category as Gerson, Rife, Hoxsey and Budwig. Just not the way she means.

Leah’s post actually made me aware of some other quacks I’d never heard of, and have been merrily Googling them too. Some serious fruitcakes and nutbars in that list. I love the people who believe shining coloured lights on different parts of your body can heal.

From Leah’s post:

The bottom line is this; if it’s owned or patented by a private individual, or can’t be patented at all, and can be used to cure cancer especially, you are not going to be allowed to practice your craft or use the technique or substance as a treatment and especially call it a “cure,” as long as the medical establishment can help it, thus far at all costs.

But it seems as if the medical establishment has so far been unable to stop Burzynski from “practicing his craft” so the entire paragraph is meaningless.

And I had no idea it was Reich behind the whole orgone thing. I thought that was more modern nuttery, from the whale.to era, like chemtrails.

I came across this earlier tonight: the blog of another Burzynski patient who died this past summer, six-year-old Supatra Adler. There’s a chart of all the treatments the parents were forcing this little girl to undergo beside the antineoplastons. They had her on Thai herbal medicine, mushroom extract from Taiwan, grapeseed extract, algae (to “detox” from radiation), several large glasses of juice a day (Gerson?), AND a Budwig diet. They complain that the little girl didn’t take to the cottage cheese and flax seed: what six-year-old eats that?

Take a look at this chart:

http://supatrascancerfight.blogspot.ca/p/treatments.html

@Marc Stephens Is Insane,
Reich and orgone are well-covered by historians of science. To my recollection, one of the first places I read about him would have been the “Big Book of” comic/ encyclopedia series. He was also covered in Martin Gardner’s “Fads and Fallacies”. As I indicated, many accounts almost put him in a sympathetic light. I think it’s especially telling that for better or worse, Reich really did live up to the image of the independent, non-conformist “maverick”. With Burzynski, on the other hand, it looks increasingly like he doesn’t (and maybe CAN’T) do much of anything without the approval of his lawyers and PR men. It’s as if big business has strip mined the romance even out of the crazies and charlatans.

David N. Brown
Mesa, Arizona

Reich undoubtedly started off sane, as a student of Freud with some valuable (IMHO) ideas about sexual repression, and undoubtedly ended up totally bonkers, believing he could zap invading alien spaceships with his cloudbusters. It’s hard to say just where in his career he completely lost the plot. There are some interesting parallels between Reich and Rife BTW, both believing they had discovered a cancer bacillus, for example. Reich is yet another example of an expert wandering out of his area of expertise and into trouble.

flip, I knew in your rigorous search for the truth that you would want to know any new information on SRB that comes to light. 🙂

Militant Agnostic,
$1.58 BILLION: Drug co’s & healthcare marketeers projected to spend on online advertising in 2012:
www . pharmalot . com/2012/06/pharma-will-spend-how-much-advertising-online
19 times more: Amount drug co’s spend on self-promotion compared to basic research.
$200 BILLION: Amount drug co revenues rose between 1995-2010
www . huffingtonpost . com/mobileweb/2012/08/09/pharmaceutical-companies-marketing_n_1760380.html
$6+ BILLION: Amount of revenue earned by top 5 drugs 3rd Quarter 2012:
www . fiercepharma . com/press-releases/drugscom-releases-q3-sales-top-100-us-drugs-singulair-drops-nexium-and-abil
$307+ BILLION: Amount spent on prescription drugs in USA 2010
http:// mobile . pharmacytimes . com/publications/issue/2011/May2011/Top-200-Drugs-of-2010
Marc Stephens Is Insane, yep, unfortunately people die.

Narad, I expected no less from you. Bring up Vitamin C & ignore his other research, publications, and education. Well done!

Chris, you are apathetic. Like a misguided chicken little dissumulator. It is truly sad that you spend so much time trying to prove a False Positive by claiming that I am defending a fraud without any evidence, because you’re unable to cite said evidence, because it doesn’t exist!

MarkL, who famously has no FACTS to support his position: “MarkL, please cite any post(s) & their dates that buttress your misguided belief that I “claimed that” I was “not asked for results.” At least I am an Adult who does not need to stoop down to your level of adolescent name-calling.”
Or do you clearly have no intention of answering any of the questions put to you, and are more intent on frustrating the debate than in joining it”?
Please do not feed MarkL “London Broil.”

flip, do you understand the meaning of False Positive? Can you prove the devil? Do you have a Gish Gallop Poll (or Pole) where you live? Do you have trouble understanding American English? Is it not your American native language? Have you ever opened Black’s Law Dictionary? It’s not my responsibility to “even come close to proving that Burzyinski has published evidence.” You as a Human Being; if you are indeed one instead of a Bot or Pet Rock, should be inquisitive enough to research things yourself instead of asking people to spoon feed it to you. Is the above post which has at its end, the HighWire Stanford University edu site, the “Research” you want?

Lawrence, read between the lines.

JGC, OH MY Goodness! Homeopathy!! Why that must be like sacrilegious!!! It reminds me of the story of the FDA vs. John S. Najarian:
http:// dash . harvard . edu/bitstream/handle/1/9453691/mstennes.pdf?sequence=1

www . ncbi . nlm. nih . gov/m/pubmed/7575112

www . mndaily . com/1996/02/22/najarian-acquitted-all-counts

http:// minnesota . publicradio . org/display/web/2006/02/28/uofmhospital

www . surg . umn . edu/Faculty_Alpha/najarian_john_s/home.html

www . surg . umn . edu/Faculty_Alpha/najarian_john_s/najarian_cv/home.html
flip, i see the idea lightbulb appeared above your head! Yes, I am saying I’m neutral as indicated in my 12/1 post.
Ever heard of the American Language?

Narad, do you need glasses? I’m concerned about your eyesight. Have you considered LASIK? Did you see the NCBI NLM NIH gov site link? I didn’t get this from Randy Moss. People can whine about ITC all they want.

Krebiozen, I really don’t give a “flip” about tu quoque. Do you know what law & regulations are? Black’s Law Dictionary? How to file a lawsuit? So your fallacy is that to neutrally post things so people can draw their own conclusions about the credibility of the information … oh wait! I think this is one of the reasons that the American Revolution against the British happened! Here’s my suggestion. Take your issues to the FDA.

Chris is a true blue Gleevec fanatic. Side Effects Associated With GLEEVEC: Some of these side effects may be minor, others could be very serious. Severity of some side effects may be reduced with the help of other medicines, others may require stopping therapy for a while or changing the dose. In some cases, therapy may need to be discontinued. Serious side effects: Severe fluid retention (holding water) & swelling, Cytopenias (reduction of certain elements in blood circulation), Severe congestive heart failure (impaired ability of the heart to pump blood) & left ventricular dysfunction (impaired functioning of the left side of the heart), Severe liver problems (hepatotoxicity), Hemorrhage (abnormal bleeding), GI perforation (holes in the stomach or intestine), Hypereosinophilic (a condition with increased eosinophils, which are a type of white blood cell) heart disease, Skin reactions (such as fluid-filled blisters), Hypothyroidism (reduction in thyroid hormones), Potential toxicities from long-term use, specifically liver, kidney, and/or heart toxicities, Potential harm to an unborn child, Growth retardation (slowing of growth), Tumor lysis syndrome (electrolyte disturbance), Dizziness, blurred vision, & somnolence. Common side effects: Almost all patients experience side effects at some time. Most side effects are mild to moderate in severity. Some common side effects that you may experience include: Fluid retention (holding water), Muscle cramps, pain, or bone pain, Abdominal pain, Anorexia (loss of appetite), Vomiting, Diarrhea, Decreased hemoglobin (decrease in blood cells which carry oxygen), Hemorrhage (abnormal bleeding), Nausea, Fatigue, Rash. It is especially important to tell your doctor about any fever, shortness of breath, blood in your stools, jaundice (yellowing of the skin and/or eyes), sudden weight gain, symptoms of heart failure, or if you have a history of heart disease or risk factors for heart disease.
www . gleevec . com/patient/kit-gist/gleevec-therapy/side-effects.jsp?usertrack.filter_applied=true&NovaId=4029462064338618122
Sounds like fun!

Science Mom, you disappoint me greatly, but I guess there is a lot of science involved in using the “Search” function for this blog. So … you made the claim but can’t remember your claim. But this’s the same NIH which funded him 1974-1976! 😮
http:// books . google . com/books?id=ImIJAAAAIAAJ&q=Burzynski&dq=Burzynski&lr=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&num=100&as_brr=0&output=html_text&cd=52
MUAH !! (Multiple Unsuccessful Attempts at Humor) Please cite any “FACTS” that substantiate your hallucinatory fantasy that Burzynski is my mate. NCCAM funds Ducks? The “clinical trials” in the above post to Science Mom where I provide a link for HighWire Stanford edu?

MarkL, I just think it pointless to argue with a LIAR who has no reply for “MarkL, please cite any post(s) & their dates that buttress your misguided belief that I “claimed that” I was “not asked for results.” At least I am an Adult who does not need to stoop down to your level of adolescent name-calling.” You LIE when you write that I am “a Burzynski fanboy” as you have not onw iota of evidence in support of that: because i dont live in the same State as him, have never met him, have never communicated with him, don’t personally know anyone who has met him, and have never received anything from him. Who LIES when he writes that I am one “who ignores any request for even the smallest sliver of evidence that the object of his perverse support is anything other than a con man” since you don’t have a scintilla of evidence that I support SRB or in the least exhibit perverse support for him or “yet continues to post advertorials and puff pieces” which is another LIE as I was the one who pointed out on 11/30/12 the Internet search on “Antineoplastons” “a form of chemotherapy” displays a google 2006 books link re “Get Healthy Now” (pg. 575) where SRB indicates that Antineoplastons are a form of chemotherapy…’ & pointed out “Orac writes: “[D]espite all of the attempts of Dr. Burzynski and supporters to portray them otherwise antineoplastons are chemotherapy…” and you LIE when you post that my information is “from dubious sources as “proof” that the maverick doctor deserves other than ridicule and condemnation.” You cite not 1 dubious source & you also conveniently do not point out that I’m the one who pointed out on 11/30/12 the National Cancer Institute at the National Institutes of Health & American Caner Society had information re Antineoplatons & SRB, thusly proving the last sentence of your post to also be a LIE.

W. Kevin Vicklund, you’re the one who asked: “Whose ass did you pull that number out of?” Didn’t you feel it come out of you right after you realized what a stupid question that was to posit in that manner? So you blithely ignore the author of the article & write her off as: “Not a reliable source.” However, you write “no source other than Burzynski” as if you were in the room with writer of the article, and state no FACTS to support your claim. You also write “author not involved in the trial in any capacity.” However, this proves nothing as the information could have been obtained from Attorney Rick Jaffe or through a Fredom of Information Act (FOIA) request or by other means. Would you care to try & pull a rabbit out of a hat?

Marc Stephens Is Insane, are you a curmudgeon? Because there is a Search function on the blog which allows you to search for “Whitaker,” and come up with nothing. Please cite the post(s) & date which contain Whitaker as the source.

Alain, I think there are quite a few “characters” trying to “ventilate” my posts without much success.

Narad, if you can’t remember what you wrote that I’m replying to, then maybe you’re just writing superfluous material.

flip, why am I not surprised you need someone else to reply for you? Don’t worry, people who have a lollipop as their picture generally have no idea what someone is trying to say to them.

MSII,

not counting the two anonymous doctors in the new movie trailer)

FWIW I was wondering about those two, even to the extent of taking screen caps and zooming in on their name badges. The first one seems to be called “Ali B” something, and is a hematologist/oncologist. The second one is Dr. Eric Carlson MD who is described as the head of Oncology at the University of Tennessee Medical Center on multiple websites (10,500 host the identical story, to be precise) but is in fact part of the oral and maxillofacial surgical team there. He is also “Chief, Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery, University of Tennessee Memorial Hospital and University of Tennessee Cancer Institute” and “Professor and Chairman, Director of Residency Program, Department of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery, University of Tennessee Graduate School of Medicine”.

Dr. Carlson was, according to the aforementioned multiple websites, treating Betty Whyte for Merkle [sic] cell cancer before she was treated by Burzynski though he refers, confusingly, to “Mrs Wright” in the clip. I think she may be one of the patients seen in the clip (2:37). I can’t find any more information about her case anywhere, and I can’t even be sure that this is the patient Dr. Carlson is discussing.

DJT< regarding Targeted therapy with antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 of high-grade, recurrent, and progressive brainstem glioma.
This paperdoes not give results from a double-blind, randomised clinical trial. Instead it includes subjects from four different trials, without stating what trials they were part of. Burzynski has cherry picked subjects from separate trials to make a false case for antineoplastin efficacy.

Note that subject numbers, even across four trials, is low (18 patients)

Further teh subjects aren’t matched with respect to cancer stage, etc.: while the paper states that 14 patients had diffuse intrinsic tumors it does not state what the remaining four patients had.
Even with the cherry picked best cases antineoplastons were at best marginally effective–12 of 18 patients suffered recurrence.

The paper states 12 patients had radiation therapy or chemotherapy simultaneously or prior to receiving antineoplastons but does not match outcomes to treatment, so there’s no way to tell if the marginal success he’s claiming for his tehrapy can be attributed to to antineoplastins or to standard chemo/radiation.

In short, this paper is a massive fail as far as providing evidence antioneoplastions effectively treat paper. I know that Journal Integr Cancer Ther is a low impact journal, but I’m still surprised they’d accept an submission this flawed for publication.

Diddums,

In answer to your pathetic evasion:

Diddums, you said:

“herr doktor bimler, where does Chris’ post state “clinical results?” It states “clinical.” As far as I’m concerned that left it up to my discretion as to what to choose to post.”

Lets look at what Chris said:

“Tell me the title, date and journal of the PubMed indexed paper where the RESULTS of those clinical are published. Then tell us why the one Phase 3 clinical trial is not allowing participants.”

To make it easy I have capitalized the relevant word in Chris’s request.

Still having difficulty Diddums?

We will await the data.

As for my having no facts to support my position that Burzynski is a con-man………….. What more do I need? It isnt my job to show that his medicine doesnt work, it is up to him to get FDA approval.

Burzynski has failed to provide ANY evidence that his treatment works. After closing on 4 decades of experimentation, he cannot put together ANY results that support the efficacy of Antineoplaston therapy. Nothing. Zip. Nada.

Yet still he relies on fanboys like you to fight for his reputation. Why has he not sued people for calling him a money grubbing worm? Why does he answer almost universal condemnation and ridicule with advertorials and puff pieces in woo-friendly journals.

So what of your contribution here? What have you actually achieved but put forward the same tired arguments supported by the same evidence free bullsh1t that the brave maverick’s supporters always produce? Arguments and articles that have been dissected and repudiated a dozen times or more here and in many other blogs & journals.

Burzynski is a fraud, a description that applies equally to you and your tired word salad of copy/pasta bull.

Didy,

Are you a complete and total moron? Do you read or even look at any of the links you provide?

No mention of Julain Whitaker? Look at the very first document here, in the LINK YOU PROVIDED. A newsletter from Dr. Julian Whitaker titled “The FDA’s Unholy War Against Dr. Burzynski”.

I didn’t make up a Whitaker refernce out of thin air. You gave it to us. Do you have the class to admit you were wrong and say “oh yeah, there was a document from Julian Whitaker in there, I am sorry I made a mistake”? Those words will never issue forth from your keyboard. Are you ever wrong about anything?

And yes, of course people die, but you presented two newspaper articles about Mary Jo Hofness from last year as proof that Burznyski is not a fraud. I am merely pointing out, if you want to use the same patient as an example, that she died several months ago. Don’ty you understand when you post newspaper articles we can do the same?

The last thing I will ever write to you, Didy, is a huge question. You keep denying you are shilling for Bursynski and claim you are not here to support him. Please then, tell us in one or two sentences, why exactly are you here, posting lengthy comments attrempting to “show us” the other side?

Oh, and Didy, take a look at this link YOU SENT US: another Julian Whitaker newsletter, titled “The FDA’s Latest Abuse of Power” from 1996 (it’s not the first document here, you have to scroll down a bit…that means use your mouse to move the words up on your screen so you can see the rest of the documents.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:gU3fCI4uOhoJ:www.clintonlibrary.gov/assets/storage/Research%2520-%2520Digital%2520Library/jennings-hsa/Box%2520038/647904-correspondence-buryznski-stanislaw-1.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESg507sz38woNzSvUboFoihXr6CgDyiY6p66MlI25LflJhDbA3QtD9YQrRfF495cxXLGlxNwiAYKKTgMZ5GS92TRs5iVU8WnRKh5FmM2HDcuLOTYwuW5Y7Sbd5YKqMEH1FL45fxT&sig=AHIEtbRe80fGTp17jpbBUtVjafDB-3O0MA

Yeah, I invented the Julian Whitaker references. I await your apology.

And Didy, since you love newspaper articles so much, why don’t you read this, a recent profile piece from 2008 from the doctor’s own hometown newspaper. I know it’s long, but maybe you can read it in chunks and take a nice lie-down in between if your brain starts to hurt.

Tell me this is a man you would trust with your life, or a loved one’s life. Who talks like this to reporter when they know they’re on the record? Calling a reporter a shit with a little brain? The man is deranged, and this brilliant reporter didn’t try to hide his contempt for Burzynski.

http://www.houstonpress.com/2009-01-01/news/cancer-doctor-stanislaw-burzynski-sees-himself-as-a-crusading-researcher-not-a-quack/

Do you have trouble understanding American English? Is it not your American native language?

Pretty rich coming from someone with the communication skills of a doorknob.

Hey, there are some pretty intelligent electronic doorknobs out there now. Computer chips, memory, etc. Don’t insult the hardware industry!

And for the record, I speak Canadian English, eh? Et francais aussi. But not American English. Unless I take a trip to Burlington Vt. and I drop the “u” in words like colour and neighbour.

Science Mom, you disappoint me greatly, but I guess there is a lot of science involved in using the “Search” function for this blog. So … you made the claim but can’t remember your claim. But this’s the same NIH which funded him 1974-1976! 😮
http:// books . google . com/books?id=ImIJAAAAIAAJ&q=Burzynski&dq=Burzynski&lr=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&num=100&as_brr=0&output=html_text&cd=52

So you are using a book (with an invalid link) to prove something? What is the grant number? You have produced so much drek here I really don’t even know what claim you are responding to. That’s why we use quoting, you should try it and provide any statements you are responding to. You seem to be the one with unlimited time on your hands, not me.

MUAH !! (Multiple Unsuccessful Attempts at Humor) Please cite any “FACTS” that substantiate your hallucinatory fantasy that Burzynski is my mate.

Your defence of Burzynski is so charming but I could be wrong and you are either paid to do so or are so enamoured with him in a rather unhealthy way that you don’t mind making a complete arse of yourself.

NCCAM funds Ducks? The “clinical trials” in the above post to Science Mom where I provide a link for HighWire Stanford edu?

Burzynski really needs a better class of fanbois; I actually made a helpful suggestion but you are too dim to grasp that. So what about clinical trials. He’s been allegedly running them for over 30 years with nothing really to show from them. And as I stated earlier, he has no intention because he is bilking a good living out of desperate people and has insulated himself rather well.

On the Burzynski Clinic website, there’s a relatively new link to an interview with Stan published this summer in some rag called “Alternative Therapies”. In his own words, he says he was receiving a substantial salary in Poland and got a research job at Baylor as soon as he arrived in the US (he says at that point he still could barely speak any English.) So what’s all this BS about coming to this country with $15 in his pocket and not being able to pay for staff or research protocols? He only struck out on his own after he had being employed here for some time. He didn’t set up his clinic the second he stepped off the boat, so what does that “$15 in his poecket” even mean?

More seriously, in this interview he addresses everything: the clinical trials, the adversaries trying to stop him, the cost of his treatments, “targetted” gene therapy, the new era of antineoplastons, everything. All paranoia and lies, of course, like this. (Sorry for the formatting, it’s cut-and-paste from a pdf:)

Dr Burzynski: When patients come to us, most of them are treated
in our oncology practice. We try to help obtain payments from the
insurance companies for them—they have insurance policies and
for most of them, insurance covers the treatment which is done
here. If you are talking about antineoplastons clinical trials, we
provide medication free of charge, which costs us a lot of money.
Annually, we spend $5 to $6 million for this purpose. If you have
support from the government, then this money probably would
come from the government. But instead we have to generate the
money through our business activities and use this money for the
approval process. It can be done. In medical history, it was always
done this way. Only recently have the doctors become the slaves of
organizations like the NCI or pharmaceutical companies. We are
independent and can do whatever we would like to do without being
manipulated by the other agencies…

I almost spit coffee when I read this nonsense:

ATHM: Do you think that understanding in the medical community
about your research is improving with time or evolving?
Dr Burzynski: Absolutely. Some of the brightest oncologists are
working together with us. We have a group of about 100 top oncologists.
We are treating patients together with oncologists from
all over the world. We are talking about the brightest guys. The rest
of the club does not understand what we do at all and hate us. They
would like to get rid of us. They hate to see our good results. But
this crowd also will change if the breakthrough comes. So at this
moment, we have to convert oncologists one by one. Of course,
I am giving lectures at the oncology congresses, but only a few of
these doctors will pay attention to what I have to say because I am
not from a big medical institution. They don’t believe something
can come from a small clinic, a small research center. They all assume
research must come from a big pharmaceutical company or
big institutions. Unfortunately, not much good came from these
institutions within the last decade. But a number of doctors are beginning
to understand what we do, and the number of those who
would like to be trained in our strategy is increasing all the time.
We have oncologists coming to us from various countries almost
all the time to learn how to use our approach.

Please read the entire thing. I’m sure you’ll find things to pick apart in every single sentence.

http://www.burzynskiclinic.com/Burzynski-Interview.html

@Krebiozen,
Regarding Reich, it’s beyond serious dispute that he had some kind of mental health issue, but it’s problematic to treat it as an issue in appraising his work. From all we know of mental illness, it’s VERY unlikely that he ever had a problem that was not with him all along. It is plausible, however, that his symptoms and overall condition worsened over time. The period from the late 1930s onward, when he evidently went through significant turmoil in his personal life, could be especially significant.

David N. Brown,
I was using the terms “sane” and “bonkers” in an informal layman’s sense, not necessarily referring to mental health issues, rather to extremely unusual belief systems.

However, when you consider how Reich was treated I don’t think it is very surprising that he had some sort of mental breakdown. His ideas may have been wrong, but destroying research and burning books is no way to deal with that, in my view.

When I was younger I spent a lot of time reading Reich’s works, and what others wrote about him. I have a book of his letters and journals that cover the period when he asked Einstein to take a look at one of his orgone accumulators. The repeated refrain, “Still no word from Einstein” is very sad.

It’s a valid link, but Didy puts in all these annoying spaces in order to carpet bomb us with mutiple links in a single comment. Here it is without the spaces, but there’s nothing earth-shattering there:

Thanks MSII; I thought I had gotten all of the spaces (cripes you don’t need that many to slip through the filters). Yea, looks like Burzynski is in good company with Gerson and Hoxsey. Diddums shouldn’t be drawing attention to that hot mess.

DJT,
The bite-sized posts are a great improvement. A statement of what you are asserting, followed by evidence to support it, would improve them even more.

Jodi Fenton – Anaplastic Astrocytoma Grade III

I’m sure you are not suggesting in any way that Jodi Fenton’s case is evidence that Burzynski’s treatment is effective, but you still might be interested in what jli, an experienced histopathologist, has to say about it (Testimonial 1).

So based on what we are told and what we can deduce from the documentation, there are two possibilities:
1) A 2 cm anaplastic astrocytoma was biopsied. Without further intervention it shrunk to 0,5 cm.
Antineoplastons made the rest go away; this is in fact what the movie claims.
2) A 2 cm anaplastic astrocytoma was biopsied and then surgically removed. The subsequent inflammation
resolved on its own.

You can see the medical records that jli refers to here.
I also notice that the tumor measured 2.2 cm x 1.8 cm x 1.5 cm on her MRI, which is 5.94 cm³. After surgery the size of the tumor was 0.17³ which means that 97% of the tumor was removed during surgery, possibly more if you allow for post-operative inflammation as jli mentions. Not bad for an “inoperable” tumor.

That headline should really read, “Burzynski takes credit for Surgical Brain Cancer Cure”.

@Diddums

Perhaps your response made sense to you, but it doesn’t match up with what I last wrote. In fact, it just shows you to be sidestepping anything and everything that we say.

I wrote:

I will only bother in reposting what Krebiozen said:

DJT,

You still don’t understand what the tu quoque fallacy is, or what a controlled clinical trial is, apparently. You swamp this blog with references to articles about Burzynski, none of which are good evidence of anything, and then claim you are not supporting him. What was the point of posting all those links? If you are trying to destroy any small amount of remaining credibility you have left, don’t bother, you lost it all some time ago.

and Science Mom and I are in agreement:

Sorry, can’t keep track of your incoherent word salads.

I have no idea what you were trying to say to me.

And you wrote back:

flip, I knew in your rigorous search for the truth that you would want to know any new information on SRB that comes to light

So how in the world does one lead into the other? (Added, after reading the full comment: I see now that he’s replying to various comments but there’s no way to tell what sentences reply to what comments. I can’t be bothered scrolling up to figure it out, so here it remains…)

flip, do you understand the meaning of False Positive? Can you prove the devil? Do you have a Gish Gallop Poll (or Pole) where you live? Do you have trouble understanding American English? Is it not your American native language? Have you ever opened Black’s Law Dictionary? It’s not my responsibility to “even come close to proving that Burzyinski has published evidence.” You as a Human Being; if you are indeed one instead of a Bot or Pet Rock, should be inquisitive enough to research things yourself instead of asking people to spoon feed it to you. Is the above post which has at its end, the HighWire Stanford University edu site, the “Research” you want?

My question required a yes/no. I do not see such a sentence above. And no, American English is not my native tongue. I do however, speak Australian English, which is hardly different. And I use proper grammar and sentences that flow on from each other from one thought to the next in a manner that can be followed easily.

Perhaps you need to step out of your geocentric sphere for 2 seconds and recognise that the internet is international and that those international people can understand how to write English far better than you can. And by the way, I was attempting to defend a possible non-English speaker. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, and for that, I guess I’m sorry. You’re not struggling with ESL, you’re apparently just an idiot who doesn’t know how to write well.

— By the way, is this even grammatically correct? “Is it not your American native language?” Sounds like you transposed your words.

I’m also not sure you actually know or understand the references we made and you ‘satirised’.

As for requiring you to post evidence, maybe you need to clarify why you’re here and why you’re posting. We’re talking about one person who is supposed to be curing cancer. WTF are you talking about?

And I have yes, been looking at files and publications and reading various things here and there. I don’t have a lot of time to read everything; but the world and internet is large and you can’t just ‘research’ something based on doing a google. You and Jenny Mcarthy would get on fine I’m sure.

Yes, I am saying I’m neutral as indicated in my 12/1 post.

That isn’t exactly clear from your ranting. If you’d like to make it clearer, start writing in a way people can understand you. I’d recommend replying to one person at a time, and using shorter comments, and perhaps some decent paragraph styling.

By the way, I don’t understand this need to remain neutral. Science doesn’t give a flying f* about being nice to everyone, it picks sides. You’re either wrong or you’re not. Big Pharma can be wrong in certain instances; it can be right in others. The bold mavericks are hardly ever right; but can be in rare occasions. Like the others have been trying to say to you: we do not need to criticise everything to criticise Burzyinski. If you don’t understand, here’s a link:
http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

flip, why am I not surprised you need someone else to reply for you? Don’t worry, people who have a lollipop as their picture generally have no idea what someone is trying to say to them.

Or you dimbulb, I didn’t want to reinvent the wheel as I was in the middle of five other things and they had said what I had wanted to in a perfectly eloquent manner. Feel free to use all the ad hominems you like, it won’t make you any more legible or my re-use of their comments any less apt.

Feel free to continue blathering to yourself, I am not going to bother reading your replies as they’re so unintelligible, evasive, and full of ranting.

(To regulars, I get the feeling this crank is a libertarian – ‘balance’ and ‘freedom’ seem to be what he’s aiming for, and the right for customers to get screwed because it serves them right)

@MSII

And for the record, I speak Canadian English, eh? Et francais aussi. But not American English. Unless I take a trip to Burlington Vt. and I drop the “u” in words like colour and neighbour.

Je ne suis pas Francais, ou Canadien. Mais j’ai appris un peu a l’ecole.

Unfortunately I have also taught myself American spellings due to its commonality for overseas clients. It can be quite frustrating to remember and tough when your spellchecker doesn’t do its job. Canadian English – don’t you just put an ‘eh’ on everything at the end? 😉

So what’s all this BS about coming to this country with $15 in his pocket and not being able to pay for staff or research protocols?

I pointed that out already in one of my comments about the files on Josephine Jones’ site.

Diddums, you may wish to remain ignorant of tu quoque, but unfortunately I can explain it so simply that it will be apparent to everyone that you know you’re not arguing in good faith.

A tu quoque argument is one in the following form:

1) You shouldn’t talk about A doing wrong if B did something worse.
2) B did something worse.
3) Therefore you shouldn’t talk about A doing wrong.

Sadly for you, premise 1 is bullshit and that makes the whole argument bullshit. You may try – you’ve already tried – to pretend that you aren’t trying to disrupt and shut down discussion of Burzynski’s wrongdoing; that too is bullshit. There’s no point in dignifying it with any other name.

Comments re 12/4 –
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JGC, you remind me of:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK13919
Under “Pharmacologic and Biologic Treatments”
” [P]reliminary data recently were criticized by respected mainstream scientists as uninterpretable, and the therapy as useless and toxic.” (And it cites):
“Anonymous Experts say interpretable results unlikely in Burzynski’s antineoplastons studies. Cancer Lett. 1998;24:1–16. [PubMed]”
But the link to this cite doesn’t bring this “Anonymous” up & a search doesn’t either. Seriously? Anonymous?
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MarkL, WoW! You successfully posted basically the same thing on 11/29 & 12/4!! Have you been following along with the rest of us? Because since my 2nd post on 11/28 & Chris’ immediate missrepresention of what I wrote, and my request on my subsequent post “I will be happy to accept your apology,” and Chris’ follow-up 11/29 post sans apology, herr doktor bimler’s “piling on,” Chris’ ensuing excuse for an apology, my post that Chris use the “Magic Word,” Chris’ concomitant non-apologetic post sans “Magic Word,” Science Mom’s jumping on the bandwagon, JGC’s open season, Chris’ unapologetic “Magic Word” unaided post, Denice’s joining the circus, JGC’s blathering epiphany, Lawrence’s claim jumping, Chris’ impenitent absent “Magic Word” slurry, herr doktor bimler’s supplanting post, JGC’s off-shoot, MarkL’s usurping, herr doktor bimler’s aside, Todd W’s oppugn, flip’s flippant addition, Peebs’ elucidation, Denice’s hiccup, Chris’ unrepentant “Magic Word” using rehash, Narad’s penny pinching post, Denice’s insider comment, Chris’ unremorseful aside, Lawrence’s 11/30 whiny repository, MI Dawn’s hijacking, JGC’s goulash, Chris’ remorseless plea, Chris’ implacable uncontrite potpourri, Chris’ rehash, Lawrence’s linguine, Chris Goes GLEEVEC: “I don’t know what ‘apology’ means” time-wasting unapologetic post, Narad discovers Wall Street & Gordon Gekko:
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/724445/000110465912040430/a12-12972_110k.htm

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/724445/000110465909002283/a09-2965_1ex99d1.htm

12/1 – I post “Chris, why have you not apologized for misstating my argument?” Chris’ whines “Actually I did,” without any reference, twice, then whines again, and again, MarkL again interjects nothingness, Science Mom searches for a UFO, 12/2 Narad goes “George Bush,” flip flips out, Lawrence is confused, flip flip flops, 12/3 Chris chrysalises, Chris frantically searching for more ways to keep from apologizing, MarkL searches for pork pie in the sky, flip shows how to post posts posthaste, 12/4 MarkL re-posts basically what he reposted 11/29, then lies down but doesn’t play dead, Marc Stephens Is Insane goes Insane, then after posting: “The last thing I will ever write to you,” writes more, and MORE, AND MORE, Science Mom admits: “I could be wrong.”
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Marc Stephens Is Insane, are you Insane? Egad! HIS name is on 1 document out of 49!! I can understand why you are morally outraged!!! Do you think that I have a photographic memory so that I remember every name I read when reviewing all the information I go through in a day? Since you didn’t back up your post with “FACTS,” I just instinctively thought you were in denial. You actually got that one right! Unlike Chris, I will actually apologize for not consuming enough “Brain-Food,” or is that considered Homeopathic? I don’t use a keyboard, I project my thoughts like Dragon.
Please provide the “FACTS” that shore up your solecism that by posting 2 newspaper articles, I was attempting to provide “proof that Burznyski is not a fraud.” Who’s just “attrempting (sic) to “show”” you “the other side?” I’m presenting both sides. I don’t use a mouse. That would be cruelty to animals, which wouldn’t make PETA happy. Oh My! HIS name is on 1 document out of 42!! How could I not remember THAT!!!
THAT man could be a little man. Do you know how tall he is? I couldn’t tell from on-line pictures. But what a fabulous piece. Just look at how many people commented on the story on that site! O!! This is the guy cited on Wikipedia under SRB’s Clinic/Documentary pg. where he comments on it while admitting he didn’t watch it. What kinda “Hack” does that kind of Yellow Journalism?
What ever should I think about this Congressional testimony?:
http://www.heartmdinstitute.com/health-concerns/cancer/must-read-congressional-testimonyr-alternative-cancer-treatment
And my below links for Science Mom?
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Narad, pretty rich coming from someone who has no response to my three 12/4″The Land of the Brave post.”
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Science Mom, as someone pointed out later in the blog, there was a reason why I was adding spaces to links, but the reason is I got tired of Orac’s “Spam Bot” link-blocking. Who’s doing the most research around here to respond to people’s posts? You? Yes … you are wrong; maybe in more ways than 1. Read this:
12/6/12 Texas Medical Board Dismisses Case Against Cancer Doctor Burzynski:
http://healthimpactnews.com/2012/texas-medical-board-dismisses-case-against-cancer-doctor-burzynski
FDA requiring Radiation in Phase 3 trial:
http://www.heartmdinstitute.com/breaking-news/cancer-pioneer-faces-trial
Petition to White House:
http://www.cancertutor.com/Government/Government_and_Cancer.html
Antineoplastons clinical trials:
http://imsdd.meb.uni-bonn.de/cancernet/600743.html
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Marc Stephens Is Insane, no, it’s to bypass the Orac Spam Bot Link Block.

@ Didy,

I appreciate your post being more ventilated but haven’t read all your previous post, I lost the context but fear not, I’ll try to read some of your evidence (found in this latest post) and report back.

Alain

What in holy hell was that from Diddums?! Trying to read his post is what I would imagine being on an acid trip is like.

Trying to read his post is what I would imagine being on an acid trip is like.

More like Ritalin with a chaser of Nyquil. But, hey, it’s discovered the horizontal line, so there’s that.

Well, at least he seems to be learning. But he could try harder at making sentences shorter and allowing one thought for each. Perhaps somewhere in that mess is an actual point….

Perhaps somewhere in that mess is an actual point….

When someone thinks Black’s Law Dictionary is some sort of really impressive mention, I’m not encouraged.

Anyone besides me notice that some of Orac’s comments show up on:
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www. sciencebasedpharmacy. wordpress. com
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www. skepticalhumanities. com
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www. skeptico. blogs. com
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www. skepdic. com
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www. anaximperator. wordpress. com
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www. beforeitsnews. com
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www. doubtfulnews. com
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www. hepinfo. net
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🙂

Anyone besides me notice that some of Orac’s comments show up on: <mumble>

Yes.

Orac has commented twice on this thread and I cannot see any sign of those comments being recycled elsewhere. So the answer is “No, it’s just you”.

hdb, it seems interesting that we are taking different meanings of DJT’s word “comments” and come up with different but correct answers to DJT’s question.
You read “comments” as referring to blog comments, such as these. You correctly answer that you’ve not seen Orac’s words repeated from comments here to comments elsewhere.
In line with DJT’s looseness of thought and expression, I read his word “comments” as referring to Orac’s thoughts, and expression thereof, literal and paraphrased, in his articles as well as in the comments section here. My answer reflects the general applicability and insight of Orac’s thoughts and expressions — such that most blogs frequented by people who think are likely to contain many of the thoughts, expressed literally or paraphrased. This is not even taking into account that Orac’s work is quoted by his friend, and others, because of his perspicuity in the matters he writes on.
What DJT actually meant may never be known, even to DJT — he hasn’t exhibited much in the way of clarity.

Science Mom, I’ve been on several excursions via LSD and they made a lot more sense.

If I were looking for info on Burzynski because I was considering utilizing his services and found these addled prattlings of DiddyMau5 JT, I’d drop the idea like a bad habit.

DJT,
I’m disappointed you haven’t responded to my comment above, pointing out that at least 97% of Jodi Fenton’s tumor was surgically removed before she started antineoplastons. Yet the YouTube video you linked to claims that, “Jodi Fenton was cured of a Grade 3 Anaplastic Astrocytoma after being treated only with Antineoplastons”. Do you anything to say about that? Doesn’t that make you wonder just a little bit about the honesty of the rest of Burzynski’s propaganda?

Anyone besides me notice that some of Orac’s comments show up on…

No, but I comment on most of those blogs from time to time, since they all cover subjects I am interested in. So what?

@Diddums

Anyone besides me notice that some of Orac’s comments show up on:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh, thanks, I needed a laugh. 🙂

But seriously, maybe DJT is just a shill for Big Skeptics, promoting those evil websites that tell us we should be using science in our medical decisions. *claps* Very good, DJT, Lord Draconis will be along shortly to give you your prize…

Seriously? Anonymous?

Don’t know why I’d remind you of this letter, as neither I nor anyone else is criticizing Burzynski because anonymous scientists question whether his studies could produce interpretable data. I’m quite willing to stipulate that they may be wrong and –who knows?–maybe Burzynski’s studies could provide interpretable data. The real problem is that there’s nothing to attempt to interpret: Burzynski has never published data from the clinical trials he’s supposedly been conducting for a couple of decades.

Meanwhile, studies have been published which found antineoplastins ineffective. Like those found at the link you provided, which you conveniently ignored to focus on the whole anonymity red herring (Green S. Antineoplastons: an unproved cancer therapy. JAMA. 1992;267:2924–8; Buckner JC, Malkin MG, Reed E. et al. Phase II study of antineoplastons A10 (NSC 648539) and AS2-1 (NSC 620261) in patients with recurrent glioma. Mayo Clin Proc. 1999;74:137–45.)

12/5 comments:
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Krebiozen, so, what do histopathologists do? Hysteria-of-Pathological-Liar-ists?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histopathology
The Microscopic examination of tissue on glass slides.
Anaximperator blog:
So, what’s this person’s motivation?
“Blogging against alternative cancer treatments.”
Well, THAT answers THAT question!
jli’s “theory” re Jodi Gold Fenton “becomes problematic” (I use jli’s own words) when the reader is advised not to just look at the highlighted yellow portion but where “it tells us that the lesion could also be a lymphoma or an inflammatory process…”
jli does not point out that pg. 5 of the Medical Records indicates: “Other MR spectroscopy features. in particular the decreased lactate, make the diagnosis of lymphoma or abscess or other infectious process less likely.”
jli wrote:”At the start of the testimonial we were told that the astrocytoma was inoperable. Well – it was accessible for biopsy, so how then could it have been inaccessible to surgery?”
Well, JGF says that it was “inoperable,” so who told her that? Was she given inaccurate information by a medical professional?
pg. 9 indicates the Biopsy was a “Stereotactic Biopsy”
http://neurosurgery.ufl.edu/residency/about-us/clinical-specialties/stereotactic-brain-biopsy
which is supposedly a “minimally invasive procedure.”
jli keeps suggesting that surgery was performed after the biopsy but does not cite any supporting evidence.
Pg. 2: 2 cm. approximately – 5/11/2000
Pg. 3: 2.2 cm superior/inferior by 1.8 cm anterior/posterior by 1.5 cm mediclateral – 5/11/2000
Pg. 5: 2.67 X 2.02 X 2.55 cm. approximately – 5/11/2000
Pg. 6: 2.2 cm superior/inferior by 1.8 cm anterior/posterior by 1.5 cm – 5/11/2000
Pg. 8: 1.0 cm in length x 1.0 to 2.0 mm in thickness Labeled “biopsy left parietal mass”: The specimen consists of a core of gray tissue 5/15/2000
Pg. 10: 6/1/2000
0.2 x 0.1 = 0.02
0.5 x 0.3 = 0.15
= 0.17
Pg. 13: 6/1/2000
0.3 / 0.2 / 0.06
0.5 / 0.3 / 0.15
= 0.21
The truth is out there somewhere.

12/5 comments:
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flip, what did you say?
See my 12/4 response to: “Lawrence, read between the lines.”
Have you ever considered that maybe you’re posting too much garbage if you need to scroll up to remember what you posted?
I post replies in the same order as the posts I’m replying to.
12/2 my post re Part II of the SRB documentary was commented on 3 posts later by you on the same day where you whined that i didn’t respond to your Dingo Didgeridoo Kangaroo questions, and then the 4th post on 12/3 you again posted away about SRB & later posted: “I have no idea what you were trying to say to me.” So the 8th post of 12/4 was my: “flip, I knew in your rigorous search for the truth that you would want to know any new information on SRB that comes to light,” because I knew you would want to watch Part II of the Documentary to learn if any of your questions are answered.
For someone who “can’t be bothered scrolling up,” you sure had time to post a lot.
Yes/No.
Really? We all know from History that except for the aboriginal people, everyone else from Down Under are decendants of criminals, Right? 🙂
How’s your Geosphere? And the Vegamite sandwiches?
I like transposing words to make people think.
I think I’ve made it clear why I’m here:
12/4 to MarkL: ” you also conveniently do not point out that I’m the one who pointed out on 11/30/12 the National Cancer Institute at the National Institutes of Health & American Caner Society had information re Antineoplatons & SRB.”
Need some more? Check out my above post with links to SRB’s SEC filings.

12/5 comments:
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flip,
I know how to research off-line.
What did you say? I couldn’t understand you by cricky!
I’m not going to reply to 1 person at a time. Too time consuming. Consider how much time I spent researching for Krebiozen, above.
Yep, we know Science picks sides from:
Galileo – the Earth is round.
Ignaz Semmelweis – wash your hands between the time you deliver a baby & do an autopsy & deliver a baby, unless you like sending people “Down Under.”
Your Hyperbole is impressive!!
If you don’t understand why SRB is in the position he is in today because you refuse to look at the factors that contribute to the problem … then I can’t help you. Seen any ostriches lately with their heads in the ground?
So, if you are going to criticize SRB then you should criticize tu-quack.
It’s like criticizing the prison guard but not Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, or Mussolini
As usual, I guess blood has rushed to your head, being from Aussie Land, because as our former Republican American President Ronald Reagan used to say in Presidential Debates: “Well, there you go again.” Libertarian? Really? You don’t see my trying to state that your Political affiliation is x or y. Y? Because it’s irrelevant!

12/5 comments:
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flip, is that where they play ‘”ock-eh?
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Antaeus Feldspar, Really? If Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, or Mussolini were around, I guess you’d go after the prison guard.
Sadly for you, you resort to using a curse word as if that will somehow legitimize what you post, and you may try – you’ve already tried – to pretend that I’m trying to disrupt and shut down discussion of Burzynski’s wrongdoing. There’s no point in dignifying it with any other name.
You conveniently tu-quack.
See my above post to flipper.
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12/6 comments:
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MarkL, still no apology from Chris for misrepresenting what I posted?
Yawn.
I feel no compelling need to do what Chris requested when Chris can’t apologize for misrepresenting what I posted. So, when people pile on after Chris, and want me to do what Chris wants, well, there’s your answer!
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Alain, Cheerio!
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Science Mom, I guess being a Science Mom you would know what an acid trip is like.
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12/7 comments:
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flip, sure, the point is in the above post to MarkL.
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Narad, Black’s Law Dictionary is impressive because the Gub-ment has gone after SRB numerous times, and if their lawyers knew how to practice law, then SRB wouldn’t be where he is today if they knew how to do legal research, discovery, depositions, and present a compelling case.

12/5 comments:
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flip,
ClinicalTrialsFeeds. org., Burzynski:
http:// clinicaltrialsfeeds. org/clinical-trials/results/spons=%22Burzynski+Research+Institute%22
8/20/1994 Before the Texas State Medical Board of Medical Examiners, Stanislaw R. Burzynski, M.D., Ph.D., Docket No. 503_-_92_-_529:
www. bioethicswatch. org/pd/burzynski_txorder19940831.pdf
4/18/1995 Burzynski appears before grand jury, Houston Chronical, Ruth Sorelle, Deborah Tedford, Medical Writer Staff:
www. chron. com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl/1995_1268882/burzynski-appears-before-grand-jury.html
1997 The Dividing Line Between the Role of the FDA and the Practice of Medicine: A Historical Review and Current Analysis, Citing Burzynski:
http:// dash.harvard. edu/bitstream/handle/1/8846812/cberry.pdf?sequence=1
6/7/2001 Inspection of clinic, Dal-DO/San Antonio Resident Post, HFD-47, Good Clinical Practice Branch II, Division of Scientific Investigations, CDER (FACTS #213702):
www. circare. org/info/bri/burzynski_fda-eir_20010810.pdf
12/20/2001 inspection of institutional review board (IRB), Dal-DO/San Antonio Resident Post, HFD-47, Good Clinical Practice Branch II, Division of Scientific Investigations, CDER:
www. circare. org/info/bri/briirb_fdaeir_20020215.pdf
1/13/2009 Burzynski Research Institute Gets SPA Clearance from the FDA to Initiate Pivotal Phase III Trial of Combination Antineoplaston Therapy and Radiation Therapy, Study to Evaluate Children with Newly-Diagnosed Diffuse Intrinsic Brainstem Glioma:
www. sec. gov/Archives/edgar/data/724445/000110465909002283/a09-2965_1ex99d1.htm
10/5/2009 Warning Letter, Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Service, Food and Drug Administration:
www. fda. gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/ucm192711.htm
2/29/2012 Form 10-K, fiscal year ended:
www. sec. gov/Archives/edgar/data/724445/000110465912040430/a12-12972_110k.htm
10/18/2012 Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Service, Food and Drug Administration, Antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 Injections MA #1:
www. ratbags. com/rsoles/history/2012/1110fda_burzynski_2012.pdf
Cell Biology and Signaling
P.003
Burzynski:
http:// m.neuro-oncology.oxfordjournals. org/content/14/suppl_3/iii1.abstract?sid=e29ac3b0-44dc-4450-bad2-2ec944af1d24
Search results citing Burzynski (3):
http:// m.neuro-oncology.oxfordjournals. org/search/keywords/advanced?options[q]=search&options[author1]=S.%20Burzynski&options[sortspec]=date&options[submit]=Submit&options[numresults]=10&options[sortmethod]=0
11/2010 Cell Biology and Signaling:
http:// m.neuro-oncology.oxfordjournals. org/content/12/suppl_4/iv7.abstract?sid=95079a14-178f-4a13-b6dc-3fab4e9485da
11/2010 Ongoing Clinical Trials:
http:// m.neuro-oncology.oxfordjournals. org/content/12/suppl_4/iv69.abstract?sid=49e4f4d6-eaba-4841-9e7c-c156ddc51a80
9/2012 Abstracts:
http:// m.neuro-oncology.oxfordjournals. org/content/14/suppl_3/iii1.abstract?sid=95079a14-178f-4a13-b6dc-3fab4e9485da

@DJT

The truth is out there somewhere.

And it’s not likely anyone will find it hidden in your screeds.

DJT,

Cutting through your flim-flam, the only really important fact is that the great majority of the tumor was removed before Jodi started Bursynski’s treatment.

Look again at the medical reports here. You appear to have seriously misunderstood what they say, so allow me to explain.

On page 2 it gives the approximate length of the tumor as seen on a CT scan as 2.2 cm.

On page 3 it gives the approximate measurements of the tumor as seen on MRI, stating that “it may have a small ring of edema”, as 2.2 cm superior/inferior by 1.8 cm anterior/posterior by 1.5 cm making the volume of this tumor approximately 6 cm³.

On page 5 it gives the results of proton magnetic resonance spectroscopy and approximate measurements of the tumor as 2.67 cm x 2.02 cm x 2.55 cm which I make approximately 14 cm³.

There are 3 sets of measurements from 3 different imaging techniques which broadly agree with each other.

On page 6 it refers again to the size of the tumor estimated from the MRI, which is better at estimating size than proton magnetic resonance spectroscopy which is mainly used to establish the structure and composition of tumors, not their size.

All the above diagnostic procedures appear to have been carried out on or around 05/11/00.

On page 8 it refers to the size of the biopsy sample sent to the lab on 05/15/00. Part of this was used for a frozen section which was examined during the operation, notice it refers to “intraoperative frozen section consultation”. This means that part of the biopsy was frozen, sectioned and examined to provide the surgeon with information on what further action needed to be taken, during surgery while the patient is still on the table. Frozen sections are only done when further surgery may be necessary depending on the results.

Since the intraoperative consultation reports “high grade glioma” it is highly likely that further surgery was carried out and more of the tumor was removed. This is supported by the following information in Jodi’s records.

On page 10 it gives the result of an MRI performed on 06/01/00 which found the volume of the tumor was 0.17 cm³.

On page 12, in a letter to Burzynski we are told that Jodi, “began antineoplaston therapy on June 6 2000”. The letter also mentions a brain FDG PET scan done on June 8 2000 that was “consistent with no residual neoplasm”.

To summarize the relevant information:

Pre-op tumor size by MRI on May 11 approximately 6 cm³.
Post-op tumor size by MRI on June 1 approximately 0.17 cm³.
Antineoplastons started June 6.
Tumor undetectable by PET scan on June 8.

So almost all the tumor had disappeared several days before the patient even started Burzynski’s treatment, and all of it had gone two days after treatment was started. The most likely explanation is that the tumor was removed during surgery, and the residual 0.17 cm³ seen on MRI was post-op inflammation. Burzynski’s treatment cannot possibly have had anything to do with this.

Diddums,

Chris merely requested that you fulfill the basic minimum requirement for arguing in support of the brave maverick – that you provide real evidence to support your argument.

Not journalistic puff-pieces, not advertising, not anecdote, REAL DATA. Strawmen, tu quoque arguments, Onus probandi, Gish gallops, Appeals to accomplishment and other logical fallacies are not going to get you any traction here either.

Burzynski is a fraud, and unless you have some hard evidence to the contrary (you don’t, even Burzynski himself doesn’t have that), you are a fraud too for insisting that the “brave maverick” Doctor is anything other than a snake-oil salesman.

Looking again at Jodi Fenton’s medical records as presented, the only thing that makes sense is that there’s a histopathology report missing. Somewhere there must be a histopathology report on the tumor that was removed after the surgeon was given the frozen section results. That report would include information on whether the tumor had clean margins or not.

Tumors don’t just disappear after being biopsied, and the only reason the surgeon ordered a frozen section was to find out if the mass he or she had biopsied was malignant. As it was malignant and the surgeon was informed of this intraoperatively, he or she would surely have done his/her best to remove the tumor. Anyone with more specialized knowledge than I care to comment on this?

Also, the letter from an unnamed person at OncoImaging P.A. refers to “the series of brain MRI examinations”, but also to “each of the MRI examinations” as if there were only sent two. They then refer to “the initial study in June” (my emphasis) […] “showed two foci of enhancement. These lesions subsequently resolved, a finding consistent with a complete response to therapy”.

Clearly this person was not sent the initial MRI taken on May 11 at all. They were asked to evaluate the post-op MRI taken on June 1 that showed some residual post-op inflammation, a PET scan from June 8, and a subsequent MRI that showed no mass at all. From the letter it is clear that they were not fully aware of what they were looking at, and were not shown the initial MRI that showed a 6 cm³ tumor at all. Isn’t that more than a little dishonest?

Antaeus Feldspar, Really? If Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, or Mussolini were around, I guess you’d go after the prison guard.

It’s obvious that it’s not an either-or situation, where either you go after the dictator who’s killed millions or you go after the individual perpetrator whose crimes may have shown depraved indifference to the welfare of others but whose crimes didn’t affect as numerically large a group of people.

Which means it just comes right back to your premise “You shouldn’t talk about A doing wrong if B did something worse.” That premise is crap, it’s always been crap, and the fact that you keep trying to push that crap shows your true nature.

Sadly for you, you resort to using a curse word as if that will somehow legitimize what you post,

Actually, I’m just keeping in mind what an old friend of mine once said. He said the most devastating insult is actually “You’re stupid,” because the minute you start crafting a wittier, more intellectually elegant response, you’re implicitly saying that the other person’s nonsense requires some sort of sophisticated intellectual counter.

“A shouldn’t be criticized because B is worse” does not need a sophisticated intellectual counter. It was countered millenia ago. It’s bullshit plain and simple. End of story. It may be the only move you have available to you, but that’s what happens when you defend a creep like Burzynski.

I think it’s time for an ultimatum question; it’s often the only way to deal with Gish gallopers like you.

Here’s how it works: we ask you a question. If you post three comments, on this thread or any other, without giving an answer to the question, you will be treated as having answered it, in a way you probably won’t like.

The question is this: Burzynski claims to be conducting clinical trials, testing out a treatment that has clinical equipoise (that is, it may or may not work or might even potentially make things worse; not knowing which it is is why we are doing trials.) If he was truly doing clinical trials, then the people who agree to be his subjects in the trials are doing him a great service, putting their precious remaining years or months of life at risk so that his treatment can be tested; they should certainly be receiving some compensation for the risk they are taking to test out his putative treatment. But as we all know, Burzynski actually charges his patients five and six figures to be in his trials; hell, you have to pay him just to get him to consider whether you’d be a suitable subject for his trials.

What possible justification can there be for Burzynski to be charging such exorbitant sums when a) the patient is the one providing something of value, b) the very fact of charging such huge amounts actually taints any data that theoretically might come out of the trials, since it excludes people who aren’t rich and can’t do effective fundraising from the study population?

If you don’t give us your answer within your next three comments, it will be taken as you answering: “Burzynski’s trials are just a ruse so that he can sell his ‘treatment’ without having to ever prove it works, and that’s okay because Burzynski shouldn’t have to follow the same rules that restrict everyone else.”

MarkL:

Chris merely requested that you fulfill the basic minimum requirement for arguing in support of the brave maverick – that you provide real evidence to support your argument.

Is he still going on about me? I haven’t noticed because part of ignoring the troll is to just scroll past his screeds.

I can just assume he has not posted the one Burzynski paper that shows clinical trial results that are as good as a conventional cancer treatment like Gleevec, with direct quotes clearly explaining the results. The latter being proof he actually read the paper he is citing.

I find it hilarious that the NG ad server is posting all kinds of ads for medical malpractice lawyers on this page! The ad server picks up the context of the discussion and serves up the ads it deems germane to the subject. (Like the MMS banner ads that popped up on the MMS thread, or the alkaline water machine ads I see here all the time.) Except it’s ironic in this case.

I wonder how much Stan pays for malpractice insurance. Oh, right, probably nothing, as he doesn’t treat or see patients based on this TMB ruling.

He will throw his own staff under the bus if push comes to shove, though. They all must carry huge coverage.

I wonder if anyone has ever tried the medical malpractice route with Stan or do his waivers protect him from liability?

Narad, Black’s Law Dictionary is impressive because the Gub-ment has gone after SRB numerous times, and if their lawyers knew how to practice law, then SRB wouldn’t be where he is today if they knew how to do legal research, discovery, depositions, and present a compelling case.

No, sorry. The invocation merely indicates that you are completely unable to summon a single thoughtful comment on the subject of law and probably wouldn’t be able to recognize one even if it dropped out of the sky scrawled on a 16-ton weight. (Actually, given that you did it twice in one text-evacuation, “incantation” might be a better choice of words.)

@Narad

The invocation merely indicates that you are completely unable to summon a single thoughtful comment on the subject of law and probably wouldn’t be able to recognize one even if it dropped out of the sky scrawled on a 16-ton weight.

I guess his ‘thoughtful’ comment about the law was reserved for me, and his insightful insistence that all non-native Australians are descended from criminals.

I have a comment with an ultimatum question for Diddums; however, because I used a bad word, the comment is being held for moderation.

Just to clarify, I don’t think any comments DJT may post before my comment is actually released should count towards his three. It may be hard, however, to work out exactly when the comment came out of moderation and which of DJT’s fewmets came afterward.

Burzynski claims to be conducting clinical trials, testing out a treatment that has clinical equipoise

What factors would distinguish between between a physician using what they might call ‘off-label medications as treatments’ and a physician conducting studies and trials with the same medications on their patients? If they are using the drugs off-label, and no studies have been done to evidence their effectiveness in a given condition, what’s the difference? If the physician calls them “studies”, would that be relevant?

I guess his ‘thoughtful’ comment about the law was reserved for me

Nah, he tossed the same laughable posturing at Krebiozen in the same bowl of wilted word salad.

I like transposing words to make people think.

Yes, it certainly brings certain thoughts to the minds of onlookers. So does sticking pencils up one’s nostrils and saying “wibble”.

I would note that DJT abruptly switched away from Katherine Lee Bates to the Field Artillery March just as he arrived at the fruited plain.

Orac blogs near the top:
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“The documentary was awful, full of biased misinformation and overall just a plain bad movie.”
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Let’s examine Orac’s statement, shall we?
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1:44:44 – 1:44:52 of the Ducumentary displays:
“None of the oncologists who originally diagnosed each patient presented in this film would agree to go on-camera, or submit a written statement.”
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Garden State Film Festival, New Jersey
http://www.app.com/article/20100321/ENT01/100320023/Garden-State-Film-Fest-moviegoers-delight?nclick_check=1
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Newport Beach Film Festival, California
Humanitarian Vision Award 2010
http:// newportbeachfilmfest. blogspot. com/2010/04/update-burzynski-2nd-screening-added_25.html?m=1

http:// blog. bigmoviezone. com/docs/awards2010.pdf

http://www.kpfa.org/events/burzynski-movie-fda-big-pharma-fight-doctor-who-has-cancer-cure
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Palm Beach Film Festival
http://www.pbifilmfest.org/past_festivals/2010/documentaries/burzynski
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Winner! Audience Award Best Documentary! documentary channel, 2011
http:// blog. documentarychannel. com/post/15572363380/space-tourists-and-burzynski-cancer-is-serious

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1752221/pg1
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Winner! National Audience Award, HumanDoc Festival, Warsaw, Poland, 2011

Winner! Warsaw Audience Award, HumanDoc Festival, Warsaw, Poland, 2011
http://festival.humandoc.net/25?lang=en
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Moondance International Film Festival
Feature Documentary Film Semi-Finalist 2011
http://www.moondancefilmfestival.com/02_festival.winners_film.html
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San Luis Obispo International Film Festival, California
http://www.visitslo.com/cm/Releases/Release-FilmFest.html
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ALIVE Documentary Award, New York
https:// docs. google. com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:4TdKU8yqn4oJ:www.alivenewyork.org/uploads/1/0/3/3/10338129/aliveawardsfinal.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESi5cq6TtHVuyWQzVSbig8CHTiQAkAuTEiU-p2jYGOChV6hKmG3YuHSQgLAakM-Eli9RmDuDX0nQ22Nkz2lzT9bG-CIJTj5p52AMKwzmvAwqluSr6fpgziQzhXNERoIq6YkF6wtO&sig=AHIEtbSBvfjNFC9q281gTaotgApRk1WEwQ

@Narad

Nah, he tossed the same laughable posturing at Krebiozen in the same bowl of wilted word salad.

Where?

@ DJT:

Seriously, do you really think that winning awards at *film festivals* is a measure of what is accurate? It has more to do with technical achievements and- possibly- audience appeal, i.e. it sells its message well. The people who judge these things are in the field: they create and work on films ( like my cousin who creates ‘movie magic’), and for some awards ( audience choice), are the general public who viewed the film. It has nothing to do with science or medicine.

For example, Gary Null, who never met a pseudo-science hypothesis that he didn’t like- or try to promote- has won a plethora of awards at various festivals around the world ( see his websites for a list: Gary Null.com/ Progressiveradionetwork) for his films that:
discuss the link between vaccines and autism,
deny the realtionship between hiv and aids,
promote nutrition-based cures for cancer,
frighten people away from psychiatric meds for learning disabilities and mental illness in children,
state that SBM is the cause of death in hundreds of thousands each year,
as well as other social and environmental issues, including using the difficulties of veterans, poverty and AGW as avenues for self-promotion.
NONE of his so-called scientific essays hold any water in the real world.

I forget: is DJT being *neutral* towards Burzyinski, or not? Because he does seem to be going out of his way to defend him…

Seriously, do you really think that winning awards at *film festivals* is a measure of what is accurate?

Hey, it works for Anne Dachel.

It has more to do with technical achievements and- possibly- audience appeal, i.e. it sells its message well. The people who judge these things are in the field: they create and work on films

One wonders if DJT believes in the accuracy of every advertisement that won a Lion Award from the marketing industry.

12/7 Comments:
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herr doktor bimler, Bill Price has noticed as be pointed out to you, above.
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al kimeea, did you drop LSD like a bad habit?
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Krebiozen, I’m disappointed you hadn’t figured out that I’m responding in order by date & even listing the date since 12/6!
Bill Price has noticed Orac’s comments on other sites.
Well, it’s either Orac posting elsewhere or people quoting him.
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flip, as Comedian Bill Engvall says: “Here’s Your Sign!”
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JGC, because your 12/3 (6th post of that day) post & my 12/4 (8th post of that day) response to you which you had no comment for, which makes me think that you are Anonymous, since if you replied it most have been Anonymously.

I notice all these posts that say SRB does not publish, but who reads between the lines & pays attention to my post mentioned above to MarkL (right after the post to you), the 1st link re the SRB 10-K, which under:

“Table of Contents, FORWARD LOOKING STATEMENTS,” mentions:

“clinical trials.”

“ITEM 1, BUSINESS, General” mentions:

“currently conducting Phase II clinical trials,” and further down is a section re:

Phase II Clinical Trials,” “The Company began Phase II clinical studies in 1994 with 4 studies.

“At that time, a number of patients were also receiving Antineoplastons … outside these clinical trials.”

“On February 23, 1996, the FDA requested that all then-current patients of the Burzynski Clinic desiring to continue Antineoplaston treatment be admitted to a Phase II Study, according to Protocol CAN-1.”

This action resulted in the formation of 6 cohorts of patients in the CAN-1 study, with the largest group suffering from primary brain tumors.

New patients either were admitted to the CAN-1 study or have been admitted to 1 of the other studies sponsored by the Company, as appropriate.

The Company currently sponsors 1 ongoing Phase II clinical trial that is open for enrollment, which is conducted pursuant to investigational new drug applications (“INDs”) filed with the FDA & approved by an Institutional Review Board (“IRB”) designated according to federal regulations.

“All clinical trials are for the treatment of a wide variety of cancers using only a combination of Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1.”

“Most of the trials involve the use of intravenous formulations of Antineoplastons; however, a few trials use oral formulations.”

“Dr. Burzynski acts as principal investigator for all clinical trials …”

“All of the clinical trials are conducted at the Burzynski Clinic.”

Each trial provides for the admission of up to 40 patients, except the CAN-1 study, in which 133 patients were enrolled.

“Please see “—Active Phase II Clinical Trials” for a list of all of these clinical trials.”

Prior to approving a New Drug Application (“NDA”), the FDA requires that a drug’s safety & efficacy be demonstrated in “well-controlled” clinical trials.

Several types of controls are acceptable to the FDA. 1 of these is a “Historic Control.”

“Under a Historic Control if the course of a disease is well-known, the response of patients taking a drug can be compared to a historic group of patients with that disease who have not had medical intervention.”

“For example, it is known that the tumors of patients suffering from primary malignant brain tumors (“PMBT”) will continue to grow, eventually causing the patient’s death.”

If a drug is administered to a patient with PMBT & the tumors of the patient disappear or shrink significantly, an assumption is made that there has been a response to the drug.

All of the Company’s clinical trials, except 1, involve the use of Historic Controls.

“Further, all trials except the CAN-1 study are “prospective clinical trials” (“PCT”).”

A PCT is a clinical trial wherein patients are accrued into & follow the clinical trial protocol from the very beginning of the trial.

“A retrospective trial is a trial in which data from patients treated prior to the start of a clinical trial is considered. Results of retrospective trials are, in most instances, not acceptable to the FDA. ”

In addition, there are no clinical trials being conducted that involve “double blind” studies & all but 1 clinical trial involve no randomization into multiple treatment groups.

“The ultimate goal of any treatment for cancer is patient survival.”

“However, the FDA has determined that requiring exhaustive data showing improved patient survival may unnecessarily delay the approval of new cancer drugs.”

For that reason, the FDA may grant marketing approval for a new drug product on the basis of adequate & well-controlled clinical trials establishing that the drug has an effect on a surrogate endpoint (“Milestone”) that is reasonably likely to predict clinical benefit.

“Each of the Company’s Phase II trials describes such Milestones which are used to determine success or failure of the treatment employed.”

“In most of the trials, the Milestones are radiographic evidence of tumor shrinkage by X-ray, computer aided tomography or magnetic resonance imaging.”

“Where appropriate, tumor markers such as Prostate Specific Antigen, blood counts, or bone marrow biopsy are used in order to assess a tumor’s growth.”

Where tumor size is used as the Milestone, each clinical trial protocol that is open for enrollment describes a “complete response” as a complete disappearance of all tumors with no reoccurrence of tumors for at least 4 weeks.

A “partial response” is described as at least a 50% reduction in total tumor size, with such reduction lasting at least 4 weeks.

“An “objective response” is described as either a complete or partial response for protocols BT-06, BT-08, BT-09, BT-10, BT-11, BT-12, BT-13, BT-15, BT-18, BT-21, BT-22 & BT-23.”

Stable disease” is described as less than 50% reduction in size but no more than 50% increase in size of the tumor mass, lasting for at least 12 weeks.

The protocols of the Company’s clinical trials involve a 2-stage design, wherein the 1st stage proceeds until the Company admits 20 patients into the trial.

After a specified time period, if there are 0 responses by the 1st 20 patients, the trial will be discontinued & the drug declared to have less than desired activity.

If there is at least 1 response, the trial will be continued until 40 patients have been accrued. If the study continues, the following conclusions according to protocols based on 40 patients
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For the fiscal year ended 2/29/2012

As of 8/30/2011, the aggregate market value of the Common Stock held by non-affiliates was approximately $4,471,802, based on the last reported sales price of the Registrant’s most recently completed 2nd fiscal quarter. For purposes of this disclosure, shares of Common Stock held by persons who hold more than 5% of the outstanding shares of common stock & shares held by officers & directors of the registrant have been excluded as such persons may be deemed to be affiliates.

As of 5/ 1/2012, there were 131,448,444 shares of the Registrant’s Common Stock outstanding.
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“FORWARD LOOKING STATEMENTS”

This report contains forward-looking statements, including statements regarding future financial performance & results &other statements that are not historical facts. Such statements are included in “Business,” “Management’s Discussion & Analysis of Financial Condition & Results of Operations” & elsewhere in this report. When used in this report, words such as “may,” “will,” “should,” “could,” “anticipate,” “believe,” “expect,” “estimate,” “intend,” “plan,” “predict,” “potential,” “continue” & similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, & Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended. Although the Company believes that the expectations reflected in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, there can be no assurance that actual results or developments anticipated by the Company will be realized or, even if realized, that they will have the expected effects on its business or operations. Actual results could differ materially from those contemplated by the forward-looking statements as a result of certain factors beyond the Company’s control including: the ability to develop safe & efficacious drugs, the failure to achieve positive clinical trials, the failure to successfully commercialize our products, competition & technological change existing and future regulations affecting our business.
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1. BUSINESS

General

Burzynski Research Institute, Inc. was incorporated under the laws of the State of Delaware in 1984 in order to engage in the research, production, marketing, promotion & sale of certain medical chemical compounds composed of growth-inhibiting peptides, amino & derivatives & organic acids which are known under the trade name “Antineoplastons.” The Company believes Antineoplastons are useful in the treatment of human cancer & is currently conducting Phase II clinical trials of Antineoplastons relating to the treatment of cancer. Antineoplastons have not been approved for sale or use by the Food and Drug Administration of the US Department of Health &Human Services (“FDA”) or anywhere in the world. In the event Antineoplastons receive such approval & are registered in the US, Canada, or Mexico, of which there can be no assurance, the Company will commence commercial operations, which shall include the production, marketing, promotion & sale of Antineoplastons in the US, Canada, or Mexico. In 2004, the FDA approved the designation of Antineoplastons as an “orphan drug” under the Orphan Drug Act of 1983. See “Orphan Drug Designation” below for a detailed description of this designation & its meaning. The Company currently provides Antineoplastons solely for use by Stanislaw R. Burzynski, M.D., Ph.D. (“Dr. Burzynski”) in clinical research.

The Company has not generated any significant operating revenue since its inception. The Company’s sole source of funding for its operations has been & continues to be payments made by Dr. Burzynski from funds generated from Dr. Burzynski’s medical practice pursuant to various arrangements between the Company & Dr. Burzynski. See “Certain Relationships & Related Transactions, & Director Independence.” The Company reports funds pursuant to such arrangements as additional paid-in capital. See “Management’s Discussion & Analysis of Financial Condition & Results of Operations.” The Company does not expect to generate significant operating revenue until such time, if any, as Antineoplastons are approved for use & sale by the FDA. However, the Company may seek additional funding for operations through the sale of its securities.
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Antineoplastons

Dr. Burzynski commenced his cancer research in 1967 focusing on the isolation of various biochemicals produced by the human body as part of the body’s possible defense against cancer. In the course of his research, Dr. Burzynski identified certain peptides, amino acid derivatives & organic acids in these biochemicals which appear to inhibit the growth of cancer cells. These derivatives were given the name “Antineoplastons” by Dr. Burzynski.

Antineoplastons are found in the bodily fluids of humans & food & were initially isolated by Dr. Burzynski from normal human blood & urine. Dr. Burzynski believes these substances counteract the development of cancerous growth through a biochemical process which does not inhibit the growth of normal tissues. To date, Dr. Burzynski has developed 6 formulations of natural Antineoplastons & 6 synthetic formulations of Antineoplastons. All of the Phase II clinical trials currently sponsored by the Company involve the use of 4 formulations of synthetic Antineoplastons known as A10 & AS2-1 in capsules & injections. The Company is also conducting laboratory research involving new generations of Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1.
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Orphan Drug Designation

On 9/3/2004, the FDA granted the Company’s request for “orphan drug designation” (“ODD”) for the Company’s Antineoplastons (A10 & AS2-1 Antineoplaston) for treatment for patients with brain stem glioma &, on 10/30/2008, the FDA granted the Company’s request for ODD for Antineoplastons (A10 & AS2-1 Antineoplaston) for the treatment of gliomas. In enacting the Orphan Drug Act of 1983, Congress sought to provide incentives to promote the development of drugs for the treatment of rare diseases. A drug may be considered for orphan drug designation if the drug is intended to treat a rare disease or condition affecting fewer than 200,000 people in the US or, even if the drug treats a disease affecting more than 200,000 people in the US, the drug is not expected to be profitable from sales in the US. Subject to applicable laws & regulations, the first sponsor to obtain FDA marketing approval for a drug with orphan drug designation for the designated disease or condition receives limited marketing exclusivity for 7 years; no other sponsor may bring to market the “same drug” for the treatment of the same disease or condition for a period of 7years from the date the application is approved by the FDA. A drug with orphan drug designation must meet the same criteria for safety & efficacy as a drug without orphan drug designation.

Please see “Government Regulation” for a description of the regulatory approval process with the FDA & other regulatory agencies.
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Phase II Clinical Trials

The Company began Phase II clinical studies in 1994 with 4 studies. At that time, a number of patients were also receiving Antineoplastons at Dr. Burzynski’s clinic … outside these clinical trials. On 2/23/1996, the FDA requested that all then-current patients of the Burzynski Clinic desiring to continue Antineoplaston treatment be admitted to a Phase II Study, according to Protocol CAN-1. This action resulted in the formation of 6 cohorts of patients in the CAN-1 study, with the largest group suffering from primary brain tumors. New patients either were admitted to the CAN-1 study or have been admitted to 1 of the other studies sponsored by the Company, as appropriate.

The Company currently sponsors one ongoing Phase II clinical trial that is open for enrollment, which is conducted pursuant to investigational new drug applications (“INDs”) filed with the FDA & approved by an Institutional Review Board (“IRB”) designated according to federal regulations.

All clinical trials are for the treatment of a wide variety of cancers using only a combination of Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1. Most of the trials involve the use of intravenous formulations of Antineoplastons; however, a few trials use oral formulations. Dr. Burzynski acts as principal investigator for all clinical trials pursuant to a Royalty Agreement between the Company & Dr. Burzynski. See “Certain Relationships &Related Transactions, & Director Independence.” All of the clinical trials are conducted at the Burzynski Clinic. Each trial provides for the admission of up to 40 patients, except the CAN-1 study, in which 133 patients were enrolled. Please see “—Active Phase II Clinical Trials” for a list of all of these clinical trials.

Prior to approving a New Drug Application (“NDA”), the FDA requires that a drug’s safety & efficacy be demonstrated in “well-controlled” clinical trials. Several types of controls are acceptable to the FDA. One of these is a “Historic Control.” Under a Historic Control if the course of a disease is well-known, the response of patients taking a drug can be compared to a historic group of patients with that disease who have not had medical intervention. For example, it is known that the tumors of patients suffering from primary malignant brain tumors (“PMBT”) will continue to grow, eventually causing the patient’s death. If a drug is administered to a patient with PMBT &the tumors of the patient disappear or shrink significantly, an assumption is made that there has been a response to the drug.

All of the Company’s clinical trials, except 1, involve the use of Historic Controls. Further, all trials except the CAN-1 study are “prospective clinical trials” (“PCT”). A PCT is a clinical trial wherein patients are accrued into & follow the clinical trial protocol from the very beginning of the trial. A retrospective trial is a trial in which data from patients treated prior to the start of a clinical trial is considered. Results of retrospective trials are, in most instances, not acceptable to the FDA. In addition, there are no clinical trials being conducted that involve “double blind” studies & all but one clinical trial involve no randomization into multiple treatment groups.

The ultimate goal of any treatment for cancer is patient survival. However, the FDA has determined that requiring exhaustive data showing improved patient survival may unnecessarily delay the approval of new cancer drugs. For that reason, the FDA may grant marketing approval for a new drug product on the basis of adequate & well-controlled clinical trials establishing that the drug has an effect on a surrogate endpoint (“Milestone”) that is reasonably likely to predict clinical benefit. Each of the Company’s Phase II trials describes such Milestones which are used to determine success or failure of the treatment employed. In most of the trials, the Milestones are radiographic evidence of tumor shrinkage by X-ray, computer aided tomography or magnetic resonance imaging. Where appropriate, tumor markers such as Prostate Specific Antigen, blood counts, or bone marrow biopsy are used in order to assess a tumor’s growth.

Where tumor size is used as the Milestone, each clinical trial protocol that is open for enrollment describes a “complete response” as a complete disappearance of all tumors with no reoccurrence of tumors for at least 4 weeks. A “partial response” is described as at least a 50% reduction in total tumor size, with such reduction lasting at least 4 weeks. An “objective response” is described as either a complete or partial response for protocols BT-06, BT-08, BT-09, BT-10, BT-11, BT-12, BT-13, BT-15, BT-18, BT-21, BT-22 and BT-23. “Stable disease” is described as less than 50% reduction in size but no more than 50% increase in size of the tumor mass, lasting for at least 12 weeks.

The protocols of the Company’s clinical trials involve a 2-stage design, wherein the 1st stage proceeds until the Company admits 20 patients into the trial. After a specified time period, if there are 0 responses by the 1st 20 patients, the trial will be discontinued & the drug declared to have less than desired activity. If there is at least 1 response, the trial will be continued until 40 patients have been accrued. If the study continues, the following conclusions according to protocols based on 40 patients can be made: If there are 3 or fewer responses, then there is less than desired activity. If there are 4 or more responses, then there is sufficient evidence to conclude that the Antineoplaston regimen used shows beneficial activity.
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Certain prospective protocols which have reached a Milestone as of 5/1/2012:

· Protocol BT-06, involving the study of Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 in children with high grade glioma.

· Protocol BT-07, involving the study of Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 in patients with glioblastoma multiforme, not treated with radiation therapy or chemotherapy.

· Protocol BT-08, involving the study of Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 in patients with anaplastic astrocytoma.

· Protocol BT-09, involving the study of Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 in patients with brain tumors.

· Protocol BT-10, involving the study of Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 in children with brain tumors.

· Protocol BT-11, involving the study of Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 in patients with brainstem glioma.

· Protocol BT-12, involving the study of Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 in children with primitive neuroectodermal tumors (PNET).

· Protocol BT-13, involving the study of Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 in children with low grade astrocytoma, a type of PMBT.

· Protocol BT-15, involving the study of Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 in adult patients with anaplastic astrocytoma, a type of PMBT.

· Protocol BT-18, involving a study of Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 in the treatment of “mixed glioma,” a type of PMBT.

· Protocol BT-20, involving the study of Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 in patients with glioblastoma multiforme, which recurred after standard radiation and/or chemotherapy.

· Protocol BT-21, involving the study of Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 in adults with primary malignant brain tumors.

· Protocol BT-22, involving a study of Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 in children with primary malignant brain tumors.

· Protocol BT-23, involving a study of Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 in children with visual pathway glioma.
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The results of Protocols BT-06, BT-07, BT-08, BT-09, BT-10, BT-11, BT-12, BT-13, BT-15, BT-18, BT-20, BT-21, BT-22 and BT-23 are set forth below (as of 5/1/2012).

Protocol # / Patients Accrued / Evaluable Patients / # &% of Patients Showing Complete Response / # & % of Patients Showing Partial Response / # & % of Patients Showing Stable Disease / # & % of Patients Showing Progressive Disease

BT-06 / 19 / 11 / 1 / 9.1% / 3 / 27.3% / 3 / 27.3% / 4 / 36.4%
BT-07 / 40 / 24 / 2 / 8.3% / 1 / 4.2% / 3 / 12.5% / 18 / 75.0%
BT-08 / 19 / 14 / 4 / 28.6% / 0 / 0.0% / 6 / 42.9% / 4 / 28.6%
BT-09 / 40 / 28 / 4 / 14.3% / 5 / 17.9% / 13 / 46.4% / 6 / 21.4%
BT-10 / 30 / 22 / 3 / 13.6% / 1 / 4.5% / 7 / 31.8% / 11 / 50.0%
BT-11 / 40 / 28 / 5 / 17.9% / 4 / 14.3% / 12 /42.9% / 7 / 25.0%
BT-12 / 13 / 11 / 3 / 27.3% / 1 / 9.1% / 3 / 27.3% / 4 / 36.4%
BT-13 / 17 / 14 / 6 / 42.9% / 1 / 7.1% / 5 / 35.7% / 2 / 14.3%
BT-15 / 27 / 20 / 3 / 15.0% / 2 / 10.0% / 9 / 45.0% / 6 / 30.0%
BT-18 / 20 / 13 / 3 / 23.1% / 1 / 7.7% / 3 / 23.1% / 6 / 46.2%
BT-20 / 40 / 22 / 1 / 4.5% / 1 / 4.5% / 12 / 54.5% / 8 / 36.4%
BT-21 / 40 / 23 / 2 / 8.7% / 2 / 8.7% / 9 /
39.1% / 10 / 43.5%
BT-22 / 40 / 24 / 1 / 4.2% /3 / 12.5% / 9 / 37.5% / 11 / 45.8%
BT-23 / 16 / 12 / 3 / 25% / 2 / 16.7% / 6 / 50.0% / 1 / 8.3%
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The Phase II Study according to Protocol CAN-1 included 35 evaluable brain tumor patients. Complete & partial responses were obtained in patients diagnosed with glioblastoma multiforme, astrocytoma, oligodendroglioma, mixed glioma, medulloblastoma, & malignant meningioma. The treatment with Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 resulted in 48.6% cases of objective responses & 31.4% cases of stable disease. The largest group of evaluable patients involved in the study had glioblastoma multiforme. 6 of the cases were classified as complete & partial responses, 4 obtained stabilization & 4 developed progression of the disease.

Notwithstanding the response results of the trials that have reached a Milestone, management believes it is likely that the FDA may require additional clinical trials based upon such protocols to be conducted by an institution not affiliated with the Company or Dr. Burzynski before advising that an NDA filing is warranted. In addition, the FDA has indicated it will not accept the efficacy data, but will accept toxicity data generated by the Phase II study according to Protocol CAN-1 because the trial was partially retrospective. At this time, the Company cannot predict if and/or when it will submit an NDA to the FDA, nor can the Company estimate the number or type of additional trials the FDA may require. Further, there can be no assurance that an NDA for Antineoplastons, as a treatment for cancer, will ever be approved by the FDA.

No assurance can be given that any new IND for clinical tests on humans will be approved by the FDA for human clinical trials on cancer or other diseases, that the results of such human clinical trials will prove that Antineoplastons are safe or effective in the treatment of cancer or other diseases, or that the FDA would approve the sale of Antineoplastons in the US.
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Open for Enrollment Phase II Clinical Trials

The following table sets forth the title of each active Protocol & the # of persons currently enrolled in each study. All of the following trials are Phase II studies &, except as otherwise indicated, are of Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 in patients with the conditions listed. For purposes of this table, active means that the study is still under open enrollment. In addition, all of the studies listed have a maximum of 40 patients who may ultimately participate in the study. The information in this table is updated as of 5/1/2012.

Title of Protocol / Subject of Protocol / # of Persons Enrolled / BT-10 / Children with Brain Tumors / 30
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Phase III Clinical Trials

On 1/13/2009, the Company announced that it has reached an agreement with the FDA that enables the Company to move forward immediately with a pivotal Phase III clinical trial of combination Antineoplaston therapy plus radiation therapy in patients with newly-diagnosed, diffuse, intrinsic brainstem glioma. The agreement was made under the FDA’s Special Protocol Assessment procedure & means that the design & planned analysis of the Phase III study is acceptable to support a regulatory submission seeking new drug approval.

On 2/23/2010, the Company entered into an agreement with Cycle Solutions, Inc., dba ResearchPoint (“Research Point”) to initiate & manage a pivotal Phase III clinical trial of combination Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 plus radiation therapy (RT) in patients with newly-diagnosed, diffuse, intrinsic brainstem glioma. Research Point has secured interest & commitments from a # of sites selected. Upon completion of this assessment, a randomized, international Phase III study will commence. The study’s objective is to compare overall survival of children with newly-diagnosed, diffuse, intrinsic brainstem glioma (DBSG) who receive combination Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 plus RT versus RT alone.
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Government Regulation

The FDA imposes substantial requirements upon, & conditions precedent to, the introduction of therapeutic drug products to the marketplace. Seeking marketing authorization for a new drug is a lengthy, complex, & costly process. To seek FDA approval for Antineoplastons, we must first complete extensive preclinical & clinical research, & submit data from this research & supporting information to the FDA to demonstrate that the use of Antineoplastons for the indication sought meets the statutory standards for safety & effectiveness, manufacturing & controls, & labeling.

The approval process takes many years, requires the expenditure of substantial resources & may involve ongoing requirements for post-marketing studies. Additional government regulation may be established that could prevent or delay regulatory approval of Antineoplastons. Moreover, there can be no assurance that the Company can satisfy FDA requirements to gain approval for Antineoplastons in the US or that FDA approval for the sale of Antineoplastons in the US will be obtained. If regulatory approval is granted, the approval may include significant limitations on the indicated uses for which Antineoplastons may be marketed.

The effect of the FDA drug approval process for Antineoplastons may impose costly procedures upon the Company’s activities which may furnish a competitive advantage to the other companies that compete with the Company in the field of cancer treatment drugs. The extent of potentially adverse government regulations which might arise from future legislation or administrative action cannot be predicted.

The Investigational New Drug Application Process in the US is governed by regulations established by the FDA which strictly control the use & distribution of investigational drugs in the US. The guidelines require that an IND, filed by a sponsor, contain sufficient information to justify administering the drug to humans, that the application include relevant information on the chemistry, pharmacology & toxicology of the drug derived from chemical, laboratory & animal or in vitro testing, & that a protocol be provided for the initial study of the new drug to be conducted on humans.

In order to conduct a clinical trial of a new drug in humans, a sponsor must prepare & submit to the FDA a comprehensive IND. Such application must contain an investigator’s brochure, a description of the composition, manufacture & control of the drug substance & the drug product, sufficient information to assure the proper identification, quality, purity & strength of the investigational drug, a description of the drug substance, including its physical, chemical, & biological characteristics, the general method of preparation of the drug substance, a list of all components including interactive ingredients, adequate information about pharmacological & toxicological studies of the drug involving laboratory animals or in vitro tests on the basis of which the sponsor has concluded that it is reasonably safe to conduct the proposed clinical investigation & a summary of any previous human experience with the drug. Where there has been widespread use of the drug outside of the US or otherwise, it is possible in some limited circumstances to use well-documented clinical experience in place of some other pre-clinical work.

The focal point of the IND is on the general investigational plan & the protocols for specific human studies. The sponsor of the study is subject to numerous requirements for the proper conduct & oversight of the study, including the protection of human subjects. The plan is carried out in 3 phases, & earlier phase trials are not necessarily predictive of results in later clinical trials. Phase I includes the initial introduction of an investigational new drug into humans & may be conducted in patients or normal volunteer subjects. The studies are closely monitored to determine the metabolism & pharmacologic actions of the drug in humans, the potential side effects &, if possible, to gain early evidence on effectiveness. During Phase I testing, sufficient information about the drug is gathered to design well-controlled, scientifically valid Phase II studies. Phase II includes controlled clinical studies conducted to evaluate the effectiveness of the drug for a particular indication in patients with the disease or condition under study & to determine the common short-term side effects & risks associated with the drug. Phase II studies are controlled, closely monitored & conducted in a relatively small # of patients, usually involving no more than several 100 subjects. Phase III includes expanded controlled & uncontrolled trials & are intended to gather the additional information about effectiveness & safety that is needed to evaluate the overall benefit-risk relationship of the drug & to provide an adequate basis for physician labeling. Phase III studies usually include anywhere from several 100 to several 1,000 subjects.

An IND will automatically become effective 30 days after receipt by the FDA, unless before that time the FDA raises concerns about issues such as the conduct of the trials as outlined in the IND. After the IND becomes effective, the investigation is permitted to proceed, during which the sponsor must keep the FDA informed of new studies, including animal studies, make progress reports on the study or studies covered by the IND, and also be responsible for informing FDA & clinical investigators immediately of unforeseen serious side effects or injuries. There can be no assurance that Phase I, Phase II or Phase III testing will be completed successfully by the Company within any specified period of time, if at all. Furthermore, the Company or the FDA may suspend clinical trials at any time on various grounds, including a finding that the subjects or patients are being exposed to an unacceptable health risk.

Assuming successful completion of the clinical studies, the results of the studies, together with other detailed information, including, among other information, details concerning the manufacture & composition of the drug, proposed labeling, environmental impact & the scientific rationale for the drug, its intended use & the potential benefits of the drug product, are submitted to the FDA in the form of an NDA requesting approval to market the drug. If the FDA finds the NDA submission & the manufacturing process to be acceptable & to meet the criteria for approval, the FDA will issue an approval letter. If the FDA determines that an NDA cannot be approved as submitted, it will send the applicant a “Complete Response” letter to indicate that the review cycle for an application is complete & that the application is not ready for approval, & describing specific deficiencies. In addition to the postmarketing requirements that apply to all marketed drugs, FDA may impose, as a condition of approval, postmarketing requirements such as postmarketing study commitments, or other limitations or restrictions. Product approvals may be withdrawn by FDA, following notice of opportunity for a hearing, if problems concerning safety or efficacy of a drug or the sponsor’s compliance with regulatory requirements.

The Company’s use of Milestones to predict the benefits of Antineoplastons is relevant to the FDA approval process. If surrogate endpoints are used, for regular approval (i.e., the longstanding FDA route of drug approval based on the demonstration of clinical benefit) an applicant must show direct evidence of clinical benefit or improvement in an established surrogate for clinical benefit. For “accelerated approval,” a process potentially available for pharmaceutical agents that treat serious or life-threatening disease & conditions, surrogate endpoints must be reasonably likely to predict clinical benefit. When appropriate, the Company intends to pursue opportunities for accelerated review of its products. The Company cannot predict the ultimate effect of this review process on the timing or likelihood of FDA review of any of its products. Adequacy as a surrogate endpoint for regular or accelerated approval is highly dependent upon a variety of factors including effect size, effect duration, & benefits of other available therapy.

A drug’s approval under the accelerated approval regulations is conditioned on the conduct of postapproval clinical studies to verify & describe the actual clinical benefit. Further, the FDA may also impose post-marketing restrictions to assure safe use of a drug product that was subject to accelerated approval. For drugs approved under FDA’s accelerated procedures, the FDA may withdraw approval of the drug on an expedited basis if the applicant fails to perform the required postmarketing study with due diligence, use of the drugs demonstrates that post-marketing restrictions are inadequate to assure safe use of the drug, the applicant fails to adhere to the post-marketing restrictions agreed upon, the promotional materials are false or misleading, or other evidence demonstrates that the drug is not shown to be safe or effective under its conditions of use.

The testing & approval process requires substantial time, effort & financial resources, & there can be no assurance that any approval will be granted for any product or that approval will be granted according to any schedule. Moreover, if regulatory approval of a drug is granted, the approval will be limited to specific indications. There can be no assurance that any of the Company’s product candidates will receive regulatory approvals for commercialization.

Please see “Orphan Drug Designation” for a description of the FDA’s orphan drug designation under the Orphan Drug Act of 1983 as it applies to the Company’s Antineoplastons.

Even if the regulatory approvals for the Company’s products are obtained, its products & its manufacturing facility are subject to ongoing compliance obligations.. The FDA will require post-marketing monitoring & reporting related to the safety of the Company’s products. The Company’s drug manufacturing facility, & the facility of any 3rd-party contracted to manufacture the products, must comply with the FDA’s current good manufacturing practice (GMP) regulations, which are strictly enforced. Manufacturing facilities will be subject to periodic inspection by FDA. Full technical compliance requires manufacturers to expend funds, time & effort in the area of production & quality control. In addition, discovery of problems with a product after approval or failure to comply with applicable FDA or other applicable regulatory requirements may result in enforcement actions & restrictions on a product, manufacturer, or holder of an approved NDA, including restrictions on the product, manufacturer or facility, including warning letters, suspension of regulatory approvals, operating restrictions, delays in obtaining new product approvals, withdrawal of the product from the market, product recalls, fines, injunctions & criminal prosecution. New government requirements may be established that could delay or prevent regulatory approval of the Company’s products under development or impose additional compliance obligations before or after approval.

The Company’s research & development involves the controlled use of hazardous materials, chemicals & various radioactive compounds. Although the Company believes its procedures for handling & disposing of those materials comply with state & federal regulations, the risk of accidental contamination or injury from these materials cannot be eliminated. If an accident of this type occurs, the Company could be held liable for resulting damages, which could be material to its financial condition & business. The Company is also subject to numerous environmental, health & workplace safety laws & regulations, including those governing laboratory procedures & the handling of biohazardous materials. Additional federal, state & local laws & regulations affecting the Company may be adopted in the future. Any violation of these laws & regulations, &the cost of compliance, could materially & adversely affect the Company. The Company has historically spent approximately $40,000 per year on environmental compliance matters. For the year ended 2/29/2012, the Company spent approximately $66,000 on environmental compliance matters due to increased production of Antineoplastons. The Company expects to spend approximately $5,000 for repairs & upgrades during the fiscal year ending 2.28/2013.
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Research And Development

The Company’s principal research & development efforts currently focus on Antineoplastons. The anticancer activity of these compounds has been documented in preclinical studies employing the methods of cell culture, pharmacology, cell biology, molecular biology, experimental therapeutics & animal models of cancer. At the level of Phase II clinical studies, the Company believes the anticancer activity of Antineoplastons is supported by preliminary results from ongoing, FDA-authorized, Phase II clinical trials.

The cellular mechanism underlying the anticancer effects of Antineoplastons continues to be investigated in both the Company’s own basic preclinical research program & in independent laboratories around the world. A review of this work suggests several mechanisms that may underlie the antineoplastic activity of Antineoplastons. For example, it has been found, in cell culture experiments, that Antineoplastons induce pathologically undifferentiated cancer cells to assume a more normal state of differentiation. Cell culture experiments have also shown that Antineoplaston components can kill some cancer cells by activating the cell’s intrinsic “suicide” program. It must be noted that data collected in cell culture experiments may or may not indicate the mechanism of action of Antineoplastons in humans.

At a more molecular or sub-cellular level, cell culture experiments have shown that Antineoplastons can block biochemical pathways involving oncogenes required to produce abnormal cell growth. In addition, cell culture experiments have shown that Antineoplastons can increase the expression of anticancer tumor suppressor genes. Although these experiments were conducted using human cancer cells, they may or may not indicate the mechanism of Antineoplaston action in humans.

In addition to the original family of Antineoplaston compounds (the “Parental Generation”), the Company continues its development of a 2nd generation of Antineoplastons. In cell culture experiments, the 2nd generation Antineoplastons, which were developed by the Company, have been shown to be significantly more potent than the Parental Generation.

The Company is also developing a 3rd generation of structurally altered Antineoplastons that the Company believes will exhibit markedly improved anticancer activity in human cancer cell lines that have been resistant to the Parental Generation. However, increases of antineoplastic activity in cell culture experiments may or may not translate into increased efficacy in humans.

The Company is also involved in ongoing studies examining the pharmacokinetics (absorption, distribution, metabolism, & excretion) & pharmacodynamics (dose-response) of Antineoplastons in patients with neoplastic disease.

The Company uses various scientific reagents from several different suppliers to conduct its research activities.

Total research & development costs for the fiscal years ended 2/29/2012 and 2/28/2011 were approximately $6,926,000 & $4,780,000, respectively.
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Intellectual Property

Since 1984, 8 patents involving the formulation, preparation, manufacture, production, use, dosage & treatment of cancer with Antineoplastons (the “Patents”) have been issued to Dr. Burzynski by the US Patent Office & the Patent Offices of 34 other countries. The Patents for cancer treatment & diagnosis in the US & Canada are licensed to the Company pursuant to a License Agreement dated 6/29/1983, as superseded by an Amended License Agreement dated 4/24/1989 and a 2nd Amended License Agreement dated 3/1/1990 (collectively, the “License Agreement”). Pursuant to the License Agreement, the Company holds an exclusive right in the US, Canada, & Mexico (the “Territory”) to use, manufacture, develop, sell, distribute, sub-license & otherwise exploit all of Dr. Burzynski’s rights, title, & interests, including patent rights, in Antineoplastons in the treatment & diagnosis of cancer. See “Certain Relationships & Related Transactions, & Director Independence.” The Company will not be able to exploit such rights until such time as Antineoplastons are approved, of which there can be no assurance, by the FDA for sale in the US. The License Agreement is to continue in effect until the expiration of the last Patent that was licensed under the agreement or termination pursuant to certain other provisions. The Company & Dr. Burzynski also entered into a Royalty Agreement, dated 3/25/1997, & a 1st Amended Royalty Agreement, dated 9/29/1997 (collectively, the “Royalty Agreement”), pursuant to which Dr. Burzynski will receive a royalty interest from all future sales, distribution, & manufacture of Antineoplastons by the Company. The Company owns, pursuant to the License Agreement, exclusive rights to eight issued US Patents, 4 issued Canadian Patents & 1 issued Mexican Patent.

The 5 initial US Patents (the “Initial Patents”) relate to: (i) Determination of Antineoplastons in body tissue or fluids as a testing procedure to aid in the diagnosis of cancer; (ii) Processes for the preparation of purified fractions of Antineoplastons from human urine; (iii) Processes for the synthetic production of Antineoplastons & methods of treating neoplastic disease (cancer); (iv) Administration of Antineoplastons to humans; & (v) Methods of synthesizing A-10. The last of the Initial Patents expired on 1/11/2009, however, the Company does not believe the expiration of any of the Initial Patents will have a material adverse effect on the Company.

The 6th US Patent (the “2000 U.S. Patent”) covers Liposomal Antineoplaston therapies with markedly improved anti-cancer activity. The 2000 U.S. Patent expires on 5.14/2017.

The 7th US Patent (the “2001 U.S. Patent”) is for a treatment regimen for the administration of phenylacetylglutamine, phenylacetylisoglutamine, and/or phenylacetate. The 2001 U.S. Patent expires on 7.23/2018.

The 8th US Patent (the “2005 U.S. Patent”) relates to a divisional application to the 2001 U.S. Patent. The 2005 U.S. Patent issued in September 2005 & will expire 7.31/2018.

The 4 Canadian Patents (the “Canadian Patents”) relate to: (i) Processes for the preparation of purified fractions of Antineoplastons from human urine, (ii) Processes for the synthetic production of Antineoplastons & methods of treating neoplastic disease (cancer), (iii) Liposomal formulation of Antineoplastons & (iv) Treatment regimen for the administration of phenylacetylglutamine. The Canadian Patents expired or will expire on 6/4/2002, 11/14/2006, 5 .14/2017 & 7 .2/2019, respectively; however, the Company does not believe the expiration of the Canadian Patents will have a material adverse effect on the Company.

The Mexican Patent relates to a treatment regimen for the administration of phenylacetylglutamine. This patent will expire in the year 2019.

The Company also depends upon unpatented proprietary technology, & may determine in appropriate circumstances that its interest would be better served by reliance upon trade secrets or confidentiality agreements rather than patents.

The Company’s success will depend in part on its ability to enforce patent protection for its products, preserve its trade secrets, & operate without infringing on the proprietary rights of 3rd parties in the US, Canada, & Mexico. Because of the substantial length of time & expense associated with bringing new products through development & regulatory approval to the marketplace, the pharmaceutical & biotechnology industries place considerable importance on obtaining & maintaining patent & trade secret protection for new technologies, products & processes. There can be no assurance that the Company will develop additional products & methods that are patentable or that present or future patents will provide sufficient protection to the Company’s present or future technologies, products & processes. In addition, there can be no assurance that others will not independently develop substantially equivalent proprietary information, design around the Company’s patents or obtain access to the Company’s know-how or that others will not successfully challenge the validity of the Company’s patents or be issued patents which may prevent the sale of one or more of the Company’s product candidates, or require licensing & the payment of significant fees or royalties by the Company to 3rd parties in order to enable the Company to conduct its business. Legal standards relating to the scope of claims & the validity of patents in the fields in which the Company is pursuing research & development are still evolving, are highly uncertain & involve complex legal & factual issues. No assurance can be given as to the degree of protection or competitive advantage any patents issued to the Company will afford, the validity of any such patents or the Company’s ability to avoid violating or infringing any patents issued to others. Further, there can be no guarantee that any patents issued to or licensed by the Company will not be infringed by the products of others. Litigation & other proceedings involving the defense & prosecution of patent claims can be expensive & time-consuming, even in those instances in which the outcome is favorable to the Company, & can result in the diversion of resources from the Company’s other activities. An adverse outcome could subject the Company to significant liabilities to 3rd parties, require the Company to obtain licenses from 3rd parties or require the Company to cease any related research & development activities or sales.

The Company depends upon the knowledge, experience & skills (which are not patentable) of its key scientific & technical personnel. To protect its rights to its proprietary information, the Company requires all employees, consultants, advisors & collaborators to enter into confidentiality agreements which prohibit the disclosure of confidential information to anyone outside the Company & require disclosure & assignment to the Company of their ideas, developments, discoveries & inventions. There can be no assurance that these agreements will effectively prevent the unauthorized use or disclosure of the Company’s confidential information.

ANTINEOPLASTON® is a trademark registered with the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office.
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Competition

There are many companies, universities, research teams & scientists, both private & government-sponsored, that are engaged in research to produce cancer treatment agents & that have greater financial resources & larger research staffs & facilities than the Company. In addition, there are other companies & entities, both private & government-sponsored, that are engaged in research aimed at compounds similar or related to the Company’s Antineoplastons. To the extent that the US
Government also conducts research or supports other companies or individuals in their research, such companies or individuals may have a competitive advantage over the Company.
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Employees

As of 5/1/2012, the Company had 3 employees, all of whom were full-time employees. None of the Company’s employees are parties to a collective bargaining agreement. The Company considers the relations with its employees to be good.
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2. PROPERTIES

The Company does not own or invest in real estate, interests in real estate, real estate mortgages or securities of or interests in persons primarily engaged in real estate activities.

The Company conducts its business in premises owned by Dr. Burzynski & his wife, Dr. Barbara Burzynski (the “Burzynskis”). Pursuant to arrangements with the Burzynskis (see “Certain Relationships & Related Transactions, & Director Independence—Research Funding Arrangements”), the Company occupies (i) 675 square feet for office, laboratory & medical research purposes & (ii) 540 square feet for its executive offices. Management of the Company believes that each of these properties is adequately covered by insurance.
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3. LEGAL PROCEEDINGS

The Company’s activities are subject to regulation by various governmental agencies, including the FDA, which regularly monitor the Company’s operations & often impose requirements on the conduct of its clinical trials and other aspects of the Company’s business operations. The Company’s policy is to comply with all such regulatory requirements. From time to time, the Company is also subject to potential claims by patients & other potential claimants commonly arising out of the operation of a medical practice. The Company seeks to minimize its exposure to claims of this type wherever possible.

Currently, the Company is not a party to any material pending legal proceedings. Moreover, the Company is not aware of any such legal proceedings that are contemplated by governmental authorities with respect to the Company or any of its properties.
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5. MARKET FOR REGISTRANT’S COMMON EQUITY; RELATED STOCKHOLDER MATTERS & ISSUER PURCHASES OF EQUITY SECURITIES

Since 9/15/2001, the Company’s Common Stock has remained in good standing for trading on the OTCBB. Nevertheless, a public trading market having the characteristics of depth, liquidity & orderliness depends upon the existence of market makers as well as the presence of willing buyers & sellers, which are circumstances over which the Company does not have control. There can be no assurance that the market will provide significant liquidity for the Company’s Common Stock. As a result, an investment in the Company’s Common Stock may be highly illiquid. Investors may not be able to sell their shares readily or at all when the investor needs or desires to sell.

The following table sets forth closing high & low bid prices of the shares of Common Stock of the Company for the periods indicated (as reported by OTC Markets Group Inc.).
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Price Range
High / Low

Fiscal year ended 2/28/2011
1st Quarter
$0.22 / $0.11

2nd Quarter
0.17 / 0.08

3rd Quarter
0.15 / 0.08

4th Quarter
0.15 / 0.11

Fiscal year ended 2/29/2012
1st Quarter
$0.15 / $0.08

2nd Quarter
0.19 / 0.05

3rd Quarter
0.42 / 0.12

4th Quarter
0.28 /0.22

The quotations set forth above reflect inter-dealer prices, without retail mark-up, mark-down or commission, & may not represent actual transactions.

On 6/1/2009, the Company approved the issuance of 60,000 shares of the Company’s Common Stock as compensation for services rendered to the Company & were fair valued at approximately $9,400. The shares were sold pursuant to an exemption from registration under Section 4(2) of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, to a single accredited investor & did not involve a public offering, & were issued to such investor on 6/2/2010.

As of 5/1/2012, there were approximately 2,000 holders of record of the Company’s Common Stock, as shown on the records of the Transfer Agent & Registrar of the Common Stock. Since many shares may be held by investors in nominee names, such as the name of their broker or their broker’s nominee, the # of record holders often bears little relationship to the # of beneficial owners of the Common Stock.

The Company has never paid cash dividends on its Common Stock & the Board of Directors intends to retain all of its earnings, if any, to finance the development & expansion of its business. However, there can be no assurance that the Company can successfully expand its operations, or that such expansion will prove profitable. Future dividend policy will depend upon the Company’s earnings, capital requirements, financial condition & other factors considered relevant by the Company’s Board of Directors.
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6. SELECTED FINANCIAL DATA – None
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7. MANAGEMENT’S DISCUSSION & ANALYSIS OF FINANCIAL CONDITION & RESULTS OF OPERATIONS

The following is a discussion of the financial condition of the Company as of 1/29/2012 & 2/28/2011 & the results of operations for the fiscal years ended 2/29/2012 & 2/28/2011. It should be read in conjunction with the financial statements & the notes thereto included elsewhere in this report. The following discussion contains forward-looking statements.
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Introduction

The Company has generated no significant revenue since its inception, & does not expect to generate any operating revenues until such time, if any, as Antineoplastons are approved for use & sale by the FDA. The Company’s sole source of funding is Dr. Burzynski, who funds the Company’s operations from his medical practice pursuant to certain agreements between Dr. Burzynski & the Company. See “Certain Relationships & Related Transactions, & Director Independence.” Funds received by the Company from Dr. Burzynski are reported as additional paid-in capital to the Company.

The Company is primarily engaged as a research & development facility of Antineoplaston drugs currently being tested for use in the treatment of cancer, & provides consulting services. The Company is currently conducting 2 FDA-approved clinical trials. The Company holds the exclusive right in the US, Canada & Mexico to use, manufacture, develop, sell, distribute, sublicense & otherwise exploit all the rights, titles & interest in Antineoplaston drugs used in the treatment of cancer, once the drugs are approved for sale by the FDA. See “Certain Relationships & Related Transactions, & Director Independence.”
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Results Of Operations

Fiscal Year Ended 2/29/2012 Compared to Fiscal Year Ended 2/28/2011

Research & development costs were approximately $6,926,000 & $4,780,000 for the fiscal years ended 2/29/2012 & 2/28/2011, respectively. The increase of $2,146,000 or 45% was due to an increase in personnel cost of $93,000, an increase in material costs of $1,778,000, an increase in facility & equipment costs of $130,000, an increase in consulting & quality control costs of $142,000, & an increase in other research & development costs of $2,000.

General & administrative expenses were approximately $231,000 & $250,000 for the fiscal years ended 2/29/2012 & 2/28/2011, respectively. The decrease of $19,000 or 8% was due to a decrease in legal & professional fees of $17,000 & a decrease in other general & administrative expenses of $2,000.

The Company had net losses of approximately $7,158,000 & $5,031,000 for the fiscal years ended 2/29/2012 & 2/28/2011, respectively. The increase in the net loss from 2011 to 2012 was primarily due to an overall increase in research & development costs offset by an overall decrease in general & administrative expenses of the Company described above. As of 2/29/2012, the Company had a total stockholders’ deficit of approximately $(41,000).

Liquidity & Capital Resources

The Company’s operations have been funded entirely by Dr. Burzynski with funds generated from Dr. Burzynski’s medical practice. Effective 3/1/1997, the Company entered into a Research Funding Agreement with Dr. Burzynski (the “Research Funding Agreement”), pursuant to which the Company agreed to undertake all scientific research in connection with the development of new or improved Antineoplastons for the treatment of cancer & Dr. Burzynski agreed to fund the Company’s Antineoplaston research for that purpose. Under the Research Funding Agreement, the Company hires such personnel as is required to conduct Antineoplaston research, & Dr. Burzynski funds the Company’s research expenses, including expenses to conduct the clinical trials. Dr. Burzynski also provides the Company laboratory & research space as needed to conduct the Company’s research activities. The Research Funding Agreement also provides that Dr. Burzynski may fulfill his funding obligations in part by providing the Company such administrative support as is necessary for the Company to manage its business. Dr. Burzynski pays the full amount of the Company’s monthly & annual budget of expenses for the operation of the Company, together with other unanticipated but necessary expenses which the Company incurs. In the event the research results in the approval of any additional patents for the treatment of cancer, Dr. Burzynski shall own all such patents, but shall license to the Company the patents based on the same terms, conditions & limitations as are in the current license between Dr. Burzynski & the Company. Dr. Burzynski has unlimited & free access to all equipment which the Company owns, so long as such use does not conflict with the Company’s use of such equipment, including without limitation, all equipment used in the manufacturing of Antineoplastons used in the clinical trials. The amounts which Dr. Burzynski is obligated to pay under the agreement shall be reduced dollar for dollar by the following: (1) any income which the Company receives for services provided to other companies for research and/or development of other products, less such identifiable marginal or additional expenses necessary to produce such income, or (2) the net proceeds of any stock offering or private placement which the Company receives during the term of the agreement up to a maximum of $1,000,000 in a given Company fiscal year.

The Company entered into a 3rd amendment to the Research Funding Agreement, effective 3/1/2007, whereby the Company & Dr. Burzynski extended the term thereof until 2/28/2008, with an automatic renewal for an additional 1-year term, unless 1 party notifies the other party at least 30 days prior to the expiration of the term of the agreement of its intention not to renew the agreement. Subject to the foregoing, the term of the Research Funding Agreement was renewed & extended until 02 .28/ 2013, which extended term is also automatically renewable for an additional 1-year term unless one party notifies the other party at least 30 days prior to the expiration of the term of the agreement of its intention not to renew the agreement.

The Research Funding Agreement automatically terminates in the event that Dr. Burzynski owns less than 50% of the outstanding shares of the Company, or is removed as President and/or Chairman of the Board of the Company, unless Dr. Burzynski notifies the Company in writing of his intention to continue the agreement notwithstanding this automatic termination provision.

The Company estimates that it will spend approximately $5.0 million in the fiscal year ending 2/28/2013. The Company estimates that 95% of this amount will be spent on research & development & the continuance of FDA-approved clinical trials. While the Company anticipates that Dr. Burzynski will continue to fund the Company’s research & FDA-related costs, there is no assurance that Dr. Burzynski will be able to continue to fund the Company’s operations pursuant to the Research Funding Agreement or otherwise. However, because the net assets available to Dr. Burzynski from his personal assets & the assets of his medical practice currently exceed the Company’s projected 12-month funding requirements, the Company believes Dr. Burzynski will be financially able to fund the Company’s operations at least through the fiscal year ending 2/28/2013. In addition, Dr. Burzynski’s medical practice has successfully funded the Company’s research activities over the last 26 years &, in 1997, his medical practice was expanded to include traditional cancer tr

I’m disappointed you hadn’t figured out that I’m responding in order by date completely incompetent at this “commenting” thing.

FTFY. HTH. HAND.

Since 9/15/2001, the Company’s Common Stock has remained in good standing for trading on the OTCBB.

Yah, as I’ve mentioned, the penny-stock vibe was apparent a while ago. As also mentioned, they’re no longer on the OTCBB for lack of a market-maker. An old 10-K is not what is meant by “publishing,” bonehead. There is no need to “read between the lines.”

treatment options such as chemotherapy, immunotherapy, hormonal therapy & gene targeted therapy in response to FDA requirements that cancer patients utilize more traditional cancer treatment options in order to be eligible to participate in the Company’s Antineoplaston clinical trials. As a result of the expansion of Dr. Burzynski’s medical practice, the financial condition of the medical practice has improved Dr. Burzynski’s ability to fund the Company’s operations.

Because the Company currently is entirely dependent upon the contributions for research provided by Dr. Burzynski under the Research Funding Agreement, the Company would not be able to continue conducting its clinical trials if Dr. Burzynski ceased funding the Company’s research. In such event, the Company would be required to find immediate funding which may not be available on acceptable terms or at all. If this were to occur & the Company were not able to find adequate sources of funding, the Company would be required to cease operations. Even with Dr. Burzynski’s continued contributions under the Research Funding Agreement, the Company may be required to seek additional capital through equity or debt financing or the sale of assets until the Company’s operating revenues are sufficient to cover operating costs & provide positive cash flow; however, there can be no assurance that the Company will be able to raise such additional capital on acceptable terms to the Company. In addition, there can be no assurance that the Company will ever achieve positive operating cash flow.
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8. FINANCIAL STATEMENTS & SUPPLEMENTARY DATA
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The Company’s Annual Financial Statements, Notes to Financial Statements & the report of Pannell Kerr Forster of Texas, P.C., independent registered public accounting firm, with respect thereto, referred to in the Table of Contents to the Financial Statements, appear elsewhere in this report
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9. CHANGES IN & DISAGREEMENTS WITH ACCOUNTANTS ON ACCOUNTING & FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE – None
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9A. CONTROLS AND PROCEDURES

(a) Evaluation of Disclosure Controls & Procedures. Within the 90 days prior to the date of this report, the Company carried out an evaluation, under the supervision & with the participation of the Company’s management, including the Company’s principal executive officer & principal financial officer, of the effectiveness of the Company’s disclosure controls & procedures pursuant to Rule 13a-14 under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended. Based upon that evaluation, the Company’s principal executive officer & principal financial officer concluded that the Company’s disclosure controls & procedures are effective & designed to ensure that the information required to be included in periodic Securities & Exchange Commission filings is recorded, processed, summarized & reported on a timely basis. A controls system cannot provide absolute assurance, however, that the objectives of the controls system are met, & no evaluation of controls can provide absolute assurance that all control issues & instances of fraud, if any, within a company have been detected.

Management’s Annual Report on Internal Control over Financial Reporting. The Company’s management is responsible for establishing & maintaining adequate internal control over financial reporting (as defined in Rule 13a-15(f) under the Exchange Act). Our internal control over financial reporting is a process designed to provide reasonable assurance regarding the reliability of financial reporting & the preparation of financial statements for external purposes in accordance with accounting principles generally accepted in the US.

Because of its inherent limitations, internal control over financial reporting may not prevent or detect misstatements. Therefore, even those systems determined to be effective can provide only reasonable assurance of achieving their control objectives.

The Company’s management, with the participation of the Company’s principal executive officer & principal financial officer, evaluated the effectiveness of the Company’s internal control over financial reporting as of 2/29/2012. In making this assessment, the Company’s management used the criteria set forth by the Committee of Sponsoring Organizations of the Treadway Commission (COSO) in Internal Control — Integrated Framework. Based on this evaluation, the Company’s management, with the participation of the principal executive officer & principal financial officer, concluded that, as of 2/29/2012, the Company’s internal control over financial reporting was effective.

This annual report does not include an attestation report of the Company’s registered public accounting firm regarding internal control over financial reporting. Management’s report was not subject to attestation by the Company’s registered public accounting firm pursuant to temporary rules of the Securities & Exchange Commission that permit the company to provide only management’s report in this annual report.

(b) Changes in Internal Control Over Financial Reporting. There were no significant changes in the Company’s internal controls or in other factors that could significantly affect internal controls subsequent to the date of the evaluation above.
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9B. OTHER INFORMATION – None
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10. DIRECTORS, EXECUTIVE OFFICERS AND CORPORATE GOVERNANCE

Set forth below are the names, ages & positions of the Company’s directors & executive officers:

Name / Age / Office
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Stanislaw R. Burzynski, M.D., Ph.D. / 69 / Director & President
Barbara Burzynski, M.D. / 71 / Director
Michael H. Driscoll, J.D. / 66 / Director
Carlton Hazlewood, Ph.D. / 76 / Director
Gregory S. Burzynski, M.D. / 32 / Director
Patryk P. Goscianski, M.B.A. / 34 / Treasurer & Secretary
Tomasz Janicki, M.D. / 46 / Vice President of Clinical Trials
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STANISLAW R. BURZYNSKI, M.D., PH.D., has been the President & Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Company since its inception in 1984. He also served as the Company’s Secretary & Treasurer until 3/1/2012. Dr. Burzynski is a physician in private practice in Houston, Texas specializing in the treatment of cancer. Dr. Burzynski is the husband of Barbara Burzynski, M.D. & father of Gregory S. Burzynski, who are each directors of the Company.

Currently listed in Who’s Who In The World & a member in good standing with both the American & World Medical Associations, Dr. Burzynski is an internationally recognized physician & scientist who has pioneered the development & use of biologically active peptides in diagnosing, preventing, & treating cancer since 1967. In 1967, Dr. Burzynski graduated with distinction with an M.D. degree from the Medical Academy in Lublin, Poland, finishing first in his class of 250, & he subsequently earned his Ph.D. in Biochemistry.

From 1970 to 1977, he was a researcher & Assistant Professor at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston. At Baylor, Dr. Burzynski’s research was sponsored & partially funded by the National Cancer Institute. Also at Baylor, he authored & co-authored 16 publications, including five concerning his research on peptides & their effect on human cancer. 4 of these publications were also co-authored by other doctors associated with M.D. Anderson Hospital & Tumor Institute & Baylor College of Medicine. In May 1977, Dr. Burzynski received a Certificate of Appreciation from Baylor College of Medicine & in that same year founded the Company.

Dr. Burzynski is a member of the American Medical Association, American Association for Cancer Research, Harris County Medical Society, New York Academy of Sciences, Society for Neuroscience, Texas Medical Association, the Society of Sigma Xi, & the Society of Neuro-oncology. He is the author of over 300 scientific publications, presenter of scientific papers at major international conventions, & has been awarded 243 patents covering 42 countries for his Antineoplaston treatment & other inventions. Other groups are working in conjunction with him, including researchers at the University of Kurume Medical School in Japan.
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BARBARA BURZYNSKI, M.D., a Director since 1984 & the wife of Dr. Burzynski, has been the Chairman of the Department of Pharmacy of the Burzynski Clinic since 1977. From January 1976 to July 1977, she was a Research Assistant in the Department of Pediatrics at Baylor College of Medicine. She was a physician at the Medical Academy, Lublin, Poland, from 1970 to 1975. Dr. Barbara Burzynski graduated with an M.D. in 1966 from the Medical Academy, Lublin, Poland, & has published 6 publications on studies with Antineoplastons.
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MICHAEL H. DRISCOLL, J.D. has been a Director of the Company since 1984. Mr. Driscoll was formerly a judge & served as the County Attorney of Harris County, Texas from 1981 until he retired in 1997.
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CARLTON HAZLEWOOD, PH.D. has been a Director of the Company since 1997. He also serves as Chairman of the IRB, an independent review board for the Company’s clinical trials designated according to federal regulations. Dr. Hazlewood currently operates his own consulting company, Research Consultant’s International, is president of Petroclean, L.L.C. & is an adjunct professor at Kingwood College. In addition, Dr. Hazlewood was employed in various capacities by the Baylor College of Medicine from 1965 until December 31, 1997, where he was a professor of Molecular Biology & Biophysics. Dr. Hazlewood received his Ph.D. in Medical Physiology from the University of Tennessee. Dr. Hazlewood is a prolific writer on medical topics & has been recognized for his research with numerous awards, honors & research grants.
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GREGORY S. BURZYNSKI, M.D. has been a Director of the Company since 2011. Dr. Gregory Burzynski is a licensed medical doctor who has worked at the Burzynski Clinic in Houston, Texas since July 2010. After Dr. Gregory Burzynski graduated from Jagiellonian University Medical College in 2007, he was accepted in the internal medicine residency program of the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in Austin, Texas. He is currently the Vice President of the Burzynski Clinic. In addition, Dr. Gregory Burzynski is board certified in internal medicine & has been involved in co-authoring numerous publications regarding Antineoplastons.
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PATRYK P. GOSCIANSKI, M.B.A. was appointed as the Treasurer & the Secretary of the Company on 3/1/2012. Mr. Goscianski currently works at Burzynski Clinic. Mr. Goscianski joined Burzynski Clinic in Houston, TX in 2011 & holds the positions of Director of Finance & Director of Administration, where he oversees the external financial reporting for Burzynski Clinic as well as manages various other accounting, finance & administrative functions. In the past few years, Mr. Goscianski has worked for a variety of companies in areas of finance & business consulting. Mr. Goscianski holds a Bachelor of Business Administration degree from Texas State University & a Masters of Business Administration degree from the University of North Alabama.
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TOMASZ JANICKI, M.D. was appointed as the Vice President of Clinical Trials of the Company on 3/1/2012. Dr. Janicki currently works at Burzynski Clinic. Dr. Janicki joined Burzynski Clinic in 1997 as Research Associate & has served as Director of Medical Documentation at Burzynski Clinic since 2002. Dr. Janicki has been involved in the administrative oversight of the Research Department at Burzynski Clinic, & has co-authored 43 publications & presentations for the advancement & acceleration of research & clinical trials at Burzynski Clinic. Dr. Janicki received his M.D. degree from Medical University in Wroclaw, Poland. Dr. Janicki is the son-in-law of Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski.
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Audit Committee Financial Expert

The Company has not established an Audit Committee. Therefore, the Board of Directors has not designated any of its members as an “audit committee financial expert” as defined by the rules & regulations of the Securities and Exchange Commission.
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Section 16(a) Beneficial Ownership Reporting Compliance

Based solely upon a review of Forms 3 & 4 & amendments thereto furnished to the Company under Rule 16a-3(e) during the fiscal year ended 2/29/2012 & Form 5 & amendments thereto furnished to the Company with respect to such period, except as set forth below, the Company is not aware of any director, officer, or beneficial owner of more than 10% of any class of equity securities of the Company registered pursuant to Section 12 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the “Exchange Act”) that has failed to file on a timely basis, as disclosed in the above forms, reports required by Section 16(a) of the Exchange Act during the Company’s most recent fiscal year. A Form 3 was not filed for Gregory S. Burzynski, Patryk P. Goscianski & Tomasz Janicki during the fiscal year ended 2/29/2012; instead, a Form 5 was filed with the Securities & Exchange Commission on 4/12/2012 for each such individual.
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Code of Ethics

The Company has adopted a code of ethics that applies to our chief executive officer, chief financial officer, chief accounting officer & all persons performing similar functions. The Company hereby undertakes to provide a copy of this code of ethics to any person, without charge upon request made in writing to: Investor Relations, 9432 Katy Freeway, Houston, Texas 77055.
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ITEM 11. EXECUTIVE COMPENSATION

SUMMARY COMPENSATION TABLE

Annual Compensation

Long-Term Compensation

Name and Principal Position / Fiscal Yea Ending / Salary($) / Bonus ($) /Other Annual Compensation ($) / Restricted Stock Awards($) / Securities Underlying Options/SARs($) / LTIP Payouts ($) / All Other Compensatio ($)
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Stanislaw R. Burzynski, M.D., Ph.D., President & Chairman of the Board of Directors (1)
2010 -0- / -0- / -0- / -0- / -0- / -0- / -0-
2011 -0- / -0- / -0- / -0- / -0- /-0- / -0-
2012 -0- / -0- / -0- / -0- / -0- / -0- / -0-
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Patryk P. Goscianski, M.B.A., Treasurer & Secretary (2)
2012 -0- / -0- / -0- / -0- / -0- / -0- / -0-
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Tomasz Janicki, M.D., Vice President of Clinical Trials (3)
2012 -0- / -0- / -0- / -0- / -0- / -0- / -0-
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(1) In May of 2000, Dr. Burzynski began drawing his entire salary through his medical practice & is not currently compensated by the Company for his services.
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(2) Mr. Goscianski is not currently compensated by the Company for his services.
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(3) Dr. Janicki is not currently compensated by the Company for his services. ………………………………………………………………………………………..
Directors do not receive any compensation for serving as directors; however, directors are reimbursed for all ordinary & necessary expenses incurred in attending meetings of the Board of Directors or otherwise incurred in their capacity as directors. In addition, any director also serving as a director of the IRB, the independent review board for the Company’s clinical trials designated according to federal regulations, is compensated by the IRB approximately $1,200 annually for serving as a director of the IRB.
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12. SECURITY OWNERSHIP OF CERTAIN BENEFICIAL OWNERS AND MANAGEMENT AND RELATED STOCKHOLDER MATTERS

The following table sets forth, as of 5/1/2012, the # of outstanding shares of Common Stock (the Company’s only class of voting securities) owned by (i) each person known by the Company to beneficially own more than 5% of its outstanding Common Stock, (ii) each director, (iii) each named executive officer, & (iv) all officers & directors as a group. The address for all of the beneficial owners listed below is the Company’s address.

Name of beneficial owner / Amount and nature of beneficial ownership / Percent of class (1)
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Stanislaw R. Burzynski, M.D., Ph.D. / 106,368,278 / 80.9%
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Barbara Burzynski, M.D. / 106,368,278 / (2) / 80.9%
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Michael H. Driscoll / 125,000 / *
Carlton Hazlewood / 0 / *
Gregory S. Burzynski, M.D. / 55,912 / *
Patryk P. Goscianski, M.B.A. / 0 / *
Tomasz Janicki, M.D. / 55,912 / *
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All Current Directors & Executive Officers as a group (7 persons)
106,605,102 / 81.1% / *Less than 1#.
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(1)Percentages shown are based upon 131,448,444 shares of Common Stock outstanding as of 5/1/2012. Certain shares are deemed beneficially owned by more than 1 person listed in the table.
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(2)All of the shares listed above for Dr. Barbara Burzynski are included in the total # of shares for Dr. Burzynski, her husband.
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13. CERTAIN RELATIONSHIPS AND RELATED TRANSACTIONS, AND DIRECTOR INDEPENDENCE

Dr. Burzynski is the President & Chairman of the Board of the Company, as well as the beneficial owner of 80.9% of the Company’s outstanding Common Stock. Since 1983, Dr. Burzynski has personally funded & supported the Company’s operations out of funds generated from his medical practice pursuant to various agreements with the Company.
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License Agreement

The Company entered into the License Agreement with Dr. Burzynski which gives the Company the exclusive right in the Territory (composed of the US, Canada & Mexico) to use, manufacture, develop, sell, distribute, sublicense & otherwise exploit all of his rights, title & interests in Antineoplastons in the treatment & diagnosis of cancer, including but not limited to any patent rights which may be granted in these countries. The License Agreement will terminate upon the earlier of the expiration of the last patent licensed to the Company, or termination by Dr. Burzynski, at his option, if he is removed as a director or officer of the Company without his consent, if the Company files for bankruptcy or is the subject of any proceeding under applicable bankruptcy laws where such proceeding is not dismissed within 90 days from the date a petition is filed, or if any shareholder or group of shareholders acting in concert becomes the beneficial owner of the Company’s securities having voting power equal to or greater than the voting power of the securities Dr. Burzynski holds. Amendments to the License Agreement on 4/24/1984 & on 3/1/1990 granted Dr. Burzynski the limited right to manufacture, use, & exploit Antineoplastons in the Company’s exclusive territory solely for the purpose of enabling Dr. Burzynski to treat patients in his medical practice until such date that the FDA may approve the sale of Antineoplastons for the treatment of cancer in the US.
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Research Funding Arrangements

Effective 3/1/1997, the Company entered into the Research Funding Agreement with Dr. Burzynski & terminated all of the prior funding agreements between the Company & Dr. Burzynski. Pursuant to the Research Funding Agreement:

·The Company agreed to undertake all scientific research in connection with the development of new or improved Antineoplastons for the treatment of cancer & other diseases. The Company will hire such personnel as is required to fulfill its obligations under the agreement;

·Dr. Burzynski agreed to fund in its entirety all basic research which the Company undertakes in connection with the development of other Antineoplastons or refinements to existing Antineoplastons for the treatment of cancer & other diseases;

·Dr. Burzynski agreed to pay the expenses to conduct the clinical trials for the Company;

·Dr. Burzynski agreed to provide the Company such laboratory, research space & office space as the Company needs at no charge to the Company;

·The parties agreed that Dr. Burzynski may fulfill his obligations in part by providing such administrative staff as is necessary for the Company to manage its business, at no cost to the Company;

·Dr. Burzynski agreed to pay the full amount of the monthly & annual budget of expenses for the operation of the Company, together with such other unanticipated but necessary expenses which the Company incurs. Payments from Dr. Burzynski to the Company of the monthly budget shall be made in 2 equal installments on the 1st & 15th of each month;

·In the event the research described in the agreement results in the approval of any additional patents, Dr. Burzynski shall own all such patents, but shall license to the Company the patents based on the same terms, conditions & limitations as provided by the License Agreement;

·Dr. Burzynski shall have unlimited & free access to all equipment which the Company owns, so long as such use is not in conflict with the Company’s use of such equipment, including without limitation to all equipment used in manufacturing of Antineoplastons used in the clinical trials;

·The amounts which Dr. Burzynski is obligated to pay under the agreement shall be reduced dollar for dollar by the following:

·Any income which the Company receives for services provided to other companies for research and/or development of other products, less such identifiable marginal or additional expenses necessary to produce such income (such as the purchase of chemicals, products or equipment solely necessary to engage in such other research & development activity); &

·The net proceeds of any stock offering or private placement which the Company receives during the term of the agreement up to a maximum of $1,000,000 in a given Company fiscal year.

Effective 3/1/2007, the Company entered into a 3rd amendment to the Research Funding Agreement, whereby the Company & Dr. Burzynski extended the term thereof until 2/28/2008, with an automatic renewal for an additional 1-year term, unless 1 party notifies the other party at least 30 days prior to the expiration of the term of the agreement of its intention not to renew the agreement. In addition to the foregoing termination provisions, the agreement automatically terminates in the event that Dr. Burzynski owns less than 50# of the outstanding shares of the Company, or is removed as President and/or Chairman of the Board of the Company, unless Dr. Burzynski notifies the Company in writing of his intention to continue the agreement notwithstanding this automatic termination provision. Subject to the foregoing, the term of the Research Funding Agreement was renewed & extended until 2.28/2013, which extended term is also automatically renewable for an additional 1-year term unless 1 party notifies the other party at least 30 days prior to the expiration of the term of the agreement of its intention not to renew the agreement.
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Royalty Agreement

The Company & Dr. Burzynski entered into the Royalty Agreement, pursuant to which Dr. Burzynski agreed to act as the principal clinical investigator of the clinical trials necessary for obtaining FDA approval for interstate marketing of Antineoplastons. The Company & Dr. Burzynski agreed that in the event the Company receives FDA approval for interstate marketing & distribution, of which there can be no assurance, the Company shall pay Dr. Burzynski a royalty of 10% of the Company’s gross income, which royalty shall be paid on all gross receipts from all future sales, distributions & manufacture of Antineoplastons.

Pursuant to the Royalty Agreement, Dr. Burzynski retains the right to either (i) produce Antineoplaston products for use in his medical practice to treat up to 1,000 patients, at any one time, without paying any fees to the Company or (ii) purchase from the Company Antineoplaston products to treat up to 1,000 patients, at any one time, at a price equal to cost plus 10%. Dr. Burzynski has the right to lease or purchase all the manufacturing equipment located at Stafford, Texas at a fair market price. The Royalty Agreement further provides that the Company will have the right, when & if Antineoplastons are approved for use & sale by the FDA, (i) to produce all Antineoplaston products to be sold or distributed in the US, Canada &Mexico for the treatment of cancer & (ii) to lease from Dr. Burzynski the entire premises located at Stafford, Texas at terms & rates competitive with those available in the real estate market at that time, provided that Dr. Burzynski does not need the facility for his use.
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ITEM 14. PRINCIPAL ACCOUNTING FEES AND SERVICES

The following table sets forth the aggregate fees billed to the Company by its independent registered public accounting firm, PKF, for fiscal years ended 2/29/2012 & 2/28/2011, respectively:
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2012 / 2011

Audit Fees
$43,000 / $43,000

Audit-Related Feesp
0 / 0

Tax Fees
0 / 0

All Other Fees
0 / 0

Total
$43,000 / $43,000

Audit Fees were for professional services rendered for the audit of BRI’s financial statements & review of the interim financial statements included in quarterly reports & services that are normally provided in connection with statutory & regulatory filings or engagements.

Audit-Related Fees are for assurance & related services that are reasonably related to the performance of the audit or review of BRI’s financial statements & are not reported under “Audit Fees.” There were no Audit-Related Fees incurred in fiscal years 2012 or 2011.

Tax Fees were for professional services for federal & state tax compliance, tax advice & tax planning. There were no Tax Fees incurred in fiscal years 2012 or 2011.

All Other Fees were for services other than the services reported above. There were no Other Fees incurred in fiscal years 2012 or 2011.

Audit Committee’s Pre-Approval Policies & Procedures. As disclosed above in Item 9, the Company does not have an Audit Committee. The Board of Directors has not adopted any pre-approval policies or procedures.
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Certificate of Incorporation of the Company, as amended (incorporated by reference from Exhibit 3(i) — (iii) to Form 10-SB filed with the Securities & Exchange Commission on 11/25/1997 (File No. 000-23425)).

Amended Bylaws of the Company (incorporated by reference from Exhibit (3)(iv) to Form 10-SB filed with the Securities & Exchange Commission on 11/25/1997 (File No. 000-23425)).

Form of Certificate Representing Common Stock (incorporated by reference from Exhibit 4.1 to Form 10-KSB filed with the Securities & Exchange Commission on 5/2/2001 (File No. 000-23425)).

License Agreement, effective as of 6/29/1983, by & between the Company & Dr. Stanislaw R. Burzynski (incorporated by reference from Exhibit 10(1) to Form 10-SB filed with the Securities & Exchange Commission on 11/25/1997 (File No. 000-23425)).

Amended License Agreement, dated 4/2/1984, by & between the Company & Dr. Stanislaw R. Burzynski (incorporated by referenced from Exhibit 10(2) to Form 10-SB filed with the Securities & Exchange Commission on 11/25/1997 (File No. 000-23425)).

2nd Amended License Agreement, dated 3/1/1990, by & between the Company & Dr. Stanislaw R. Burzynski (incorporated by reference from Exhibit 10(3) to Form 10-SB filed with the Securities & Exchange Commission on 11/25/1997 (File No. 000-23425)).

Research Funding Agreement, effective as of 3/1/1997, by & between the Company & Dr. Stanislaw R. Burzynski (incorporated by reference from Exhibit 10(4) to Form 10-SB filed with the Securities & Exchange Commission on 1-/25/1997 (File No. 000-23425)).

First Amendment to Research Funding Agreement, effective as of 3/1/2001, by & between the Company & Dr. Stanislaw R. Burzynski (incorporated by reference from Exhibit 10.5 to Form 10-KSB filed with the Securities & Exchange Commission on 5/2/2001 (File No. 000-23425)).

2nd Amendment to the Research Funding Agreement, effective as of 2/29/2004, by & between the Company & Dr. Stanislaw R. Burzynski (incorporated by reference from Exhibit 10.6 to Form 10-KSB filed with the Securities & Exchange Commission on 6/1/2004 (File No. 000-23425)).

Royalty Agreement, dated 3/25/1997, by & between the Company & Dr. Stanislaw R. Burzynski (incorporated by reference from Exhibit 10(5) to Form 10-SB filed with the Securities & Exchange Commission on 11/25/1997 (File No. 000-23425)).

1st Amended Royalty Agreement, dated 9/29/1997, by & between the Company & Dr. Stanislaw R. Burzynski (incorporated by reference from Exhibit 10(6) to Form 10-SB filed with the Securities & Exchange Commission on 11/25/1997 (File No. 000-23425)).

3rd Amendment to Research Funding Agreement, effective as of 3/1/2007, by & between the Company & Dr. Stanislaw R. Burzynski (incorporated by reference from Exhibit 10.9 to Form 10-KSB filed with the Securities & Exchange Commission on 5/29/2007 (File No. 000-23425)).
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Power of Attorney (Included with the Signature Page).

Certification pursuant to Rules 13a-14 & 15d-14 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, filed herewith (Chief Executive Officer).

Certification pursuant to Rules 13a-14 & 15d-14 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, filed herewith (Principal Financial Officer).

Certification furnished pursuant to 18 U.S.C. Section 1350, as adopted pursuant to Section 906 of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002 (Chief Executive Officer).

Certification furnished pursuant to 18 U.S.C. Section 1350, as adopted pursuant to Section 906 of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002 (Principal Financial Officer).

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SIGNATURES

In accordance with Section 13 or 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the registrant caused this report to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned, thereunto duly authorized.
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BURZYNSKI RESEARCH INSTITUTE, INC.
By:
/s/ Stanislaw R. Burzynski
Stanislaw R. Burzynski, President & Chairman of the Board of Directors
Date: 5/29/2012
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Each person whose signature appears below constitutes & appoints Dr. Stanislaw R. Burzynski his/her true & lawful attorney-in-fact & agent, with full power of substitution & resubstitution, severally, for him/her in his/her name, place & stead, in any & all capacities, to sign any & all amendments to this report, & to file the same, with all exhibits thereto & other documents in connection therewith, with the Securities & Exchange Commission, granting unto said attorney-in-fact & agent full power & authority to do & perform each & every act & thing requisite & necessary to be done in & about the premises, as fully to all intents & purposes as he/she might or could do in person, hereby ratifying & confirming all that said attorney-in-fact & agent may lawfully do or cause to be done by virtue hereof.

Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Act of 1934, this report has been signed below by the following persons in the capacities & on the dates indicated.
………………………………………………………………………………………..
/s/ Stanislaw R. Burzynski
Stanislaw R. Burzynski
Date: 5/29/2012
President & Chairman of the Board of Directors
………………………………………………………………………………………..
/s/ Barbara Burzynski
Barbara Burzynski
Date: 5/29/2012
Director
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/s/ Michael H. Driscoll
Michael H. Driscoll
Date: 5/29/2012
Director
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/s/ Carlton Hazlewood
Carlton Hazlewood
Date: 5//9/2012
Director
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/s/ Gregory S. Burzynski
Gregory S. Burzynski, M.D.
Director
Date: 5/29/2012
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/s/ Patryk P. Goscianski
Patryk P. Goscianski, M.B.A.
Treasurer & Secretary
Date: 5/29/2012
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/s/ Tomasz Janicki
Tomasz Janicki, M.D.
Vice President of Clinical Trials
Date: 5/29/2012
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Burzynski Research Institute, Inc.

Financial Statements

For the years ended
2/29/2012 & 2/28/2011
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REPORT OF INDEPENDENT REGISTERED PUBLIC ACCOUNTING FIRM

To the Board of Directors & Stockholders
of Burzynski Research Institute, Inc.

We have audited the accompanying balance sheets of Burzynski Research Institute, Inc. as of 2/29/2012 & 2/28/2011 & the related statements of operations, stockholders’ deficit, & cash flows for the years then ended. These financial statements are the responsibility of the Company’s management. Our responsibility is to express an opinion on these financial statements based on our audits.

We conducted our audits in accordance with the standards of the Public Company Accounting Oversight Board (United States). Those standards require that we plan & perform the audits to obtain reasonable assurance about whether the financial statements are free of material misstatement. The Company is not required to have, nor were we engaged to perform, audits of its internal control over financial reporting. Our audits included consideration of internal control over financial reporting as a basis for designing audit procedures that are appropriate in the circumstances, but not for the purpose of expressing an opinion on the effectiveness of the Company’s internal control over financial reporting. Accordingly, we express no such opinion. An audit includes examining on a test basis, evidence supporting the amounts & disclosures in the financial statements. An audit includes assessing the accounting principles used & significant estimates made by management, as well as evaluating the overall financial statement presentation. We believe that our audits provide a reasonable basis for our opinion.

In our opinion, the financial statements referred to above present fairly, in all material respects, the financial position of Burzynski Research Institute, Inc. as of 2/29/2012 ‘ 2/28/2011, & the results of its operations & its cash flows for the years then ended, in conformity with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of America.
5/29/2012
Houston, Texas
/s/ Pannell Kerr Forster of Texas, P.C.
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BURZYNSKI RESEARCH INSTITUTE, INC.
BALANCE SHEETS
For the Years Ended 2/29/2012 & 2/28/2011

2012 / 2011

ASSETS

Current assets
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Cash & cash equivalents
$17,297 / $17,476
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Total current assets
17,297 / 17,476
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Property & equipment, net of accumulated depreciation
3,419/ 4,120
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Total assets
$20,716 / $21,596
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LIABILITIES & STOCKHOLDERS’ DEFICIT

Current liabilities
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Accounts payable
$12,265 / $39,223
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Accrued liabilities
49,699 / 33,628
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Total current liabilities
61,964 / 72,851
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Total liabilities
61,964 / 72,851
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Commitments & contingencies
— / —
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Stockholders’ deficit

Common stock, $.001 par value; 200,000,000 shares authorized; 131,448,444 shares issued & outstanding as of 2//9/2012 & 2/28/2011

131,449 / 131,449
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Additional paid-in capital
101,428,376 / 94,260,707
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Retained deficit
(101,601,073) / (94,443,411)
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Total stockholders’ deficit
(41,248) / (51,255)
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Total liabilities and stockholders’ deficit
$20,716 / $21,596
………………………………………………………………………………………..
The accompanying notes are an integral part of these financial statements.
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BURZYNSKI RESEARCH INSTITUTE, INC.
STATEMENTS OF OPERATIONS
For the Years Ended 2/29/2012 & 2/28/2011
2012 / 2011

Operating expenses
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Research & development
$6,925,519 / $4,780,072
………………………………………………………………………………………..
General & administrative
231,442 / 250,434
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Depreciation
701 / 736
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Total operating expenses
7,157,662 / 5,031,242
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Operating loss before other income
(7,157,662) / (5,031,242)
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Other income
— / —
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Loss before provision for income tax
(7,157,662) / (5,031,242)
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Income tax expense
— / —
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Net loss
$(7,157,662) / $(5,031,242)
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Net loss per common share:
Basic & diluted
$(0.05) / $(0.04)
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Weighted average common shares outstanding:
Basic & diluted
131,448,444 / 131,443,156
………………………………………………………………………………………..
The accompanying notes are an integral part of these financial statements.
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BURZYNSKI RESEARCH INSTITUTE, INC.
STATEMENTS OF STOCKHOLDERS’ DEFICIT
For the Years Ended 2/29/2012 & 2/28/2011

Additional

Total

Common Stock
Paid-in / Retained

Stockholders’
Shares / Amount

Capital
Deficit / Deficit
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Balance February 28, 2010
131,388,444 / $131,389 / $89,232,302 / $(89,412,169) / $(48,478)
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Cash contributed by S.R. Burzynski M.D., Ph.D.
— / — / 505,110 / — / 505,110
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Shares issued (60,000) for services rendered pursuant to prior year obligation
60,000 / 60 / (60) / — / —
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FDA clinical trial expenses paid directly by S.R. Burzynski M.D., Ph. D.
— / — / 4,523,355 / — / 4,523,355
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Net loss
— / — / — / (5,031,242) / (5,031,242)
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Balance 2/28/2011
131,448,444 / 131,449 / 94,260,707 / (94,443,411) / (51,255)
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Cash contributed by S.R. Burzynski M.D., Ph.D.
— / — / 503,885 / — / 503,885
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FDA clinical trial expenses paid directly by S.R. Burzynski M.D., Ph. D.
— / — / 6,663,784 / — / 6,663,784
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Net loss
— / — / — / (7,157,662) / (7,157,662)
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Balance 2/29/2012
131,448,444 / $131,449 / $101,428,376
$(101,601,073) / $(41,248)
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The accompanying notes are an integral part of these financial statements.
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BURZYNSKI RESEARCH INSTITUTE, INC.
STATEMENTS OF CASH FLOWS
For the Years Ended 2/29/2012 & 2/28/2011
2012 / 2011
………………………………………………………………………………………..
CASH FLOWS FROM OPERATING ACTIVITIES

Net loss
$(7,157,662) / $(5,031,242)
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Adjustments to reconcile net loss to net cash used by operating activities:

Depreciation
701 / 736
………………………………………………………………………………………..
FDA clinical trial expenses paid directly by S.R. Burzynski M.D., Ph. D.
6,663,784 / 4,523,355
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Change in operating assets & liabilities

Accounts payable
(26,958) / (2,548)
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Accrued liabilities
16,071 / 3,943
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NET CASH USED IN OPERATING ACTIVITIES
(504,064) / (505,756)
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CASH FLOWS FROM FINANCING ACTIVITIES
Cash contribution recorded
503,885 / 505,110
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NET CASH PROVIDED BY FINANCING ACTIVITIES
503,885 / 505,110
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NET DECREASE IN CASH
(179) / (646)
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CASH AT BEGINNING OF YEAR
17,476 / 18,122
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CASH AT END OF YEAR
$17,297 / $17,476
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SUPPLEMENTAL CASH FLOW DISCLOSURES:
Cash Paid During the Year For:
Taxes
$0 / $0
………………………………………………………………………………………..
The accompanying notes are an integral part of these financial statements.
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BURZYNSKI RESEARCH INSTITUTE, INC.
NOTES TO FINANCIAL STATEMENTS

1. Background, Basis of Presentation, Economic Dependency & Significant Accounting Policies:
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Background & Basis of Presentation

The financial statements of Burzynski Research Institute, Inc. (the Company), a Delaware corporation, include expenses incurred related to clinical trials, which were sanctioned by the U.S. Food & Drug Administration (FDA) in 1993, for antineoplaston drugs used in the treatment of cancer. These expenses are incurred directly by S.R. Burzynski, M.D., Ph.D. (Dr. Burzynski or “SRB”) on behalf of the Company & have been reported as research & development costs & as additional paid-in capital. Other funds received from Dr. Burzynski have also been reported as additional paid-in capital. Expenses related to Dr. Burzynski’s medical practice (unrelated to the clinical trials) have not been included in these financial statements. Dr. Burzynski is the President, Chairman of the Board & owner of 80.9% of the outstanding common stock of the Company, & also is the inventor & original patent holder of certain drug products knows as “antineoplastons,” which he has licensed to the Company.

The Company & Dr. Burzynski have entered into various agreements, as further described in Note 2, which provide the Company the exclusive right in the US, Canada & Mexico to use, manufacture, develop, sell, distribute, sublicense & otherwise exploit all the rights, titles & interest in antineoplaston drugs used in the treatment of cancer, once the drug is approved for sale by the FDA.

BRI’s administrative offices are located in Houston, Texas; its research & production facilities are in Stafford, Texas. The Company operates primarily as a research & development facility of antineoplaston drugs currently being tested for the use in the treatment of cancer, & provides consulting services. Segment information is not presented since all of the Company’s operations are attributed to a single reportable segment. The Company has had no significant revenue from external sources. The Company is currently conducting clinical trials on various antineoplastons in accordance with FDA regulations, however, at this time none of the antineoplaston drugs have received FDA approval; further, there can be no assurance FDA approval will be granted.
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Economic Dependency

BRI has generated no significant revenues since its inception. As of 2/29/2012, the Company had a working capital deficit of approximately $45,000 & accumulated deficit of approximately $101,601,000. For the years ended 2/29/2012 & 2/28/2011 the Company incurred losses of approximately $7,158,000 & $5,031,000, respectively.

Dr. Burzynski has funded the capital &operational needs of the Company since its inception from revenues generated through his medical practice pursuant to various agreements as described in Note 2.

The Company is economically dependent on its funding from Dr. Burzynski through his medical practice. Management estimates that approximately 1/10th of Dr. Burzynski’s patients are admitted & treated as part of the clinical trial programs which the FDA regulates. The FDA imposes numerous regulations & requirements regarding these patients & the Company is subject to inspection at any time by the FDA. These regulations are complex & subject to interpretation & though it is management’s intention to comply fully with all such regulations, there is the risk that the Company is not in compliance & is thus subject to sanctions imposed by the FDA.

In addition, as with any medical practice, Dr. Burzynski is subject to potential claims by patients & other potential claimants commonly arising out of the operation of a medical practice. The risks associated with Dr. Burzynski’s medical practice directly affect his ability to fund the operations of BRI.

It is the intention of the directors & management to seek additional capital through the sale of securities. The proceeds from such sales will be used to fund BRI’s operating deficit until it achieves positive operating cash flow. However, there can be no assurance that the Company will be able to raise such additional capital.
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Significant Accounting Policies
Cash & Cash Equivalents

The Company considers all highly liquid investments purchased with an original maturity of 3 months or less to be cash equivalents.
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Property & Equipment

Property & equipment are recorded at cost & depreciated using the straight-line method over the estimated useful lives of the assets, which range from 5 to 10 years. Expenditures for major renewals & betterments that extend the useful lives of property & equipment are capitalized; maintenance & repairs are charged against earnings as incurred. Upon disposal of assets, the related cost & accumulated depreciation are removed from the accounts & any resulting gain or loss is recognized currently.
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Income Taxes

The Company uses the asset & liability method of accounting for income taxes, under which deferred income taxes are recognized for the tax consequences of temporary differences by applying the enacted statutory tax rate applicable to future years to differences between financial statement carrying amounts & the tax basis of existing assets & liabilities.

Valuation allowances are established when necessary to reduce deferred tax assets to the amount expected to be realized. Income tax expense is the tax payable or refundable for the period plus or minus the change during the period in deferred tax assets & liabilities. The costs incurred related to the conduct of FDA approved clinical trials incurred directly by Dr. Burzynski within his medical practice are deducted by Dr. Burzynski & are not included in the Company’s tax provision. The portion of the Texas gross margin tax that is based on income is treated as income taxes & included in the income tax provision.

Financial Accounting Standards Board (FASB) Accounting Standards Codification (ASC) 740-10, Accounting for Uncertainty in Income Taxes, clarifies the accounting for income taxes by prescribing the minimum recognition threshold a tax position is required to meet before being recognized in the financial statements. ASC 740-10 also provides guidance on derecognition, measurement, classification, interest & penalties, accounting interim periods, disclosure, & transition. For the years ended 2/29/2012 & 2/28/2011, no uncertain tax positions were identified.
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Loss Per Common Share

Basic & diluted loss per common share information for all periods is presented under the requirements of FASB ASC 260 “Earnings per Share.” Basic loss per common share has been computed using the weighted average # of common shares outstanding during the period. Potentially dilutive securities have been excluded from the computation of diluted loss per common share, as their inclusion would be antidilutive.
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Research & Development

Research & development cost are charged to operations in the period incurred. Equipment used in research & development activities, which have alternative uses, is capitalized.
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Fair Value of Financial Instruments

The carrying value of cash & accounts payables approximates fair value due to the short term maturity of these instruments. None of the financial instruments are held for trading purposes.
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Management Estimates

The preparation of financial statements in conformity with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of America requires management to make estimates & assumptions that affect reported amounts of assets & liabilities at the dates of the financial statements & the reported amounts of revenues & expenses during the reported periods. The significant estimates are the allocation of payroll & other expenses between the clinical trial expenses reported with Burzynski Research Institute, Inc. &Dr. Burzynski’s medical practice expenses. Department managers review at least quarterly the duties of each employee in their department & estimate the percentage of time each employee spends between clinical trials & the medical practice. Payroll costs are allocated between clinical trials & the medical practice based on these percentages. Other expenses are allocated based on the % of payroll allocated to either clinical trials or the medical practice. Management believes that the estimates & allocations are reasonable. Actual results could differ from these estimates.
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Stock Options

The Company accounts for stock-based compensation under the provisions of FASB ASC 718, “Compensation — Stock Compensation”, which requires the measurement & recognition of compensation expense for all share-based payment awards made to employees &non-employee officers based on estimated fair values as of the date of grant. Compensation expense is recognized on a straight-line basis over the requisite service period.

The Company did not grant any options & no options previously granted vested in any of the periods presented in these financial statements. Thus, there was no effect on net loss & earnings per share regarding the provisions of FASB ASC 718 in any of the periods presented.
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2. Agreements With, & Other Related Party Transactions:

The Company has agreements with its majority shareholder & President Dr. Burzynski as further described below:
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License Agreement

Dr. Burzynski is the owner of patents involving the formulation, preparation, manufacture, production, use, dosage & treatment with antineoplastons. The US Office & Patent Offices & Patent Officers of 34 other countries have issued the patents. The Patents for cancer treatment & diagnosis in the US & Canada are licensed to the Company pursuant to a License Agreement.

The License Agreement grants to the Company the exclusive right, in the US, Canada, & Mexico, to use, manufacture, develop, sell, distribute, sub-license & otherwise exploit all of Dr. Burzynski’s rights, title, & interests, including patent rights, in antineoplaston drugs in the treatment & diagnosis of cancer. The Company will not be able to exploit such rights until such time as antineoplastons are approved, of which there can be no assurance, by the FDA for sale in the US & the appropriate authority in Canada & Mexico.

The Agreement gives Dr. Burzynski the right to make, use, sell, distribute, & otherwise exploit antineoplastons in connection with the treatment of patients in his medical practice.

The License Agreement will terminate upon the earlier of the expiration of the last patent licensed to the Company, or termination by Dr. Burzynski, at his option, if he is removed as a director or officer of the Company without his consent, if the Company files for bankruptcy or if any shareholder or group of shareholders acting in concert becomes the beneficial owner of the Company’s securities having voting power = to or greater than the voting power of the securities Dr. Burzynski holds.

Under the License Agreement, the Company currently owns exclusive rights to 8 issued US Patents, 4 issued Canadian Patents & 1 issued Mexican Patent.

The 5 initial US Patents (the “Initial Patents”) relate to: (i) Determination of Antineoplastons in body tissue or fluids as a testing procedure to aid in the diagnosis of cancer; (ii) Processes for the preparation of purified fractions of Antineoplastons from human urine; (iii) Processes for the synthetic production of Antineoplastons & methods of treating neoplastic disease (cancer); (iv) Administration of Antineoplastons to humans; & (v) Methods of synthesizing A-10. All of these Initial Patents have expired as of 2/28/2009. The Company does not believe the expiration of any of the Initial Patents will have a material adverse effect on the Company.

The 6th US Patent (the “2000 U.S. Patent”) covers Liposomal Antineoplaston therapies with markedly improved anti-cancer activity. The 2000 U.S. Patent expires 5.14/2017.

The 7th US Patent (the “2001 U.S. Patent”) is for a treatment regimen for the administration of phenylacetylglutamine, phenylacetylisoglutamine, and/or phenylacetate. The 2001 U.S. Patent expires on 8.23/2018.

The 8th US Patent (the “2005 U.S. Patent”) relates to a divisional application to the 2001 U.S. Patent. The 2005 U.S. Patent was issued in September 2005 & will expire 7.31/2018.

The 4 Canadian Patents (the “Canadian Patents”) relate to: (i) Processes for the preparation of purified fractions of Antineoplastons from human urine, (ii) Processes for the synthetic production of Antineoplastons & methods of treating neoplastic disease (cancer), (iii) Liposomal formulation of Antineoplastons & (iv) Treatment regimen for the administration of phenylacetylglutamine. The Canadian Patents expired or will expire on 6/4/2002, 11/14/2006, 5.14/2017, & 7.2/2019, respectively; however, the Company does not believe the Canadian Patents that expired in 2002 or in 2006 will have a material adverse effect on the Company.

The Mexican Patent relates to a treatment regimen for the administration of phenylacetylglutamine. This patent will expire 1.14/2019.
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Research Funding Agreement

Effective 3/1/1997, Dr. Burzynski restructured his funding arrangement with the Company & entered into a Research Funding Agreement. Under this agreement the 2 parties agreed to the following:
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1. The Company agrees to undertake all scientific research in connection with the development of new or improved antineoplastons for the treatment of cancer. The Company will hire such personnel as is required to fulfill its obligations under the agreement.
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2. Dr. Burzynski agrees to fund in its entirety all basic research, which the Company undertakes in connection with the development of other antineoplastons or refinements to existing antineoplastons for the treatment of cancer.
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3. As FDA approval of antineoplastons will benefit both parties, Dr. Burzynski agrees to pay the expenses to conduct the clinical trials for the Company.
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4. Dr. Burzynski agrees to provide the Company such laboratory & research space as the Company needs at the facility in Stafford, Texas, & such office space as is necessary at Trinity Drive and at his medical facility.
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5. In the event the research described in the agreement results in the approval of any additional patents for the treatment of cancer, Dr. Burzynski shall own all such patents, but shall license to the Company the patents based on the same terms, conditions & limitations as is in the current license between the parties.
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6. Dr. Burzynski shall have unlimited & free access to all equipment which the Company owns, so long as such use is not in conflict with the Company’s use of such equipment, including without limitation to all equipment used in manufacturing of antineoplastons used in the clinical trials.
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7. The amounts, which Dr. Burzynski is obligated to pay under the agreement, shall be reduced dollar for dollar by the following:
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a. Any income which the Company receives for services provided to other companies for research and/or development of other products, less such identifiable marginal or additional expenses necessary to produce such income (such as the purchase of chemicals, products or equipment) solely necessary to engage in such other research & development

activity, &
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b. The net proceeds of any stock offering or private placement, which the Company receives during the term of the engagement up to a maximum of $1,000,000 in a given Company fiscal year.
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8. Effective 3/1/2012, the term of the Research Funding Agreement was extended to 2/28/2013, & is automatically renewable for an additional 1-year term thereafter, unless one party notifies the other party at least 30 days prior to the expiration of the term of the agreement of its intention not to renew the agreement. In addition to the foregoing termination provisions, the agreement automatically terminates in the event that Dr. Burzynski owns less than 50# of the outstanding shares of the Company, or is removed as President and/or Chairman of the Board of the Company, unless Dr. Burzynski notifies the Company in writing of his intention to continue the agreement notwithstanding this automatic termination provision.
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Royalty Agreement

The Company entered into a royalty agreement with Dr. Burzynski whereby upon receiving FDA approval for interstate marketing & distribution, the Company agrees to pay Dr. Burzynski a royalty interest equivalent to 10% of the Company’s gross income, which royalty interest shall include gross receipts from all future sales, distributions & manufacture of antineoplastons. Dr. Burzynski will have the right to either produce antineoplaston products for use in his medical practice to treat up to 1,000 patients without paying any fees to the Company, or purchase from the Company antineoplaston products for use in his medical practice to treat up to 1,000 patients at a price of the Company’s cost to produce the antineoplaston products plus 10%. Dr. Burzynski will also have the right to either lease or purchase all the manufacturing equipment located at Stafford, Texas at a fair market price. The Company will also have the right to lease from Dr. Burzynski the entire premise located at Stafford, Texas at arms-length terms & rates competitive with those available in the market at that time, provided that Dr. Burzynski does not need the facility for his use.

The term of this agreement is indefinite & will continue until such time as both parties agree it is not in their mutual interest to continue.
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Other Related Party Transactions

Dr. Burzynski owns the production facility located at Trinity Drive. There is no formal lease agreement between Dr. Burzynski & the Company; however, the Research Funding Agreement described above provides that Dr. Burzynski will allow the Company the use of the building. In addition, the Royalty Agreement states that after FDA approval is granted (though approval is not assured) the Company may rent the facility at competitive rates if Dr. Burzynski does not need the facility for his use. The actual facility costs are included in the financial statements as set forth in Note 5. In addition, Dr. Burzynski’s medical clinic performs certain administrative functions such as accounting, & allows the Company the use of some office space. Since May of 2000, Dr. Burzynski’s entire salary is paid through his medical practice & he is not compensated directly by the Company for his services.

The Company has received all significant funding from Dr. Burzynski through either cash contributed to the Company or the payment of the cost to conduct FDA approved clinical trials through his medical practice, as disclosed in Note 1. Following is a summary of the capital contributed & clinical trial costs paid by Dr. Burzynski for the years ended 2/29/2012 & 2/28/2011, respectively.

2012 / 2011
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Capital contributed
$503,885 / $505,110
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Clinical trial costs paid direct
$6,663,784 / $4,523,355
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3. Property & Equipment:

Property & equipment consists of the following as of 2/29/2012 & 2/28/2011, respectively:
Estimated
Useful Lives
2012 / 2011
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Furniture & equipment
5 – 10 years
$22,415 / $22,415
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Total property & equipment
22,415 / 22,415
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Accumulated depreciation
(18,996) / (18,295)
$3,419 / $4,120
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Depreciation expense for the years ended 2/29/2012 & 2/28/2011 was $701 & $736, respectively.
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4. Employee Benefits:

The employees of the Company & SRB participate in a self-funded employee benefit plan providing health care benefits for all its employees. It also provides for them group dental insurance, short-term & long-term disability insurance, & life insurance. Employees pay pre-tax premiums from $105 to $430 per month depending upon the insurance coverage selected by the employee. Employees can select from 2 coverage plans, both of which have a $500 deductible, & varying out-of-pocket maximums.

Due to stop-loss insurance, benefits payable by the Company are limited to $25,000 per person during the policy year. The Company charged to operations a provision of $342,035 for 2012 & $294,319 for 2011, which represents the sum of actual claims paid & an estimate of liabilities relating to claims, both asserted & unasserted, resulting from incidents that occurred during the year. These amounts include costs related to employees of SRB that have been allocated to the Company.

The Company has a qualified 401(k) plan which covers substantially all employees meeting certain eligibility requirements. Participants may contribute a portion of their compensation to the plan, up to the maximum amount permitted under Section 401(k) of the Internal Revenue Code. At the Company’s discretion, it can match a portion of the participants’ contributions. The Company’s matching contribution was $483 & $478 for the years ended 2//9/2012 & 2/28/2011, respectively.
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5. Lease commitments:

Dr. Burzynski leases certain equipment used in the clinical trials under leases maturing in 1 to 4 years. Rent expense incurred under these leases was $164,894 & $91,392 for the years ended 2/29/2012 & 2/28/2011, respectively. Future minimum lease payments for the 4 years subsequent to 2/29/2012 are as follows:
2013 $122,808
2014 32,453
2015 17,268
2016 14,390 / $186,919
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In addition, as explained in Note 2, Dr. Burzynski owns the facility used by the Company to perform research & produce its drug products. There is currently no lease agreement; however, the facility’s costs are included in the accompanying financial statements as rental expense. The rental expense is derived from not only utilities & expenses normally incurred by a tenant but also mortgage interest, insurance, property taxes & building depreciation. Rent expense totaled $263,922 & $252,604 for 2012 & 2011, respectively.
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6. Income Taxes:

The costs incurred related to the conduct of FDA approved clinical trials incurred directly by Dr. Burzynski within his medical practice are deducted by Dr. Burzynski & are not included in the Company’s tax provision.

The actual income tax benefit attributable to the Company’s losses for the years ended 2/29/2012 & 2/28/2011 differ from the amounts computed by applying the U.S. federal income tax rate of 34% to the pretax loss as a result of the following:
2012 / 2011
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Expected benefit
$(2,433,605) / $(1,710,622)
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Effect of expenses deducted directly by Dr. Burzynski
2,433,605 / 1,710,622
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Other adjustments
165,068 / 77,251
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Change in valuation allowance
(165,068) / (77,251)
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Income tax expense
$— / $—
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The components of the Company’s deferred income tax assets as of 2//9/2012 & 2/28/2011 are as follows:
2012 / 2011
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Deferred tax assets:

Net operating loss carryforwards
$159,410 / $325,855
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Excess book (tax) depreciation
(641) / (672)
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Accrued expenses
7,238 / 5,892
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Alternative minimum tax credit carryforwards
42,603 / 42,603
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Total deferred tax assets
208,610 / 373,678
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Less valuation allowance (208,610)(373,678)
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Net deferred tax assets
$ — / $ —
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The Company’s ability to utilize net operating loss carryforwards & alternative minimum tax credit carryforwards will depend on its ability to generate adequate future taxable income. The Company has no historical earnings on which to base an expectation of future taxable income. Accordingly, a valuation allowance for the total deferred tax assets has been provided.

The Company has net operating loss carryforwards available to offset future income in the amount of $468,854 as of 2/29/2012. The net operating loss carryforwards expire as follows:
Year ending February 28, or 29,
2013 $52,840
2020 $49,976
2021 $24,116
2022 $67,855
2023 $73,401
2024 $69,394
2025 $13,475
2026 $46,972
2027 $31,220
2028 $7,737
2029 $31,868
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In addition, the Company has alternative minimum tax credit carryforwards of $42,603 at 2/29/2012.
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7. Equity Transactions:

On 9/14/1996, the Company granted 600,000 stock options, with an exercise price of $0.35 per share, to an officer who is no longer with the Company. The options vested as follows:
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400,000 options 9/14/1996
100,000 options 6/1/1997
100,000 options 6/1/1998
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The options are valid in perpetuity. None of the options have been exercised as of 2/29/2012.

On 6/1/2009, the Company approved the issuance of 60,000 shares of the Company’s Common Stock as compensation for services rendered to the Company & were fair valued at approximately $9,400. The shares were sold pursuant to an exemption from registration under Section 4(2) of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, to a single accredited investor & did not involve a public offering.
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8. Commitments & Contingencies & Supply Source:

In the ordinary course of conducting business, the Company may be a party to legal proceedings & claims. As of 2//9/2012 the Company does not expect the final outcome of any such matters to have a material adverse effect on its financial position, results of operations, or cash flows.

As described in Note 2, the Company entered a Royalty Agreement with Dr. Burzynski. Under that agreement, upon FDA approval, the Company is obligated to provide Dr. Burzynski the right to produce antineoplaston products to treat up to 1,000 patients without paying any fees to the Company or the right to purchase antineoplaston products to treat up to 1,000 patients at cost plus 10%.

The Company produced antineoplaston products to treat approximately 90 patients during the year ended 2/29/2012 & 35 to 40 patients during the year ended 2/28/2011. Management estimates the current production facilities have the capacity to produce product to treat approximately 1,500 patients per year. There is space available at the current site to expand the facility for increased capacity if necessary.

The Company received approximately 89% of the chemicals used in producing antineoplastons from 1 supplier during the year ended 2//9/2012 & 83% during the year ended 2/28/2011. The Company has established additional vendors to supply these chemicals should there be a loss of this supplier.
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12/8 Comments:
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flip, flippant again Aye?
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Krebiozen, great job of re-posting basically everything I posted. The difference is, you ASSUME (make an ASS out of U & ME) & I don’t assume.
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MarkL, nice to-quack! I can tell that Reading Comprehension is not your strong suit.
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Krebiozen, ask Jodi Gold Fenton.
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Antaeus Feldspar, nice tu-quack!
We have something here in America called the Declaration of Independence, The United States Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. I know you don’t understand the concept.
I think you’re full of Fecal matter.
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Chris, how original! You have shown that you are able to use the same word as flip!! Congratulations!!!
Now if you could only figure out how to apologize!
Hey GLEEVEC fanatic, how it that your fave drug got through trials so fast? Were the required by the FDA to use Radiation as part of their Clinical Trial? If “No,” Why Not?
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Marc Stepbens Is Insane, there’s a difference between “throwing people underthe Bus,” and following the Law.
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12/9 Comments:
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herr doktor bimler, you do know that the U.S. has more people in prison than China or Russia, Right? And SRB isn’t one of them.
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Narad, the Big Difference between me & you is that i actually filed my own suit vs. Gub-ment & won, without an Attorney. Sounds like you’re vying with Antaeus Feldspar to find out which one of you is possibly more full of excrement.
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flip, what’s-a-matter? Lose your sense of humor, or have you ever had one? At least I read “The Fatal Shore: The Epic of Australia’s Founding.” Did you? Or was the 628 pgs. too much for you?
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Antaeus Feldspar, especially if you can’t figure out by now that I’m placing the date(s) my comments refer to since 12/6. Thanks for paying attention!
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herr doktor bimler, the only thing that comes to my mind around here is “tu-quack!”
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Narad, I’m thinking of switching to Anthony Hopkins.
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Chemmomo, I am utilizing Charles Darwin’s theory of Natural Selection. But I didn’t come from Monkeys.

@DJT – why yes, you managed to cut and paste an SEC filing….so where exactly would that be considered “science” and publication of results in qualified medical journals – oh yeah, and also showing multiple positive results from replication of his results by others?

You don’t seem to understand how real medical science operates, but you sure do understand the cut and paste functions on your computers……but again, they aren’t the same thing.

Who knew DJT could make me miss Th1Th2 so much? At least her droppings were succinct.

@Agashem – I still can’t understand what point he/she/it is trying to make, since almost everything is just “word salad.”

That’s three. So, folks, Diddums has just admitted that Burzynski’s performance of “clinical trials” is just a scam allowing him to sell a treatment without having to prove that the treatment has any real benefit, and Diddums thinks that’s okay ’cause Burzynski shouldn’t have to follow the rules.

DJT, u should stick to watchin things go round in circles real quick, cause this thinking thing, it ain’t workin

DJT,

Krebiozen, great job of re-posting basically everything I posted.

Unlike you I put the information into a coherent and comprehensible form and added the information you omitted, such as the methods used to make the measurements i.e. CT, MRI or proton magnetic resonance spectroscopy, and the fact that 97% of Jodi’s tumor, as measured by MRI, disappeared between 05/11/00 and 06/01/00, that she had surgery on the tumor on 05/15/00 and that she started Burzynski’s treatment on 06/06/00.

The difference is, you ASSUME (make an ASS out of U & ME) & I don’t assume.

You don’t need any assistance in making an ass out of yourself, you seem to have an extraordinary talent for it, judging by your performance here.

Would you care to point out what I have assumed, and what alternate explanation you think is more likely?

S:

What factors would distinguish between between a physician using what they might call ‘off-label medications as treatments’ and a physician conducting studies and trials with the same medications on their patients? If they are using the drugs off-label, and no studies have been done to evidence their effectiveness in a given condition, what’s the difference? If the physician calls them “studies”, would that be relevant?

Well, one major factor is that you cannot prescribe a drug off-label if it actually has no on-label indication. It has to be approved to treat *something* before you can prescribe it off-label. AFAIK, the antineoplastons are not yet approved for any indication. The only way they can be given is as part of an approved trial, or under a humanitarian waiver. The former approach is really the only one applicable to Burzynski’s situation.

Off-label prescribing doesn’t require a study. However, excessive off-label prescribing may impede studies of the drug for that indication, because who’d enter a study if they can already get the drug through normal channels? So it is controversial from a scientific perspective for that reason. From a medical or ethical perspective, well, that depends on the situation.

Just noticed that the troll says he didn’t come from a monkey. Really, good reading of evolutionary theory. (snark)

I notice all these posts that say SRB does not publish

He hasn’t published the results of the clinical trials he’s supposedly been conducting for the past couple fo decades (a summary paragraph in an SEC filing does not represent a clinical study report).

Narad, the Big Difference between me & you is that i actually filed my own suit vs. Gub-ment & won, without an Attorney.

There’s also the difference that I actually have some grasp of English capitalization, but I digress. Do go on, as this pro se story promises to be quite amusing.

@Narad:

No, the Big Difference between you and Sir Diddimus is that your posts are legible, relevant and concise.

@Denice

Regarding Gary Null who frighten people away from psychiatric meds for learning disabilities and mental illness in children,

I would err on the side of caution for a few factors: the proponent of psych meds for mental illness in childs was Nemeroff, an MD/PhD who was recipient of both NIMH grant as well as paychecks for promoting psych meds for childs (and numerous other condition) and he also polluted the literature with ghost-written articles and a textbook (for GP). On the other hands, for Ritalin (& other stimulant), I’m not sure either way because most of the proponent seem to be primary grade teachers who have too many pupils in the classroom; are there objective measurement method to determine if a children need stimulant?

Alain

@ Didysquat,

Your post seem more legible and include some data but the big unknown is that we don’t know the status of the tumors in Burzinsky patient and also, do they respond to the chemotherapy or the antineoplaston or both; there is no way to know based on your data even thought it may fit the criteria asked by the FDA.

Alain

@ Alain:

Certainly there is over-prescription.
However, woo-meisters like those I survey admonish ANY and ALL usage of meds for any condition including SMI and LD in people of ALL ages.

@ Denice,

Got it; these peoples takes any reasonable positions and push them to their extreme.

Alain

12/8 Comments:
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Antaeus Feldspar, so you wanna play “3 Questions?”

OK. The only way this is going to happen is if you answer MY 3 Questions as well, which I will pose when I have some time.

Agree?

OK. The only way this is going to happen is if you answer MY 3 Questions as well, which I will pose when I have some time.

You appear to be having yet more difficulties with reading comprehension.

DJT:

OK. The only way this is going to happen is if you answer MY 3 Questions as well, which I will pose when I have some time.

You shall get no where until you answer my one question: post the title, journal and date of the PubMed indexed paper showing that the results of a Burzynski Phase 2 clinical trial showed that his methods were as effective with a direct quote explaining it was as effective for that particular cancer as an approved and conventional treatment like Gleevec is for what it is approved for.

Come on. Do it. It should take you less than ten lines of verbiage to provide that answer.

As Narad alludes to, it’s not “3 Questions”; it’s a single question which you were given a limit of three comments in which to answer. If you can’t even get that much correct, it doesn’t exactly give anyone reason to think you have brilliant insights about Burzynski.

I don’t think you realize that people who come here are expected to discuss their views like civil, honest, and intelligent adults. One thing that means is that, when people ask you a civil question relevant to the topic of discussion and well within your power to answer, you don’t ignore that question in favor of, oh, say, spamming an SEC filing instead. When you do ignore those questions, that’s when it becomes necessary to introduce negative incentives to discourage that ignoring of inconvenient questions.

You could, of course, attempt to pose ultimatum questions to me in turn. But in fact it would be rather pointless to do so; I’m not the one who’s been dodging questions in the first place, nor Gish-galloping around, nor dragging the same smelly red herring across the trail over and over. If you were to actually ask a reasonable and relevant question, I’d answer it as best I could, but if you were the kind of person who asked reasonable and relevant questions in the first place, we’d never have had to resort to ultimatum questions at all.

I repeat from above (in between the copypasta):

I forget, is DJT being *neutral* towards Burzyinski, or not? Because he does seem to be going out of his way to defend him…

@Agashem

Who knew DJT could make me miss Th1Th2 so much? At least her droppings were succinct.

Ramen.

@DJT

The difference is, you ASSUME (make an ASS out of U & ME) & I don’t assume.

Unless it involves what other people do or do not know about history/medicine/law/English language….

Funny how you condemn Dr. Burzinski but then you have no other solution. Its absolutely hysterical.

Its so funny to me that there can be so many brainwashed people who believe everything the government and the media say. Honestly. Wake Up.

Sadly I am wasting my time right now chatting to a bunch of brainless and utterly hopeless bunch of sheep who will know no better. So without further will do, im off. Have a nice day.

12/9 Comments:
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Denice Walter, thank you for your erudite observations, but nowhere did I offer an opinion, just “FACTS.”
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Now, if you want an OPINION, in my OPINION the most important “FACT” is that:
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“[n]one of the oncologists who originally diagnosed each patient in the film would agree to go on-camera, or submit a written statement.”
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What was Orac’s MOTIVATION to NOT post this in the blog post?
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After all, in Orac’s 11/29 blog it leads the reader to believe that the goal was to be:
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“reviewing Burzynski The Movie and bringing what attention I can to it.”
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Let’s analyze Orac’s post since it contains a link by selecting “overall just a plain bad movie,” to Orac’s 11/29 blog.
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Here, the reader learns that Orac prefers to:
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“…concentrate on science much more than moviemaking…”
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Our good Friend flip flippantly flouts his “Conspiracy Theory” that it is my intent to DEFEND SRB!

Whilst I posit that flip is flip-flopping & maybe doesn’t understand the grand idea of DEFENDING the TRUTH.

As Jack Nicholson said in the 1992 movie “A Few Good Men,” “You Can’t Handle the Truth.”
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I can sympathize with flip since maybe Jesse Ventura’s “63 Documents the Government Doesn’t Want You to Read” has whipped flip into a furious curious frenzy!!
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Orac assures the reader.
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“I might even look into a couple of Burzynski’s studies that I’ve read and found to be–well–lacking, to put it kindly.”
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To put it kindly, what is Orac’s “Review,” well-lacking?

(Using Orac’s own words.)
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Is it Orac who “certainly deserves a heapin’ helpin’ of not-so-Respectful Insolence, but, oddly enough, hasn’t gotten it. One might even say, he’s been Insolenopenic, if you know what I mean.”

(Using Orac’s own words.)
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Of course, I can fix that.

(Using Orac’s own words.)
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I wonder if Galileo ever let FACTS get in the way of SCIENCE? (Or Orac?)
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We have to give Orac some credit for at least providing a link to the TruthMovies interview with Merola, (by selecting “claims the movie was his idea”) after Orac does a fine job of kicking him in the mud underthe proverbial Bus.
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Orac doesn’t seem to want to believe him, but maybe Orac is a “Conspiracy Theorist” akin to our Friend flipper.
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Orac advised readers that:
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“[t]he documentary was awful, …and overall just a plain bad movie.”
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Obviously, some people thought otherwise based on the Awards the Documentary.has won & a number of “reviews” of the Documentary.
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Kevin Thomas of the Los Angeles Times “reviewed” the Documentary 6/17/2010. Yet his review is not on the LATimes on-line archive, though articles done the same day are.
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Conspiracy Theory?
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Orac calls Merola a “Propogandist,” “He’s a hack,” & “a shill.”
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Orac, please tell us how you really feel !!!
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For someone who claimed above:
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“…concentrate on science much more than moviemaking…,”
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Orac sure opines a lot about the “moviemaking.”
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By the time I got through reading Orac’s “Review,” I was drained.

(to use Orac’s own words.)
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Orac even cites “Quackwatch;” which has an interesting “Legal History,” but lets not get side-tracked by that.
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Orac states to the reader:
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“In the movie, little snippets of these reports, key parts of the text highlighted in yellow, are rapidly flashed onscreen, after which they disappear…”
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I have 1 word for you, Orac. “PAUSE.”
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There’s a “Pause” function you can use; just as you would when viewing Big Pharma adds on TV with their tiny legal medical warnings re their drugs & all their side-effects.
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Orac mentions the “Conspiracy Theory” soup of the “NCI,” “Texas Medical Board,” FDA,” & “Big Pharma,” but lets not get sidetracked by that subject-matter either.
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Orac whines & whines & whines about the “moviemaking,” instead of the “Science.”

(To use Orac’s own words.)
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Lets look at the “FACTS,” shall we?
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Instead of just linking to an Article about Merola, lets actually “review” what HE said.
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5/26/2010 in Yes! Weekly.
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“I just became obsessed with the story,…and the more time I spent with Burzynski, his patients and his story, the more obsessed and excited I became.”
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“I haven’t had a single audience member approach me after a screening and criticize or question the validity of the information in the film.”
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“There is nothing in the film that is ‘assumed,’ ‘theoretical’ or not backed by the highest of documentation and forensic evidence.”
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“I have trouble seeing what, if anything, the FDA can possibly say about the film to discredit it.”
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“The only thing perhaps they can do is discredit me — which is usually what happens to directors like me. It’s going to be interesting to see what happens. I am prepared for anything.”
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In the interest of disclosure & transparency, I contacted Merola re his comments.
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6/3/10 in TrustMovies;
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I’m not really sure how to respond to that one. I made a living in advertising, never really enjoyed it. I sort of got stuck in it, while always wanting to be in TV & Film. This is obviously an attack on my character, while ignoring the subject matter.
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(Re the 6/1/10 Village Voice “hack” “Yellow Journalism” piece – My OPINION.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yellow_journalism&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism
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As I stated in my press kit, I have always been interested in documentaries that delve into hard truths, I’m a huge fan of “The Cove,” “Food Inc,” “Why We Fight,” “No End In Sight,” and so on.
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Orac – “I have to wonder whether Dr. Burzynski just hired Merola to make an infomercial.”
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Orac, there’s your answer.
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I had originally included many of the opposition in the film, but I cut them for the final running time.
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For instance, Dr. Keith Black, a famous neurosurgeon in LA was on Larry King last fall sitting right next to Burzynski and waved around those invalid NCI trials as “proof” the treatment doesn’t work.
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i had planned on calling him out on it.
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Second Dr. Black also claimed that the brain tumor patient he sent to Burzynski died shortly after.
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Well, the reality is, Jodi Fenton, who is the first patient in my film consulted with Dr. Black before going to Burzynski.
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Dr. Black told her he was a fraud and a quack.
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30 days later – Jodi was cured of her brain tumor.
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Dr. Black fails to acknowledge this.
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As Jodi said in the film
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he just wrote it off”.
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I did have the film packed with “opposition”, but between running time and meeting the goals I felt I had to meet plus just looking at how absurd the “opposition” is, I decided to cut it.
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Again, anyone can spend hours reading the opposition.
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However, I also think that I do show some opposition in the film.
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Orac makes various statements re Antineoplastons:
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“as a promising new treatment that can do much better than existing therapies with much less toxicity, even though there’s no evidence that it can.”
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“unproven therapy”
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“The short version of the story behind antineoplastons is that there is no good basic science or clinical evidence to suggest that antineoplastons have any significant activity against cancer.”
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“When other researchers do a trial with his neoplastons, the results aren’t nearly as promising; in fact, the results are pretty much always negative, and significant adverse reactions are observed.”
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Orac -[NOTE: The Documentary Channel has apparently asserted a copyright claim and forced YouTube to take the video down
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I found at least 7 YouBoobTube links.
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Let’s NOT let “SCIENCE” get in the way of “FACTS.”
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1. Wikipedia – Mayo Clinic study found no benefit.
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That was not what the study concluded.
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2/1999

“CONCLUSION: Although we could not confirm any tumor regression in patients in this study, the small sample size precludes definitive conclusions about treatment efficacy.”
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2. 1/1/1986 – SR Burzynski

Drugs Exp Clin Res, January 1, 1986; 12 Suppl 1: 1-9.
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Historical medicinal use of urine & urine extracts known for centuries in ancient times.
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1897 Research initiated by Polish researcher.
1937 1st modern study of certain substances in urine.
1967 Research began when significant differences noted in cancer patients compared to control group.
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Research programme established for identification of antineoplastic from urine.
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Antineoplastons found to be completely different from certain derivatives isolated from urine by other authors.
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Research of urine led to Antineoplaston A1, A2, A3, A4 & A5, which possessed high anticancer activity & low toxicity.
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1st active component named A10.
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2 Synthetic derivatives of A10 named AS2-1 & AS2-5.
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All antineoplaston formulations submitted for Phase I clinical studies in advanced cancer patients.
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Treatment free from significant side-effects & resulted in objective response in # of advanced cancer cases.
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3. 1/1987- MC Liau, M Szopa, B Burzynski, & SR Burzynski.
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Drugs Exp Clin Res, Jan 1987; 13 Suppl 1: 71-6. PMID: .3569019
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Synthetic Antineoplaston A10 shown to produce promising clinical results, similar to those obtained with antineoplastons derived from urine.
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A10 capable of reducing excessive excretions often associated with cancer patients, boosting levels of antineoplaston.
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Therapeutic partially attributable to antineoplastons, the level of which A10 can help to raise.
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Patient must have certain reserve of antineoplastons to benefit from therapy with A10.
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Patients who responded favourably to treatment with A10 invariably showed an increase of certain levels & decrease of certain urinary excretions.
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Results suggest body, under normal circumstances, is protected by antineoplastons against cancer.
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4. 1/1/1994 – M Juszkiewicz, A Chodkowska, SR Burzynski, M Feldo, B Majewska, and Z Kleinrok
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Drugs Exp Clin Res, Jan 1994; 20(4): 161-7. PMID: .7813388
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Influence of A5 on certain structures.
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Antineoplastons naturally occurring…agents.
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Exist in blood, tissues & urine.
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In clinical trials in advanced cancer, in addition to anticancer activity it was observed that patients suffering from both cancer & Parkinson’s disease exhibited marked improvement in parkinsonian… when treated with A5.
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Present study designed to analyse the influence of A5 on certain structures.
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Mice & rats given A5 intraperitoneally at 3 different dosage levels.
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Experiments demonstrated A5 stimulates certain receptors.
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5. 11/1997 – Authors: H Tsuda, M Sata, H Saitsu, K Yamana, H Hara, S Yamada, T Kumabe
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Affiliations: KURUME UNIV,SCH MED,DEPT SURG,
KURUME UNIV,SCH MED,DEPT INTERNAL MED. KURUME UNIV,SCH MED,DEPT RADIOL,
KURUME,FUKUOKA 830,JAPAN.
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Oncology reports, November 1997, Volume 4 Number 6
Pages: 1213-1216
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AS2-1 exhibits certain growth inhibition of human…carcinoma cells in vitro & showed minimum adverse effects in phase I clinical trial.
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Reviewed 2 clinical cases of liver cancer in whom we believe A2-1 was useful as maintenance therapy after TAE & MCN.
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2 patients continued to be in good condition for more than 2 years without limitation of normal activities.
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AS2-1 may be effective & useful as maintenance agent…in patients with liver cancer.
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6. 5 – 6/1998 – Authors: H Tsuda, M Sata, T Kumabe, H Hara, N Eriguchi, Y Sugita, H Nagamatsu
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Affiliations: Department of Anesthesiology, Kurume University, School of Medicine, 67 Asahimachi, Kurumeshi, Fukuokaken, 830, Japan.
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Oncology Reports, May-Jun 1998, Volume 5 Number 3
Pages: 597.- 1197
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A10 & AS2-1 exhibit growth inhibition of cancer cells.
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Observed antitumor responses within 2-3 weeks of combination treatment of…therapy & A10 & AS2-1 in phase I clinical study conducted in Kurume University Hospital.
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Reviewed 3 clinical cases of advanced cancer in which we believed A10 & AS2-1 may be contributing to rapid antitumor response.
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7. 11.- 12/1998 – Authors: T Kumabe, H Tsuda, M Uchida, Y Ogoh, N Hayabuchi, M Sata, O Nakashima, H Hara
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Affiliations: Department of Radiology, Kumabe Hospital, Kurume University School of Medicine, Kurumeshi, Fukuokaken 830.-0011, Japan.
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Oncology Reports, Nov-Dec 1998, Volume 5 Number 6
Pages: 1363-1370
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A10 injection exhibited…growth inhibition of human…carcinoma cells in vitro & showed minimum adverse effects in a phase I clinical trial.
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Reviewed 2 cases of advanced HCC treated with A10 I.
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Both cases showed interesting responses to A10 I.
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1 showed massive coagulation necrosis of tumors after…infusion of A10 I & other showed resolution of…tumor thrombosis with systemic infusion of A10 I.
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8. 6/1/1999 – SR Burzynski
Mayo Clin Proc, June 1, 1999; 74(6): 641-2., PMID: .10377942
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9. 1.- 2/2002 – Authors: H. Tsuda, M. Sata, H. Ijuuin, T. Kumabe, M. Uchida, Y. Ogou, Y. Akagi, K. Shirouzu, H. Hara, Y. Nakashima
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Affiliations: Department of Anesthesiology, Kurume University, School of Medicine, Fukuoka-ken .830-0011, Japan
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Oncology Reports, January-February 2002, Volume 9 Number 1, Pages: 65-68
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A10 & AS2-1 chemically identified & synthesized antineoplastons proven to inhibit cancer cell growth by…inhibiting tumor growth.
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Cases of advanced cancer responded well to combination treatment…with A10 & AS2-1 in clinical trials being conducted in Kurume University Hospital.
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10 4/2003 – SR Burzynski
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Med Hypotheses, Apr 2003; 60(4): 578-83., PMID: .12615527
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Antineoplastons work as…switches, turning inactive tumor suppressor genes back on.
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While they activate tumor suppressor genes, they also activate some additional genes silenced during aging process.
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11. 3/1-2004 – Stanislaw R. Burzynski, Burzynski Research Institute, Houston, TX
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doi: 10.1177/1534735403261964 Integr Cancer Ther March 2004 vol. 3 no. 1 47-58
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Antineoplastons work as…switches, which regulate expression of genes.
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Phase II trials indicate efficacy of antineoplastons in low-grade glioma, brain stem glioma, high-grade glioma, adenocarcinoma of the colon, & hepatocellular carcinoma
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Best results observed in children with low-grade glioma, where 74% of patients obtained objective response, & in patients with adenocarcinoma of the colon…whose survival rate of more than 5 years is 91% versus 39% in controls.
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12. 9/2004 – Stanislaw R. Burzynski, MD, PhD, Robert I. Lewy, MD, FACP, Robert Weaver, MD, Tomasz Janicki, MD, Gabor Jurida, MD, Mohammad Khan, MD, Chymbeelyn B. Larisma, MD, Jaroslaw Paszkowiak, MD, Barbara Szymkowski, MD, Burzynski Clinic, Houston, Texas
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doi: 10.1177/1534735404267748 Integr Cancer Ther September 2004 vol. 3 no. 3 257-261
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Recurrent diffuse intrinsic brain stem glioblastoma multiforme carries extremely poor prognosis & median survival less than 7 months.
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Authors report good results in 40-year-old man diagnosed with glioblastoma multiforme who received antineoplastons.
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Brain tumor diagnosed in 5/1999, & subsequently underwent subtotal tumor resection & standard radiation therapy.
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MRI &…tomography scans documented tumor recurrence.
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Approximately 2 months after completion of radiation therapy, he was admitted for administration of…A10 & AS2-1.
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Administration of A10 & AS2-1 was over 655 consecutive days with exception of few short interruptions.
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Administration was very well tolerated with only mild reversible side effects.
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Follow-up MRI &…tomography scans revealed decrease & eventually disappearance of tumor
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Complete response documented after approximately 1 year of A10 & AS2-1.
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More than 4 years later, off A10 & AS2-1, patient is tumor free, able to carry on normal activities, & works full-time, & KPS increased from 50 to 100.
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Extensive phase II trials with A10 & AS2-1 in patients with glioblastoma multiforme are nearing completion.
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Trials may provide more data regarding efficacy of A10 & AS2-1 in treatment of glioblastoma multiforme in untreated patients compared to results in patients with tumor recurrence after radiation therapy.
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13. 3/2005 – Authors: Keiko Matono, Yutaka Ogata, Hideaki Tsuda, Yasumi Araki, Kazuo Shirouzu
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Oncology Reports, March 2005, Volume 13 Number 3
Pages: 389-395
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Affiliations: Department of Surgery, Kurume University School of Medicine, 67 Asahi-machi, Kurume City, Fukuoka .830-0011, Japan
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Investigated efficacy & mechanisms of AS2-1 against post-operative lung metastasis following removal of implanted human colon cancer in…rat.
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Influence of AS2-1 on in vitro…human colon carcinoma cell activities evaluated.
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AS2-1 administered…after removal of implanted …cancer in…rat.
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AS2-1 inhibited…cell proliferation through…cell arrest &, at higher concentration, induction of apoptosis.
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AS2-1 showed significant reduction in lung metastasis at 5 weeks & cecal removal.
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Survival rate in AS2-1 group significantly higher than control.
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TUNEL staining on lung…tumors revealed apoptosis index in AS2-1 group significantly higher.
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AS2-1 showed… effect against post-operative lung metastases from…cancer through…cell arrest & subsequent induction of apoptosis.
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14. 6/2005 – Stanislaw R. Burzynski, MD, PhD, Robert A. Weaver, MD, Tomasz Janicki, MD, Barbara Szymkowski, MD, Gabor Jurida, MD, Mohammad Khan, MD, Vsevolod Dolgopolov, MD, Burzynski Clinic, Houston, Texas
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doi: 10.1177/1534735405276835 Integr Cancer Ther June 2005 vol. 4 no. 2 168-177
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13 children, either with recurrent disease or high risk, treated in phase II studies with antineoplastons.
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Median age of patients 5 years, 7 months (range, 1-11).
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Medulloblastoma diagnosed in 8 patients
pineoblastoma in 3 patients.
Other PNET in 2 patients.
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Previous treatments included surgery in 12 patients.
(1 had biopsy only)
chemotherapy in 6 patients.
radiation therapy in 6 patients.
6 patients hadn’t received prior chemotherapy or radiation.
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Treatment consisted of…infusions of 2 formulations of ANP, A10 & AS2-1, & administered an average of 20 months.
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Complete response accomplished in 23%,
partial response in 8%,
stable disease in 31%,
progressive disease in 38% of cases.
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6 patients (46%) survived more than 5 years from initiation of ANP.
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5 not treated earlier with radiation therapy or chemotherapy.
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Serious side effects included single occurrences of fever, granulocytopenia, & anemia.
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Study ongoing & accruing additional patients.
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% of patients’ response lower than standard treatment of favorable PNET, but long-term survival in poor-risk cases & reduced toxicity makes ANP promising for very young children, patients at high risk of complication of standard therapy, & patients with recurrent tumors.
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15. 8/2005 – Authors: Teruhiko Fujii, Anna M. Nakamura, Goro Yokoyama, Miki Yamaguchi, Kosuke Tayama, Keisuke Miwa, Uhi Toh, Daisuke Kawamura, Kazuo Shirouzu, Hideaki Yamana, Michihiko Kuwano, Hideaki Tsuda
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Affiliations: Department of Surgery, Kurume University School of Medicine, 67 Asahimachi, Kurume, Fukuoka, .830-0011, Japan.
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Oncology Reports, August 2005, Volume 14 Number 2
Pages: 489-494
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Cells treated with A10 monitored for changes.
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A10 markedly inhibited SKBR-3 proliferation due to arrest in G1 phase.
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A10 down-regulated expression…resulting in inhibition.
increased expression…, with resultant inhibition.
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Study defined pathway in which A10 arrested…cells.
findings indicate that A10 antitumor effect could be utilized as effective therapy for breast cancer patients.
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16. 3/2006 –
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doi: 10.1177/1534735405285380 Integr Cancer Ther March 2006 vol. 5 no. 1 40-47
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Brainstem glioma carries worst prognosis of all malignancies of the brain.
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Most patients with brainstem glioma fail standard radiation therapy & chemotherapy & do not survive longer than 2 years.
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Treatment even more challenging when inoperable tumor is of high-grade pathology (HBSG).
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Objective of report to summarize outcome of patients with HBSG treated with antineoplastons in 4 phase 2 trials.
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Patients: group of 18 patients was evaluable:
4 patients with glioblastomas.
14 patients with anaplastic HBSG.
14 patients had diffuse intrinsic tumors.
12 patients suffered from recurrence.
6 patients did not have radiation therapy or chemotherapy.
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Methods: Antineoplastons, which consist of antineoplaston A10 (A10I) & AS2-1 injections, were given in escalating doses.
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Median duration of antineoplaston administration was 5 months.
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Responses were assessed by…enhanced MRI &…tomography.
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Results: overall survival at 2 & 5 years was 39% & 22%, respectively.
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Maximum survival was more than 17 years for patient with anaplastic astrocytoma.
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More than 5 years for a patient with glioblastoma.
Progression-free survival at 6 months was 39%.
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Complete response was achieved in 11%.
Partial response in 11%.
Stable disease in 39%.
Progressive disease in 39% of patients.
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Antineoplastons were tolerated very well with 1 case of grade 4 toxicity (reversible anemia).
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Conclusion: Antineoplastons contributed to more than 5-year survival in recurrent diffuse intrinsic glioblastomas & anaplastic astrocytomas of brainstem in small group of patients.
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17. 11/18.- 21/2010 – Stanislaw R. Burzynski, Robert A. Weaver, Tomasz J. Janicki, Gregory S. Burzynski, Barbara Szymkowski & Sheryll S. Acelar, Burzynski Clinic
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Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of the Society for Neuro-Oncology 2010
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Neuro Oncol (2010) 12 (suppl 4): iv69-iv78. doi: 10.1093/neuonc/noq116.s9 This article appears in: Abstracts from the 15th Annual Meeting of the Society for Neuro-Oncology (SNO), November 18–21, 2010, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Purpose of study was to evaluate efficacy & toxicity of antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 (ANP) in adult patients with recurrent mixed gliomas.
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13 of 20 patients enrolled were evaluable.
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7 patients could not be evaluated due to inadequate duration of treatment & lack of follow-up MRI scans
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4 women & 9 men.
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Median age was 38 (range, 29–54).
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Median KPS score at baseline was 70 (range, 60–100).
1 patient had low-grade & 12 patients had high-grade mixed gliomas.
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All patients received chemotherapy, radiation therapy, & surgery prior to ANP, with exception of 1 patient who received no chemotherapy or radiation therapy postsurgery.
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Patients received escalating doses of…ANP 6 times daily.
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Median duration of treatment was 4.4 months.
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ANP was well tolerated, with most common side effects being urinary frequency, hypernatremia, dysgeusia, myalgias, nausea, & hypersensitivity.
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Serious (grade 3) toxicity (urinary frequency) was observed in only 1 patient & there were no grade 4 toxicities.
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Response to ANP monitored by MRIs of the brain.
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Responses were as follows:
Complete response, 23%.
Partial response, 8%.
Stable disease, 23%.
Progressive disease, 46%.
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Progression-free survivals (PFS) at 1, 2, & 5 years were 31%, 23%, & 8%, respectively.
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Overall survivals (OS) from diagnosis & start of treatment at 1, 2, & 5 years were 92% & 54%, 85% & 23%, & 46% & 8%, respectively.
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Preliminary results of our small study of adults with recurrent mixed gliomas revealed ANP to be very effective in resolving or stabilizing disease in more than 50% of treated patients as well as encouraging PFS & OS with minimal toxicity.
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18. 9/18.- 21/2010 – Sonali Patil, Stanislaw R. Burzynski, Emilia Mrowczynski & Krzysztof Grela, Burzynski Research Institute
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Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of the Society for Neuro-Oncology 2010
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Neuro Oncol (2010) 12 (suppl 4): iv7-iv25. doi: 10.1093/neuonc/noq116.s2 This article appears in: Abstracts from the 15th Annual Meeting of the Society for Neuro-Oncology (SNO), November 18–21, 2010, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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In this study, we report the changes in expression of several…glioblastoma cells in response to exposure to AS2-1.
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Using total human microarray screen we noted reduced expression…& enhanced expression of genes involved in apoptosis in…cells exposed to AS2-1.
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Antineoplastons will be used in phase III U.S. FDA-regulated clinical trials this year.
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Once approved, these…derivatives may offer promising treatment in many types of brain tumors.
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19. 9/6.- 9/2012 – S. Patil⇓,S. Burzynski, E.Mrowczynski & K. Grela, Burzynski Research Institute, Houston, TX, United States
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Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of the Society for Neuro-Oncology 2012
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Neuro Oncol (2012) 14 (suppl 3): iii1-iii94. doi: 10.1093/neuonc/nos183 This article appears in: Abstracts from the 10th Congress of European Association Of NeuroOncology, Marseille, France September 6-9, 2012
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In this study we investigated effectiveness of combination of PG…
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PG is used in formulation of AS2-1 .
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FDA granted Orphan Drug designation for A10 & AS2-1 for treatment of gliomas, in 2009.
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12 FDA supervised Phase II clinical trials have confirmed anti-tumor efficacy in several types of brain tumor.
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PB is indicated for treatment of glioma & acute… leukemia.
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PB has been shown to inhibit…, induce differentiation & apoptosis in cancer cells.
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Previous studies in our laboratory have shown the combination of PG &…acts synergistically to inhibit growth of…glioblastoma cells.
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Another published report has shown that PB induces apoptosis in…cancer cells.
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In this study we examined effect of combination of PG with…on.. cell line.
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We found PG causes down-regulation of…in
…cells.
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PG is not toxic to normal cells.
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We describe the novel combination of.. & PB as effective anti-proliferative agents in glioblastoma & medulloblastoma cells.
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Links not included on this post in order that it not be Orac Spam Bot Tu-Quack Blocked.

Drunk again diddums?

Another gish gallop that starts with an incoherent ramble, and then gives us the usual copy/pasta of items found online that ARE NOT RESULTS OF CLINICAL TRIALS, provide no verified or indeed verifiable data and are therefore NOT evidence of efficacy.

Burzynski is STILL a fraud.

I would go and have a lie down if I were you. All this making a fool of yourself must be very tiring.

@hello…

Goodbye, brainless and logic-free troll, you will not be missed, although your stupidity would be amusing.

@djt

Strike one, djt, you still haven’t posting a shred of proof, like you have done in all of your posts.

The last DJT entry, in which any pretense that it is talking to anyone other than itself has been cast away like a hopelessly tattered slip, has led me to take refuge in the song stylings of Interröbang Cartel. (Not that it actually “needs more wanger.”)

Somehow, with all the important national security concerns over the flu and how we must all get vaccinated, I missed this news. Way to go Stanislaw Burzynski.

@Narad – what the hell kind of formatting is that supposed to be in Didums last post? That isn’t even stream of consciousness, unless it’s coming from a deranged person’s mind……

Didymus Judas Thomas, are you a programmer? That hierarchical formatting looks like the way I used to subdivide assembly language programs. Just a hint for future reference: in programming it makes sense; in text it is bizarre and renders your output unintelligible.

Bo, you might actually try reading the articles you are commenting on. While your sentence now makes grammatical sense, it has absolutely nothing to do with the subject. Burzynski gives dying cancer patients drugs that are much more dangerous than any flu vaccine.

As often occurred with with Th1Th2, this has reached a point where I feel a bit uncomfortable arguing with someone who appears to be unable to conduct even the semblance of a rational discussion.

@hello

Funny how you condemn Dr. Burzinski but then you have no other solution.

Solution to what, exactly?Iit’s true that at the present time there is no cure or effective treatment for some cancers, including the advanced glioma’s which seem to make up the bulk of Burzynski’s ‘practice’ (and I do use the term loosely).

Bu surely you’re not arguing that until such time as an effective treatment is identified, people offering false hopes of a cure at exorbitant prices should be allowed to prey on desparate individuals when they’re most vulnerable at will.

Or are you?

Funny how you condemn Dr. Burzinski but then you have no other solution. Its absolutely hysterical.

The other day I went to the Grand Canyon and realized I was on the wrong side. There was no bridge anywhere around, but I did find a man with a catapult who said he’d get me across for $150,000. I asked if his catapult was safe; he said it was. I asked to see his test protocols and results to see if it was more likely I’d arrive safely, die on impact, or be flung into the abyss; he said it was effective but would not produce the data I looked for.

Should I, or should I not, tell others that there’s no proof that this man’s protocol is safe and effective?

@hello

Should have been ‘goodbye’, but I digress:

Funny how you condemn Dr. Burzinski but then you have no other solution. Its absolutely hysterical.

Ah yes, the old “you have no better ideas, so his must be right” trope. No, even if everything we know is wrong, that doesn’t make him right.

Its so funny to me that there can be so many brainwashed people who believe everything the government and the media say. Honestly. Wake Up.

Funny, we’re the ones asking for the evidence *because* we refuse to believe everything we’re told. And yet, it’s usually the Burzyinski fans who do all the believing and none of the questioning.

Sadly I am wasting my time right now chatting to a bunch of brainless and utterly hopeless bunch of sheep who will know no better. So without further will do, im off. Have a nice day.

Read: I have no evidence, so I’ll go now before you start asking me for it.

@DJT

Our good Friend flip flippantly flouts his “Conspiracy Theory” that it is my intent to DEFEND SRB!

Whilst I posit that flip is flip-flopping & maybe doesn’t understand the grand idea of DEFENDING the TRUTH.

Your reading comprehension still fails you. I said that I didn’t know *what* you were trying to achieve. And posted a question in the hopes you’d clarify yourself. Which you have also failed at.

Can you, I don’t know, learn how to use blockquotes? It’s very easy, here I’ll teach you. Before the text you want to quote, put a left triangular bracket, usually found to the right of the letter ‘M’ on your keyboard. Then type the word blockquote. Then type in a right triangular bracket. Then enter the text you are quoting. To close the whole thing up, add a left triangular bracket, a backslash (the one on the same key as the question mark), type the word blockquote, and then a right triangular bracket.

So it will be like this, but minus the spaces:

Text

Do that from now on and your comments will be easier to read. Maybe people will understand you a bit better…Smaller comments will help too, and less copying and pasting of random stuff. Of course, that won’t help with the general word salad, but it will help reduce the confusion.

@LW

Didymus Judas Thomas, are you a programmer? That hierarchical formatting looks like the way I used to subdivide assembly language programs. Just a hint for future reference: in programming it makes sense; in text it is bizarre and renders your output unintelligible.

I know they’re not the same things, but surely a programmer can figure out basic HTML?

F*ing… even the spaces converted it to html.

Try again, the blockquotes will be like this:

Text

Darn you wordpress! Ok, use triangular brackets instead of the square ones shown below:

[blockquote] Text [/blockquote]

I think you meant <blockquote> and </blockquote>, but we’ll see if that gets through.

Bo, try full sentences and prove you have read the above article. Where does Burzynski tell patients to not get vaccines?

I’m reminded of some things I’ve read about Uwe Boll. He sometimes challenges the people who criticize his movies to boxing matches. Other times, he argues along the lines that they should just shut up and make better movies, as if the ability to create good movies is a prerequisite for recognizing and criticizing bad ones.

I don’t need to be able to cure cancer to recognize and point out warning signs of a cancer quack.

@Bo – do you actual have a point or do you just enjoy spamming multiple threads with your inane comments?

Oh wait…I think I just answered my own question….lol

Bo, I am not offended. I am baffled at your bizarre comments. Though they are kind of amusing in an avant-garde dada sense. Kind of like a goth high school kid performing at an amateur poetry reading.

I think bo’s point is “Look at me! Look at me! Aren’t I so clever?”

That can’t be right—he’s really concerned about surveillance.

So, JGC, I see you have also suffered through a high school poetry reading. I was so glad that my daughter had the start time wrong and I only had to sit through half of it.

@Lawrence given the FDA, DOJ, and the Texas Board of Medical Examiners can’t seem to refute him, discredit him, or prosecute him, my advice to you would be to stop playing with the chemicals making worthless vaccines for profit.

Be a good boy go outside and play, I promise I won’t let the other students bully you anymore,

ummm…..let see:

1-: insulting
2-: patronizing
3-: spammer

What else? Anyone want to add to that list?

Alain

So, JGC, I see you have also suffered through a high school poetry reading.

Just be glad you’re not stuck with the public radio station in the third-largest DMA. Their relentless coverage of teen poetry slams has been going on for years.

@Lawrence given the FDA, DOJ, and the Texas Board of Medical Examiners can’t seem to refute him, discredit him, or prosecute him, my advice to you would be to stop playing with the chemicals making worthless vaccines for profit.

What a perfect example of non sequitur!

How the hell does clause 2 follow at all logically from clause 1?

@Adam – I guess it would be great to actually have “published clinical results” to refute, wouldn’t it? I mean, you’d think after 30 years that Dr. B would have oodles of results that could be published to shut us up, right?

Wouldn’t it be very easy for Dr. B to just go ahead & publish his “cure” for Cancer, spread it far and wide (via the Internet to avoid Guv’ment repression) and silence his critics once and for all?

Of course, being able to play the victim / martyr seems to be an extremely lucrative business – and if results were ever published that showed his treatment didn’t work, it would be the end of the gravy train, wouldn’t it?

Who’s suppressing Burzynski’s test results? Burzynski is. Gee. I wonder why.

Meanwhile, in this Burzynski-induced lack of evidence, we default to the null hypothesis: That his treatments don’t work. He’s not exactly in a rush to falsify said null hypothesis.

FDA, DOJ, and the Texas Board of Medical Examiners can’t seem to refute him, discredit him, or prosecute him

Bo, until such time as Burzynski offers evidence in support of his claims that antineoplastons are effective at treating advanced stage cancers by publishing the results of the multiple ‘clinical trials’ he’s supposedly been conducting for the past couple of decades there simply isn’t anything which needs refutation.

Bo, Diddums, Mel, Marge and Judith. Guys we should be utterly embarrassed that we are attracting this quality of troll. We can and should do better.

Guys we should be utterly embarrassed that we are attracting this quality of troll. We can and should do better.

How I long for the days of Thingy, blackheart, and the cannabis troll. Truly those were the golden years 🙂

ummm…..let see:

1-: insulting
2-: patronizing
3-: spammer

What else? Anyone want to add to that list?

Incomprehensible, irrelevant, and inane?

Bo, Diddums, Mel, Marge and Judith. Guys we should be utterly embarrassed that we are attracting this quality of troll. We can and should do better.

Agreed, it was more fun with Jake, the superstar pediatrics (can’t recall his name) and the gardasil in the brain guy whose postdoc is lucija tomlosomething….

Alain

Guys we should be utterly embarrassed that we are attracting this quality of troll.

I have not ruled out the possibility that Bo is actually Suzanne Humphries on a multiday bender.

I have not ruled out the possibility that Bo is actually Suzanne Humphries on a multiday bender.

😀

Agreed, it was more fun with Jake, the superstar pediatrics (can’t recall his name) and the gardasil in the brain guy whose postdoc is lucija tomlosomething….

Well we briefly got the Dumpster Diver Goldman but he got scared off too easily.

Funny how you condemn Dr. Burzinski but then you have no other solution. Its absolutely hysterical.

If someone claims they can turn lead into gold, I don’t have to demonstrate the ability to turn lead into gold myself before I can say “this guy’s a cheap con artist.”

Its so funny to me that there can be so many brainwashed people who believe everything the government and the media say. Honestly. Wake Up.

“Everything”? Isn’t it jumping to an awfully big conclusion to think we believe “everything” the government and media says, just because when we compare Burzynski’s claims to those of his critics, the critics are far more credible?

Here are some facts for you to consider. You can verify for yourself that all of them are true.

Burzynski has been doing “clinical trials” for thirty years now and still hasn’t managed to publish any data from them to prove that his treatments do anything.

Patients who agree to participate in clinical trials – real clinical trials – are almost always paid. They are taking big risks and they are providing an invaluable service to the researchers.

Burzynski, by contrast, expects patients to both provide him with that invaluable service of helping him prove his treatment AND to pay HIM five and six figures. He’s come no closer to publishing a single paper in thirty years, but he HAS made millions of dollars this way.

Tell me again why the government and media are LESS credible than Burzynski?

One of many reasons to doubt Burzynski’s claims:

He did publish a little thirty years ago. He did get some patents. There were some (unsuccessful) tests of his claims; they too were reported. These things are public records accessible to anyone in the world who is interested. And the source for his antineoplastons was urine, a raw material readily available anywhere humans can be found.

So anyone in the world could have picked up the challenge and started testing and refining his protocol. It wouldn’t be too expensive for even a small third-world nation — how do I know? Because Burzynski claims to have done the research on his own dime while siphoning off enough for his lavish lifestyle.

Sure, such research might, initially anyway, infringe on his patents, but so what? America is not the world and American patents do not control in every country.

So why didn’t anybody in the world in three decades do the research and come up with a workable protocol? Why aren’t there already antineoplaston clinics around the world?

Unless, of course, it just doesn’t work.

@MOB

How did you get the blockquotes to work? I tried various ways, but they kept converting.

@Bo

@Lawrence given the FDA, DOJ, and the Texas Board of Medical Examiners can’t seem to refute him, discredit him, or prosecute him, my advice to you would be to stop playing with the chemicals making worthless vaccines for profit.

Hmm, I guess Bo’s tactic is to insert the word ‘vaccine’ into every comment regardless of context…

How did you get the blockquotes to work? I tried various ways, but they kept converting.

You have to type &lt; and &gt;.

Flip,

What Narad said. And, of course, in order to show &gt; you have to type &amp;gt…

Also, the blog software hear seems to default to italics for blockquotes. At least it lets you blockquote more than one paragraph, unlike the previous version of software here.

… Um, yes, it should be “software here“!

And to think I was talking about freaking homonyms this morning with daughter. Ah, the joys of the not very phonetic English language.

And for n > 1, all sequences of n instances of the word “police” are grammatically correct English.

the blog software here seems to default to italics for blockquotes.

The blockquote tag enclosed in greater/lesser than signs works fine for me. The closing blockquote tag requires the ‘/’ sign to precede the word ‘blockquote’, just as MOB wrote earlier.

Most importantly, if I don’t force the text into paragraphs with the ‘p’ in greater/lesser than signs, then it throws off the blockquote tags. I have to use them together at the beginning and end of each paragraph.

I use ’em’ in the same manner for italics.

My guess is I can’t force a display of the blockquote command, as did MOB. Don’t know how he did that.

Test: This is the blockquote command.

and I bet you don’t see it.

Narad, you are very special. I have no idea what you are saying. But then again, there is a glass of wine involved.

S, from my cheat sheet:
How to use a blockquote: <blockquote>Put paragraph of person you are quoting in here.</blockquote>

I have never used <blockquote>p</blockquote> here. So I don’t know if it works.

And I don’t have preview, so I don’t know if I screwed up. So I’ll just blame lack of sleep and the glass of wine sitting on the nearby table.

Narad, you are very special. I have no idea what you are saying.

Indeed he is. I’m thinking he is Mensa material. I’ve learned to let some of the stuff he says go right over my head, sorry to admit that.

I meant: <p>Put paragraph of person you are quoting in here.</p>

Must cut and paste the proper words!

And again, I don’t know if I did it write, with the usual excuse.

The person being quoted goes in-between the blockquote tag so their quote is indented. I always use the ‘p’ tags regardless of whether I use blockquote, if I am just writing one line of my own text. It’s too late at night for me to think. I’ll practice tomorrow.

S, I think Narad is better than Mensa. Much of what he/she says is above my head, but I am good with that. Also I am not too fond of folks who brag about being in Mensa.

And while the HTML I was attempting was correct, I screwed up the homonym again. It is supposed to be “I don’t know if I did it right,”

Oh, crud… decided to do a look up, I am being done in by homophones. American late night is fun here on RI, especially with the folks in Australia, New Zealand and parts of Asia being wide awake and sober.

Regarding mensa, I should be mensa material considering the number of time I practiced the WAIS-III and the Raven….

Alain

Alain, don’t bother. It is pointless, and there seems to be something about the test that turns anyone who takes it and qualifies that makes them very annoying. Don’t be annoying, enjoy just being your own intelligent self.

And I will confess it is the fatigue and wine talking.

Don’t worry, I don’t plan to enter Mensa and I’m more interested to go back in neuroscience research (I’ve been researching opportunity in Montreal and there look to be a lot of demand).

Alain

The reference was merely to this, which conveniently gets one homonyms and recursion in one tidy package (if one is trying to machine-parse it, at least).

“Recursion and the Ambiguity Explosion” would be a dandy geek-band name, though.

Gads, all these directions for block quotes go over my head.

I think I’m superb by just learning how to link an article, thanks to the great tutelage and support of “Chris”.

BTW guys, Thingy has been posting under several different ‘nyms at the Shot of Prevention blog…but she still is the same germ phobic insane troll.

The first few posts by “Bo” were cut and paste phrases inserted in other cut and paste sentences, “held together” by some original words. IMO, Bo is a sockie of another troll…but I can’t quite place where the troll has posted before.

Its so funny to me that there can be so many brainwashed people who believe everything the government and the media a good salesman says.

Fixed that for you.
And yes, even the best of us fall occasionally for a good story 🙁
Honestly. Wake Up.

Ooops

My strikeout didn’t work. Is my face red.
I did check it with the Tryit editor posted above, but the results differ.
Oh well, I will keep testing. For Science.

“Recursion and the Ambiguity Explosion” would be a dandy geek-band name, though.

Now Narad is triggering memories of the compiler design module within my comp-sci classes at uni all those years ago. Bad Narad!
I do not rate for “The Chomsky Language Hierarchy” as a band name.

This blog strips out and ignores paragraph tags <p> replacing them with its own. The command it accepts for strikethrough is <strike>.
The latest version of my preview program is available here. It’s still not perfect, but it handles most common HTML (including strikethrough) OK. I wrote it for myself specifically for previewing comments I post here, so some of you may find it useful too.

And yes, even the best of us fall occasionally for a good story 🙁

yep, and it wasn’t healthcare related

@Alain & Denise Walter

Having seen three mindwalkers, only one prescribed anything and it was off label to help me get some sleep. A mild mood alterer – Tsomething? – that also mildly sedated.

Unfortunately, it also might induce restless leg syndrome which is contraindicated for sleep…

the html required to spruce up yer comments is basic. Just remember the triangular bracket (above the ‘comma’ and ‘period’ on Eng Keyb) is your friend and is the prefix and suffix for html “commands” like em, strong or blockquote.

Also remember, if you’re going to start something, you have to finish it – voila le / – which will do that in combo with the aforementioned commands and friendly brackets.

em – italicise your string of text

strong – boldface your string of text

blockquote –

Each of these “commands” starts and ends with a triangular bracket and these “commands” start and end the text you want to manipulate – the “end command” must include a / after the leading left triangular bracket – NB or you could italicise the intertubes.

That and proof several times.

al kimeea,
For bold and italic b and i work as well, which saves a little typing.
<b>So this is bold.</b>
<i>And this is italic</i>
For this sort of thing I find my preview program invaluable.

ah that is so, but those are old timey html 😉

I end up using both and I have downloaded your program to check it out – source available?

I end up using both and I have downloaded your program to check it out – source available?

I can make it available if you like – it’s a very simple Visual Basic program that uses a webbrowser control to display what’s in a textbox.

I do not rate for “The Chomsky Language Hierarchy” as a band name.

He was not exactly held in high regard in the natural-language processing circles I traveled in. Did he ever sort out why sentences such as “This is the dog that the cat the rat the fly tickled fled scratched” aren’t parsed well by people despite their G-d-given context-free grammars?

He was not exactly held in high regard in the natural-language processing circles I traveled in.

Seems to me that there’s a split in linguistics, between Pinker and his popular publications on language-through-the-eyes-of-Chomsky, and everyone else.

@MOB

What Narad said. And, of course, in order to show > you have to type &gt…

Thank you. And apologies to all for derailing the thread into html-speak.

@ Krebiozen

It has been a while since I toyed with VB, but I’m teaching myself Java, and translating it would be a good exercise. It would be very much appreciated.

Seems to me that there’s a split in linguistics, between Pinker and his popular publications on language-through-the-eyes-of-Chomsky, and everyone else.

Part of the issue was that we certainly weren’t doing linguistics in the first place (arguably, nobody in AI NLP really was), but at the time there were plenty of people who insisted that it was the only tool for the job. Don’t get me wrong; I have a very dear friend who’s cited more than once in The Cambridge Companion to Chomsky and is very active in language acquisition research, but purely syntax-based front ends (or worse) were complete duds.

al kimeea,

It has been a while since I toyed with VB, but I’m teaching myself Java, and translating it would be a good exercise. It would be very much appreciated.

Here’s the source code. There should be everything you need there, probably more than you really need. If you figure out how to get the paragraph, super and subscripts working properly I’ll be impressed. It should be a simple task, but isn’t. Really I should write my own browser to mimic how WordPress interprets simple HTML, but why bother when MS provides one? Trouble is it doesn’t do exactly what WordPress does, and then you find yourself trying to manage the exceptions which quickly gets messy.

Any mention of Chomsky and linguistics takes me back to the year I spent studying semiotics (a related but even more baffling field). Trying to study a symbol system using the exact same symbol system is a recipe for deep confusion and a nasty headache in my experience. Maybe my brain just doesn’t work that way. I learned enough semiotics to bluff my way through exams on the subject, but I never really understood it.

Oh Lord.
I had to translate a psycholinguistics paper from French into English.
And I should add, then into *comprehensible* English.

Quel horreur! I hope you didn’t get your signifier, sign and signified mixed up. We studied a lot of French philosophy, semiotics and such-like, or perhaps it just seemed like a lot. My favorite personal favorite was Baudrillard who, if I understood him at all, essentially claimed that philosophy (and everything else, I think) has disappeared up its own rear-end, “the end of history and meaning”, and that nothing is real any more.

I am also reminded of Roland Barthes and his famous essay on wine and milk, “le vin et le lait”, in ‘Mythologies’ – legend had it that he was run over and killed by a milk float in some surreal and ironic act of fate, but in truth it was a laundry van which did him in. I loved Barthes’ concept of “death of author”, which was useful to invoke when you could remember an idea but not, for the life of you, who it belonged to. Such rich, textured and evocative bollocks.

Alain wrote:

Regarding mensa, I should be mensa material considering the number of time I practiced the WAIS-III and the Raven….

Obscure autism humor, but nevertheless appreciated.

And BOY am I glad I left academia before the pomo craze hit.

With the Raven Progressive Matrices, I sometimes wonder whether anyone has designed an alternative set of Conservative Matrices to eliminate the obvious political agenda.

@ HDB

You wouldn’t be more interested into knowing the result of politician in the world and how do they score on progressive measure? (side joke but then, I wouldn’t be surprised to know that conservatives…..like sarah palin….score lower on the test).

Alain

regarding the directions above – which I appreciate and should know how to do, darn it:
Gads, all these directions for block quotes go over my head. and

all these directions for block quotes go over my head

Me too!
I italicized and entire thread by not closing a command and have feared these simple but unfamiliar commands since. I wonder how it will look after I submit it.

OK, one of the two things I tried worked. regarding the directions above – which I appreciate and should know how to do, darn it:
Gads, all these directions for block quotes go over my head. and and also I meant to write “an” not and. I used the most clumsy obvious comment above and I should study the above directions in more detail. Try a few things. Might have odd results but I’ll close my commands, I hope. At least I’m not trolling you energy healing.

Oh Lord.
I had to translate a psycholinguistics paper from French into English.

Please don’t make me summon the Jackendoff.

That din’t work. Better off with my pileateds & their apples. I’ll try this again.

Just remember the triangular bracket (above the ‘comma’ and ‘period’ on Eng Keyb) is your friend and is the prefix and suffix for html “commands” like em, strong or blockquote.

and

remember, if you’re going to start something, you have to finish it – voila le / – which will do that in combo with the aforementioned commands and friendly brackets.

and so on. Now then, how to include links. I gather there’s been a recent tutorial on that.

Now then, how to include links. I gather there’s been a recent tutorial on that.

If you want to include a link other than just pasting the whole thing raw, the syntax is like this:

<a href=”PUT ACTUAL LINK HERE, with the quotion marks”>DESIRED TEXT HERE</a>

The actual tag is <a>.

9/8/2012 Comments:
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Antaeus Feldspar:
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The question is this:

Burzynski claims to be conducting clinical trials…
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ANSWER:

SRB doesn’t have to claim he’s conducting CLINICAL TRIALS:
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Search on: S Burzynski (60 results):
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/search?page=1&q=S+Burzynski
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1986 – Antineoplastons: history of the research (I).
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SR Burzynski
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Drugs Exp Clin Res (1986), PMID .352763
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All…were submitted for PHASE I CLINICAL STUDIES…
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/3527634/Antineoplastons__history_of_the_research__I_
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1987 – Initial CLINICAL STUDY…with 5 years’ follow-up.
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SR Burzynski &E E Kubove
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Drugs Exp Clin Res (1987), PMID .3569010
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This paper describes PHASE I CLINICAL STUDIES…
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/3569010/Initial_clinical_study_with_antineoplaston_A2_injections_in_cancer_patients_with_five_years__follow_up
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1987 – PHASE I CLINICAL STUDIES…
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SR Burzynski & E E Kubove
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Drugs Exp Clin Res (1987), PMID .3569012
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…was submitted for PHASE II CLINICAL STUDIES…
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/3569012/Phase_I_clinical_studies_of_antineoplaston_A3_injections
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1987 – PHASE I CLINICAL STUDIES…
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S R Burzynski, E Kubove, &B Burzynski
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Drugs Exp Clin Res (1987), PMID .3569014
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CLINICAL TRIALS described in this paper…
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/3569014/Phase_I_clinical_studies_of_antineoplaston_A5_injections
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1990 – Treatment of hormonally refractory cancer of the prostate with antineoplaston AS2-1.
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S R Burzynski, E Kubove, & B Burzynski
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Drugs Exp Clin Res 16(7):361-9 (1990), PMID .2152694
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The present study describes the results of treatment… in PHASE II CLINICAL TRIALS…
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/2152694/Treatment_of_hormonally_refractory_cancer_of_the_prostate_with_antineoplaston_AS2_1
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2003 – PHASE II study…
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Stanislaw R Burzynski, Robert I RI Lewy, … Mark M Bestak
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Drugs R D 4(2):91-101 (2003), PMID .12718563
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A PHASE II study…
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/12718563/Phase_II_study_of_antineoplaston_A10_and_AS2_1_in_patients_with_recurrent_diffuse_intrinsic_brain_stem_glioma__a_preliminary_report
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2004 – PHASE II study…
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Stanislaw R Burzynski, Robert A RA Weaver, … Marc M Bestak
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Drugs R D 5(6):315-26 (2004), PMID .15563234
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/15563234/Phase_II_study_of_antineoplaston_A10_and_AS2_1_in_children_with_recurrent_and_progressive_multicentric_glioma___a_preliminary_report
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2004 – Long-term survival and complete response of a patient with recurrent diffuse intrinsic brain stem glioblastoma multiforme.
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Stanislaw R Burzynski, Robert I RI Lewy, … Barbara B Szymkowski
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Integr Cancer Ther 3(3):257-61 (2004), PMID .15312271
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These TRIALS…
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/15312271/Long_term_survival_and_complete_response_of_a_patient_with_recurrent_diffuse_intrinsic_brain_stem_glioblastoma_multiforme
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2005 – Long-term survival of high-risk pediatric patients with primitive neuroectodermal tumors treated with antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1.
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Stanislaw R Burzynski, Robert A RA Weaver, … Vsevolod V Dolgopolov
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Integr Cancer Ther 4(2):168-77 (2005), PMID .15911929
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…were treated in PHASE II studies…
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/15911929/Long_term_survival_of_high_risk_pediatric_patients_with_primitive_neuroectodermal_tumors_treated_with_antineoplastons_A10_and_AS2_1
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2006 – Treatments for astrocytic tumors in children: current & emerging strategies.
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Stanislaw R Burzynski
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Paediatr Drugs 8(3):167-78 (2006), PMID .16774296
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CLINICAL TRIALS…
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/16774296/Treatments_for_astrocytic_tumors_in_children__current_and_emerging_strategies
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2006 – Targeted therapy with antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 of high-grade, recurrent, & progressive brainstem glioma.
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Stanislaw R Burzynski, Tomasz J Janicki, … Barbara Burzynski
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Integr Cancer Ther 5(1):40-7 (2006), PMID .16484713
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in 4 PHASE 2 trials
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/16484713/Targeted_therapy_with_antineoplastons_A10_and_AS2_1_of_high_grade__recurrent__and_progressive_brainstem_glioma
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2009 (1./13) – Burzynski Research Institute Gets SPA Clearance from the FDA to Initiate Pivotal Phase III Trial of Combination Antineoplaston Therapy & Radiation Therapy
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Study to Evaluate Children with Newly-Diagnosed Diffuse Intrinsic Brainstem Glioma
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http:// www. sec. gov/Archives/edgar/data/724445/000110465909002283/a09-2965_1ex99d1.htm

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Is DJT’s discovery of hash marks a new development? Perhaps it will evolve to discovering BUAGs in near-real time.

9/8/2012 Comments:
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Antaeus Feldspar:
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…testing out a treatment that has clinical equipoise (that is, it may or may not work or might even potentially make things worse; not knowing which it is is why we are doing trials.)
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Search re others than SRB re: Antineoplaston (98 results) – Many of these are from JAPAN:
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/search?q=Antineoplaston
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2009 – Novel aminopeptidase N inhibitors derived from antineoplaston AS2-5 (Part I)
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Xun Li, Junli Wang, … Wenfang XuBioorg Med Chem 17(8):8 (2009), PMID .19329328
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/19329328/Novel_aminopeptidase_N_inhibitors_derived_from_antineoplaston_AS2_5__Part_I
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2009 – Novel aminopeptidase N inhibitors derived from antineoplaston AS2-5 (Part II)
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Xun Li, Yazhou Wang, … Wenfang Xu
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Bioorg Med Chem 17(8):11 (2009), PMID .19339187
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/19339187/Novel_aminopeptidase_N_inhibitors_derived_from_antineoplaston_AS2_5__Part_II
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2008 – Preclinical studies of molecular-targeting diagnostic and therapeutic strategies against breast cancer.
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Teruhiko Fujii, Goro Yokoyama, … Michihiko Kuwano
Breast Cancer 15(1):73-8 (2008), PMID .18224398
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/18224398/Preclinical_studies_of_molecular_targeting_diagnostic_and_therapeutic_strategies_against_breast_cancer
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2007 – Induction of apoptosis in human hepatocellular carcinoma cells by synthetic antineoplaston A10.
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Xian-Jun XJ Qu, Shu-Xiang SX Cui, … Wei W Tang
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Anticancer Res 27(4B):2427-31 (2007), PMID 17695534
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/17695534/Induction_of_apoptosis_in_human_hepatocellular_carcinoma_cells_by_synthetic_antineoplaston_A10
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2005 – Antineoplaston induces G(1) arrest by PKCalpha and MAPK pathway in SKBR-3 breast cancer cells.
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Teruhiko T Fujii, Anna M AM Nakamura, … Hideaki H Tsuda
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Oncol Rep 14(2):489-94 (2005), PMID .16012735
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Our findings indicate that the antineoplaston A10 antitumor effect could be utilized as an effective therapy for breast cancer patients.
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/16012735/Antineoplaston_induces_G_1__arrest_by_PKCalpha_and_MAPK_pathway_in_SKBR_3_breast_cancer_cells
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Effects of antineoplaston AS2-1 against post-operative lung metastasis in orthotopically implanted colon cancer in nude rat.
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Keiko K Matono, Yutaka Y Ogata, … Kazuo K Shirouzu
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Oncol Rep 13(3):389-95 (2005), PMID .15706406
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2005 – [The regulatory action of dipeptide Deglutam on the glutamine metabolized enzymes in the carcinosarcoma SM-1 cells].
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Author(s) unavailable
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pubmed 51(1):48-52 1 Jan 2005, PMID .15850218
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The influence of modified antineoplaston AS2-1…
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Analysis of cell growth inhibitory effects of antineoplaston through MAPK in human breast cancer cell line SKBR-3
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Fujii, Nakamura, … Tsuda
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EJC Supplements 2(3):2 (2004),
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/pgtmp_1a9d2d938a362c256604fc852c8891b9/Analysis_of_cell_growth_inhibitory_effects_of_antineoplaston_through_MAPK_in_human_breast_cancer_cell_line_SKBR_3
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2004 – Antineoplastons and the challenges of research in integrative care.
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Keith I Block
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Integr Cancer Ther 3(1):3-4 (2004), PMID .15035867
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2004 – Managing social conflict in complementary and alternative medicine research: the case of antineoplastons.
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Mitchell R Hammer and Wayne B Jonas
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Integr Cancer Ther 3(1):59-65 (2004), PMID .15035877
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2003 – [Anti-proliferative effects of biochemical defense modifier antineoplaston in colorectal carcinoma].
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Yutaka Y Ogata, Keiko K Matono, and Kazuo K Shirouzu
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Nihon Rinsho (2003), PMID .14574945
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2003 – .985 Molecular mechanisms of G1 arrest of antineoplaston AS2-1 against colon cancer
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EJC Supplements 1(5):0 (2003),
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2003 – The preventive effect of antineoplaston AS2-1 on HCC recurrence.
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Hideaki H Tsuda, Michio M Sata, … Hiroshi H Hara
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Oncol Rep 10(2):391-7 (2003), PMID 12579278
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2003 – Long-term survival following treatment with antineoplastons for colon cancer with unresectable multiple liver metastases: report of a case.
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Yutaka Ogata, Hideaki Tsuda, … Kazuo Shirouzu
Surg Today 33(6):448-53 (2003), PMID .12768372
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This case report demonstrates the potential effectiveness of the nontoxic antitumor agent, the antineoplastons, for controlling liver metastases from colon cancer.
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2002 – Use of the best case series to evaluate complementary and alternative therapies for cancer: a systematic review
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Richard L RL Nahin
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Semin Oncol 29(6):552-62 (2002), PMID .12516038
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Despite these general deficiencies, 4 BCS (antineoplastons…) were sufficiently convincing to warrant follow-up clinical trials.
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2002 – A novel strategy for remission induction and maintenance in cancer therapy.
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H H Tsuda, M M Sata, … Y Y Nakashima
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Oncol Rep 9(1):65-8 (2002), PMID .11748457
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Antineoplaston A10 & AS2-1 are chemically identified & synthesized antineoplastons proven to inhibit cancer cell growth…& inhibiting tumor growth…
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Our cases of advanced cancer responded well to combination treatment using…antineoplaston A10 & AS2-1 in CLINICAL TRIALS…
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2000 – Immune modulatory potentials of antineoplaston A-10 in breast cancer patients.
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F F Badria, M M Mabed, … S S Hawas
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Cancer Lett 157(1):57-63 (2000), PMID .10893443
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Previously we have shown a strong inverse association of urinary antineoplaston A-10 with breast cancer
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These findings confirm the presence of immune defects among patients with breast cancer & such results should stimulate the development of new strategies to induce & augment immunity for the treatment of breast cancer.
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Antineoplaston A-10 may provide rational basis for designing trials to employ its immune modulatory potentials as adjuvant therapy in breast cancer patients.
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2000 – Potential utility of antineoplaston A-10 levels in breast cancer.
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F F Badria, M M Mabed, … L L Abou-Zeid
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Cancer Lett 155(1):67-70 (2000), PMID .10814881
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Here we describe the potential utility of antineoplaston A-10 as a predictive test for breast cancer
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These data suggest a strong inverse association of urinary antineoplaston A-10 level with breast cancer.
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Such finding was the stimulus for further investigations of antineoplaston A-10 levels…as a predictive test for women who are at risk of developing breast cancer.
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1998 – Antineoplaston treatment for advanced hepatocellular carcinoma.
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T T Kumabe, H H Tsuda, … H H Hara
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Oncol Rep 5(6):1363-7 (1998), PMID .9769368
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…PHASE I CLINICAL TRIAL…
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…showed resolution of…tumor thrombosis with systemic infusion of antineoplaston A10 I.
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The usefulness of anti-neoplaston A10 I in terminal staged HCC is discussed
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1998 – Quick response of advanced cancer to chemoradiation therapy with antineoplastons.
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H H Tsuda, M M Sata, … H H Nagamatsu
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Oncol Rep 5(3):597-600 (1998), PMID .9538158
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Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 exhibit growth inhibition of cancer cells
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We observed antitumor responses within 2-3 weeks of a combination treatment of…& antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 in PHASE I CLINICAL STUDY.
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…we believed antineoplaston A10 &AS2-1 may be contributing to the rapid antitumor response.
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/9538158/Quick_response_of_advanced_cancer_to_chemoradiation_therapy_with_antineoplastons
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1997 – Antineoplaston AS2-1 for maintenance therapy in liver cancer.
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H H Tsuda, M M Sata, … T T Kumabe
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Oncol Rep 4(6):1213-6 (1997), PMID .21590224
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Antineoplaston AS2-1 exhibits cytostatic growth inhibition of human…carcinoma cells…& showed minimum adverse effects in a PHASE I CLINICAL TRIALS.
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We reviewed 2 clinical cases of liver cancer…in whom we believe antineoplaston A2-1 was useful as a maintenance therapy
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The 2 patients have continued to be in good condition for more than 2 years without limitation of their normal activities.
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Antineoplaston AS2-1 may be effective & useful as a maintenance agent…
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1996 – Inhibitory effect of antineoplaston A10 and AS2-1 on human hepatocellular carcinoma.
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H H Tsuda, A A Iemura, … H H Hara
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Kurume Med J 43(2):137-47 (1996), PMID .8755117
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The mixture…was also shown to have antitumor effect in tissue culture study, then formulated as Antineoplaston AS2-1.
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The reported cytostatic inhibitory effect of A10 on human…carcinoma cells & differentiation inducing effect of AS2-1 on various tumor cells suggest potential benefit for the treatment of human…carcinoma since this tumor recurs frequently despite initial successful treatment.
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We report here the effects of Antineoplaston A10 and AS2-1…
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Both agents inhibited cell proliferation… …we also describe our clinical experience of a…carcinoma (HCC) patient whose tumor,…has been stable for more than 15 months during which time he has been taking Antineoplaston AS2-1 continuously without any serious adverse effects.
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/8755117/Inhibitory_effect_of_antineoplaston_A10_and_AS2_1_on_human_hepatocellular_carcinoma
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1996 – A POTENTIOMETRIC STUDY OF METAL ION COMPLEXES OF ANTINEOPLASTON A10, A NEW ANTITUMOUR AGENT
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Danuta Michalska, Barbara Morzyk, and Walter Wojciechowski
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J Coord Chem 38(1):101 – 106 (1996),
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1995 – Toxicological study on antineoplastons A-10 & AS2-1 in cancer patients.
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H H Tsuda, H H Hara, … Y Y Sugita
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Kurume Med J 42(4):241-9 (1995), PMID .8667595
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We conducted a…study of…Antineoplastons A-10 & AS2-1 in combination with other anticancer agents or radiation in 42 patients, 46 tumors with terminal stage cancer.
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Antineoplaston A-10…& A-10…was administered in 14 and 25 patients respectively.
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[L]ongest term of administration was 610 days & 67 days, respectively.
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Antineoplaston AS2-1…& AS2-1…was administered in 33 & 10 patients, respectively,…the longest term was 1070 days & 25 days, respectively.
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The major adverse effects that may have been related to these agents as used in combination with other conventional chemotherapeutic agents or radiation were…(3 listed) …but these effects were not seen when either Antineoplaston was administered alone.
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The minor adverse effects observed in…use of either Antineoplaston A-10 or AS2-1 were… (13 items) …but these adverse effects did not limit to continuation of either agent.
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The evaluation of the usefulness of the Antineoplastons in combination therapy based on the…findings during…treatment revealed disappearance or measurable shrinkage of the tumor lasting more than 1 months as visualized by MRI or…tomography was seen in 15 tumors (32.6%).
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No increase in size of tumor for more than 3 months was observed in 8 (17.4%).
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The mean survival time of these patients was significantly longer…
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Antineoplaston A-10 & AS2-1 are less toxic than conventional chemotherapeutics & they were useful in maintenance therapy for cancer patients.
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1995 – The effect of Antineoplaston, a new antitumor agent on malignant brain tumors.
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Y Y Sugita, H H Tsuda, … H H Hara
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Kurume Med J 42(3):133-40 (1995), PMID .7474850
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Antineoplaston (Ap), a new antitumor agent, was clinically tested for effects on malignant brain tumors.
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…3 cases of glioblastoma
2 cases of anaplastic astrocytoma,
1 case of pontine glioma,
2 cases of metastatic brain tumor &
1 case of medulloblastoma.
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Complete response was obtained in 1…case
Partial response was obtained in 2 cases,…
No change was observed in 2 cases,…
Progression of the disease was observed in 4 cases,…
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The effects of Ap on malignant brain tumors were considered due to synergy, since it was administered with other drugs & acceleration of tumor cellular differentiation.
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Ap is useful as an approach to remission maintenance therapy for brain tumors.
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/7474850/The_effect_of_Antineoplaston__a_new_antitumor_agent_on_malignant_brain_tumors
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The influence of antineoplaston A5 on particular subtypes of central dopaminergic receptors.
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M Juszkiewicz, A Chodkowska, … Z Kleinrok
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Drugs Exp Clin Res 21(4):153-6 (1995), PMID .8529528
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A new therapeutic strategy for the treatment of Parkinson’s disease…
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Antineoplaston A5…may…alleviate the symptoms of PD
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1994 – The influence of antineoplaston A5 on the central dopaminergic structures.
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M M Juszkiewicz, A A Chodkowska, … Z Z Kleinrok
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Drugs Exp Clin Res 20(4):161-7 (1994), PMID .7813388
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In CLINICAL TRIALS in advanced cancer, in addition to the anticancer activity it was observed that patients suffering from both cancer & Parkinson’s disease exhibited marked improvement in parkinsonian symtomatology when treated with antineoplaston A5.
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Plagiarism? really? Really?? REALLY???
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Fair Use Act – Learn IT, Like IT, Live IT, Love IT !!!
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Dude, I highly recommend that you switch to this as a section, or whatever, delimiter:

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I haven’t the foggiest what the “fair use” raving is about, though.

DJT,
Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the way that clinical trials normally work, their different phases and their purpose. There’s a useful introduction to this on Wikipedia.

Phase 3 clinical trials are randomized double-blind trials that, “assess the effectiveness of the new intervention and thereby, its value in clinical practice”. They also have to include large enough numbers of patients to be able to analyze the results statistically. Only after a drug has been through Phases 1, 2 and 3 can we say with any confidence that it is safe and effective.

The bottom line is that antineoplastons have not been through Phase 3 clinical trials so we don’t know if they are effective or not.

BTW about 50% of drugs fail Phase 3 trials due to a lack of efficacy so the fact that Burzynski has been given permission to carry out a Phase 3 trial does not prove antineoplastons are effective. Looking at what passes for Burzynski’s Phase 2 results, I really don’t understand how he could carry out a Phase 3 trial. It has probably been discussed here before, but I may have missed it. Anyone know how Burzynski got permission for a Phase 3 trial?

No, Diddums, neither of those were the question; they were both background to the question. The question was: what is Burzynski doing charging hundreds of thousands, which is what you do when you’re offering a treatment that’s been proven, and at the same time conducting cliinical trials, which are what you need when your hypothesized treatment has not been proven? Can’t have it both ways; your spamming of all that pro-antineoplaston “evidence” just highlights the fact that Burzynski should have completed trials by now, if the evidence was actually as good as hyped up to be by his fans.

Congratulations Diddums,

You tell us what we already know – That Burzynski has opened over 60 phase II trials in the last 3 – 4 decades in order to bilk the gullible and the desperate out of their life-savings.

The use of Phase II trials is merely a ruse to allow him to sidestep regulations and maintain his revenue stream. It also lends a sheen of scientific authenticity to his methods for the benefit of credulous fools such as yourself.

Why has he published no results from these trials? You would have thought that he would be frothing at the mouth to show the world that he was right, that antineoplastons are the miracle cure he promised.

Oh wait – you don’t think he hasn’t released any data because the results of the trials conducted prove that antineoplastons are a crock of the proverbial, do you?

All that discussion of html is for nought… Diddums still can’t compose either a sensible comment nor one formatted in a legible way.

And again, for someone being ‘neutral’, he’s certainly going out of his way to defend Burzyinski.

DJT, would you mind stating clearly and succinctly who in the medical profession, in your opinion, is in on the conspiracy to suppress cancer cures? Sample answers: “every doctor everywhere”, “every doctor in North America”, “every oncologist everywhere”, “only the editors of medical journals”, and so on. After that, would you mind answering this question either yes or no: in your opinion, is Orac in on the conspiracy?

12/8 Comments::
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Antaeus Feldspar:
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US Worldwide Ranking:
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2012 Estimated New Child Cancer: 12,060
Cancer 2nd leading cause death- children
2012 Estimated Breast Cancer Death: 39,920
2012 Estimated New Breast Cancer: 226,870
2012 Estimated Cancer Death-Wom: 275,370
2012 Estimated Cancer Death-Men: 301,820
2012 Estimated Cancer Deaths: 577,190
2012 Estimated New Cancer-Women 790,740
2012 Estimated New Cancer-Men: 848.170
2012 Estimated new cancer cases: 1.638,910
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SOURCE: American Cancer Society, Cancer Facts & Figures, 2012
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2009 Uninsured per Census: 51,000,000
Incarceration rates: 1st
Health Expenditures 1st (2005 – per capita)
Health Expenditures: 1st (2006)
Prostate Cancer Survival: 1st (2008)
Breast Cancer Survival: 2nd (2008 – Cuba 1st)
Health (out of pocket): 2nd (2008 out of 33)
Consumption of Beer: 2nd (2008)
Child Poverty:: 2nd (out of 35 economic powers)
Poverty: 3rd (Mexico – 1st)
Child Poverty: 4th (2008)
Spending on R & D. 4th (2006)
High School Ed. (25-64): 5th (Canada, Israel, Japan, Russia)
4th grade Reading: 6th (2011)
Satisfaction in Direction: 7th (2009 – USA is heading)
High School Graduation: 7th
Reading, Males: 7th (2009)
Reading, Women: 14th (2009)
College Graduation rate: 14th (out of 24-Australia 1st – 2008)
4th grade Math: 11th (2011)
Cancer Death Women: 11th (2009)
Govt.Health Expenditures: 13th (2006)
High School Ed. (25-34): 14th (20% behind Korea)
Reading Literacy: 15th
Where to be Born: 16th (2013)
Corruption: 17th (least corrupt of 179)
Cancer Death rate Men: 20th (2010)
State Legitimacy: 21st (2010)
Freedom of Press: 22nd (2012)
Freedom from Corruption: 22nd (2012 – out of 179)
Perceived Corruption: 22nd (2009 – out of 178)
PISA Science Score: 23rd (2009 – China 1st)
Perceived Honesty: 24th (2011 – out of 180)
Life Expantancy Women: 24th (2009)
Longevity: 27th (2009)
Science Scores: 29th (2006)
AIDS/HIV Death rate: 30th (2005)
Maternal Survival Rate: 34th
Breast Cancer Death: 41st (2004)
Prostate Cancer Death: 46th (2004)
Life Expectancy at Birth: 49th (2009 – 78.11 years)
Poverty rate: 49.7 million (2011)
Cardiovascular Disease: 56th (2002)
Cancer Death rates: 89th (2008)
Death rates: 96th (2010)
Commitment to Education 134th (2009)
Govt.Health Expenditures: 141st (2005 % total spending)
Infant Mortality: 148th
Child Mortality: 151st
Birth rates: 154th (2009)
Failed State Index: 158th (2010 – out of 177)
Surplus in Trade of Goods: 160,804,741,900 (2010)
Debt to China: 273,065,545,091 (2010)
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If he was truly doing clinical trials, then the people who agree to be his subjects in the trials are doing him a great service, putting their precious remaining years or months of life at risk so that his treatment can be tested; they should certainly be receiving some compensation for the risk they are taking to test out his putative treatment.
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Getting paid to participate in clinical trials:
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Some clinical trials will pay people for participating in the research but they are rare, primarily because the National Institutes of Health wish to discourage patients from participating in clinical trials solely for financial purposes.
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But as we all know, Burzynski actually charges his patients five and six figures to be in his trials; hell, you have to pay him just to get him to consider whether you’d be a suitable subject for his trials.
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Average cost of a 30 day cancer drug prescription more than $1,600 in 2006 & it’s even higher today.
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New drugs often cost $100,000 or more a year.
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Above estimates based on average costs from 2001-2006, before many expensive treatments came out.
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Cancer medicine approved last year costs $6,100 a month.
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1 patient $1.50 copay a month & another patient quoted $5,943.
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Hospital billed insurer $14,865 for a shot.
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Hospital wanted a $30,000 deposit.
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And despite its price, which can reach $100,000 a year, … has become one of the most popular cancer drugs in the world, with sales last year of about $3.5 billion, $2.3 billion of that in the US.
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Studies show the drug prolongs life by only a few months, if that. And some newer studies suggest the drug might be less effective against cancer than the FDA had understood when the agency approved its uses.
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Hospital – $45,000 to come in for Chemo.
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What possible justification can there be for Burzynski to be charging such exorbitant sums when a) the patient is the one providing something of value, b) the very fact of charging such huge amounts actually taints any data that theoretically might come out of the trials, since it excludes people who aren’t rich and can’t do effective fundraising from the study population?
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Sounds like an ethical question to me. Maybe you should ask Big Pharma, the NCI, the Mayo Clinic, because I can’t tell you how “surprised” I am that in Japan they have been researching Antineoplastons since at least 1988 & performing CLINICAL TRIALS. What does that say about science & the Medical Industrial Complex in America?

Once again, Dydidum makes absolutely no sense with its “interesting” method of posting.

Congratulations, DJT. You have managed to cement yourself as having less to offer than The Buzzer (which at least has been known to send QSLs).

“I can’t tell you how “surprised” I am that in Japan they have been researching Antineoplastons since at least 1988 & performing CLINICAL TRIALS”

I can’t tell you how surprised I am that researchers in Japan have been researching antineoplastons for twenty-four years and still don’t have any effective treatment to show for it. Do they also charge hundreds of thousands of dollars to participate in their trials?

“What does that say about science & the Medical Industrial Complex in America?”

That they haven’t wasted precious resources on an evident dead end.

I wonder if Diddums even realizes that every time he posts, he not only doesn’t answer the question, he makes Burzynski look even worse. He offers this:

Some clinical trials will pay people for participating in the research but they are rare, primarily because the National Institutes of Health wish to discourage patients from participating in clinical trials solely for financial purposes.

Let’s for the time being take that entirely at face value, and ask: Why?? We don’t say “Oh, I mustn’t pay my plumber too much; otherwise I’ll get a plumber who does plumbing solely for financial purposes,” do we? We are receiving something of value and we are exchanging financial reward for that value. So what’s the difference?

The difference is that putting an unusual financial constraint on the patient population of a study is prone to skew the data and make it of less scientific value. That applies whether you are offering a large reward for participation or, like Burzynski, charging six-figure fees for participation.

The fact that the text Diddums scrounged up to knock down the strawman “If these were real clinical trials, Burzynski would be paying them!” does not even mention the possibility of the patients being charged for participation reinforces what we’ve been saying: *real* clinical trials don’t both demand the patient donate their body to science (while they’re still in it) *and* charge them huge sums as well.

Burzynski’s public pose is that he’s doing clinical trials; his actions show he doesn’t believe it.

Diddums also trotted out a lot of random dollar-sign-featuring figures which, I suppose, were an attempt the premise “it is inherently too expensive to treat cancer with antineoplastons for Burzynski not to be charging the patients hundreds of thousands of dollars.”

Just a little bit of thought shows this to be bogus. Even if Burzynski can’t get a research grant to cover the costs of the treatment, a lot of the money that flows into his coffers (including that which goes into the upkeep of a luxurious mansion and not to the treatment of patients) is already raised by donations from people who (if they were given the background needed to consider their consent informed) knew that their money was being used to fund a clinical trial rather than a proven treatment. So simply ask people to fundraise towards the cost of conducting the study, rather than towards funding a particular patient’s participation in the study.

That’s what Burzynski could be doing instead of charging his patients, if he was actually serious about “clinical trials.” Another would be actually FINISHING trials.

DJT’s copy-pasta has some information which is so important on considering Burzynski’s conduct that I thought I should highlight it:

“Where to be Born: 16th (2013)” I don’t even know how you measure that. I imagine a psychic polling souls lined up waiting to be embodied as to where they would prefer to be born.

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Lawrence, WoW!!

What rock have you been hiding under?

You haven’t posted on this blog since 12/3!

Speaking of “not understanding,” you don’t seem to understand how to answer my question of 12/3 which you haven’t responded to.
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Cat got your Tongue?

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Science Mom, and I see you don’t know what The Fair Use Act is!
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This isn’t you’re Mom’s Science class!

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al kimeea, u should stick to watchin Pogey’s on your Bogey real tu-quack quick, cause this writin thing, it ain’t workin.

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Krebiozen, why didn’t you post all that information when you posed your question 12/5, if you thought it was so “important?”
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Cutting through your flim-flam, the only really important “FACT” is that, irregardless of the medical device used, the #’s I posted were the same:
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I stand by my 12/8 post::
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“Krebiozen, great job of re-posting basically everything I posted.”
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ME – Pg. 2: 2 cm. approximately – 5/11/2000 (12/8)
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YOU – There are 3 sets of measurements from 3 different imaging techniques which broadly agree with each other. (12/8)
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YOU – On page 2 it gives the approximate length of the tumor as seen on a CT scan as 2.2 cm. (12/8)
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YOU – I also notice that the tumor measured 2.2 cm x 1.8 cm x 1.5 cm on her MRI, which is 5.94 cm³. (12/5)
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ME – Pg. 3: 2.2 cm superior/inferior by 1.8 cm anterior/posterior by 1.5 cm mediclateral – 5/11/2000 (12/8)
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YOU – On page 3 it gives the approximate measurements of the tumor as seen on MRI, stating that “it may have a small ring of edema”, as 2.2 cm superior/inferior by 1.8 cm anterior/posterior by 1.5 cm making the volume of this tumor approximately 6 cm³. (12/8)
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YOU – Pre-op tumor size by MRI .on .May 11 approximately 6 cm³.
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ME – Pg. 5: 2.67 X 2.02 X 2.55 cm. approximately – 5/11/2000 (12/8)
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YOU – On page 5 it gives the results of proton magnetic resonance spectroscopy and approximate measurements of the tumor as 2.67 cm x 2.02 cm x 2.55 cm which I make approximately 14 cm³. (12/8)
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ME – Pg. 6: 2.2 cm superior/inferior by 1.8 cm anterior/posterior by 1.5 cm – 5/11/2000 (12/8)
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YOU – On page 6 it refers again to the size of the tumor estimated from the MRI, which is better at estimating size than proton magnetic resonance spectroscopy which is mainly used to establish the structure and composition of tumors, not their size. (12/8)
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ME – Pg. 2: 2 cm. approximately – 5/11/2000
ME – Pg. 3: 2.2 cm superior/inferior by 1.8 cm anterior/posterior by 1.5 cm mediclateral – 5/11/2000
ME – Pg. 5: 2.67 X 2.02 X 2.55 cm. approximately – 5/11/2000
ME – Pg. 6: 2.2 cm superior/inferior by 1.8 cm anterior/posterior by 1.5 cm – 5/11/2000
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YOU – All the above diagnostic procedures appear to have been carried out on or around 05/11/00.
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ME – Yes, that’s why my 4 sentences above had 5/11/2000 on them.
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ME – Pg. 8: 1.0 cm in length x 1.0 to 2.0 mm in thickness Labeled “biopsy left parietal mass”: The specimen consists of a core of gray tissue 5/15/2000 (12/8)
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YOU – On page 8 it refers to the size of the biopsy sample sent to the lab on 05/15/00. Part of this was used for a frozen section which was examined during the operation, notice it refers to “intraoperative frozen section consultation”. This means that part of the biopsy was frozen, sectioned and examined to provide the surgeon with information on what further action needed to be taken, during surgery while the patient is still on the table. Frozen sections are only done when further surgery may be necessary depending on the results. (12/8)
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YOU – You appear to have seriously misunderstood what they say, so allow me to explain. (12/8)
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ME – No, I see you’ve made a conscious decision to ignore jli’s “lymphoma or an inflammatory process” theory & concentrate your energy elsewhere; though you’re the one who wanted me to review this.
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YOU – After surgery the size of the tumor was 0.17³ which means that 97% of the tumor was removed during surgery, possibly more if you allow for post-operative inflammation as jli mentions. Not bad for an “inoperable” tumor. (12/5)
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ME – You’re “Theory” seems to be that the 5/11/2000
2.2 cm/1.8 cm/1.5 cm minus the 5/15/2000 biopsy of
1.0 cm/1.0 mm to 2.0 mm = 0.17!
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ME – If I understand math correctly,
2.2 cm minus 1.0 cm = 1.2 cm. And then if you lop off
1.0 mm to 2.0 mm from 1.8 cm or 1.5 cm, you then get
1.6 cm to 1.7 cm OR 1.3 cm to 1.4 cm.
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ME – So you then have:
1.2 cm/1.6 cm or 1.7 cm (if the 1.8 cm side was part of the biopsy) OR
1.2 cm/1.3 cm or 1.4 cm. (if the 1.5 cm side was part of the biopsy).
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ME – Leaving:
1.2 cm/1.8 cm/1.3 cm OR 1.4 cm OR
1.2 cm/1.6 cm OR 1.7 cm/1.5 cm
if we use your 6 cm instead of 14 cm example.
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ME – So your “Theory” is that additional surgery was done after the 5/15/2000 biopsy.
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YOU – Since the intraoperative consultation reports “high grade glioma” it is highly likely that further surgery was carried out and more of the tumor was removed. This is supported by the following information in Jodi’s records. (12/8)
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ME – Pg. 10: 6/1/2000 (12/8)
0.2 x 0.1 = 0.02
0.5 x 0.3 = 0.15
= 0.17
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YOU – On page 10 it gives the result of an MRI performed on 06/01/00 which found the volume of the tumor was 0.17 cm³. (12/8)
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YOU – Post-op tumor size by MRI .on .June 1 approximately 0.17 cm³. (12/8)
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YOU – Antineoplastons started .June 6. (12/8)
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YOU – The letter also mentions a brain FDG PET scan done on June 8 2000 that was “consistent with no residual neoplasm”. (12/8)
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YOU – Tumor undetectable by PET scan on .June 8. (12/8)
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ME – The pg. 12 letter you mention is dated 9/27/2001.
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YOU – So almost all the tumor had disappeared several days before the patient even started Burzynski’s treatment, and all of it had gone two days after treatment was started. The most likely explanation is that the tumor was removed during surgery, and the residual 0.17 cm³ seen on MRI was post-op inflammation. Burzynski’s treatment cannot possibly have had anything to do with this. (12/8)
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ME – Let’s not forget about the data on pg. 13:
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Pg. 13: 6/1/2000
0.3 / 0.2 / 0.06
0.5 / 0.3 / 0.15
= 0.21
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ME – And this came from where? 6/1/2000.
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YOU – Looking again at Jodi Fenton’s medical records as presented, the only thing that makes sense is that there’s a histopathology report missing. Somewhere there must be a histopathology report on the tumor that was removed after the surgeon was given the frozen section results. That report would include information on whether the tumor had clean margins or not.
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Tumors don’t just disappear after being biopsied, and the only reason the surgeon ordered a frozen section was to find out if the mass he or she had biopsied was malignant. As it was malignant and the surgeon was informed of this intraoperatively, he or she would surely have done his/her best to remove the tumor. Anyone with more specialized knowledge than I care to comment on this?
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Also, the letter from an unnamed person at OncoImaging P.A. refers to “the series of brain MRI examinations”, but also to “each of the MRI examinations” as if there were only sent two. They then refer to “the initial study in June” (my emphasis) […] “showed two foci of enhancement. These lesions subsequently resolved, a finding consistent with a complete response to therapy”.
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ME – This is the 1st time I’ve heard that the word “each” means “2.”
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YOU – Clearly this person was not sent the initial MRI taken on May 11 at all. They were asked to evaluate the post-op MRI taken on June 1 that showed some residual post-op inflammation, a PET scan from June 8, and a subsequent MRI that showed no mass at all. From the letter it is clear that they were not fully aware of what they were looking at, and were not shown the initial MRI that showed a 6 cm³ tumor at all. Isn’t that more than a little dishonest?
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ME – Dishonest? NO.
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If we go with your 6 cm “Theory,” to achieve:
0.2 x 0.1 = 0.02
0.5 x 0.3 = 0.15
= 0.17
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we must “ASSUME” your surgery “Theory,” that:
1.2 cm/1.8 cm/1.3 cm OR 1.4 cm OR
1.2 cm/1.6 cm OR 1.7 cm/1.5 cm
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was operated on to reduce it to 0.17 (if we ignore the 0.21 on pg. 13.)
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YOU – So based on what we are told and what we can deduce from the documentation, there are two possibilities:
1) A 2 cm anaplastic astrocytoma was biopsied. Without further intervention it shrunk to 0,5 cm.
Antineoplastons made the rest go away; this is in fact what the movie claims.
2) A 2 cm anaplastic astrocytoma was biopsied and then surgically removed. The subsequent inflammation
resolved on its own. (12/5)
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jli wrote:”At the start of the testimonial we were told that the astrocytoma was inoperable. Well – it was accessible for biopsy, so how then could it have been inaccessible to surgery?”
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ME – So you have “No Comment” for that?
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ME – Well, JGF says that it was “inoperable,” so who told her that? Was she given inaccurate information by a medical professional?
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Yes, you “ASSUMED” surgery, you don’t know who told her it was “inoperable,” have no comment for the 0.21, don’t know what medical records were sent to whom or not sent to whom, you have “No Comment” as to why her Oncologist would not do an on-camera segment or written statement for the Documentary, you’ve had time to see my post about Jodi’s Neurosurgeon saying she supposedly died, & you have “No Comment” & you don’t want to contact her; though I took initiative & contacted Merola re his comments.

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Merola:
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Second Dr. Black also claimed that the brain tumor patient he sent to Burzynski died shortly after.
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Well, the reality is, Jodi Fenton, who is the first patient in my film consulted with Dr. Black before going to Burzynski.
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Dr. Black told her he was a fraud and a quack.
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30 days later – Jodi was cured of her brain tumor.
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Dr. Black fails to acknowledge this.
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As Jodi said in the film
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he just wrote it off”.
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agashem, I believe in Equal Opportunity.
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If you want to believe YOU came from a Monkey, you have Equal Opportunity to believe it.
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It’s possible you are the descendant of a creature that throws its own Poo.
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Speaking of “trolls,” which bridge did you crawl out from under?

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JGC, just because you don’t want to do the research, doesn’t mean it’s not been done. Have you actually reviewed at least 1 of his Phase I or II Clinical Trials Publications I’ve posted the references too on here in a prior post; “YOU WANT ANSWERS (Part 1)?
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Shay, it would be great if you actually had something relevant To-“Shay.”

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Alain, are you indicating you have read an SRB Phase I or Phase II Clinical Trial Publication?
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Yes, or No?

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Narad, so you believe in the non-ending question that is actually multiple questions?
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Maybe you should be one of those “Investigative Journalists” who asks questions like that!

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Chris, you must find yourself unable to even apologize for your 11/28 misrepresentation of what I posted right before you that day, & I asked you again when you were going to apologize on 12/2, & on 12/6 & 12/8 I again mentioned you hadn’t apologized, you were as silent as Orac to my 12/9 post, so amazingly enough, I’m not in any hurry to do something you want.
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Come on. Do it. It should take you less than ten lines of verbiage!

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Antaeus Feldspar, 1 question inside another question followed by a question?
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Are you using the “New Math” where you live?

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flip, too busy reading Jesse Ventura’s Book: “Conspiracy Theory?”

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12/11 Comments:
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MarkL, I can’t help it if you can’t read.
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So you expect me to believe that you have read at least 1 of his Phase I or II Clinical Trial Publications?
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Yes, or No?

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novalox, have you considered changing your name to something people who read your post would want to take?
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Novocain!

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Narad, your post reminds me of “2001: A Space Odessey,” especially the part with the Cave Monkies.

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LW, what kind of computer are you using? One with vacuum tubes from 1958?

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Mephistopheles O’Brien, the other day I went back in a Time Machine & met a guy who said his name was Galileo & he said the Earth was Round.
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It looked flat to me. There was water around, Galileo said I could sail around the World for $150,000. I asked if his ship was safe; he said it was. I asked to see his test protocols and results to see if it was more likely I’d arrive safely, die on impact, or be flung into the abyss; he said it was effective but would not produce the data I looked for.
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Should I, or should I not, tell others that there’s no proof that this man’s protocol is safe and effective?

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flip, I know you may find this difficult to swallow; as i do your inability to process information, but I’m not your “B*TCH.”
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I’ll compose my posts like I want to.
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There’s no doubt in my mind that if you were alive when Galileo was around, you would’ve been clamoring that he was a “Heritic” & should be burned at the stake because he hath no Clinical Trials that I can see because I can’t bother myself to look, I am like a balloon full of hot air, sallying forth on the currents of the wind, yammering on a out HTML, WordPress,
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Alain,

4-: correct
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Lawrence, what are you claiming he didn’t publish?

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Bronze Dog, why have you not read the test results?

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JGC, where has the test results not been published?

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Science Mom, maybe y’all should go back to your “scientific” discussion of HTML !!

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Shay, don’t know how to # them?

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Antaeus Feldspar, funny how they can do it in Japan but your NCI, Mayo Clinic, & “critics” can’t!
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Are you admitting the Japanese are more intelligent than you & the “critics?”
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Yes, or No?

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LW, so you have been living under a rock as well, I see!

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12/13 Comments:

Don’t worry about Mensa, stick with what you’ve shown you are much better at doing rather than discussing Science, gab away about HTML !!!

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12/14 Comments:
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Narad, Dude, I ain’t yo “BEOTCH!”
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The “Fair Use” is for “plagiarism” Major Science Maw.

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Krebiozen, I trust Wikipedia like I trusted George Herbert Walker “Read My Lips. No New Taxes” Bush & George W. “Saddam Hussein has Chemical Weapons,” “Mission Accomplished” Bush.
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Perhaps you are unfamiliar with Antaeus Feldspar’s 12/8 post?

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Antaeus Feldspar,OH !! So now you want to “Qualify” your question!!!
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You are the one who posted
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12/8
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The question is this: Burzynski claims to be conducting clinical trials, testing out a treatment that has clinical equipoise (that is, it may or may not work or might even potentially make things worse; not knowing which it is is why we are doing trials.) If he was truly doing clinical trials, then the people who agree to be his subjects in the trials are doing him a great service, putting their precious remaining years or months of life at risk so that his treatment can be tested; they should certainly be receiving some compensation for the risk they are taking to test out his putative treatment. But as we all know, Burzynski actually charges his patients five and six figures to be in his trials; hell, you have to pay him just to get him to consider whether you’d be a suitable subject for his trials.
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What possible justification can there be for Burzynski to be charging such exorbitant sums when a) the patient is the one providing something of value, b) the very fact of charging such huge amounts actually taints any data that theoretically might come out of the trials, since it excludes people who aren’t rich and can’t do effective fundraising from the study population?
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If you don’t give us your answer within your next three comments, it will be taken as you answering: “Burzynski’s trials are just a ruse so that he can sell his ‘treatment’ without having to ever prove it works, and that’s okay because Burzynski shouldn’t have to follow the same rules that restrict everyone else.
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You just couldn’t wait for me to finish replying to your multiple questions posing as 1 question.
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MarkL, Congratulations “London Broil.”
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It’s great to hear that your head is still firmly planted in your nether regions.
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I’m waiting for you to say the same about the Japanese.
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You are such the “Detective.”
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Do you work for Scotland Yard?
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Have you read all the Phase I & II Clinical Trials Publications?
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Yes, or No?
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Let me spell it out for you.
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1. PHASE I CLINICAL TRIALS – If you do not provide the FDA what they need, you do not pass GO & collect PHASE II CLINICAL TRIALS.
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2. The FDA obviously approved PHASE II CLINICAL TRIALS.
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3. PHASE II CLINICAL TRIALS – If you do not provide the FDA what they need, you do not pass GO & collect PHASE III CLINICAL TRIALS.
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4. The FDA obviously approved PHASE III CLINICAL TRIALS.
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flip, I’m not your “B*TCH.”
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I’ll compose my posts like I want to.
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There’s no doubt in my mind that if you were alive when Galileo was around, you would’ve been clamoring that he was a “Heritic” & should be burned at the stake.
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And if I didn’t provide the information that disproves your lame examples of excuses, youl’d be stuck flapping your gums in the breeze like I dog with its head out the window of a car, clicking away about HTML!!

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LW, where did I mention a “Conspiracy” other than to post that flip & Orac were possibly “Conspiracy Theorists?”

@DJT – you mean in your insane ramblings, there was a question in there somewhere?

Since you don’t seem to be able to format or really understand grammar / posts, I find it extremely difficult to get a sense of anything that you are trying to say.

The more you rant, the worse it looks for Dr. B – if you’re the best he can put out there.

LW, what kind of computer are you using? One with vacuum tubes from 1958?

Says the person commenting in some sort of lost version of COBOL.

More red herrings and bullshit from diddums.

Yet again you attempt to use sophistry rather than provide the information necessary to support your argument. Phase III trials do not depend on proving efficacy in phase II trials.

Either you are a liar or you are a moron. In either case, you are WRONG.

More red herrings and bullsh*t from diddums.

Yet again you attempt to use sophistry rather than provide the information necessary to support your argument. You can waffle and make snide comments all you want, but until you show us the Phase II trial data from any one of Burzynski’s 62 phase II trials that shows Burzynski’s treatment has efficacy, you lose.

Thems the rules.

@Didymus Judas Thomas

“LW, what kind of computer are you using? One with vacuum tubes from 1958?”

No.  What kind of silly question is that?  It may surprise you to learn that even today we can program in assembly language on modern computers. It’s just that we mostly don’t because it’s easier and quicker to program in a somewhat higher-level language.

@Didymus Judas Thomas

“Galileo said I could sail around the World for $150,000. I asked if his ship was safe; he said it was.”

The fact that the world is not flat was determined long before Galileo, and not because you can sail around it. Several pieces of evidence, observed by ancient Greeks: ships sailing away disappear from the hull first, as if going over a hill; the edge of the shadow of the Earth on the Moon during a lunar eclipse is always the edge of a circle; the paths of stars and the Sun are observed at different heights as you move north or south.

Eratosthenes used the fact that the Sun is observed at different heights depending on your latitude to get quite a good estimate of the diameter of the Earth. Educated people like Galileo knew this. The question facing Columbus was not whether the Earth was flat; everybody involved in financing his expedition knew it was not. Columbus believed it was much smaller than it really is and that educated people (correctly) expected that it was, and therefore that ships of the time could make it all the way to India, which they could not.   

@Didymus Judas Thomas

“LW, so you have been living under a rock as well, I see!”

Not as such, no. I don’t know what this might be a response to. Maybe my observation that the Japanese researchers who supposedly have been researching antineoplastons since 1988 don’t seem to have produced any treatments. If Didymus Judas Thomas wished to engage in rational discourse, he would describe some of the treatments they have developed. He could even do so snarkily and with suggestions of my intellectual inferiority in not knowing. But when he doesn’t seem to know either, the snark and suggestions of my intellectual inferiority seem a bit … misjudged.

@Didymus Judas Thomas,

What LW said.

When someone claims something, it’s only appropriate to ask him/her/it for the evidence supporting that claim. Galileo published his results, his methods, and the observations.

Burzyinski has claimed that he can cure cancer more reliably and with fewer side effects than the current standard of care. If he can do it – great. He needs to prove it. But just because I cannot do what he claims to be able to do doesn’t mean I should keep silent about his inability to prove his claims.

By the way, my understanding is that Burzynski got on his antineoplastons kick because he claimed cancer patients were depleted in antineoplastons.

Did he consider the possibility that cancer cells eat them?

Somewhere in that haystack, there may be a needle, but I doubt it and I’m not going to bother looking for it. Le jeu ne vaut pas la chandelle.

Perhaps Sir Diddimus believes that if he keeps vomiting up this cr*p he will sufficiently distract the reader from his utter failure to explain why Burzynski’s research has yet to produce any verifiable results.

Put up or shut up, D. One paragraph. One sentence, even. Where are the results?

Narad December 15, 2012:

Says the person commenting in some sort of lost version of COBOL.

Narad, I taught COBOL. I knew COBOL. COBOL was a friend of mine. Diddy, you’re no COBOL.

DJT,
I have no idea what you are trying to communicate, and I’m not at all sure you do either.

Squidymus n. a creature that emits vast clouds of irrelevant verbiage when threatened with facts, will do anything to avoid an intelligent, adult discussion.

Science Mom, and I see you don’t know what The Fair Use Act is!

No, that would be definitely you who doesn’t seem to be able to able the DMCA to your incoherent screeds. You don’t present other’s work as your own even if you are allowed to disseminate it.

This isn’t you’re Mom’s Science class!

I had no idea you were even discussing anything remotely scientific. Who can even read your frothing drivel. Before embarking upon childish commentary about your superior intellect, you may wish to learn homonyms and basic html code.

It’s still just one question, Diddums, and one you still haven’t dared to answer.

I gave you background to the question so that you couldn’t waste everyone’s time pretending you didn’t have the information necessary to answer the question. Some people might argue that taking that precaution made my comment longer than it needed to be. But one person who has no right whatsoever to complain about that is the person who used not one but three comments to cut and paste an entire SEC filing, instead of saying “I claim that Burzynski’s research is thus-and-such, and to support my claim, I present the following relevant excerpt from his SEC filing.”

It’s still one question. And you still haven’t answered it.

12/14 Comments:
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Lawrence,

Once again you have not answered my 12/3 question to you.

You are nothing but a Time-waster who can’t support your blatherskite.

I am ignoring you.

You are just a Tu-Quacker.
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Narad,

Congratulations!!

You once again have no response to my three 12/4″The Land of the Brave posts.

You do nothing but shilly-shally & obfuscate & are a waster of my time.

I am ignoring you also.

You are just another confirmed Tu-Quacker.
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LW,

And you have researched this & have Scientific data to support your non-supported statement, or are you just another one of the laggards on this blog?

“I can’t tell you how surprised I am that researchers in Japan have been researching antineoplastons for twenty-four years and still don’t have any effective treatment to show for it. Do they also charge hundreds of thousands of dollars to participate in their trials?”
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LW,

And where is your Scientific data to buttress your unsupported babble?

Or are you just continuing your uncorroborated flatulence from above?

“That they haven’t wasted precious resources on an evident dead end.”
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Pareidius,

Some drink from the fountain of knowledge, but it sounds like you just gargled.
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Antaeus Feldspar,

And your “FACTS” are supported by what unsubstantiated source?

You are supposedly here on a Science blog to debate Science whilst many others here are just MasterdeBaters..
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Antaeus Feldspar,

Random $ figures my arse.

I cited the source; a process which you seem to be incapable of mastering.

“Anyone know how Burzynski got permission for a Phase 3 trial?”

See below.
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LW,

I understand that the concept of Internet research may be foreign to you.

“Where to be Born: 16th (2013)”

Is referring to the USA now being considered the 16th best country to be born in, considering factors as medical care, education, cost-of-living, etc.

It’s great that the USA is #1 in incarnation of individuals in prisons.

And #2 in Beer consumption.

I couldn’t be prouder!
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Lawrence,

Excuses, Excuses, Excuses. Tu-Quacker.
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Narad,

Tu-Quacker.
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MarkL,

I’m glad to see you’re not letting your education get in the way of your ignorance.

You were provided in my 12/8 post:

YOU WANT ANSWERS ??? (PART 1)
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1986 – All…were submitted for PHASE I CLINICAL STUDIES…
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1987 – Initial CLINICAL STUDY…with 5 years’ follow-up.
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This paper describes PHASE I CLINICAL STUDIES…
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1987 – PHASE I CLINICAL STUDIES…
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…was submitted for PHASE II CLINICAL STUDIES…
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1987 – PHASE I CLINICAL STUDIES…
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1990 – The present study describes the results of treatment… in PHASE II CLINICAL TRIALS…
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/15911929/Long_term_survival_of_high_risk_pediatric_patients_with_primitive_neuroectodermal_tumors_treated_with_antineoplastons_A10_and_AS2_1
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And yet you have NOT provided any indication that you made any effort whatsoever to access the web-site & purchase the publications.

You are just another prevaricator.

I am ignoring you as well, Tu-Quacker.
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LW,

Your 12/12:

Your 12/12:

“That hierarchical formatting looks like the way I used to subdivide assembly language programs.”

I input straight text.

“One of many reasons to doubt Burzynski’s claims:

He did publish a little thirty years ago. He did get some patents. There were some (unsuccessful) tests of his claims; they too were reported. These things are public records accessible to anyone in the world who is interested. And the source for his antineoplastons was urine, a raw material readily available anywhere humans can be found.”

“So anyone in the world could have picked up the challenge and started testing and refining his protocol. It wouldn’t be too expensive for even a small third-world nation — how do I know? Because Burzynski claims to have done the research on his own dime while siphoning off enough for his lavish lifestyle.”

“FACTS?” Innuendo. Unsubstantiated. No cites. GIGO – Garbage In, Garbage Out.

“Sure, such research might, initially anyway, infringe on his patents, but so what? America is not the world and American patents do not control in every country.”

That’s why individuals file in multiple countries.

SRB has done research with Japanese researchers, & you would know this if you researched before posting.

“So why didn’t anybody in the world in three decades do the research and come up with a workable protocol? Why aren’t there already antineoplaston clinics around the world?”

You want someone to do the historical research for you?

“Unless, of course, it just doesn’t work.”

Yeah, right.

I’ll get to this baloney “sammich” later.
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LW,

Great. But who was persecuted for it more than Galileo?
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LW,

And I misjudged that you couldn’t program your computer to help you access that information since you provide no scintilla of evidence to indicate you accessed any of the web-site links I provided re the research being done in Japan.

12/8 YOU WANT ANSWERS ??? (PART 2)

You are another dissimulator.
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Mephistopheles O’Brien,

And you are the same as Narad, above.
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LW,

Did you consider to read up on it instead of wanting someone to spoon-feed it to you?

“Did he consider the possibility that cancer cells eat them?”
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Shay,

Paresse n’est pas une excuse.

See above to Narad.
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Bill Price,

I kicked COBOL in the COBOLS.
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Krebiozen

I expected.no less from you. When the rubber meets the road you are nothing but the smoke that proceeds forth from the tires.
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Kreblogizen

is a creature that posts on blogs, but can’t back up his thoughts with “FACTS.”
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Science Mom,

You obviously lack reading comprehension.

Examples of fair use include commentary, criticism, & educational purposes.

Purpose & character of the use, including whether such use is for…nonprofit educational purposes.

Amount & substantiality of the portion used in relation to the…work as a whole.

You know the source.

Please do not embarrass yourself further since you equate Science with your name.
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herr doktor bimler,

Sounds like you could use a good Rorschach test.
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Antaeus Feldspar,

I answered your multiple question which you tried to pass off as 1 question.

You remind me of the History teacher I had in Middle School, who; knowing that his class consisted of non-voting age students, liked to ejaculate:

“YOU … DON’T … GET … A … VOTE !!!”

Well, Guess What Antaeus?

“YOU … DON’T … GET … A … VOTE !!!”

Irregardless of whether you like it or not, that IS my answer.

1. FACT: SRB provided the FDA the PHASE I CLINICAL TRIAL data they required in order to proceed to PHASE II CLINICAL TRIALS.

2. FACT: SRB provided the FDA the PHASE II CLINICAL TRIAL data they required in order to proceed to PHASE III CLINICAL TRIALS.

3. FACT: You have provided NOT one scintilla of evidence that you have read any of the publications noted above in my post to MarkL.

Quit wasting people’s time when you seriously don’t know Jack or do Jack.

I know Jack, and you’re no Jack!!!

I am ignoring you also.

Groovy. It’s always good to lighten the load of unnecessary steps in a task, in this case being straightforward ridicule.

LW,
Great. But who was persecuted for it more than Galileo?

Face it, LW, no matter how many times you explain to Didymo that Galileo did not announce the roundness of the world (because this had been the accepted truth for a millennium before his time), Didymo will still come back with the claim that Galileo was persecuted for saying that the world was round.

“Great. But who was persecuted for it more than Galileo?”

If we were talking about what Galileo *actually* said and not what DJT fantasizes, one answer would be Giordano Bruno.

I wonder if DJT is about fifteen and just started debate class. I remember in my one year of debate encountering people who thought that you won by piling up citations instead of reasoning.

In this case, DJT challenges me on the statement that Burzynski’s claims about his antineoplastons haven’t given rise to any established treatments and demands that I sift through its endless copy-pasta and google each and every one of its claims.

But why should I? Burzynski claims to be running Phase II clinical trials. Everyone acknowledges that, even DJT. You don’t run Phase II clinical trials on established treatments. Therefore, Burzynski’s theories have not given rise to established treatments.

It does not matter that the Japanese have also been researching; if they’d come up with established treatments, Burzynski could not continue to claim to be running Phase II clinical trials. You don’t run Phase II clinical trials on established treatments.

No amount of copy-pasta, no incoherent insults, no ignorance of the history of science, can alter this conclusion. And I’m not going to waste my time trying to respond to DJT’s blather, as it is evidently incapable of reasoned thought.

the USA is #1 in incarnation of individuals in prisons.

I am beginning to suspect that DJT is not being entirely serious.

Diddums is a Troll.

He knows full well that “go and look it up yourself” is not a satisfactory answer. He also knows that providing links for which we have to pay in order to verify his claims will enrage.

He is a cretin, with nothing to add to the argument, and probably derives huge amounts of pleasure from acting like an @sshole!

Watching Diddums is like watching a bot devolve. Diddums, the Fair Use Act is a legal defence, not an excuse to plagiarise others’ works on an internet forum.

Squidymus,

I tend to agree with MarkL, but in any case I have made an effort to decipher your last screed.

Krebiozen, why didn’t you post all that information when you posed your question 12/5, if you thought it was so “important?”

I made the mistake of assuming that you didn’t need it to be explained to you.

I stand by my 12/8 post:: “Krebiozen, great job of re-posting basically everything I posted.”

Your comment was basically unintelligible. It consisted of a gross misunderstanding of what jli wrote, followed by a mass of unexplained, out of context data, with “The truth is out there somewhere” tagged on the end. My comment was written in intelligible English, and made a series of points, each supported by evidence. Can’t you see the difference?

I see you’ve made a conscious decision to ignore jli’s “lymphoma or an inflammatory process” theory & concentrate your energy elsewhere; though you’re the one who wanted me to review this.

jli does not have a ““lymphoma or an inflammatory process” theory”, you have somehow misunderstood what he wrote. He wrote:

So based on what we are told and what we can deduce from the documentation, there are two possibilities:
1) A 2 cm anaplastic astrocytoma was biopsied. Without further intervention it shrunk to 0,5 cm.
Antineoplastons made the rest go away; this is in fact what the movie claims.
2) A 2 cm anaplastic astrocytoma was biopsied and then surgically removed. The subsequent inflammation resolved on its own.

As I said, you have misunderstood what jli wrote, or perhaps not since you repeated it yourself in your later comment, in which case you are being deliberately misleading here.

ME – You’re “Theory” seems to be that the 5/11/2000 2.2 cm/1.8 cm/1.5 cm minus the 5/15/2000 biopsy of 1.0 cm/1.0 mm to 2.0 mm = 0.17!

That’s the discrepancy I have been pointing out, that 6 cm³ – 0.12 cm³ does not equal 0.17 cm³ i.e. the initial tumor size minus the size of the reported biopsy sample is far larger than the size of the tumor as measured 2 weeks later. My hypothesis is that something happened between the biopsy on 5/15/00 and the MRI on 6/1/00 that would explain this.

So your “Theory” is that additional surgery was done after the 5/15/2000 biopsy.

I think it is very likely that when the frozen section done during the biopsy came back as a high grade glioma, the surgeon proceeded to excise the tumor. As jli wrote:

A frozen section analysis provides information to be used in deciding whether or not to proceed with surgery. Had the diagnosis been lymphoma, the decision would have been a no. This diagnosis establishes a reason to proceed with the surgical procedure. So we are right in asking ourselves if she did have further tumour tissue removed.

Harvard’s ‘Brain Tumor Primer’ (p35) states:

Generally, the first step in the treatment of an anaplastic astrocytoma is surgery. The goals of surgery are to obtain tumor tissue for diagnosis and treatment planning, to remove as much tumor as possible, and to reduce the symptoms caused by the presence of the tumor.

I can’t make any sense of the next part of your comment as it simply repeats the information I posted that supports my hypothesis. Whatever way you look at it, the volume of the tumor after surgery was much smaller than it was before surgery, and that reduction in size occurred before Burzynski started treating the patient.

Let’s not forget about the data on pg. 13: Pg. 13: 6/1/2000 0.3 / 0.2 / 0.06 0.5 / 0.3 / 0.15 = 0.21 ME – And this came from where? 6/1/2000.

It came from one of Burzynski’s documents: 0.17 cm³ is from an enhanced MRI, 0.21 cm³ is from an unenhanced MRI. These are two very similar sizes reported from the same day. What is your point?

This is the 1st time I’ve heard that the word “each” means “2.”

You misunderstand me, perhaps I didn’t express myself very clearly. The letter says, “the initial study in June showed two foci of enhancement. These lesions subsequently resolved, a finding consistent with a complete response to therapy”, and also refers to “the MRI finding of necrosis with edema”. The MRIs of significance are the one from 5/11/00 which showed a tumor 2 cm in length, the one from 6/1/00 post-op which showed two very small loci of enhancement, and the one from 7/3/00 which found “no visible tumor”. Instead of being sent all these MRIs, it appears that OncoImaging were only sent the last two, in what seems to me a deliberate attempt to mislead them. Interestingly it seems the MRI report from 6/1/00 referred to necrosis with edema, which perhaps explains why that one is missing from Jodi’s records. Burzynski’s treatment was not started until 5 days later.

Dishonest? NO.

You have an alternate explanation for OncoImaging apparently being asked to comment on incomplete information?

If we go with your 6 cm “Theory,” to achieve: [….] = 0.17 we must “ASSUME” your surgery “Theory,” that: [… measurements of initial tumor] was operated on to reduce it to 0.17 (if we ignore the 0.21 on pg. 13.)

I have repeatedly said that something must have happened between 5/11/00 and 6/1/00 that dramatically reduced the size of her tumor, and since on 5/15/00 she was on an operating table with a surgeon operating on her brain, and since he ordered a frozen section during the operation, the most likely explanation is that the tumor was removed during that operation. I am assuming nothing. Why else did the surgeon order a frozen section?

For no apparent reason you then repeat jli’s summary of the possibilities (see above), and his comment that:

At the start of the testimonial we were told that the astrocytoma was inoperable. Well – it was accessible for biopsy, so how then could it have been inaccessible to surgery?

To which you add:

So you have “No Comment” for that?

What comment do you expect? These are the two logical possibilities we can deduce from the facts. I think the second one is the most likely. I thought I had made that very clear. As for the inoperability of the tumor, anaplastic astocytomas are often difficult to completely remove by surgery, as they tend to infiltrate surrounding tissue. The important question is how much of the tumor was it possible to remove?

Well, JGF says that it was “inoperable,” so who told her that? Was she given inaccurate information by a medical professional?

I don’t know, and neither do you. This is hearsay. Perhaps she was confused by the traumatic experience she was going through at the time, and when she was told it would be difficult to remove all the tumor she understood this to mean it was inoperable. Perhaps she misunderstood what she was told. Perhaps whoever told her this was mistaken. We don’t know. She also said in the movie, “So, Dr. Burzynski cured me of a brain tumor”, which we know is almost certainly not true.

I prefer to go by solid evidence like radiology and pathology reports.

Yes, you “ASSUMED” surgery,

No I didn’t! She indisputably had surgery on 5/15/00. During that surgery we know a biopsy was done and we know a frozen section was done during the surgery. As I have explained repeatedly, a frozen section is done so that the surgeon can get a histopathology result while the patient is still on the table. I find it very hard to believe that the surgeon would have waited until the result came back as, reportedly, “high grade glioma” and simply closed his patient up. What was the point of the frozen section?

you don’t know who told her it was “inoperable,”

Correction, I don’t know if anyone told her it was inoperable

have no comment for the 0.21,

What comment do you expect? The tumor’s volume by enhanced MRI was 0.17 cm³ and by unenhanced MRI it was 0.21 cm³ – there is little difference.

don’t know what medical records were sent to whom or not sent to whom,

I can make deductions from the available evidence, and deduce that the evidence is incomplete, is inconsistent with the story we are told in the movie, and that it suggests that the evidence was presented selectively in a deliberate attempt to deceive the viewer. As Orac put it, “the reports included represent a highly selected subset of these patients’ medical records, mainly just a series of radiology and pathology reports, and in one of them a key pathology report is missing”.

you have “No Comment” as to why her Oncologist would not do an on-camera segment or written statement for the Documentary,

What possible relevance does this have to her case? Perhaps the oncologist did not want to be associated with a commercial for a doctor widely considered a quack. Perhaps the oncologist did give a written statement that didn’t support the version of the case being presented, so it was omitted.

you’ve had time to see my post about Jodi’s Neurosurgeon saying she supposedly died, & you have “No Comment”

I must have missed this in your enormous mass of irrelevant logorrhea. Are you referring to Dr Keith Black? He was not Jodi’s neurosurgeon, we only have Merola’s word for what he said, and he may have been referring to a different patient. More irrelevant distraction from the facts.

& you don’t want to contact her; though I took initiative & contacted Merola re his comments.

Why would I want to contact her? It is very clear from the available evidence that Burzynski did not cure her of anything, but for some reason she believes otherwise.

I would be interested to see the full radiology reports of the enhanced and unenhanced MRIs carried out on 6/1/00. I would also be interested in seeing a report of the biopsy and whether any subsequent surgery was done after the surgeon got the frozen section result. Who do you suggest In contact to get hold of these?

30 days later – Jodi was cured of her brain tumor.

Or, Jodi had brain surgery on 5/15/00, an MRI on 6/1/00 showed nothing but residual necrosis and edema and another MRI on 7/3/00 showed no signs of a tumor. I very much doubt that Burzynski’s treatment that was started on 6/6/00 had anything at all to do with it. This case is certainly not any sort of evidence for the efficacy of Burzynski’s treatment.

My only real interest in this case is that the evidence has been cherry-picked and manipulated to make it look as if Bursynski was responsible for the disappearance of Jodi Fenton’s tumor. It’s misleading and dishonest.

Dr. Nicholas Patronas, is currently the Senior Clinician, Chief. Section of Neuroradiology,, Radiology and Imaging Sciences, National Institutes of Health, NIH Clinical Center
http://www.cc.nih.gov/drd/staff/nicholas_patronas.html

Court Testimony Of Nicholas Petronas, MD

(Board-Certified Radiologist Professor of Radiology at Georgetown University, and Founder of the Neuroradiology section of the National Cancer Institute)

Discussing the effectiveness of antineoplaston treatment vs. chemotherapy and radiation treatment in brain cancer.

May 24, 1993

Administrative Hearing Docket .503-92-509

License No. D-9377

In The Matter Of The Complaint Against Stanislaw R. Burzynski, M.D.

Before The Texas State Board Of Medical Examiners

Before Earl A. Corbitt, Administrative Law Judge

Volume I of II

May 24, 1993

Pg. 113

Direct Examination

Q: Dr. Petronas, what is your profession?

A: I’m a radiologist, a medical doctor specializing in radiology.

Q: Would you tell us briefly your educational background?

A: Well, after the medical school we have a year internship, four years residency in radiology, and in addition I had an entire year of training in neuroradiology. So my subspecialty is neuroradiology. It is the evaluation of the regions of the central nervous system.

Pg. 114

Q: And would you relate your work experience, please?

A: when I finished my training I was at the University of Chicago for seven years as a staff radiologist at the University Hospital. And then I moved to the National Institutes of Health where I worked from ’81 to ’85 as a staff radiologist at the clinical center, which is the hospital of the National Institutes of Health. Then I moved to Georgetown University where I became full professor of radiology. And the National Institutes of Health contracted Georgetown radiological services, and I was sent from Georgetown back to NIH to cover the section.of Neuroradiology.

Q: And so you work at the National Institutes of Health hospital; is that where you work?

A: yeah, at the hospital initially as a federal employee from ’81 to ’85, and then on contract from Georgetown University. So I am one of the 17 radiologists who provide radiological services to the National Institutes of Health.

Q: What is the function or purpose of the hospital of the National Institutes of Health?

A: As you know, there are a lot of research protocols that

Pg. 115

are going on, and people who are admitted to this facility are being admitted to try experimental treatment. As they are admitted to the hospital, the hospital requires an X-ray Department and radiologists to man the department. And so we evaluate the various lesions that are being admitted under these approved protocols, and we assess the effectiveness of the treatment given there, using imaging modalities such as MRI or CT scans and regular radiology.

Q: And that would be for the various health departments or what’s called institutes?

A: Exactly, the various institutes, yes.

Q: Like the National Cancer Institute, that’s one of them?

A: That’s the biggest of all, yeah.

Q: What– Basically then, you do the, in layman’s terms, you do all the imaging work and interpretation for the National Cancer Institute testing of drugs?

A: Exactly.

Q: Because– and what happens is, they give the drugs to the people and you have to get– they have to have a scan before to see what they had–

A: Exactly.

Q: –then when they go into treatment they have to get scans to see what, if any, effect–

A: To see whether they are effective or not, yes.

Pg. 116

A: That’s my job, to assess the effectiveness of the drugs that are given there and to provide the diagnosis at the initial stage, upon admission.

Q: Dr. Petronas, did there come a time when you became aware of Dr. Burzynski?

A: Yes, it was when Michael Hawkins from NCI asked me to join a group of other physicians and scientist and come to Houston on a site visit to Dr. Burzynski’s Institute in order to assess the best case scenario that he had to present us of his patients who were treated with antineoplastons. So that was the first time when I was aware that there was an anticancer agent. And I was called as an expert in assessing the images to evaluate, together with the rest, the other five members of that team, to evaluate the effectiveness of his treatment.

Q: And did you have occasion to actually go down to Houston, Texas?

A: Yes, we spent about seven hours at the Burzynski Institute and we reviewed the material that was given to us.

Q: What material did you review?

A: Initially there was a presentation of the cases by Dr. Burzynski; each different case was studied seperately. We were given the history, the pathology, the previous treatment and the timing of these treatments, and we have someone who recorded these data.

Pg. 117

Then the histological slides were presented to one of our neuropathologist, one neuropathologist who was also a guest consultant in the team. We reviewed the slides and confirmed the histological of the grade of the tumor that Dr. Burzynski was indicating in his presentation. Then there were assessments of the images, either CT scans or CAT scans, or MRI scans. They were serial studies in any given patient. So we were able to see how the tumor started and how it ended up under treatment.

Q: How many patients did you concern yourself with at that time?

A : we reviewed the material of seven cases. We did not have more time to review more. These were the–

Q: So that basically took up the whole day?

A : The whole day. yes; one hour per case.

Q: And what happened after you reviewed the cases?

A: Well, we took our notes and we discussed the findings, and there was a report that was issued indicating what we found.

Pg. 118

Q: We have marked for identification Exhibit 27. Will you see if you can identify that for us?

A: Yeah, I have seen this. Yeah.

Q: And is this– What exactly is this?

A: it was a letter to Dr. Burzynski from Dorothy Macfarlane, one of the people who was part of the team. And the memorandum shows or summarizes are findings for each individual patient. And this is exactly document that we came up with.

Q: What was the basic conclusion of the– that you indicated?

A: The basic conclusion was that in five of the patients with brain rumors that were fairly large, the tumor resolved, disappeared.

Q: Was that just happenstance? I mean, was that just by some miracle of–

A: Well, since the treatment given was started after the previous conventional treatments which had failed previously, we took the position that this probably represents the result of this new treatment. And so there was only minimal residual tissue at the tumor bed, which looked like a sca, and had no fissures to support that there was a tumor in the majority of the cases. Two of seven patients did not do very well. One of them deceased. The tumor dissolved at least

Pg. 119

microscopically; we could see it with the naked eye, but it recurred later, a year later. And the other, there was
very, very minimal decrease in the size of the tumor. But the tumor was very big, the last one, the seventh, last two cases did not survive, although there was definite improvement in one of the two last cases.

Q: I guess that would be called an objective response in that these patients–

A: exactly, because we were six people and we all looked at images and we saw the chronological order. We checked the names of the patients on the films, and the files were obtained at different institutions from the entire country, basically where the patients were located. And we had no reason to believe that these were not the results of the treatments.

Q: Doctor, based on what you have testified to before about your background and credentials, it’s fair to say, isn’t it, that you have seen a lot of brain cancer patients?

A: yes, in fact, we see a lot of these cases.

Q: And that’s part of what you do at the hospital, is to evaluate treatments on brain cancer patients?

A: Well, different cancers, but since I am the neuroradiologist I see all brain rumors. And I see a large volume of then.

Q: Now, with regard to at least the five patients, I think

Pg. 120

you testified that five of the patients had their rumors resolved, they all–

A: Disappointed.

Q: –disappeared. Can you give us some kind of context of that? How often does that happen with any– with no treatment, just by spontaneous remission, or by whatever it is that you–

A: I’m not aware that spontaneous remission occurs; I don’t think it does. And the available treatment only rarely produce results like that. The only medication– the only treatment, which I think is the last resort, is radiation therapy. Chemotherapy has very little to offer unless there is an experimental protocol somewhere. However, conventional chemotherapy is– provides very little, nothing, basically. Radiation, there are some reports indicating that radiation treatment in children particularly could lead to resolution of the rumors, although I don’t know whether it is a permanent one or temporary. So when this happens it is very rare. And I have seen only isolated here and there where that has happened with radiation .

Q: With one case here or there–

A: Yeah.

Q: –an isolated report, you are talking about on a case by

Pg. 121

case basis?

A: Yeah. Well, radiation should give these results, if it works at all, the first two months after completion of the treatment. In these cases, all the patients had already failed radiation because they were treated months, several months after radiation was
given and had failed.

Q: What happens with these patients? Lets say they failed radiation; what happens then to the patient with brain cancer?

A: Well, it depends on the grade of the tumor. If the tumor is low grade, astrocytoma, and we are talking about primary gliomas, if it is low grade, survival for years is possible. If it is an intermediate grade, the anaplastic, the mean survival is two years, and if it is the high grade glioma the mean survival is about 12 months. That’s it; they die in 12 months, they disappear.

Q: Now– So are you saying basically for someone that’s failed radiation– It sounds like you are saying that if someone has already failed radiation, at least, that there’s not too much else–

A: nothing to offer, exactly.

Q: –and that these people are going to eventually die of their disease, barring any unforeseen event or cure?

A: Exactly.

Q: and there is nothing that any– that you could do at NCI?

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A: Nothing we can do, no; not at the present time.

Q: All right. What about these five patients that are all basically doing– how come they lived?

A: Well, it’s amazing, the fact that they are living and some of them are doing well. They are not– they are not handicapped from the side effects of any treatment, and worse than the tumor itself. So these particular individuals not only survived, but they didn’t have major side effects. So I think it is impressive and unbelievable.

Q: How many times have you ever seen this, in your experience, that someone comes with a drug like this, to have this kind of effect? How often does that happen?

A: I don’t– I have not seen it at any time with the medication that is given systematically. We have done– we have an experimental protocol at the NIH where we inject a chemotherapeutic agent through the carotid artery, the artery that goes to the brain, and we have three survivals with this technique, by providing massive amounts of chemotherapeutic drugs to the brain that harbors the tumor. And we destroy the tumor, but we destroy a large part of the brain as well, and the patients became severely handicapped , and a life that’s not worth living.

Pg. 123

And so I have three cases with this particular experimental protocol which resulted in killing the tumor, but a large part of the healthy brain as well. So overall the protocol was abandoned and is not any more in effect because of the serious side effects that we witnessed.

Q: Now, let me ask your opinion or advice. Based on what you have seen from these patients– I mean, I think the opinion actually, or the letter actually concludes that the site team concluded that there was antitumor effect from the antineoplastons. What would happen, let’s say for some reason Dr. Burzynski’s brain tumor patients can’t get the medicine any more and have to go off treatment. What’s going to happen to them, in your opinion?

A: I think these patients will die.

Pg. 124

Q: One of the patients you reviewed was F.M.; is that correct? What happened in his case?

A: The tumor was very large and very involved the hypothalamus, a very sensitive part of the brain cannot be operated, and had both cystic components and fleshy components, mass like. And the lesion disappeared . This patient did not have previous treatment, if I recall, other than– previous chemotherapy or radiation, and the tumor disappeared under our eyes. It was a low grade astrocytoma, wich is comparable with long survival. However, even those low grade astrocytomas, when we see them, they don’t go away even though they may permit the person to live for many years. In this particular patients case the tumor disappeared, and there was a small, tiny remnant left, small percentage of the original size. And there has been several years since then and the patient is well, I’m told.

Q: So at least for the patient you would not recommend that

Pg. 125

he go off the treatment, would you?

A: No.

That fascinating testimony above was from 1993. That was nineteen years ago. It sounds very impressive. Yet no one — no national health service anywhere — has adopted what is claimed to be a revolutionary change in cancer treatment. Oncologists do not clamor for it.

Why not?

Maybe because those few patients out of — how many? — were flukes and the protocol works, if at all, so rarely as to be not worth tormenting so many other patients to get a few, very few, successes?

So 7 cherry-picked patients, the data on whom was SUPPLIED BY BURZYNSKI, were reviewed for one hour each and thats the sum total of evidence from 35 years of research?

You are a berk diddums!

That fascinating testimony above was from 1993.

In a case that (1) was not about the effectiveness of the treatments, meaning that nobody needed to bother to further examine the opinions offered, and (2) left Burzynski with 10 years’ license probation, of course.

I wonder if DJT is about fifteen and just started debate class.

I doubt that many debates have been won by a monotone, verbatim delivery of 12000 words of someone else’s accounting report with no attempt to show its relevance to anything, or by delivering verbal Dagwood Sandwiches of unrelated textdumps, interlayered and stacked up high. This is more of a filibuster.

herr doktor bimler,
Sounds like you could use a good Rorschach test.

Sadly, any Rorschach test is a bad one (though I do own a copy of Alcock’s manual for practitioners). Not convinced about the efficacy of most other projective tests either.

herr doktor bimler,

You’ll note that LW did not say that was a successful strategy in any objective sense, only that it was a strategy that some new debaters believed would be successful.

@Krebiozen

“Squidymus” – love it!

I wonder if I can get on Squidymus’ ignore list… Can the regulars recommend a good strategy? Do I just have to keep making common-sense comments, or do I have to include something special?

This guy reminds me of what we call a “sponge”. Someone who soaks up information without understanding it, and then regurgitates it at will.

You’ll note that LW did not say that was a successful strategy in any objective sense, only that it was a strategy that some new debaters believed would be successful.

As far as high-school debate teams (sorry, “squads”) go, my experience is that this predilection just gets worse over time. I was convinced to try organized “forensics” for a year, and both I and my partner were entirely naive about the social order, which mainly seemed to involve buying things like the Jayhawk handbook, cutting pieces out, gluing the snippets to index cards, and reading them as fast as possible. Simply countrifying the gig and advancing positions that hadn’t already been drilled into their heads was an effective enough approach to get our motley pair to the state tournament, although the forces of inertia prevailed.

@Narad, I too was induced to try it for a year. My partner and I were pretty successful, but I was criticized by judges now and then for trying to get the other side to understand the snippets they were regurgitating, especially when, as sometimes happened, those snippets supported our position rather than their own.

I guess I didn’t learn much from the constructive criticism.

Winning debates and getting to the truth of a matter seem to me to be only tangentially related, if at all.

I did at least get a varsity letter out of the deal (I think we were really JV), although I never got a jacket to affix it to. I also discovered that the coloring of the border and letter were reversed for lowly nonathletic types.

12/16 Comments:
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All & Tu-Quackers,

Has anyone heard from those time-wasters Narad & MarkL?

who ask questions but don’t want to answer questions?
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novalox,

No. It’s Comedian Carlos Mencia!
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herr doktor bimler

Please go on Wikipedia & let them know.

They obviously didn’t get your memo re Galileo.
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Shay,

I can handle be mocked by faceless beings who ask questions but don’t want to answer questions, & can’t back up the fount of knowledge supposedly flowing forth from their alleged firing synapses.

I call them “Tu-Quackers.”
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LW,

Looks like you need to help herr doktor bimler correct Wikipedia re Galileo.
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LW,

Your supposed knowledge of SRB’s history made me think you were 15 since you could even go on the Harvard University web-site & find that from:

1997 The Dividing Line Between the Role of the FDA and the Practice of Medicine: A Historical Review and Current Analysis, Citing Burzynski.

1997 – The Criminalization of Innovation: FDA Misdirection in the Najaran and Burzynski Cases.

Why don’t you digest those if the prospect that they come from Harvard doesn’t frightens you away.
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herr doktor bimler,

dok,

Afraid of research about incarceration?

2012 – Wikipedia
4/22/12 – CBS News
7/3/2012 – CNN
10/15/2012 – Bloomberg
10/31/2012 – Aljazeera
Bureau of Justice Statistics
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Science Mom,

And you know so much about law how?

You have filed a case without a lawyer, citing Supreme Court cases like I have, and won, when?

The U.S. Constitution doesn’t give me rights, it just enumerates rights I already have.

Have you read my suggested reading for LW, above?
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Krebiozen,

I find it interesting that your name refers to an unapproved cancer treatment.

Yet here you are on a science blog where Orac tries to be the voice of the Oncologists who couldn’t “Man Up” and defend their own position, that’s what Orac’s for, I guess.

The “FACT” is you & Orac want to surmize. best guess, theorize, assume.

It’s obvious that individual’s on here will swallow anything the great Wizard of Orac says without requiring “FACTS.”

This is why Orac should stick to Medicine, because being a true “Investigative Journalist” is not Orac’s calling.

Orac also “cherry picks.

There’s a Village Idiot who has claimed that in Orac’s absence that “Trolls” have allegedly taken over the blog!

Who on here is going to call that “Tu-Quacker” out

Anyone else besides me have the COBOLS to do it?

FDR said “We have nothing to fear but fear itself.”

I see the clear MOTIVATION of someone who posts GIGO like that as being obfuscation & fear of answering questions.

It reminds me of people who believe Alen Specter’s JFK “Magic Bullet” theory.

I see that no one around here wants to ask the tough questions to those who need to answer them, unless its someone else than them.

And still DJT flails helplessly, thinking that making *lots* of accusations is somehow almost as good as making accusations backed by facts.

@Antaeus – I still want him to post in actual sentences & paragraphs. This weird format that he insists on using doesn’t relay a single coherent thought or argument – again, making Dr. B look bad that these are the type of people that step up to defend him…..

You have filed a case without a lawyer, citing Supreme Court cases like I have, and won, when?

Given that you haven’t managed to figure out a way to hawk up any details of your Darrowesque exploits, you’re not exactly impressing anyone with this moronic incantation, which comes off as lying somewhere between contesting a parking ticket and having an autographed photo of Joseph Wapner.

The U.S. Constitution doesn’t give me rights, it just enumerates rights I already have.

Thanks, Eli Stone. Try taking that one on the road. Attica! Attica! Attica!

DJT, in its usual polite and coherent manner, suggests review of The Dividing Line Between the Role of the FDA and the Practice of Medicine: A Historical Review and Current Analysis.  I actually read it in full, which I suspect DJT did not.  It is an interesting review (as of fifteen years ago) of the tension between the FDA’s mandate to protect the public against unsafe drugs and medical devices and the Practice of Medicine Exception.

The Introduction states,

Over the years, the Food and Drug Administration (“FDA”) has consistently asserted that it does not regulate the practice of medicine (the “Practice of Medicine Exception”) . This prohibition has never been specifically set forth in the statutory scheme which guides the FDA’s action. However, the Practice of Medicine Exception has been inferred from the Congressional intent expressed in the legislative history. Although the FDA purports to maintain this exception, the reality is that agency action certainly affects medical practice.

Most of the text is a discussion of the history and some proposed legislation.  The paragraphs relevant to Burzynski are these:

A recent example of the FDA’s position against the unapproved use of drugs or devices is the criminal trial of a Texas doctor which began on January 7th of this year.’54 Dr. Burzynski, a Houston physician is being criminally prosecuted for violating the FDCA by his use of an unapproved drug to treat cancer patients. The doctor invented, patented, and manufactured an “antineoplaston” treatment which he claims serves as a biochemical switch to “turn off” cancer genes and prevent cancerous cells from multiplying in the human body.’55

Burzynski has only treated six of his patients under FDA approved clinical trials and on the day his trial was to begin, approximately three hundred patients were receiving the drug.’56 The U.S. Attorney stated that Burzynski was first informed that he needed FDA approval in 1977.157 Over a two decade span, the doctor treated over three thousand patients with his drug, yet never complied with the FDA’s approval requirements.’58

The FDA finally ordered Burzynski to not distribute the drug in interstate commerce.’59 The doctor was also informed by the Texas Department of Health that use of the drug within the state was also illegal because it did not have FDA approval for use.’~ The defense states that Dr. Burzynski’s actions were to fulfill his oath as a physician, which states that doctors “do no harm,” and he “believes that to withhold (antineoplaston) is to do harm.”‘6 ‘ Interestingly, the indictment against Burzynski does not allege that the administration of the antineoplaston treatment itself has caused any harm.’62 In fact, many of Burzynski’s patients swear that his treatment has saved their lives when practitioners who provided more conventional treatment told them to prepare for death.’63 One father, testifying to a congressional committee about his son’s treatment by Burzynski stated: “Burzynski is guilty of saving lives illegally. If helping sick people live is irrelevant to enforcing rules, than the police should start pulling over ambulances and fire trucks for speeding.”‘~

If Burzynski’s drug had received approval for any type of treatment, even if completely unrelated to the treatment of cancer, he would not be being prosecuted. In either instance however, the issue of safety and efficacy would not have been determined by the FDA for the use of the treatment in cancer patients. This inconsistency, in oversight and enforcement for essentially the same action, should be reconciled.

(I have removed the footnotes which are interpolated in the middle of the text.)

We learn little new about Burzynski except that by the time he was charged he had been ignoring the law for twenty years and that, fifteen years ago, he had already “treated” a breathtaking three thousand patients.

How many clinical trials recruit three thousand patients?  If he had kept careful records of everything known about each patient, one could do data-mining to determine what factors appear to correlate with better results and what with worse.  One could really learn something from those tragic cases. One could help future patients with that knowledge.

The utter waste of the opportunity by that unmitigated swine Burzynski, as revealed by just this snippet, is sickening beyond my ability to express.

DJT in its delightfully civil manner, also recommended The Criminalization of Innovation: FDA Misdirection in the Najarian and Burzynski Cases

This student article from 1997 describes the cases of John Najarian, transplant surgeon, and of course Burzynski.

The Najarian case, if it played out as described, sounds like a nightmare of bureaucratic bumbling where the FDA first seemed to encourage the use of a new drug, then to forbid it, and to permit its manufacture and sale under some conditions, then to change the conditions, then to bring criminal charges.

The description of Burzynski’s case gives us little new information except this:  

In May of 1983, U.S. District Judge Gabrielle McDonald issued an order that permanently enjoined Burzynski and his clinic from producing and introducing into commerce the antineoplastons. The injunction was to be in place until Burzynski, 1) received an approved IND distinction from the FDA under 21 U.S.C. §355; or 2) received written statement from the FDA that the product did not qualify as a “new drug.” Burzynski met neither of these requirements and continued to prescribe and administer the drug to his patients for treatment of many different diseases, including AIDS, Parkinson’s, and numerous forms of cancer.[33]

So Burzynski openly defied both the FDA’s regulations and a federal court order specifically directed at him for fourteen years before the FDA finally brought charges against him. Moreover, he “treated” patients for AIDS and Parkinson’s with his antineoplastons.

DJT operates under the delusion that Burzynski’s troubles with the FDA somehow exonerate him from accusations of battening on the blood of desperate patients. If the FDA had patted him on the head and said “Go to it”, the fact remains that he hasn’t proved that his nostrums work and that they don’t do more harm than good. 

Squidymus,
Run out of spamming material? Your insistence that Galileo discovered that the world is round and your defence of your statement that, “It’s great that the USA is #1 in incarnation of individuals in prisons” is hilarious, thanks for the laugh. I’m also enjoying your random capitalizations, weird use of quotation marks and extraneous apostrophes, which add a certain je ne sais pas to your comments.

You have filed a case without a lawyer, citing Supreme Court cases like I have, and won, when?

You have bragged about this here before, using a different name, haven’t you? Didn’t we establish that you contested a parking fine or something equally trivial? (I see Narad has suggested something similar.)

I find it interesting that your name refers to an unapproved cancer treatment.

My choice of pseudonym is far more significant and sinister than you could even imagine (or I may just have a perverse sense of humor).

Yet here you are on a science blog where Orac tries to be the voice of the Oncologists who couldn’t “Man Up” and defend their own position, that’s what Orac’s for, I guess.

You have quite a knack for the curious non sequitur. You use a biblical name, the name of a man Richard Dawkins described as the patron saint of skeptics, yet here you are on a science blog, defending pseudoscience. Very interesting. Anyway, conventional oncologists don’t generally have to defend their position since conventional cancer treatment is supported by plenty of evidence from clinical trials. It’s doctors without any oncology training who make unsupported claims and charge vast sums of money to treat cancer without the evidence of clinical trials to back them who should be defending themselves. Vulnerable cancer patients and their parents deserve protection from predatory scam artists, don’t they?

The “FACT” is you & Orac want to surmize. best guess, theorize, assume.

In the absence of any decent evidence published by Burzynski, that’s all we, you, his unfortunate patients and indeed Burzynski himself can do. That’s the problem. However, what facts we do have are not consistent with Burzynski’s claims. You apparently assume that anything a salesman and his publicist tell you about his product is true. Are you interested in acquiring a lovely historic bridge here in London by any chance?

It’s obvious that individual’s on here will swallow anything the great Wizard of Orac says without requiring “FACTS.”

What specifically has Orac said that isn’t factually true? Over the years I have often checked what Orac says and I have found him to be very reliable indeed.

This is why Orac should stick to Medicine,

Another curious non sequitur.

because being a true “Investigative Journalist” is not Orac’s calling.

Where does Orac claim he is an investigative journalist, sorry an “Investigative Journalist”?

Orac also “cherry picks.

Example?

There’s a Village Idiot who has claimed that in Orac’s absence that “Trolls” have allegedly taken over the blog!

Just the one troll, sorry “Troll”, I’d say. Posting vast amounts of mostly irrelevant verbiage to multiple threads on a blog is considered trolling, and is annoying and rude besides. You might try posting a small apposite passage and linking to the source.

Who on here is going to call that “Tu-Quacker” out
Anyone else besides me have the COBOLS to do it?
FDR said “We have nothing to fear but fear itself.”
I see the clear MOTIVATION of someone who posts GIGO like that as being obfuscation & fear of answering questions.
It reminds me of people who believe Alen Specter’s JFK “Magic Bullet” theory.

Is there any purpose to this blathering? Do you even understand what tu quoque means?

I see that no one around here wants to ask the tough questions to those who need to answer them, unless its someone else than them.

Maybe you could resubmit that sentence in FORTRAN as it appears to be COBOLlocks. The person who needs to answer the tough questions is Burzynski. He is the one using clinical trials as a loophole to treat patients with an unapproved drug and charging then large amounts of money.

Which questions have you asked that have remained unanswered anyway? It is quite possible they may have been missed in amongst the large amounts of incoherent verbiage you have dumped here. Why not put them in a clear, concise comment that people can understand and might even have time to read?

DJT’s droppings really aren’t doing Burzynski a lot of good. Putting together the numbers of patients Burzynski had “treated” by 1997, with the testimony of Dr. Patronas, the radiologist, in 1993, I reach this conclusion:

Between 1977 and 1997, Burzynski “treated” some three thousand patients, or about 150 per year. Thus we can estimate that between 1977 and 1993, he “treated” 2,400 patients. Out of those 2,400, those described by Dr. Patronas are presumably his seven best cases. And one died and another did not respond. So the results Burzynski presented appear to indicate that five out of 2,400 — a little over 0.2% — went into remission. That’s ever so impressive.

Dr. Patronas, the radiologist, said he was not aware that these tumors ever underwent spontaneous remission. But would he know if the rate were as low as, say 0.2%?

@Krebiozen: “Why not put them in a clear, concise comment that people can understand and might even have time to read?”

I don’t think DJT is capable of clear, concise thought — or even rational thought. Note that it suggests that herr doktor bimler and I should correct Wikipedia on the topic of Galileo — which is outright ludicrous; of course Wikipedia does not claim that Galileo proved the Earth was round or was persecuted for saying so.

@HDB

Bad luck for Will.

LOL 🙂

.. I’m getting close to thinking that Squidymus is a Poe. Surely this is just getting too ridiculous?

By the way, DJT, just FYI: Galileo was born in 1564. The Magellan expedition returned from circumnavigating the globe in 1522. That is 42 years before Galileo was born. It would have been rather trivial for Galileo to prove that the Earth was round and the one could circumnavigate it, and rather ludicrous for the Church to persecute him for saying so.

@flip: “I’m getting close to thinking that Squidymus is a Poe.”

I think it’s a barely literate fifteen-year-old that thinks it’s showing off how good it is with Google.

12/16 Comments:
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LW,

Simply AMAZING, LW!!!

How were you able to discern?:

____” That fascinating testimony above was from 1993.”

Did you perhaps pick that up from the 1st page where I posted?:

____”May 24, 1993″. 😮

“That was nineteen years ago. ”

_____Did you have to remove your “JACKA$$ slippers” from off your feet to count this high?: 🙂

“Oncologists do not clamor for it?”

_____FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!

How are they going to make money off of this?

Do they think they will get kick-backs, free vacations to the Bahamas or Aruba, free golfing excursions, & other special considerations for curing people with cancer?

_____”Maybe because those few patients…”

Uhmmm … Page 117?

_____”A : we reviewed the material of seven cases.”

Have you been living in a cave in Afghanistan or Pakistan, a la Osoma Bin Laden?

Thousands of patients.

You are indeed a “Conspiracy Theorist.”

See below.
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All & Tu-Quackers,

Has anyone heard from those wasters of time, MarkL & Narad?

Because I have the feeling that if we did, they would be espousing some “Conspiracy Theory” like:

_____”7 cherry-picked patients.”

(And where have you been when Orac “Cherry Picks?”)

“A: Yes, it was when Michael Hawkins from NCI asked me to join a group of other physicians and scientist and come to Houston on a site visit to Dr. Burzynski’s Institute in order to assess the BEST CASE SCENARIO that he had to present us of his patients who were treated with antineoplastons.” (pg. 116)

That was requested by NCI:

_____”the data on whom was SUPPLIED BY BURZYNSKI.”

NO SH*T SHERLOCK??? 😉

_____”A: Yes, … and we reviewed the material that was given to us.” (pg. 116)

_____”We checked the names of the patients on the films, and the FILES WERE OBTAINED AT DIFFERENT INSTITUTIONS CROM THE ENTIRE COUNTRY, basically where the patients were located.” (pg. 119)

“In a case that (1) was not about the EFFECTIVENESS of the treatments, meaning that nobody needed to bother to further examine the opinions offered…”

_____”A: So that was the first time when I was aware that there was an anticancer agent. And I was called as an expert in assessing the images to evaluate, together with the rest, the other five members of that team, to evaluate the EFFECTIVENESS of his treatment.” (pg. 116)

Would you please repeat that last part, because I think some might have missed it considering where their heads are located? 🙂

_____”to evaluate the EFFECTIVENESS of his treatment.” (pg. 116)

What kind of JackBerk “Conspiracy Theorists” would question THAT???

_____” the forces of inertia prevailed.”

Why am I NOT surprised?

_____”I did at least get a varsity letter out of the deal (I think we were really JV), although I never got a jacket to affix it to. I also discovered that the coloring of the border and letter were reversed for lowly nonathletic types.

Was there a Yellow Stripe down the middle?

See below.
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herr doktor bimler,

“with no attempt to show its relevance to anything.”

_____”THE TUMOR DISSOLVED” (pg. 118)

_____”But THE TUMOR WAS VERY BIG the last one, the seventh, last two cases did not survive, although THERE WAS DEFINITE IMPROVEMENT in one of the two last cases.” (pg. 119)

_____”you testified that five of the patients had their TUMORS RESOLVED.” (pg. 120)

_____”DISAPPEARED.” (pg. 120)

“Q: All right. What about these five patients that are all basically doing– how come they lived?” (pg. 122)

_____”Q: All right. What about these five patients that are all basically doing– how come they lived? (pg. 122)

A: Well, IT’s AMAZING, the fact that they are living and some of them are doing well. They are not– they are not handicapped from the side effects of any treatment, and worse than the tumor itself. So these particular individuals not only survived, but they didn’t have major side effects. So I think it is IMPRESSIVE and unbelievable.” (pg. 122)

_____”The TUMOR WAS VERY LARGE AND VERY INVOLVED the hypothalamus, a very sensitive part of the brain cannot be operated, and had both cystic components and fleshy components, mass like. AND THE LESION DISAPPEARED.” (pg. 123)

_____”In this particular patients case the tumor disappeared, and there was a small, tiny remnant left, small percentage of the original size. And there has been several years since then and the patient is well.” (pg. 123)

“Not convinced about the efficacy of most other projective tests either”

_____Have you considered an ENEMA?

_____I’ve heard it’ll knock the BULLSH*T right out of you!!! 🙂
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Mephistopheles O’Brien,

Says the Dungeons and Dragons character in their “Computer-Generated Fantasy World.” 🙂
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flip,

” Do I just have to keep making common-sense comments, or do I have to include something special?”

_____Where have you offered ANY common-sense comments?
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h d b

Then excretes it all. Try Cheese!
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LW,

_____”I guess I didn’t learn much from the constructive criticism.”

Trust me. It shows!!!
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Krebiozen,

Hence emphasis on “Master” “Baters.”
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Politicalguineapig,

You are mistaken.

I wasn’t calling for any “tics” to come “here.”

@DJT:”“A: Yes, it was when Michael Hawkins from NCI asked me to join a group of other physicians and scientist and come to Houston on a site visit to Dr. Burzynski’s Institute in order to assess the BEST CASE SCENARIO that he had to present us of his patients who were treated with antineoplastons.” (pg. 116)”

Yep, cherry-picked, best cases out of something like 2,400 patients, and he still couldn’t come up with seven *survivors*.

I don’t think DJT can reason at all.

@Didymus Judas Thomas,

Your last message – a string of juvenile abusive comments – was entirely uncalled for.

In particular, I have no idea what your comment Says the Dungeons and Dragons character in their “Computer-Generated Fantasy World.” refers to or is supposed to mean. I suppose you’re trying to taunt me in some way; I cannot find anything I’ve said that this would appear to relate to.

I find your ability to be abusive while agreeing to the facts remarkable.

@Mephistopheles O’Brien: I don’t think we’re dealing with an adult. Its abuse is juvenile because *it* is a juvenile.

@Didymus Judas Thomas,
LW has been remarkably patient in trying to explain your own references to you, so you might try actually reading what LW tells you for comprehension. You might learn which arguments you make are worthwhile, which are contradicted by fact, and which are logically inconsistent.

Krebiozen has been extremely patient and he is much more knowledgeable than I am. I was very interested in his explanation of the medical reports. It was most clear and informative.

JGC, just because you don’t want to do the research, doesn’t mean it’s not been done. Have you actually reviewed at least 1 of his Phase I or II Clinical Trials Publications I’ve posted the references too on here in a prior post“YOU WANT ANSWERS (Part 1)?

You want answers part 1 doesn’t offer references to published Phase I or Phase II clinical trial results: instead the citations are to review articles, abstracts from poster sessions, etc.

JGC, where has the test results not been published?

Burzynski hasn’t published the results of the trials he’s supposedly been running for the last 2 decades anywhere that I can determine.

DJT, let me lake this as easy as possible for you: where can I find published reprot of the Phase II clinical study you believe argues most strongly for the safety and efficacy of antineoplastons as a treatment for advanced stage cancer?

I’m asking for just one citation of just one clinical trial report of a Phase II clinical antineoplaston trial completed by Burzynski sometime in the past 20 years. He’s initiated over 60–surely one of them has yielded usuable results?

If diddums can’t perhaps find that information, perhaps he can find published clinical trials results for the efficacy of antineoplastons for the treatment of HIV or Parkinson’s, the previous two diseases the brave maverick was 100% sure he was able to cure with “his invention”.

Antineoplastons, the medicine in search of a disease.

Don’t miss DJT’s latest droppings over on the “Stanislaw Burzynski: “Personalized gene-targeted cancer therapy” for dummies” post. Here’s how to compute the survival rate if five survive out of seven: 

If you had 7 patients you could call that: 70%.
5 successful patients would then be: 50%
Change 70% to: 100% (by adding 30%)
Change 50% to: 80% (by adding 30%)
80% minus 100% = 20%
So 20 deaths out of 100 = 80% survival rate.

This may be better than “Galileo was persecuted for saying the Earth was round.”

LW,

So the results Burzynski presented appear to indicate that five out of 2,400 — a little over 0.2% — went into remission.

That’s a good point. The other thing to bear in mind is that these patients had all had conventional treatment previously. Some people are late responders to chemotherapy and radiotherapy, sometimes not showing clear signs of improvement until 12 weeks after treatment.

I see that Dr. Patronas wrote:

I’m not aware that spontaneous remission occurs; I don’t think it does.

He was mistaken. This review of the literature found over 6,000 cases, 4 of them brain tumor cases. It reports that about 20 cases of spontaneous remission are reported every year, but many more undoubtedly go unreported. A brief review of PubMed and Google Scholar comes up with several case studies of spontaneous regression and remission of gliomas and astrocytomas. It’s rare but by no means unknown.

The bottom line is that only Phase 3 clinical trials can tell us if Burzynski’s treatment really works.

@LW

Re: Diddum’s mathematical expertise

Isn’t that the most spectacular self-destruct you have seen here?

I wonder what his next gambit will be (if, indeed, there is one)? I predict a new pseudo-identity at least!

@LW

I think it’s a barely literate fifteen-year-old that thinks it’s showing off how good it is with Google.

Either that or someone who thinks that reading a few books is the same as being educated in medicine.

He seems fixated on conspiracy theorists without realising what the F one looks like.

@Mark L

If diddums can’t perhaps find that information, perhaps he can find published clinical trials results for the efficacy of antineoplastons for the treatment of HIV or Parkinson’s, the previous two diseases the brave maverick was 100% sure he was able to cure with “his invention”.

Antineoplastons, the medicine in search of a disease.

Or even supplying evidence that it works as an anti-aging product.

@DJT

Do I just have to keep making common-sense comments, or do I have to include something special?”

_____Where have you offered ANY common-sense comments?

That answers that question. Evidently I have to include something super special.

Squidymus, you thundering nincompoop, at Burzyinski, we realize how to strategize cyber-holistically. We apply the proverb “You cannot have your cake and eat it too” not only to our raw bandwidth management but our aptitude to grow. Your budget for incubating should be at least twice your budget for disintermediating. The capacity to innovate virally leads to the aptitude to transition compellingly. Quick: do you have a e-business game plan for monitoring new cross-media, customer-defined data hygiene reports? We invariably revolutionize C2C2B reporting. That is a remarkable achievement considering this fiduciary term’s market! The metrics for sexy distributed data hygiene are more well-understood if they are not best-of-breed, C2C2C. What do we streamline? Anything and everything, regardless of semidarkness! We will regenerate our capacity to productize without reducing our power to harness. Your budget for expediting should be at least one-tenth of your budget for reinventing. We often engineer killer returns-on-investment. That is a remarkable achievement considering this year’s cycle!

Burzyinski practically invented the term “TQM”. The metrics for data hygiene are more well-understood if they are not cross-media. What does the industry jargon “bleeding-edge” really mean? Think nano-ubiquitous. Is it more important for something to be 60/60/24/7/365 or to be client-focused? The metrics for metrics are more well-understood if they are not mission-critical. Do you have a game plan to become virally-distributed? Think macro-dynamic. What does the commonly-accepted term “process management” really mean? Our technology takes the best features of Apache and Python. The process management management factor can be summed up in one word: clicks-and-mortar.

Great scientists throughout history: Copernicus, etc, agree on the principle of astro-nihilistic reactivity is the fundamental principle behind all religions. Giordano Bruno knew everything about resonation astrochemistry; that is why the Illuminati annihilated him. the cosmic quasi-time constant is 8.71. only from the principle of vibro-temporal instability can one calculate the MISSING MASS OF THE UNIVERSE. End unemployment, terrorism, poverty, etc — adopt a personal philosophy based on harmonic field optics now!.

Burzyinski has revamped the abstraction of obfuscation. We frequently brand mission-critical portals. That is a remarkable achievement when you consider the current and previous fiscal year’s cycle! The ability to transform micro-robustly leads to the power to generate robustly. Without preplanned networks, angel investors are forced to become global. We think that most cross-media web applications use far too much FOAF, and not enough IIS. The M&A factor is next-generation. What does it really mean to actualize “seamlessly”? We pride ourselves not only on our feature set, but our user-proof administration and user-proof configuration. We will engineer the ability of interfaces to evolve. We apply the proverb “Never look a gift horse in the mouth” not only to our TQC but our ability to transition.

12/17 Comments:
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Antaeus Feldspar,

And lucky for me you didn’t request any facts, which means you met be OK with it since you have nothing to say!
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All & the TU-Quackers,

Has anybody hears a peep out of Little Lawrence?

I had a dream last night that in his little head he got some irrational psychotic idea that I’m on here to defend anyone’s position.

And you know what happens when yes off his meds – a 3 hour tour, a 3 hour tour…

How about that Jacka$$ braying in the wind? Narad Is he saying stupid stuff like usual where he thinks I would give up my legal history with a psychotic running around loose here?

He’s probably foaming at the mouth like a rapid dog about now because he doesn’t have some reading to stimulate his soupy brain, like “Federal Jurisdiction Within The States,” published under President Dwight D. Eisenhower’s Administration.

That book can put you right to sleep!
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LW,

Hear Hear!!!

What a nice little diatribe.

See, what you didn’t learn from that is that back in the mid-to-late 1950’s, under President Dwight D. Eisenhower, a 2-Part Federal study was done titled “Federal Jurisdiction Within The Several Stares,” which listed where the Federal Gub-ment had Jurisdiction in the Srates, &!it cited Ciurt Cases.

Well, SRB’s Lawyee was intelligent enough to know about Jurisdiction, which is why SRB was Acquited.

USA v. Burzynski H-95-290 (1997) Acquittal:
http://collinsoneal.net/notable-cases/criminal-defense

This is because the FDA is a Federal Agency & they didn’t have Jurisdiction over what SRB was doing, because he was not transporting Antineoplastons across State lines (Interstate Commerce), he was only under the Jurisdiction of the State of Texas.

This is why it’s important to know the Law since the Federal Gub-ment is only too happy to go after people who do not know the Law & their Rights.

And let’s not forget SRB’s history & how the FDA came & raided his business office & tookover 100,000 documents; including patient files, which makes it hard to do “Clinical Trials” or treat your patients without their medical records.

As the saying goes: “And that’s the rest of the story.”
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LW,

And as LW eloquently displays with his 1983 case is that the FDA had no Jurisdiction in the State of Texas. The State of Texas has Jurisdiction over its own Territory except where it has ceded property to the Federal Gub-ment or a Federal Law specifically applies.

July 7, 1983 – FDA Associate Commissioner Robert Wetherell Jr. writes to US Representative Robert W. Davis that Judge McDonald’s injunction “does not prohibit the distribution of antineoplastons within the State of Texas.”

This is a perfect example why you would not want to hire LW to represent you in a Court of Law, & why LW shouldn’t represent himself!
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KreBLOGizen,

Please cite the specific date & post re Galileo because you are wrong YET AFAGAIN!

I never posted that:

_____”Your insistence that Galileo discovered that the world is round…”

How would you like your CROW COOKED?

_____”defence of your statement that, “It’s great that the USA is #1 in incarnation of individuals in prisons” is hilarious, thanks for the laugh.”

http://www.prb.org/Articles/2012/us-incarceration.aspx

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-15/u-s-jails-more-people-than-any-other-country-chart-of-the-day.html

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/03/opinion/bloom-prison-spending/index.html

WRONG AGAIN KreBLOGizenica!!

This is exactly WHY you need to “FACT-CHECK” your posts!

How would you like your DOUBLE PORTION of CROW COOKED??

_____”You have bragged about this here before, using a different name, haven’t you?”

WRONG YET AGAIN KreBLOGidenize!!!

How would you like your THIRD HELPING of CROW????

_____”… here you are on a science blog, defending pseudoscience”

WRONG to the DOUBLE ONG YET AGAIN!!!!

As I have clearly posted before, I attack both sides!

HOW’D YA LIKE YER 4th SERVING OF CROW COOKED???????

_____”In the absence of any decent evidence published by Burzynski, that’s all we, you, his unfortunate patients and indeed Burzynski himself can do. That’s the problem. However, what facts we do have are not consistent with Burzynski’s claims. You apparently assume that anything a salesman and his publicist tell you about his product is true. Are you interested in acquiring a lovely historic bridge here in London by any chance?”

And yet after all that goat cheese, you provide not 1 cite to support your braying in the wind!!!!!!!

How ’bout this one I replied to yesterday :

MI Dawn

December 17, 2012
Well, well, well. A radiologist talking about chemotherapy. Somehow, I suspect he’s a little out of his realm of experience. Hint to DJT: it’s always much more reliable for someone to talk about their field of experience – i.e. radiology – than for them to wander off and discuss chemotherapy.
And did you happen to notice this testimony is from 1993???? Almost 20 years ago, when the NIH thought there might be something in Burzynski’s protocol. But here we are, 20 years later, and the still hasn’t proven it works.
Next time, try using a copy/pasta that is a *wee* bit more current, OK?

Didymus Judas Thomas

In the Realm of I question YOUR GOOD FAITH AND MOTIVATION
December 17, 2012
MI Dawn,
If you had actually read the above you would know that there were 6 individuals as part of the team.
Ignorance is NOT an excuse for NOT knowing the Law, and neither is it an excuse for not knowing:
2004
Managing social conflict in complementary and alternative medicine research: the case of antineoplastons.
Authors
Mitchell R Hammer and Wayne B Jonas
Integr Cancer Ther 3(1):59-65 (2004), PMID .15035877
Journal
Integr Cancer Ther. 2004 Mar;3(1):59-65.
Affiliation
International Peace and Conflict Resolution Program, School of International Service, American University, Washington, DC, USA.
Abstract
From December 1991 to December 1995, the National Cancer Institute (NCI) initiated phase II clinical trials of A10 and AS2-1 (antineoplastons) infusions in patients with diagnosed primary malignant brain tumors.
Four years and more than a million dollars later, these studies were stopped before it was possible to determine the effectiveness of antineoplastons.
In an effort to determine why this study failed to be completed.
The intent was to understand the social dynamics surrounding this failed study and to develop a method for managing and possibly preventing such failures in the future.
This article summarizes the findings from this case study.
PMID .15035877 [PubMed – indexed for MEDLINE]
HighWire Press
http://assets0.pubget.com/paper/15035877/Managing_social_conflict_in_complementary_and_alternative_medicine_research__the_case_of_antineoplastons

WROOOOOONNNNGGGGG YET ONCE MORE!!!!!!!!

I SURE HOPE YOU LIKE LOTSA CROW!!!!!!!!

Didymus Judas Thomas

Up in a Tree Looking around for some Black Crows
December 11, 2012
12/9 Comments:
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Denice Walter, thank you for your erudite observations, but nowhere did I offer an opinion, just “FACTS.”
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Now, if you want an OPINION, in my OPINION the most important “FACT” is that:
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“[n]one of the oncologists who originally diagnosed each patient in the film would agree to go on-camera, or submit a written statement.”
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What was Orac’s MOTIVATION to NOT post this in the blog post?
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After all, in Orac’s 11/29 blog it leads the reader to believe that the goal was to be:
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“reviewing Burzynski The Movie and bringing what attention I can to it.”
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Let’s analyze Orac’s post since it contains a link by selecting “overall just a plain bad movie,” to Orac’s 11/29 blog.
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Here, the reader learns that Orac prefers to:
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“…concentrate on science much more than moviemaking…”
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Our good Friend flip flippantly flouts his “Conspiracy Theory” that it is my intent to DEFEND SRB!
Whilst I posit that flip is flip-flopping & maybe doesn’t understand the grand idea of DEFENDING the TRUTH.
As Jack Nicholson said in the 1992 movie “A Few Good Men,” “You Can’t Handle the Truth.”
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I can sympathize with flip since maybe Jesse Ventura’s “63 Documents the Government Doesn’t Want You to Read” has whipped flip into a furious curious frenzy!!
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Orac assures the reader.
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“I might even look into a couple of Burzynski’s studies that I’ve read and found to be–well–lacking, to put it kindly.”
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To put it kindly, what is Orac’s “Review,” well-lacking?
(Using Orac’s own words.)
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Is it Orac who “certainly deserves a heapin’ helpin’ of not-so-Respectful Insolence, but, oddly enough, hasn’t gotten it. One might even say, he’s been Insolenopenic, if you know what I mean.”
(Using Orac’s own words.)
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Of course, I can fix that.
(Using Orac’s own words.)
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I wonder if Galileo ever let FACTS get in the way of SCIENCE? (Or Orac?)
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We have to give Orac some credit for at least providing a link to the TruthMovies interview with Merola, (by selecting “claims the movie was his idea”) after Orac does a fine job of kicking him in the mud underthe proverbial Bus.
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Orac doesn’t seem to want to believe him, but maybe Orac is a “Conspiracy Theorist” akin to our Friend flipper.
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Orac advised readers that:
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“[t]he documentary was awful, …and overall just a plain bad movie.”
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Obviously, some people thought otherwise based on the Awards the Documentary.has won & a number of “reviews” of the Documentary.
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Kevin Thomas of the Los Angeles Times “reviewed” the Documentary 6/17/2010. Yet his review is not on the LATimes on-line archive, though articles done the same day are.
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Conspiracy Theory?
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Orac calls Merola a “Propogandist,” “He’s a hack,” & “a shill.”
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Orac, please tell us how you really feel !!!
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For someone who claimed above:
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“…concentrate on science much more than moviemaking…,”
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Orac sure opines a lot about the “moviemaking.”
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By the time I got through reading Orac’s “Review,” I was drained.
(to use Orac’s own words.)
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Orac even cites “Quackwatch;” which has an interesting “Legal History,” but lets not get side-tracked by that.
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Orac states to the reader:
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“In the movie, little snippets of these reports, key parts of the text highlighted in yellow, are rapidly flashed onscreen, after which they disappear…”
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I have 1 word for you, Orac. “PAUSE.”
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There’s a “Pause” function you can use; just as you would when viewing Big Pharma adds on TV with their tiny legal medical warnings re their drugs & all their side-effects.
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Orac mentions the “Conspiracy Theory” soup of the “NCI,” “Texas Medical Board,” FDA,” & “Big Pharma,” but lets not get sidetracked by that subject-matter either.
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Orac whines & whines & whines about the “moviemaking,” instead of the “Science.”
(To use Orac’s own words.)
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Lets look at the “FACTS,” shall we?
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Instead of just linking to an Article about Merola, lets actually “review” what HE said.
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5/26/2010 in Yes! Weekly.
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“I just became obsessed with the story,…and the more time I spent with Burzynski, his patients and his story, the more obsessed and excited I became.”
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“I haven’t had a single audience member approach me after a screening and criticize or question the validity of the information in the film.”
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“There is nothing in the film that is ‘assumed,’ ‘theoretical’ or not backed by the highest of documentation and forensic evidence.”
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“I have trouble seeing what, if anything, the FDA can possibly say about the film to discredit it.”
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“The only thing perhaps they can do is discredit me — which is usually what happens to directors like me. It’s going to be interesting to see what happens. I am prepared for anything.”
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In the interest of disclosure & transparency, I contacted Merola re his comments.
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6/3/10 in TrustMovies;
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I’m not really sure how to respond to that one. I made a living in advertising, never really enjoyed it. I sort of got stuck in it, while always wanting to be in TV & Film. This is obviously an attack on my character, while ignoring the subject matter.
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(Re the 6/1/10 Village Voice “hack” “Yellow Journalism” piece – My OPINION.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yellow_journalism&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism
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As I stated in my press kit, I have always been interested in documentaries that delve into hard truths, I’m a huge fan of “The Cove,” “Food Inc,” “Why We Fight,” “No End In Sight,” and so on.
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Orac – “I have to wonder whether Dr. Burzynski just hired Merola to make an infomercial.”
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Orac, there’s your answer.
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I had originally included many of the opposition in the film, but I cut them for the final running time.
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For instance, Dr. Keith Black, a famous neurosurgeon in LA was on Larry King last fall sitting right next to Burzynski and waved around those invalid NCI trials as “proof” the treatment doesn’t work.
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i had planned on calling him out on it.
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Second Dr. Black also claimed that the brain tumor patient he sent to Burzynski died shortly after.
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Well, the reality is, Jodi Fenton, who is the first patient in my film consulted with Dr. Black before going to Burzynski.
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Dr. Black told her he was a fraud and a quack.
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30 days later – Jodi was cured of her brain tumor.
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Dr. Black fails to acknowledge this.
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As Jodi said in the film
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he just wrote it off”.
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I did have the film packed with “opposition”, but between running time and meeting the goals I felt I had to meet plus just looking at how absurd the “opposition” is, I decided to cut it.
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Again, anyone can spend hours reading the opposition.
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However, I also think that I do show some opposition in the film.
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Orac makes various statements re Antineoplastons:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
“as a promising new treatment that can do much better than existing therapies with much less toxicity, even though there’s no evidence that it can.”
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“unproven therapy”
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“The short version of the story behind antineoplastons is that there is no good basic science or clinical evidence to suggest that antineoplastons have any significant activity against cancer.”
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“When other researchers do a trial with his neoplastons, the results aren’t nearly as promising; in fact, the results are pretty much always negative, and significant adverse reactions are observed.”
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Orac -[NOTE: The Documentary Channel has apparently asserted a copyright claim and forced YouTube to take the video down
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I found at least 7 YouBoobTube links.
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Let’s NOT let “SCIENCE” get in the way of “FACTS.”
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1. Wikipedia – Mayo Clinic study found no benefit.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism
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As I stated in my press kit, I have always been interested in documentaries that delve into hard truths, I’m a huge fan of “The Cove,” “Food Inc,” “Why We Fight,” “No End In Sight,” and so on.
**********************************************************************
Orac – “I have to wonder whether Dr. Burzynski just hired Merola to make an infomercial.”
**********************************************************************
Orac, there’s your answer.
———————————————————-
I had originally included many of the opposition in the film, but I cut them for the final running time.
———————————————————-
For instance, Dr. Keith Black, a famous neurosurgeon in LA was on Larry King last fall sitting right next to Burzynski and waved around those invalid NCI trials as “proof” the treatment doesn’t work.
———————————————————-
i had planned on calling him out on it.
———————————————————-
Second Dr. Black also claimed that the brain tumor patient he sent to Burzynski died shortly after.
———————————————————-
Well, the reality is, Jodi Fenton, who is the first patient in my film consulted with Dr. Black before going to Burzynski.
———————————————————-
Dr. Black told her he was a fraud and a quack.
———————————————————-
30 days later – Jodi was cured of her brain tumor.
———————————————————-
Dr. Black fails to acknowledge this.
———————————————————-
As Jodi said in the film
———————————————————-
he just wrote it off”.
———————————————————-
I did have the film packed with “opposition”, but between running time and meeting the goals I felt I had to meet plus just looking at how absurd the “opposition” is, I decided to cut it.
———————————————————-
Again, anyone can spend hours reading the opposition.
———————————————————-
However, I also think that I do show some opposition in the film.
__________________________________________
Orac makes various statements re Antineoplastons:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
“as a promising new treatment that can do much better than existing therapies with much less toxicity, even though there’s no evidence that it can.”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
“unproven therapy”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
“The short version of the story behind antineoplastons is that there is no good basic science or clinical evidence to suggest that antineoplastons have any significant activity against cancer.”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
“When other researchers do a trial with his neoplastons, the results aren’t nearly as promising; in fact, the results are pretty much always negative, and significant adverse reactions are observed.”
———————————————————-
Orac -[NOTE: The Documentary Channel has apparently asserted a copyright claim and forced YouTube to take the video down
———————————————————-
I found at least 7 YouBoobTube links.
__________________________________________
Let’s NOT let “SCIENCE” get in the way of “FACTS.”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1. Wikipedia – Mayo Clinic study found no benefit.
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That was not what the study concluded.
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2/1999
“CONCLUSION: Although we could not confirm any tumor regression in patients in this study, the small sample size precludes definitive conclusions about treatment efficacy.”
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2. 1/1/1986 – SR Burzynski
Drugs Exp Clin Res, January 1, 1986; 12 Suppl 1: 1-9.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Historical medicinal use of urine & urine extracts known for centuries in ancient times.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
1897 Research initiated by Polish researcher.
1937 1st modern study of certain substances in urine.
1967 Research began when significant differences noted in cancer patients compared to control group.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Research programme established for identification of antineoplastic from urine.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Antineoplastons found to be completely different from certain derivatives isolated from urine by other authors.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Research of urine led to Antineoplaston A1, A2, A3, A4 & A5, which possessed high anticancer activity & low toxicity.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
1st active component named A10.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
2 Synthetic derivatives of A10 named AS2-1 & AS2-5.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
All antineoplaston formulations submitted for Phase I clinical studies in advanced cancer patients.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Treatment free from significant side-effects & resulted in objective response in # of advanced cancer cases.
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3. 1/1987- MC Liau, M Szopa, B Burzynski, & SR Burzynski.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Drugs Exp Clin Res, Jan 1987; 13 Suppl 1: 71-6. PMID: .3569019
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Synthetic Antineoplaston A10 shown to produce promising clinical results, similar to those obtained with antineoplastons derived from urine.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
A10 capable of reducing excessive excretions often associated with cancer patients, boosting levels of antineoplaston.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Therapeutic partially attributable to antineoplastons, the level of which A10 can help to raise.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Patient must have certain reserve of antineoplastons to benefit from therapy with A10.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Patients who responded favourably to treatment with A10 invariably showed an increase of certain levels & decrease of certain urinary excretions.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Results suggest body, under normal circumstances, is protected by antineoplastons against cancer.
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4. 1/1/1994 – M Juszkiewicz, A Chodkowska, SR Burzynski, M Feldo, B Majewska, and Z Kleinrok
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Drugs Exp Clin Res, Jan 1994; 20(4): 161-7. PMID: .7813388
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Influence of A5 on certain structures.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Antineoplastons naturally occurring…agents.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Exist in blood, tissues & urine.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
In clinical trials in advanced cancer, in addition to anticancer activity it was observed that patients suffering from both cancer & Parkinson’s disease exhibited marked improvement in parkinsonian… when treated with A5.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Present study designed to analyse the influence of A5 on certain structures.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Mice & rats given A5 intraperitoneally at 3 different dosage levels.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Experiments demonstrated A5 stimulates certain receptors.
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5. 11/1997 – Authors: H Tsuda, M Sata, H Saitsu, K Yamana, H Hara, S Yamada, T Kumabe
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Affiliations: KURUME UNIV,SCH MED,DEPT SURG,
KURUME UNIV,SCH MED,DEPT INTERNAL MED. KURUME UNIV,SCH MED,DEPT RADIOL,
KURUME,FUKUOKA 830,JAPAN.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Oncology reports, November 1997, Volume 4 Number 6
Pages: 1213-1216
.….…………………………………………………………………………
AS2-1 exhibits certain growth inhibition of human…carcinoma cells in vitro & showed minimum adverse effects in phase I clinical trial.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Reviewed 2 clinical cases of liver cancer in whom we believe A2-1 was useful as maintenance therapy after TAE & MCN.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
2 patients continued to be in good condition for more than 2 years without limitation of normal activities.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
AS2-1 may be effective & useful as maintenance agent…in patients with liver cancer.
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6. 5 – 6/1998 – Authors: H Tsuda, M Sata, T Kumabe, H Hara, N Eriguchi, Y Sugita, H Nagamatsu
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Affiliations: Department of Anesthesiology, Kurume University, School of Medicine, 67 Asahimachi, Kurumeshi, Fukuokaken, 830, Japan.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Oncology Reports, May-Jun 1998, Volume 5 Number 3
Pages: 597.- 1197
.….…………………………………………………………………………
A10 & AS2-1 exhibit growth inhibition of cancer cells.
.….…………………………………………………………………………
Observed antitumor responses within 2-3 weeks of combination treatment of…therapy & A10 & AS2-1 in phase I clinical study conducted in Kurume University Hospital.

Well, that didn’t do it….

Maybe I need to post a math equation… That worked on the other thread…

@flip

Why bother? This arsehat DJT will just continue to blather endlessly. He has NO shame, and despite proving himself both innumerate and illiterate, he still believes he has something to add to the debate.

You will not get anything of value from him, he has yet to answer the very first question asked of him: to supply the results from the 60+ phase II clinical trials that Burzynski has used to enrich himself over several decades.

He has given us almost everything else Burzynski has ever published, but has not, CANNOT, deliver the one piece of evidence that would let his hero off the hook.

Narad Is he saying stupid stuff like usual where he thinks I would give up my legal history with a psychotic running around loose here?

If you were not basically devoid of verbal aptitude and general reasoning skills, you could in fact readily provide a summary of your no doubt awe-inspiring legal derring-do.

Oh, this one’s good on the pretend-lawyer front:

And as LW eloquently displays with his 1983 case is that the FDA had no Jurisdiction in the State of Texas. The State of Texas has Jurisdiction over its own Territory except where it has ceded property to the Federal Gub-ment or a Federal Law specifically applies.

The hilarious part here is that Burzynski attempted to argue that, because the federal injunction was against interstate distribution, the FDA had granted him immunity from the Texas Medical Practices Act.

Wow. DJT is even more incoherent than yesterday. Did anyone else bother to look through that mess and note that part of the section responding to Orac’s review of Merola’s propaganda is repeated? Not that it was very intelligible to start with, since there seem to be some quotations from Merola that are in quotation marks, but other comments that appear to be from Merola that aren’t in quotation marks interspersed with insults to Orac that evidently are comments from DJT.

I would suggest that DJT try to pay attention in English class, but considering the calibre of DJT’s school as revealed by his/her mathematical atrocities yesterday, I’m afraid that what we see is probably acceptable in DJT’s English classes.

“FDA had no Jurisdiction in the State of Texas.”

That will be a surprise to just about everyone in Texas.

“FDA had no Jurisdiction in the State of Texas.”

That will be a surprise to just about everyone in Texas.

They really don’t, to the extent that one is talking about FDCA § 301.

Well, so far we’ve seen him/her/it demonstrate

Math – fail.
English composition – fail.
Reading comprehension – fail.
Rhetoric – major fail.

Can’t comment on his/her/it’s critical thinking skills as none have been demonstrated.

@Narad: “They really don’t, to the extent that one is talking about FDCA § 301.”

Okay, they had no jurisdiction in this case.

It’s funny how the FDA is evilly trying to shut down and incarcerate Burzynski but they allowed him to create a Phase III — on paper only since all subjects were supposed to be accrued almost a year ago but none have been — so that proves the FDA believes his claims. According to the ever-courteous DJT.

@Shay: “Math — fail.”

Oh, come on, be fair. That deserves higher marks. Serious fail, at least.

@MarkL

I’m not bothering, so much as amusing myself.

I entirely agree with the rest of your comment. Hence me spending my energy on laughing at the little troll, rather than arguing its points.

Okay, they had no jurisdiction in this case.

OK, I was in a hurry before. Regarding the 1983 case, I don’t know that the FDA attempted to limit intrastate distribution in the first place, which winds up being illegal in Texas anyway. My understanding is that they did have jurisdication over GMP, so Squidymus’s emission is irrelevant on the one hand and wrong on the other.

12/17 Comments:
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And NO, I am NOT going to break down my posts to respond to y’all, because MANY of y’all are posting so much GIGO – Garbage In, Garbage Out, without cites.
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Just like some who are attempting to be the Time-Wasting, Tu-Quacking, 15-year old wanna-be, Winner, as I will show in the multiple parts of my reply to the multiple SPAMS.
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Don’t Blame Me!! YOU asked for THIS!!!
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Reviewed 3 clinical cases of advanced cancer in which we believed A10 & AS2-1 may be contributing to rapid antitumor response.
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7. 11.- 12/1998 – Authors: T Kumabe, H Tsuda, M Uchida, Y Ogoh, N Hayabuchi, M Sata, O Nakashima, H Hara
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Affiliations: Department of Radiology, Kumabe Hospital, Kurume University School of Medicine, Kurumeshi, Fukuokaken 830.-0011, Japan.
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Oncology Reports, Nov-Dec 1998, Volume 5 Number 6
Pages: 1363-1370
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A10 injection exhibited…growth inhibition of human…carcinoma cells in vitro & showed minimum adverse effects in a phase I clinical trial.
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Reviewed 2 cases of advanced HCC treated with A10 I.
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Both cases showed interesting responses to A10 I.
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1 showed massive coagulation necrosis of tumors after…infusion of A10 I & other showed resolution of…tumor thrombosis with systemic infusion of A10 I.
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8. 6/1/1999 – SR Burzynski
Mayo Clin Proc, June 1, 1999; 74(6): 641-2., PMID: .10377942
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9. 1.- 2/2002 – Authors: H. Tsuda, M. Sata, H. Ijuuin, T. Kumabe, M. Uchida, Y. Ogou, Y. Akagi, K. Shirouzu, H. Hara, Y. Nakashima
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Affiliations: Department of Anesthesiology, Kurume University, School of Medicine, Fukuoka-ken .830-0011, Japan
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Oncology Reports, January-February 2002, Volume 9 Number 1, Pages: 65-68
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A10 & AS2-1 chemically identified & synthesized antineoplastons proven to inhibit cancer cell growth by…inhibiting tumor growth.
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Cases of advanced cancer responded well to combination treatment…with A10 & AS2-1 in clinical trials being conducted in Kurume University Hospital.
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10 4/2003 – SR Burzynski
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Med Hypotheses, Apr 2003; 60(4): 578-83., PMID: .12615527
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Antineoplastons work as…switches, turning inactive tumor suppressor genes back on.
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While they activate tumor suppressor genes, they also activate some additional genes silenced during aging process.
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11. 3/1-2004 – Stanislaw R. Burzynski, Burzynski Research Institute, Houston, TX
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doi: 10.1177/1534735403261964 Integr Cancer Ther March 2004 vol. 3 no. 1 47-58
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Antineoplastons work as…switches, which regulate expression of genes.
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Phase II trials indicate efficacy of antineoplastons in low-grade glioma, brain stem glioma, high-grade glioma, adenocarcinoma of the colon, & hepatocellular carcinoma
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Best results observed in children with low-grade glioma, where 74% of patients obtained objective response, & in patients with adenocarcinoma of the colon…whose survival rate of more than 5 years is 91% versus 39% in controls.
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12. 9/2004 – Stanislaw R. Burzynski, MD, PhD, Robert I. Lewy, MD, FACP, Robert Weaver, MD, Tomasz Janicki, MD, Gabor Jurida, MD, Mohammad Khan, MD, Chymbeelyn B. Larisma, MD, Jaroslaw Paszkowiak, MD, Barbara Szymkowski, MD, Burzynski Clinic, Houston, Texas
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doi: 10.1177/1534735404267748 Integr Cancer Ther September 2004 vol. 3 no. 3 257-261
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Recurrent diffuse intrinsic brain stem glioblastoma multiforme carries extremely poor prognosis & median survival less than 7 months.
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Authors report good results in 40-year-old man diagnosed with glioblastoma multiforme who received antineoplastons.
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Brain tumor diagnosed in 5/1999, & subsequently underwent subtotal tumor resection & standard radiation therapy.
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MRI &…tomography scans documented tumor recurrence.
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Approximately 2 months after completion of radiation therapy, he was admitted for administration of…A10 & AS2-1.
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Administration of A10 & AS2-1 was over 655 consecutive days with exception of few short interruptions.
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Administration was very well tolerated with only mild reversible side effects.
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Follow-up MRI &…tomography scans revealed decrease & eventually disappearance of tumor
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Complete response documented after approximately 1 year of A10 & AS2-1.
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More than 4 years later, off A10 & AS2-1, patient is tumor free, able to carry on normal activities, & works full-time, & KPS increased from 50 to 100.
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Extensive phase II trials with A10 & AS2-1 in patients with glioblastoma multiforme are nearing completion.
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Trials may provide more data regarding efficacy of A10 & AS2-1 in treatment of glioblastoma multiforme in untreated patients compared to results in patients with tumor recurrence after radiation therapy.
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13. 3/2005 – Authors: Keiko Matono, Yutaka Ogata, Hideaki Tsuda, Yasumi Araki, Kazuo Shirouzu
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Oncology Reports, March 2005, Volume 13 Number 3
Pages: 389-395
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Affiliations: Department of Surgery, Kurume University School of Medicine, 67 Asahi-machi, Kurume City, Fukuoka .830-0011, Japan
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Investigated efficacy & mechanisms of AS2-1 against post-operative lung metastasis following removal of implanted human colon cancer in…rat.
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Influence of AS2-1 on in vitro…human colon carcinoma cell activities evaluated.
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AS2-1 administered…after removal of implanted …cancer in…rat.
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AS2-1 inhibited…cell proliferation through…cell arrest &, at higher concentration, induction of apoptosis.
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AS2-1 showed significant reduction in lung metastasis at 5 weeks & cecal removal.
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Survival rate in AS2-1 group significantly higher than control.
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TUNEL staining on lung…tumors revealed apoptosis index in AS2-1 group significantly higher.
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AS2-1 showed… effect against post-operative lung metastases from…cancer through…cell arrest & subsequent induction of apoptosis.
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14. 6/2005 – Stanislaw R. Burzynski, MD, PhD, Robert A. Weaver, MD, Tomasz Janicki, MD, Barbara Szymkowski, MD, Gabor Jurida, MD, Mohammad Khan, MD, Vsevolod Dolgopolov, MD, Burzynski Clinic, Houston, Texas
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doi: 10.1177/1534735405276835 Integr Cancer Ther June 2005 vol. 4 no. 2 168-177
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13 children, either with recurrent disease or high risk, treated in phase II studies with antineoplastons.
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Median age of patients 5 years, 7 months (range, 1-11).
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Medulloblastoma diagnosed in 8 patients
pineoblastoma in 3 patients.
Other PNET in 2 patients.
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Previous treatments included surgery in 12 patients.
(1 had biopsy only)
chemotherapy in 6 patients.
radiation therapy in 6 patients.
6 patients hadn’t received prior chemotherapy or radiation.
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Treatment consisted of…infusions of 2 formulations of ANP, A10 & AS2-1, & administered an average of 20 months.
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Complete response accomplished in 23%,
partial response in 8%,
stable disease in 31%,
progressive disease in 38% of cases.
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6 patients (46%) survived more than 5 years from initiation of ANP.
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5 not treated earlier with radiation therapy or chemotherapy.
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Serious side effects included single occurrences of fever, granulocytopenia, & anemia.
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Study ongoing & accruing additional patients.
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% of patients’ response lower than standard treatment of favorable PNET, but long-term survival in poor-risk cases & reduced toxicity makes ANP promising for very young children, patients at high risk of complication of standard therapy, & patients with recurrent tumors.
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15. 8/2005 – Authors: Teruhiko Fujii, Anna M. Nakamura, Goro Yokoyama, Miki Yamaguchi, Kosuke Tayama, Keisuke Miwa, Uhi Toh, Daisuke Kawamura, Kazuo Shirouzu, Hideaki Yamana, Michihiko Kuwano, Hideaki Tsuda
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Affiliations: Department of Surgery, Kurume University School of Medicine, 67 Asahimachi, Kurume, Fukuoka, .830-0011, Japan.
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Oncology Reports, August 2005, Volume 14 Number 2
Pages: 489-494
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Cells treated with A10 monitored for changes.
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A10 markedly inhibited SKBR-3 proliferation due to arrest in G1 phase.
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A10 down-regulated expression…resulting in inhibition.
increased expression…, with resultant inhibition.
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Study defined pathway in which A10 arrested…cells.
findings indicate that A10 antitumor effect could be utilized as effective therapy for breast cancer patients.
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16. 3/2006 –
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doi: 10.1177/1534735405285380 Integr Cancer Ther March 2006 vol. 5 no. 1 40-47
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Brainstem glioma carries worst prognosis of all malignancies of the brain.
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Most patients with brainstem glioma fail standard radiation therapy & chemotherapy & do not survive longer than 2 years.
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Treatment even more challenging when inoperable tumor is of high-grade pathology (HBSG).
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Objective of report to summarize outcome of patients with HBSG treated with antineoplastons in 4 phase 2 trials.
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Patients: group of 18 patients was evaluable:
4 patients with glioblastomas.
14 patients with anaplastic HBSG.
14 patients had diffuse intrinsic tumors.
12 patients suffered from recurrence.
6 patients did not have radiation therapy or chemotherapy.
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Methods: Antineoplastons, which consist of antineoplaston A10 (A10I) & AS2-1 injections, were given in escalating doses.
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Median duration of antineoplaston administration was 5 months.
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Responses were assessed by…enhanced MRI &…tomography.
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Results: overall survival at 2 & 5 years was 39% & 22%, respectively.
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Maximum survival was more than 17 years for patient with anaplastic astrocytoma.
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More than 5 years for a patient with glioblastoma.
Progression-free survival at 6 months was 39%.
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Complete response was achieved in 11%.
Partial response in 11%.
Stable disease in 39%.
Progressive disease in 39% of patients.
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Antineoplastons were tolerated very well with 1 case of grade 4 toxicity (reversible anemia).
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Conclusion: Antineoplastons contributed to more than 5-year survival in recurrent diffuse intrinsic glioblastomas & anaplastic astrocytomas of brainstem in small group of patients.
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17. 11/18.- 21/2010 – Stanislaw R. Burzynski, Robert A. Weaver, Tomasz J. Janicki, Gregory S. Burzynski, Barbara Szymkowski & Sheryll S. Acelar, Burzynski Clinic
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Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of the Society for Neuro-Oncology 2010
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Neuro Oncol (2010) 12 (suppl 4): iv69-iv78. doi: 10.1093/neuonc/noq116.s9 This article appears in: Abstracts from the 15th Annual Meeting of the Society for Neuro-Oncology (SNO), November 18–21, 2010, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Purpose of study was to evaluate efficacy & toxicity of antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 (ANP) in adult patients with recurrent mixed gliomas.
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13 of 20 patients enrolled were evaluable.
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7 patients could not be evaluated due to inadequate duration of treatment & lack of follow-up MRI scans
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4 women & 9 men.
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Median age was 38 (range, 29–54).
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Median KPS score at baseline was 70 (range, 60–100).
1 patient had low-grade & 12 patients had high-grade mixed gliomas.
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All patients received chemotherapy, radiation therapy, & surgery prior to ANP, with exception of 1 patient who received no chemotherapy or radiation therapy postsurgery.
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Patients received escalating doses of…ANP 6 times daily.
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Median duration of treatment was 4.4 months.
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ANP was well tolerated, with most common side effects being urinary frequency, hypernatremia, dysgeusia, myalgias, nausea, & hypersensitivity.
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Serious (grade 3) toxicity (urinary frequency) was observed in only 1 patient & there were no grade 4 toxicities.
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Response to ANP monitored by MRIs of the brain.
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Responses were as follows:
Complete response, 23%.
Partial response, 8%.
Stable disease, 23%.
Progressive disease, 46%.
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Progression-free survivals (PFS) at 1, 2, & 5 years were 31%, 23%, & 8%, respectively.
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Overall survivals (OS) from diagnosis & start of treatment at 1, 2, & 5 years were 92% & 54%, 85% & 23%, & 46% & 8%, respectively.
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Preliminary results of our small study of adults with recurrent mixed gliomas revealed ANP to be very effective in resolving or stabilizing disease in more than 50% of treated patients as well as encouraging PFS & OS with minimal toxicity.
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18. 9/18.- 21/2010 – Sonali Patil, Stanislaw R. Burzynski, Emilia Mrowczynski & Krzysztof Grela, Burzynski Research Institute
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Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of the Society for Neuro-Oncology 2010
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Neuro Oncol (2010) 12 (suppl 4): iv7-iv25. doi: 10.1093/neuonc/noq116.s2 This article appears in: Abstracts from the 15th Annual Meeting of the Society for Neuro-Oncology (SNO), November 18–21, 2010, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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In this study, we report the changes in expression of several…glioblastoma cells in response to exposure to AS2-1.
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Using total human microarray screen we noted reduced expression…& enhanced expression of genes involved in apoptosis in…cells exposed to AS2-1.
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Antineoplastons will be used in phase III U.S. FDA-regulated clinical trials this year.
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Once approved, these…derivatives may offer promising treatment in many types of brain tumors.
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19. 9/6.- 9/2012 – S. Patil⇓,S. Burzynski, E.Mrowczynski & K. Grela, Burzynski Research Institute, Houston, TX, United States
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Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of the Society for Neuro-Oncology 2012
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Neuro Oncol (2012) 14 (suppl 3): iii1-iii94. doi: 10.1093/neuonc/nos183 This article appears in: Abstracts from the 10th Congress of European Association Of NeuroOncology, Marseille, France September 6-9, 2012
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In this study we investigated effectiveness of combination of PG…
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PG is used in formulation of AS2-1 .
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FDA granted Orphan Drug designation for A10 & AS2-1 for treatment of gliomas, in 2009.
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12 FDA supervised Phase II clinical trials have confirmed anti-tumor efficacy in several types of brain tumor.
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PB is indicated for treatment of glioma & acute… leukemia.
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PB has been shown to inhibit…, induce differentiation & apoptosis in cancer cells.
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Previous studies in our laboratory have shown the combination of PG &…acts synergistically to inhibit growth of…glioblastoma cells.
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Another published report has shown that PB induces apoptosis in…cancer cells.
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In this study we examined effect of combination of PG with…on.. cell line.
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We found PG causes down-regulation of…in
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PG is not toxic to normal cells.
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We describe the novel combination of.. & PB as effective anti-proliferative agents in glioblastoma & medulloblastoma cells.
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Links not included on this post in order that it not be Orac Spam Bot Tu-Quack Blocked.

@ Diddums

So still no published, peer reviewed results from any of Burzynski’s phase 2 trials to report yet then?

FAIL (again)

DJT:
Heretic: a professed believer who maintains religious opinions contrary to those accepted by his or her church or rejects doctrines prescribed by that church.

2. Roman Catholic Church . a baptized Roman Catholic who willfully and persistently rejects any article of faith.

3. anyone who does not conform to an established attitude, doctrine, or principle.
Note that there is only one “i,” and that none of these definitions have tics, ticks, or tocks. Also, we are discussing science, not religion- which probably escaped you. There is no heresy in medicine; only stuff that works and stuff that stupid people cling to, even if it ought to have been thrown out.

Don’t Blame Me!! YOU asked for THIS!!!

Posting the same crap that you plainly don’t understand once again? No, not really.

Squidymus,
I am amazed that anyone would have the nerve to return after the utter humiliation you have heaped upon yourself. Have you no shame? You want more humiliation? I’m happy to oblige.

KreBLOGGERzen wants Grandè BLACK CROWS TO EAT!!!!!!!!!!

You haven’t quite gotten the hang of humorously changing pseudonyms have you? As for the crow, it’s you who should be finding some way of making a very large portion palatable.

Please cite the specific date & post re Galileo because you are wrong YET AFAGAIN!
I never posted that: _____”Your insistence that Galileo discovered that the world is round…”

Yes you did, right here.

Yep, we know Science picks sides from:
Galileo – the Earth is round.
Ignaz Semmelweis – wash your hands between the time you deliver a baby & do an autopsy & deliver a baby, unless you like sending people “Down Under.”

You even defended that statement later on that thread when various people called you out on it. The evidence is there for all to see.

How would you like your CROW COOKED?

Pathetic.

_____”defence of your statement that, “It’s great that the USA is #1 in incarnation of individuals in prisons” is hilarious, thanks for the laugh.”

You wrote incarnation, presumably meaning “incarnation”, you halfwit. That’s why we’re laughing at you.

WRONG AGAIN KreBLOGizenica!! This is exactly WHY you need to “FACT-CHECK” your posts!

Anyone can make a typo, but few will fail to notice it when quoting it, twice, and defend what they thought they wrote instead of addressing what they did write.

_____”You have bragged about this here before, using a different name, haven’t you?”
WRONG YET AGAIN KreBLOGidenize!!!

Can a question be wrong? If you haven’t bragged about it here before, there is someone who posts comments with an identical style and similar content who also boasted of the same achievement not that long ago. In other words, I don’t believe you.

How would you like your THIRD HELPING of CROW????

Exponentially pathetic.

_____”… here you are on a science blog, defending pseudoscience”
WRONG to the DOUBLE ONG YET AGAIN!!!!
As I have clearly posted before, I attack both sides!

Nonsense. The only possible explanation for the reams of material you have posted here is that you are defending Burzynski. I haven’t seen any criticism of Burzynski from you at all. How is that in any way attacking both sides?

HOW’D YA LIKE YER 4th SERVING OF CROW COOKED???????

I think you deserve to eat it all raw.

And yet after all that goat cheese, you provide not 1 cite to support your braying in the wind!!!!!!!

Whether you like it or not, the facts as presented by Merola’s publicist in the movie, and the documents on its website such as radiology and histopathology reports, are not consistent with the claim in the movie that Burzynski cured Jodi Fenton’s cancer. I don’t need a citation to prove that, it’s evident to anyone who can read and understand an MRI report and a timeline. If there were any decent citations to cite about Burzynski’s work, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

Isn’t there an internet Law about comments about typos containing typos?
I meant, “You wrote incarnation, presumably meaning “incarceration”, you halfwit. ” The difference is I noticed, and I acknowledge I made a mistake.

Bleaurgh. When I wrote “Merola’s publicist” I meant “Merola, Burzynski’s publicist”. It’s been a long day.

@ Krebiozen:

Do you ever feel as if you’re addressing a brick wall, dining room table or a large chest of drawers?
Fortunately, there are lurkers who see all, read all and silently steep in SB goodness far away in the deepest, darkest recesses of cyberspace, they wait developing.

Now and then, we are graced with their overt presence when one steps forth and says, “O hai!” or suchlike.

My goodness, is djt continuing to prove himself a neverending supply of self-inflicted stupidity.

djt, a perfect example of Dunning-Kreuger.

He/she/it has to keep posting, the idiocy projected from this individual is sooooo entertaining.

So, djt, if you are reading this, keep posting. We do need a fool like yourself to keep us entertained, and you seem to have the role locked up pretty well.

@Krebiozen

I haven’t seen any criticism of Burzynski from you at all. How is that in any way attacking both sides?

Presumably since we’re providing the criticism, Squidymus is providing the “other side” (re: his “defence of truth” comment). Or something…

12/18 Comments:
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KreBLOGintent:
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_____”What specifically has Orac said that isn’t factually true?”
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_____ME:
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As an individual with an inquisitive brain, the first thing I noticed about Orac’s “REVIEW” is that it has the definite air of having been cherry-picked.
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I’ve never been shy about letting readers know exactly what I think of certain biased “Cherry-Picking” “reviews.”
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_____Orac:
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“No one would ever confuse my reviews with those of Roger Ebert (mine tend to be a lot longer, for one thing, and concentrate on science much more than moviemaking)”
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_____ME:
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_____Orac’s “REVIEW” sure had a lot of non-scientific ramblings.
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_____KreBLOGinSpot:
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“Where does Orac claim he is an investigative journalist, sorry an “Investigative Journalist”?”
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_____Orac:
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“I thought that the least I could do is to oblige him by reviewing Burzynski The Movie and bringing what attention I can to it.”
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_____ME:
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(Though Orac chooses NOT to mention the original Oncologists were given the opportunity to comment on-camera or in writing – and NO, I don’t need to hear you making excuses for them!!!)
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_____ME:
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Orac also “cherry picks.
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_____KreBLOGpress:
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Example?
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_____Orac:
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“In Burzynski The Movie, Dr. Whitaker has his nose embedded so far up Dr. Burzynski’s rectum that Dr. Burzynski wouldn’t need a colonoscopy if Merola just strapped a light to Dr. Whitaker’s face.”
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_____ME: (The “Cherry-Picking begins!)
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Really nice example of “Yellow Journalism!”
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism
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The use of eye-catching headlines, exaggerations, or sensationalism.
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_____Orac:
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“According to Merola, the reason he wanted to do Burzynski The Movie because:

“After spending over a decade immersed in all aspects of the media world, Eric became aware of Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski and realized his was a story that must be told. Having always been heavily influenced by the power of documentary films, he set out to direct and produce the story of Dr. Burzynski and his patients.”
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_____Orac:
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“…I have to wonder whether Dr. Burzynski just hired Merola to make an infomercial”
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” Merola claims the movie was his idea, but I have a hard time believing it.”
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_____Orac, who attaches an article to his blog where Merola clearly states his motivation, and it WASN’T being hired by SRB!!
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_____Orac:
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“…but the end product of his work is so one-sided that it’s a joke, and a bad one at that.”
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_____Orac, when Merola clearly stated that there was plenty of opposition but it was cut during editing in order to meet time-constraints; especially since he felt there was enough opposition information in the public domain already.
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_____Orac:
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“…the FDA, big pharma, and the cancer establishment want to put Burzynski out of business not to protect the public but rather to protect industry profits and FDA power. The rest of the movie is about the FDA, the NCI, the Texas Medical Board, and various other entities investigating, or, as the movie implies, persecuting…”
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Hmmmmm,
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1975 – President Nixon declares War on Cancer.
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3/2/1976 – FDA Bureau of Drugs Director Richard Crout states in The Cancer Letter of 3/12/1976, that when anyone other than large institutions ask permission to conduct clinical trials, “You want harsh regulations… sometimes we say it is proper to hinder research.”
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Dr. James Watson: “The war on cancer is a bunch of sh*t.” (Discoverer of DNA, Nobel Laureate, former member of the National Cancer Advisory Board, Nobel Prize Winner. (And he’s still at it!!)
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Virtually every significant effort to investigate & validate alternative & innovative methods of cancer prevention & treatment has been buried by the National Cancer Institutes & the American Cancer Society.” – Frank Wiewel, Former Chairman, Pharmacological & Biological Treatments Committee, Office of Alternative Medicine, National Institutes of Health.
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“For much of history, the cancer war has been fighting the wrong battles, with the wrong weapons, against the wrong enemies.” – Devra Lee Davis, member National Academy of Sciences, The Secret History of the War on Cancer.
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“Everyone should know that the war on cancer is largely a fraud, and the National Cancer Institute & the American Cancer Society are derilict in their duties to the people who support them.” – Linus Pauling, 2-time Nobel Laureate
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1997 – Congress has, in the past, found that FDA advisory committee members with financial ties to pharmaceutical companies (ownership of company stock or patent rights to certain treatments) have had such conflicts of interest waived during approval processes.
www. gpo. gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-106hhrg73042/html/CHRG-106hhrg73042.htm
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5/14/2007 – The FDA has been accused before of protecting cancer drug profits. In the 5/14/2007 Wall Street Journal, Mark Thorton, MD, PhD, a former FDA official in the Office of Oncology Products, denounced the FDA’s refusal to approve Provenge, a new immunotherapy vaccine for prostate cancer, citing that “the FDA succeeded in killing not one but two safe, promising therapies designed and developed to act by stimulating a patient’s immune system against cancer.”
www. opednews. com/populum/pagem.php?f=genera_evelyn_p_071009_fda_industry_insider.htm
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(And there are so many other examples!)
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_____Orac:
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“The short version of the story behind antineoplastons is that there is no good basic science or clinical evidence to suggest that antineoplastons have any significant activity against cancer.”
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_____ME:
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THAT certainly explains why SRB was granted Phase II & III Clinical Trials (because antineoplastons do nothing) & the Japanese have since at least 1988 been doing studies, trials, toxicology studies, pre-clinical studies & Phase I Clinical Trials on Antineoplastons!
http:// assets0. pubget. com/search?q=Antineoplaston
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_____Orac:
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“So, as described above, Dr. Burzynski has lots of clinical trials and charges his patients lots of money for them. You think I’m exaggerating? Doubt no more. Here are the charges presented to a family seeking treatment for a member with bowel cancer:”
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_____ME:
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So they would have to pay costs like traditional cancer treatment patients?:
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8/10/2012 – The average cost of a 30 day cancer drug prescription was more than $1,600 in 2006 & it’s even higher today. Some of the newer cancer treatments can cost as much as $10,000 for a month’s supply:
http:// m. cancer. org/treatment/findingandpayingfortreatment/managinginsuranceissues/the-cost-of-cancer-treatment
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2010 – Cancer treatment is big business.
$124.6 BILLION: NIH estimates the direct medical costs of cancer care in 2010. FOLLOW THE MONEY:
www. progressreport. cancer. gov/doc_detail.asp?pid=1&did=2009&chid=95&coid=926&mid
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6/16/2009 -Hospital wanted $30-thousand deposit for cancer treatment :
http:// articles. cnn. com/2009-06-16/politics/health.care.hearing_1_health-insurance-post-claims-underwriting-individual-health?_s=PM:POLITICS
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7/6/2008 – Cancer drug can cost $100-thousand a year, $4-thousand to $9-thousand a month, possible death & only prolong life for some months:
http:// www. nytimes. com/2008/07/06/health/06avastin.html?_r=0
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4/28/2008 – Hospital wanted $45-thousand up-front for chemotherapy:
http:// online. wsj. com/public/article/SB120934207044648511.html?mod=2_1566_topbox#articleTabs%3Darticle
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Response: What experts? Where is their proof of this statement? Why is Dateline so afraid of backing anything they state with evidence instead of constantly carrying on with their anecdotal testimony that they masquerade around as science? According to the Children’s Hospital of Boston, they find that “Inability to achieve a complete surgical removal [of a pilocytic astrocytoma] and the presence of recurrent disease decreases prognosis and long-term survival.” [source]. I was unable to find anything anywhere in the peer-reviewed scientific literature that says these kids simply “outgrow them”. You will also notice that Dateline doesn’t show it’s audience their “experts” stating this. For all we know some random sociologist told them this. And why does Dateline rely on these “experts” who are not experts in th
http://www.childrenshospital.org/az/Site684/mainpageS684P0.html

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“When other researchers do a trial with his neoplastons, the results aren’t nearly as promising; in fact, the results are pretty much always negative, and significant adverse reactions are observed.”
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You mean like all those positive Japanese studies, toxicology studies. trials, preclinical trials & Phase I Clinical Trials?:
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And if the FDA was watching him closely, how did he supposedly pull the wool over their eyes?:
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1997 The Dividing Line Between the Role of the FDA and the Practice of Medicine: A Historical Review and Current Analysis (Citing Burzynski)
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The role of the agency is not to regulate the practice of medicine or otherwise interfere with the practice of the healing arts.
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Manifestation of Congressional intent that the FDA should not interject itself into the realm of the doctor/patient relationship.
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Some argue that only large conglomerates have the financial backing to survive the time and expense of the FDA approval process.
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It is generally estimated that it can take up to 15 years for the approval of a new drug and the process may cost up to 500 million dollars.
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6 years into production, enjoined against selling.
Permission to run clinical trials a few years later.
Then plug pulled.
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Only approximately 300 of what were formerly thousands of patients are allowed to be treated currently under very close FDA scrutiny
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“Of course, a pattern has emerged over the years. Whenever Burzynski does a trial, the results come out as promising, with minimal or mild toxicity. When other researchers do a trial with his neoplastons, the results aren’t nearly as promising; in fact, the results are pretty much always negative, and significant adverse reactions are observed.
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You mean like those incomplete NIH Phase II Clinical Trials?:
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2004 – Managing social conflict in complementary and alternative medicine research: the case of antineoplastons.
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Mitchell R Hammer & Wayne B Jonas
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Integr Cancer Ther 3(1):59-65 (2004), PMID .15035877
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DOI:10.1177/1534735404263448
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Integr Cancer Ther. 2004 Mar;3(1):59-65.
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Affiliation
International Peace and Conflict Resolution Program, School of International Service, American University, Washington, DC, USA.
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Abstract
From 12/1991 to 12/1995, the National Cancer Institute (NCI) initiated phase II clinical trials of A10 & AS2-1 (antineoplastons) infusions in patients with diagnosed primary malignant brain tumors.
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4 years & more than a million dollars later, these studies were stopped before it was possible to determine the effectiveness of antineoplastons.
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In an effort to determine why this study failed to be completed, the director of the National Institutes of Health Office of Alternative Medicine (OAM), who sponsored the study, commissioned a detailed analysis of the conflicts that led to the study’s closure.
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The intent was to understand the social dynamics surrounding this failed study & to develop a method for managing & possibly preventing such failures in the future.
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This article summarizes the findings from this case study.
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PMID .15035877 [PubMed – indexed for MEDLINE]
HighWire Press
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/15035877/Managing_social_conflict_in_complementary_and_alternative_medicine_research__the_case_of_antineoplastons
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http:// www. ncbi. nlm. nih. gov/m/pubmed/15035877
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“In the late 1990s three well-respected oncologists reviewed Burzynski’s clinical trial evidence and all agreed that:
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1998 – Anonymous Experts say interpretable results unlikely in Burzynski’s antineoplastons studies. Cancer Lett. 1998;24:1–16. [PubMed]
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The toxicities of the antineoplastons treatment are significant and life-threatening.
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THESE adverse effects which look like they are nowhere near the side effects of GLEEVEC?:
http:// www. cancer. gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/antineoplastons/healthprofessional/page6
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“If Burzynski wants to convince patients and physicians that his drug works, he will have to accept the established mechanisms of clinical trials.”
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You mean like the Phase I & II Clinical Trials which SRB did & the Phase III Clinical Trials that the FDA has approved?
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The science just isn’t there.
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“If Burzynski had real evidence that his therapy worked (i.e., clinical trial evidence), then he wouldn’t be resorting to anecdotes like this one, which doesn’t show conclusively that it was the antineoplastons that eliminated the tumor.”
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“CONCLUSION: Although we could not confirm any tumor regression in patients in this study, the small sample size precludes definitive conclusions about treatment efficacy.”
www. ncbi. nlm. nih. gov/m/pubmed/10069350
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http:// www. mayoclinicproceedings. org/article/S0025-6196(11)63835-4/abstract
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http:// linkinghub. elsevier. com/retrieve/pii/S0025-6196(11)63835-4
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“If Burzynski had real evidence that his therapy worked (i.e., clinical trial evidence), then he wouldn’t be resorting to anecdotes like this one, which doesn’t show conclusively that it was the antineoplastons that eliminated the tumor.”
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Like this?
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Let’s take a quick look at some of the cancer medicines recently given “accelerated approval” by the FDA:
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Avastin (breast cancer) 2008:
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The FDA granted accelerated approval for Avastin in the treatment of advanced breast cancer in 2008.
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The results that allowed it to be “accelerated”:
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Only 11.3 months of “Progression-free survival”. [10]
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The FDA took it off the market for this condition in November 2011 because it doesn’t work at all if not properly prescribed [11] (or at least for the oncological world who simply does not understand how to prescribe this gene-targeted medicine—which is pretty much all of them).
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But don’t feel bad for the company that owns it, they made their fortune from it already for this condition, making up for 17% of the entire company’s sales. [12]
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Avastin (Glioblastoma brain cancer) 2009:
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The FDA granted accelerated approval for this medicine for Glioblastoma
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The FDA’s reasoning was “People with this type of brain cancer have had no new treatments in more than a decade”. [13]
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Well, what about “brainstem glioma” patients?
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They haven’t had a new treatment for that condition—ever.
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Only 58 patients were treated in a single Phase 2 study.
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The median “response duration” was a mere 3.9 months.
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Antineoplastons have a 30% cure rate in “brainstem glioma”, not a “response rate”.
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During this single Phase 2 arm of 58 patients that got Avastin accelerated approval for Glioblastoma—none of them were cured.
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Avastin is a gene-targeted therapy, which can only target certain specific genes.
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Oncologists do not test the patient to even see if they have these genes.
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Antineoplastons have an upward of a 9% cure rate for this condition. [15] [16] [17]
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Most of the public could care less about “response rates”—they want to see actual cures.
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But, if “response rates” are important, how about the total of 368 patients treated with antineoplastons in Phase 2 trials for Glioblastoma where 40.5% of them had a stable disease? [15]
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Temodar (Anaplastic Astrocytoma brain cancer) 1999:
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Like most toxic chemotherapies, Temodar impairs or destroys a person’s ability to remain fertile, among other hideous side effects. [21]
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Afinitor (ubependymal giant cell astrocytoma (SEGA) brain tumor):
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2. http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=39532
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3. http://www.cancer-therapy.org/CT/v5/B/PDF/42._Burzynskihttp://www.cancer-therapy.org/CT/v5/B/PDF/42._Burzynski,_379-390.pdf
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4: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16484713?dopt=Abstract
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5. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12718563?dopt=Abstract
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6. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17278121
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7. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15565574
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8. (Timecode 4:18-6:10): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1buiXWr_QTQ
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9. http://www.boston.com/yourlife/health/diseases/articles/2007/02/26/taking_back_the_fda/
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10. http://www.drugs.com/newdrugs/fda-grants-accelerated-approval-avastin-combination-paclitaxel-chemotherapy-first-line-advanced-852.html
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11. http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/ucm279485.htm
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12. http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Roche_Pharmaceuticals_(RHHBY)
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13. http://www.drugs.com/newdrugs/fda-grants-accelerated-approval-avastin-brain-cancer-glioblastoma-has-progressed-following-prior-1342.html
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18. http://clincancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/11/19/6767.full
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21. http://www.drugs.com/pro/temodar.html
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22. http://www.novartis.com/newsroom/media-releases/en/2010/1457419.shtml
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One thing’s for sure, Orac isn’t subtle. He hits you over the head with his anti-Burzynski anti-Merola over & over & over again. It must be that medical background again.
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“At best, looking at the evidence, I conclude that they might have very minimal anticancer activity, and even that’s doubtful.”
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Anyone besides me notice all the Antineoplaston information being added to Cancer . gov?
http:// www. cancer. gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/antineoplastons/healthprofessional/page1

Do you ever feel as if you’re addressing a brick wall, dining room table or a large chest of drawers?

I do, but I also get the feeling that somewhere in the depths of those clouds of sepia there is some sort of rational mind that might be reachable. I really only bother for the lurkers*, as you astutely observe.

* That term still makes me smile, as The Lurkers was a UK punk band I was fond of back in the late 70s.

Diddums,

So your support for Burzynski is now predicated on Orac’s supposed failings as a film reviewer now that your “Phase III trials PROVES efficacy” gambit has failed, and that you have given up trying to find the non-existent Phase II trial results?

You are a laughable little troll relying on semantics to try and retain any credibility. As I said before, GIVE IT UP, you are making an utter fool of yourself.

Anyone besides me notice all the Antineoplaston information being added to Cancer . gov?

Nothing has been added to the Antineoplaston PDQ summary on cancer.gov since August, and it STILL says there is no proof of efficacy.

Your attempts to shore up support for Burzynski have become farcical!

@Didymus Judas Thomas,

Thanks for pointing out the information on antineoplastons on the National Cancer Institute web site. I was particularly intrigued by the comment that “The evidence for use of antineoplaston therapy as a treatment for cancer is inconclusive. Controlled clinical trials are necessary to assess the value of this therapy.”

I note the comment that “While these publications [by Dr. Burzynski and his collaborators) have reported on successful remissions with the use of antineoplastons, other investigators have been unable to duplicate these results and suggest that interpreting effects of antineoplaston treatment in patients with recurrent gliomas may be confounded by pre-antineoplaston treatment as well as imaging artifacts.”

Dr. James Watson: “The war on cancer is a bunch of sh*t.” (Discoverer of DNA, Nobel Laureate, former member of the National Cancer Advisory Board, Nobel Prize Winner. (And he’s still at it!!)

I think a more relevant Watson quote might be, “If you are really stupid, I would call that a disease.”

Sir Diddimus is also still clinging to his belief that since the FDA approved Burzynski’s Phase III trial protocol, that’s the same as approving Phase III trials.

Again — reading comprehension fail.

Have you noticed how many times he/she/it mentions Orac? There’s a serious scream for attention, here. I have a feeling Sir D has a serious knot in his/her/its panties over being ignored by the big box of blinking lights.

Squidymus,
So you can’t point to any factually inaccurate statements by Orac, or anywhere he claims to be an investigative journalist, and you don’t understand what ‘cherry picking’ means. See, you could have saved yourself almost 100 lines by fitting that into a single sentence, like I did. That might also have avoided making yourself look like a raving lunatic, but it’s probably a bit late to worry about that.

Do you have any substantial points to make or are you just determined to show off your lack of education and poor communication skills even further? There’s nothing wrong with ignorance, as long as you acknowledge it, and try to do something about it. Another tip: trying to bluff your way through an area you clearly no nothing about in the company of people who do is a really, really bad move.

Frankly I’m surprised Orac hasn’t wielded the ban hammer for the sheer volume of incoherent garbage the Sepia Troll has rudely excreted on his blog.

1975 – President Nixon declares War on Cancer.

US history isn’t my specialist subject, but wasn’t Gerald Ford US President in 1975?

The FDA took [Avastin] off the market for this condition in November 2011 because it doesn’t work at all if not properly prescribed [11] (or at least for the oncological world who simply does not understand how to prescribe this gene-targeted medicine—which is pretty much all of them).

Looks like Merola (from whom this regurgitation originates) doesn’t understand the difference between a gene and a protein or, really, what “gene-targeted” means in the first place. Quick, Squidymus, explain the difference between Herceptin and Avastin.

I look forward to another shouty effusion from DJT, denying that he had ever claimed that James Watson discovered DNA.

Then there’s this:

3/2/1976 – FDA Bureau of Drugs Director Richard Crout states in The Cancer Letter of 3/12/1976, that when anyone other than large institutions ask permission to conduct clinical trials, “You want harsh regulations… sometimes we say it is proper to hinder research.”

Here’s the full quote, kindly provided by the Burzynski movie folks (who I suspect assumed people wouldn’t bother to check it) in context:

“The fact of life is, we get INDs,” Crout said. They have in them toxicological data. We have to make a judgment. These come from a variety of places, not just NCI or the top research institutions. For some places, you want harsh regulations, backed by the full weight of the law-have had INDs for laetrile, for example, and other hoax remedies. What are the correct ways to develop drugs? There are correct ways. Some involve procedural matters, some general things like informed consent. Sometimes we say it is proper to hinder research. We’re asking you to lay down the procedural rules for working up drugs in the cancer field.”

That all seems perfectly reasonable to me. What’s the point of regulation if it doesn’t regulate?

Krebiozen, DJT is going to hate you. YOU CHEATED. You did some research before posting…………………..

US history isn’t my specialist subject, but wasn’t Gerald Ford US President in 1975?

Ding! It’s from their “The Failed War on Cancer,” ah, “editorial.”

(I’m referring, of course, to the dates of the Ford presidency. He only became president in August 1974 and it wasn’t a real Presidency, not really-truly. I mean, it’s not like he was elected or anything.)

Ford, Nixon, whatever. I’m surprised iDJiT didn’t say FDR declared War on Cancer in 1975.

The National Cancer Act, regarded as the beginning of the War on Cancer, was signed by Nixon…in 1971.

I haven’t finished picking yet. I’m always intrigued by these gishgallops of quotations we so often see, just like those that Squidymus has unoriginally posted here. They are often very difficult to track down, as they almost never give a source. It’s sometimes worth a try though, as they often do not say quite what we are led to think, so…

Moving on to the inventor of DNA:

Dr. James Watson: “The war on cancer is a bunch of sh*t.”

I can’t find a date, a context or indeed a source for this alleged quote. Watson said a lot of things, often they seem to have been designed to shock, some of them were downright foolish (even racist), so it wouldn’t surprise me if he said this. What he meant by it is anyone’s guess.

As Narad pointed out I, the quotes Squidymus has laid upon us in his latest comment come from a ‘People Against Cancer’ newsletter. ‘People Against Cancer’ is an organization headed by Frank Wiewel which opposes conventional cancer treatments and supports alternative ones.

One quote which I won’t bother to repeat (essentially it’s “Help, help, we’re being repressed”), is from Frank Wiewel himself. He is described as:

Former Chairman, Pharmacological & Biological Treatments Committee, Office of Alternative Medicine, National Institutes of Health.

Here’s what Quackwatch has to say about Weiwel:

PAC’s founder and president is Frank D. Wiewel, whose father-in-law was a patient of Lawrence Burton, Ph.D., the developer of immuno-augmentative therapy (IAT). Wiewel began his cancer-related activities as president of the IAT Patient’s Association, Inc. (IATPA), which was formed in 1985. IATPA’s original purpose was to promote IAT, but its scope gradually expanded to include other dubious cancer methods. In 1990, it was renamed People Against Cancer. In 1991, during a deposition, Wiewel testified that he had completed two years of college, studying liberal arts subjects, and had no training in science, medicine, pharmacy, microbiology, physiology, oncology or hematology.

Wiewel helped persuade Iowa Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) to spearhead passage of a 1991 law establishing the NIH Office of Unconventional Treatment (now called the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine) and served on the advisory board for six years.

Weiwel was partly responsible for the founding of NCCAM, and is not a reliable source of information about cancer and its treatment.

“For much of history, the cancer war has been fighting the wrong battles, with the wrong weapons, against the wrong enemies.” – Devra Lee Davis, member National Academy of Sciences, The Secret History of the War on Cancer.

What does Davis mean? Perhaps the rest of the quote might help?

The campaign has targeted the disease and left off the table the things that cause it – tobacco, alcohol, the workplace, and other environmental hazards.

Davis is calling for a closer look at the causes of cancer, not complaining that brave maverick doctors like Burzynski have the answers.

“Everyone should know that the war on cancer is largely a fraud, and the National Cancer Institute & the American Cancer Society are derilict in their duties to the people who support them.” – Linus Pauling, 2-time Nobel Laureate

Sadly Pauling, who was once a hero of mine for his work in biochemistry, succumbed to Nobel disease later in his life, and grew increasingly frustrated that no one else seemed to recognize the benefits of humungous doses of vitamin C, so sadly he might have said this. I don’t think Pauling was a reliable source of information on cancer or its treatment either.

And…

Frank Wiewel, Former Chairman, Pharmacological & Biological Treatments Committee, Office of Alternative Medicine, National Institutes of Health.

Frank Wiewel’s scientific credentials begin and end with being bassist and a singer for the Iowa band The Hawks, after which point hijinks began to ensue. Great argument by aphoristic authority there, Diddles.

“Everyone should know that the war on cancer is largely a fraud, and the National Cancer Institute & the American Cancer Society are derilict in their duties to the people who support them.” – Linus Pauling, 2-time Nobel Laureate

I’ll bet that Linus Pauling, unlike iDJiT, could spell derelict.

Dr. James Watson: “The war on cancer is a bunch of sh*t.”

I can’t find a date, a context or indeed a source for this alleged quote.

It’s fantastic that Wiewel considers Watson and Pauling to be his “colleagues.” Anyway, the frequntly accompanying “bill of goods” line (without the “nasty”) appears in the Nov./Dec. New Ecologist, at least.

Dr. James Watson: “The war on cancer is a bunch of sh*t.”

I am happy to believe that the ‘war on cancer’ was a politically-driven waste of resources throughout the 1970s, with a lot of throwing-money tactics. But what does that have to do with Burzynski’s quackery?

the Nov./Dec. New Ecologist, at least
That is an entertaining article. In the context of arguing that more effort should be invested researching the journal’s obsessions of diet & nutrition, the author inadvertently points out that the whole diet / cancer angle was researched exhaustively — back when everyone hewed to the holistic / life-style paradigm because nothing better was available — and nothing came of it.

“In the nineteen forties one half of sponsored research on cancer concerned diet.”

You would have thought that if the diet angle dominated research for decades before people finally gave up and moved on to new directions, that would tell the author something, but in the author’s mind it only indicated bigpharmasuppressingcureforcancer.

That is an entertaining article.

I was surprised to find an ad for Yukon Jack in the Rosenbaum New Times. Sometimes I think I’m it’s only surviving defender.

12/17 Comments:
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“Which questions have you asked that have remained unanswered anyway? It is quite possible they may have been missed in amongst the large amounts of incoherent verbiage you have dumped here. Why not put them in a clear, concise comment that people can understand and might even have time to read?”
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11/28 – Orac: Do I understand correctly that you are really seriously attempting to contend that Big Pharma was Fined $13 BILLION (That is BILLION with a “B”) over this 4 year period and GlaxoSmithKline was Fined $3 BILLION this year (the largest ever Fine on a drug co) for behaving MORE ETHICALLY than SRB?
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Please provide “FACTS” that support your false allegation that SRB “behaves more unethically” than Big Pharma in that he does things that Big Pharma doesn’t do.
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11/28 – al kimeea, Please provide “FACTS” that support your false allegation that SRB is my “hero.”
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Please provide “FACTS” on how much SRB has been Fined so that he may be added to my list.
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I will happily accept your apologies.
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12/10 – al kimeea, did you drop LSD like a bad habit?
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11/28 – Narad, Please provide “FACTS” that support your false allegation that SRB “behaves more unethically” than Big Pharma in that he does things that Big Pharma doesn’t do.
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12/1 – Narad, you really are clueless, aren’t you?
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How would I have been able to provide the links if I did not actually access the actual page(s) with the information I linked to?
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12/2 – Narad, good question. Who are you?
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12/2 – Narad, how old are you? 9?
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Way to ASSUME that i somehow attempted anything “that is supposed to stun people.” Since you obviously have the miraculous power to read my mind, what is the “point that” I” thought “I” had made”?
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12/3- Narad, do you need glasses?
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I’m concerned about your eyesight. Have you considered LASIK?
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Did you see the NCBI NLM NIH gov site link?
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Narad, if you can’t remember what you wrote that I’m replying to, then maybe you’re just writing superfluous material.
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12/6 – Narad, pretty rich coming from someone who has no response to my three 12/4″The Land of the Brave post.”
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12/16 – Narad, You once again have no response to my three 12/4″The Land of the Brave posts.
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11/29 -AdamG, What solar system are you living in?
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11/29 – AdamG, please cite the “FACTS” which buttress your unproven inane statement that “It’s clear that [I] didn’t actually read [your] link.
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I’m not even going to waste my time answering your last question since I answered your question about what planet I live on but you did not answer my question about what solar system you’re from.
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12/1 – AdamG, you have not yet advised me what solar system you are living in.
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11/29 – JGC, please explain how I would have been able to provide the above links without following up on them.
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11/30 – JGC, Please explain to me how & when it became my responsibility to state an opinion re the efficacy of Antineoplastons (not Antineoplastins).
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12/1 – JGC, please cite where I argued that you “should cese (sic) criticizing Burzynski’s clinic and simply wait and see.”
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Should we assign any blame to NIH which was running a clinical trial re Antineoplaston & didn’t complete the trial but published the results of the incomplete trial?
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12/15 – JGC, Have you actually reviewed at least 1 of his Phase I or II Clinical Trials Publications I’ve posted the references too on here in a prior post; “YOU WANT ANSWERS (Part 1)?
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Yes, or No?
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11/29 – Lawrence, “links … don’t say what [I] think they say?” Please cite where I said what the links would say.
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12/1 – Lawrence, when Orac whined that SRB “got off on a technicality,” did you ask him to offer a “real retort” like SRB did not “get off on a technicality,” but he got off because the law is the law?
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12/3 – Lawrence, please enlighten me on how my 2 11/28 posts were proven incorrect, for example.
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12/3 – Lawrence, Once again you have not answered my 12/3 question to you.
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12/15 (12/10 Comments:) – Lawrence, Speaking of “not understanding,” you don’t seem to understand how to answer my question of 12/3 which you haven’t responded to.
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11/29 – herr doktor bimler, where does Chris’ post state “clinical results?”
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12/1 – Peebs, I think we should call Peebs “Peeps.” Do you “see” what I did there?
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12/1 – Chris, please point out where I stated that the PubMeds were “results” & cite which law or regulation requires the information you are requesting.
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12/1 – Chris, why have you not apologized for misstating my argument?
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12/1 – Chris, How many people have posed questions to you today compared to me?
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12/2- Chris, what claim am I making?
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Please cite the claim & date of the post.
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Why do you mistakenly think it’s my responsibility to “show Burzynski is not a quack?”
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Please cite where I have indicated that SRB is or isn’t a quack & the date of the post.
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Why do you mistakenly believe it’s my responsibility to “show Burzynski is legit?”
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Please cite where I have indicated that SRB is or isn’t legit & the date of the post.
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Why should I apologize when you have not apologized for misstating my argument 11/28 as pointed out in my 11/28, 11/29 & 12/1/12 posts?
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I asked you “[h]ow MANY people have posed questions to you” & you were not able to provide a # but just “MANY.” (Emphasis added for ease of reading.)
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Actually, are you having trouble with numbers, especially the concept of the “one?” One, as in a number between zero & infinity.
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In my 12/1 post I asked you to “[P]lease point out where I stated that the PubMeds were “results” & cite which law or regulation requires the information you are requesting,” & you did not, though you posted my question to you; one right after the other, in 2 of your 12/1/12 posts.
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12/2 – Chris, please cite any post(s) & their date which support your misguided attempt at trying to prove that I “could not even be bothered to read the titles to” my “cut and pasta links!” Exactly what are “PASTA links?”
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12/1 – Antaeus Feldspar, your absurd conclusion is that you would rather spend more time & energy re SRB who you have not provided any information as to how much he has been fined, …
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12/3 – Antaeus Feldspar, Please cite the post(s) & their date which you misguidedly think exists, proving that my guru is Stanwey.
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12/15 – Antaeus Feldspar, Are you using the “New Math” where you live?
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12/16 re 15 – Antaeus Feldspar, And your “FACTS” are supported by what unsubstantiated source?
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12/16 re 15 – Antaeus Feldspar, 3. FACT: You have provided NOT one scintilla of evidence that you have read any of the publications noted above in my post to MarkL.
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_____ME:
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12/1 – M. Dawn, I made what claim?
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_____ME:
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12/1 – Marc Stephens Is Insane, did you access the link(s) & information & actually read what it’s about?
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What am I trying to prove that’s unproveable?
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What was Orac’s motivation for writing his comments on:
12/5/11 “[D]espite all of the attempts of Dr. Burzynski and supporters to portray them otherwise antineoplastons are chemotherapy…” &
12/12/11 “Why do his supporters (and, let’s be honest, Dr. Burzynski himself) portray his therapy as “nontoxic” and “not chemotherapy…” &
1/20/12 “…contrary to Dr. Burzynski’s claim that he doesn’t use chemotherapy…”
though my post indicates this is not the case since at least the book 11/1/2006.
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12/2 – Marc Stephens Is Insane, please provide FACTUAL proof to prop up your deluded statement that “I guess Didy didn’t bother to read those information sheets either.”
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12/2- Marc Stephens Is Insane. please cite any post(s) & their date which support your misguided allegation that I am “spending so much time defending Stan.”
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12/2 – Shay, please cite any post(s) & their dates which “shredded whatever” I’ve “managed to produce” where I have not responded to their alleged “FACTS.”
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Please cite any post(s) & their dates which support your allegation that I’ve “demonstrated that” I’m “doing a quick copy/paste without bothering to check the articles” I’m “citing to see if they support” my “claims.”
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12.15 – Shay, don’t know how to # them? Too difficult?
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_____ME: MarkL thinks “RESULTS” = Clinical Results.
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11/29
MarkL
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November 29, 2012
Diddums, you said:
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“herr doktor bimler, where does Chris’ post state “clinical results?” It states “clinical.”
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Lets look at what Chris said:
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“Tell me the title, date and journal of the PubMed indexed paper where the RESULTS of those clinical are published. Then tell us why the one Phase 3 clinical trial is not allowing participants.”
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To make it easy I have capitalized the relevant word in Chris’s request.
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Still having difficulty Diddums?
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We will await the data.
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12/2 – MarkL, please cite any post(s) & their dates that buttress your misguided belief that I “claimed that” I was “not asked for results.”
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12/3 – MarkL, who famously has no FACTS to support his position: “MarkL, please cite any post(s) & their dates that buttress your misguided belief that I “claimed that” I was “not asked for results.”
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12/3 – MarkL, I just think it pointless to argue with a LIAR who has no reply for “MarkL, please cite any post(s) & their dates that buttress your misguided belief that I “claimed that” I was “not asked for results.” You LIE when you write that I am “a Burzynski fanboy” as you have not one iota of evidence in support of that: because i dont live in the same State as him, have never met him, have never communicated with him, don’t personally know anyone who has met him, and have never received anything from him. Who LIES when he writes that I am one “who ignores any request for even the smallest sliver of evidence that the object of his perverse support is anything other than a con man” since you don’t have a scintilla of evidence that I support SRB or in the least exhibit perverse support for him or “yet continues to post advertorials and puff pieces” which is another LIE as I was the one who pointed out on 11/30/12 the Internet search on “Antineoplastons” “a form of chemotherapy” displays a google 2006 books link re “Get Healthy Now” (pg. 575) where SRB indicates that Antineoplastons are a form of chemotherapy…’ & pointed out “Orac writes: “[D]espite all of the attempts of Dr. Burzynski and supporters to portray them otherwise antineoplastons are chemotherapy…” and you LIE when you post that my information is “from dubious sources as “proof” that the maverick doctor deserves other than ridicule and condemnation.” You cite not 1 dubious source & you also conveniently do not point out that I’m the one who pointed out on 11/30/12 the National Cancer Institute at the National Institutes of Health & American Caner Society had information re Antineoplatons & SRB, thusly proving the last sentence of your post to also be a LIE.
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_____ME: MarkL thinks “RESULTS” = Clinical Results, AGAIN!
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12/4 – MarkL.
London
December 4, 2012
Diddums,
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In answer to your pathetic evasion:
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Diddums, you said:
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“herr doktor bimler, where does Chris’ post state “clinical results?” It states “clinical.”
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Lets look at what Chris said:
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“Tell me the title, date and journal of the PubMed indexed paper where the RESULTS of those clinical are published. Then tell us why the one Phase 3 clinical trial is not allowing participants.”
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To make it easy I have capitalized the relevant word in Chris’s request.
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Still having difficulty Diddums?
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We will await the data.
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_____ME: We KNOW who the LIAR is!!
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12/15
MarkL
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London
December 15, 2012
More red herrings and bullshit from diddums.
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Yet again you attempt to use sophistry rather than provide the information necessary to support your argument. Phase III trials do not depend on proving efficacy in phase II trials.
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Either you are a liar or you are a moron. In either case, you are WRONG.
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12/15 – MarkL, I can’t help it if you can’t read.
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So you expect me to believe that you have read at least 1 of his Phase I or II Clinical Trial Publications?
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Yes, or No?

12/15 – MarkL, Do you work for Scotland Yard?
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Have you read all the Phase I & II Clinical Trials Publications?
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Yes, or No?
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12/16 re 15 – MarkL

2006 – in 4 PHASE 2 trials
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/16484713/Targeted_therapy_with_antineoplastons_A10_and_AS2_1_of_high_grade__recurrent__and_progressive_brainstem_glioma

And yet you have NOT provided yany indication that you made any effort whatsoever to access the web-site & purchase the publications.
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12/3 – Science Mom, so you still refuse to cite which post(s) & their date applies to this “claim” you keep referring to but for some reason can’t cite.
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_____ME:
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12/3 – W. Kevin Vicklund, you’re the one who asked: “Whose ass did you pull that number out of?” Didn’t you feel it come out of you right after you realized what a stupid question that was to posit in that manner?
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_____ME:
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12/8 – flip. See my 12/4 response to: “Lawrence, read between the lines.”
Have you ever considered that maybe you’re posting too much garbage if you need to scroll up to remember what you posted?
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12/15 – flip, too busy reading Jesse Ventura’s Book: “Conspiracy Theory?”
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_____ME:
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12/12 – LW, No cites

12/15 – LW, where did I mention a “Conspiracy” other than to post that flip & Orac were possibly “Conspiracy Theorists?”
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12/16 – LW, And you have researched this & have Scientific data to support your non-supported statement, or are you just another one of the laggards on this blog?
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LW, And where is your Scientific data to buttress your unsupported babble?
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Or are you just continuing your uncorroborated flatulence from above?
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_____ME:
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12/15 – Alain, are you indicating you have read an SRB Phase I or Phase II Clinical Trial Publication?
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Yes, or No?
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_____ME:
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12/15 – Bronze Dog, why have you not read the test results?
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I don’t care if you think it’s a Clinical Trial Publication or not. or hear that like Orac you don’t want to pay for a movie, or a publication, I just want to know if you took the effort to read at least 1, YES, or NO.
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And NO, you don’t need to reply for other people who should reply for themselves.

The frequent pairing of the “bill of goods” line with the “a bunch of Diddums” one suggests that this NYT item might be worth a look, but I’m not a subscriber. It all seems to go back to the 1975 MIT appearance.

Man, I need some more popcorn, djt’s latest self-humiliation and embarrassment made for some good entertainment.

12/17 Comments:
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_____KrezBLOGdim,
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“Just the one troll, sorry “Troll”, I’d say. Posting vast amounts of mostly irrelevant verbiage to multiple threads on a blog is considered trolling, and is annoying and rude besides. You might try posting a small apposite passage and linking to the source.”

_____ME:
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If someone’s going to re-post GIGO, then I’m going to comment on it.
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______KrezBLOGation,
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“Is there any purpose to this blathering? Do you even understand what tu quoque means?”
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_____ME:
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It’s called “FACTS” & Citations, which are something which are obviously foreign to a lot of the “Tu-Quackers” on here.
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Do you even understand what “Tu-Quack,” “Tu-Quacker,” & “Tu-Quacking” means?
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_____KreBLOG,
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“Maybe you could resubmit that sentence in FORTRAN as it appears to be COBOLlocks. The person who needs to answer the tough questions is Burzynski. He is the one using clinical trials as a loophole to treat patients with an unapproved drug and charging then large amounts of money.”
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_____ME:
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Yeah, I’ll get right on that FORTRANslation, just as soon as the Tu-QuackerGenerNation grows some COBOLs & stops posting NON-FACTUAL GIGO; backed up by NO citations from other sources, about unapproved drugs which the FDA has approved for use in Clinical Trials & which patients are paying for along the same rates as for other cancer treatments.
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_____LW,
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December 17, 2012
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“DJT’s droppings really aren’t doing Burzynski a lot of good. Putting together the numbers of patients Burzynski had “treated” by 1997, with the testimony of Dr. Patronas, the radiologist, in 1993, I reach this conclusion:”
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“Between 1977 and 1997, Burzynski “treated” some three thousand patients, or about 150 per year. Thus we can estimate that between 1977 and 1993, he “treated” 2,400 patients. Out of those 2,400, those described by Dr. Patronas are presumably his seven best cases. And one died and another did not respond. So the results Burzynski presented appear to indicate that five out of 2,400 — a little over 0.2% — went into remission. That’s ever so impressive.”
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_____ME: says the person who thinks 7 minus 5 = 0.2%!
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Dr. Patronas, the radiologist, said he was not aware that these tumors ever underwent spontaneous remission. But would he know if the rate were as low as, say 0.2%?
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_____ME: Says the person who cites that Harvard report but ignores the part of it which has:
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Note: 50 “Only approximately 300 of what were formerly thousands of patients are allowed to be treated currently under very close FDA scrutiny”
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So we’re supposed to believe that they were under “close FDA scrutiny” & the FDA allowed your proposition.
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But then again, this is the government which was allowing NIH to do their xperimental protocol “where we inject a chemotherapeutic agent through the carotid artery, the artery that goes to the brain, and we have three survivals with this technique, by providing massive amounts of chemotherapeutic drugs to the brain that harbors the tumor. And we destroy the tumor, but we destroy a large part of the brain as well, and the patients became severely handicapped , and a life that’s not worth living.”
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_____flip,
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December 17, 2012
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“.. I’m getting close to thinking that Squidymus is a Poe. Surely this is just getting too ridiculous?”
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_____ME: And I’m getting close to thinking that flipperpuss is an Edgar Allan Poe, since these flipRants sound like the ramblings of a drug user!
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_____LW,
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December 17, 2012
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“By the way, DJT, just FYI: Galileo was born in 1564. The Magellan expedition returned from circumnavigating the globe in 1522. That is 42 years before Galileo was born. It would have been rather trivial for Galileo to prove that the Earth was round and the one could circumnavigate it, and rather ludicrous for the Church to persecute him for saying so.”
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_____ME: Says the person who ignores the “FACT” that my 12/8 post had: “Galileo – the Earth is round.”
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And therefor I did not indicate that Galileo was trying “to prove that the Earth was round.”
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_____LW,
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December 17, 2012
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“I think it’s a barely literate fifteen-year-old that thinks it’s showing off how good it is with Google.”
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_____ME: Posts the person who started posting GIGO on this particular blog on 12/12!!
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Which begs the question of your age & if you even know what bing, Safari, Mercury, yahoo, IMDB & Multisearch are.

Which begs the question of your age & if you even know what bing, Safari, Mercury, yahoo, IMDB & Multisearch are.

Holy f*ck.

iDJiT denies claiming that Galileo was persecuted for claiming the Earth is round. So I searched for the word Galileo on this page.

Here is iDJiT on Dec 8:

Yep, we know Science picks sides from:
Galileo – the Earth is round.
Ignaz Semmelweis – wash your hands between the time you deliver a baby & do an autopsy & deliver a baby, unless you like sending people “Down Under.”

Clearly iDJiT was drawing a parallel between Semmelweis’ saying physicians should wash their hands, and Galileo’s fantasized saying that the Earth is round.

No one mentioned the name Galileo again until iDJiT on Dec 11:

I wonder if Galileo ever let FACTS get in the way of SCIENCE? (Or Orac?)

Still no one mentioned Galileo until iDJiT on Dec 15:

Mephistopheles O’Brien, the other day I went back in a Time Machine & met a guy who said his name was Galileo & he said the Earth was Round.
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It looked flat to me. There was water around, Galileo said I could sail around the World for $150,000. I asked if his ship was safe; he said it was. I asked to see his test protocols and results to see if it was more likely I’d arrive safely, die on impact, or be flung into the abyss; he said it was effective but would not produce the data I looked for.
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Should I, or should I not, tell others that there’s no proof that this man’s protocol is safe and effective?
[various drivel and insults omitted]
There’s no doubt in my mind that if you were alive when Galileo was around, you would’ve been clamoring that he was a “Heritic” & should be burned at the stake because he hath no Clinical Trials that I can see because I can’t bother myself to look, I am like a balloon full of hot air, sallying forth on the currents of the wind, yammering on a out HTML, WordPress,

There is no other way of reading this than a comparison between Galileo’s fantasized claim that the Earth is round and his fantasized inability to prove it, versus Burzynski’s real claim of being able to cure cancer and his real inability to prove it.

Face it, iDJiT, you said it and we all know it.

For those who may have missed it, here’s how to compute the survival rate if five survive out of seven, the iDJiT way:

If you had 7 patients you could call that: 70%.
5 successful patients would then be: 50%
Change 70% to: 100% (by adding 30%)
Change 50% to: 80% (by adding 30%)
80% minus 100% = 20%
So 20 deaths out of 100 = 80% survival rate.

I am not joking.

@ LW,

Something doesn’t compute with your rendition of DidySquat math (and he’s far from computing itself) but perhaps I can blame that on my flu (which I’m treating with gin, honey and lemon juice) but….you jump from percentages to absolute numbers and even the percentages look iffy; how did you come up with these numbers from DidySquat’s posts?

Alain

Alain, your flu is not to blame. I kid you not, that “computation” is in blockquote because I copied it from one of the iDJiT’s droppings over on the “Stanislaw Burzynski: “Personalized gene-targeted cancer therapy” for dummies” post.

I suppose that a pedantic type might also note that not only is the foregoing not what “begs the question” means, it’s not even really an example of the idiomatic misuse.

12/17 Comments:
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______LW,
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“@DJT:”“A: Yes, it was when Michael Hawkins from NCI asked me to join a group of other physicians and scientist and come to Houston on a site visit to Dr. Burzynski’s Institute in order to assess the BEST CASE SCENARIO that he had to present us of his patients who were treated with antineoplastons.” (pg. 116)”
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“Yep, cherry-picked, best cases out of something like 2,400 patients, and he still couldn’t come up with seven *survivors*.”
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“I don’t think DJT can reason at all.”
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_____ME: And here I was thinking you couldn’t restate the obvious!
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Yet you did!!
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_____Mephistopheles O’Brien
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December 17, 2012
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.Your last message – a string of juvenile abusive comments – was entirely uncalled for.”
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_____ME:
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Says the person who pops on this particular blog on 12/15 out of nowhere, posting:
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_____”Burzyinski has claimed that he can cure cancer more reliably and with fewer side effects than the current standard of care. If he can do it – great. He needs to prove it. But just because I cannot do what he claims to be able to do doesn’t mean I should keep silent about his inability to prove his claims.”
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Citing no “SOURCE” to back up such claims, no indication that you’ve reviewed any of the Clinical Trail publications, citing no law or regulation you’re relying on, no indication that you’ve reviewed CFR 21 (Title 21), Chapter I, Subchapter F, re Confidentiality of certain data, Confidential Trade Secret data, Confidential Commercial data, Confidential Business data, Confidential Exemptions, or offering any explanation as to why the FDA authorized Phase II & Phase III Clinical Trials if SRB was not providing the data that is required by law or regulation.
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_____”In particular, I have no idea what your comment Says the Dungeons and Dragons character in their “Computer-Generated Fantasy World.” refers to or is supposed to mean. I suppose you’re trying to taunt me in some way; I cannot find anything I’ve said that this would appear to relate to.”
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seriously? Seriously?? SERIOUSLY???
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In the Dungeons & Dragons role-playing game, Mephistopheles is an Arch-Devil of Hell.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephistopheles_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)
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_____”I find your ability to be abusive while agreeing to the facts remarkable.”
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Thank you!
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_____LW,

December 17, 2012
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“@Mephistopheles O’Brien: I don’t think we’re dealing with an adult. Its abuse is juvenile because *it* is a juvenile.”
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_____ME: Says the person who congratulates flip for GIGO flip plagiarized from other sources & admitted it after being praised for it!
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Do you really, actually expect me to take you seriously when you post anything on here that’s supposed to be factual???
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_____Mephistopheles O’Brien

December 17, 2012
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LW has been remarkably patient in trying to explain your own references to you, so you might try actually reading what LW tells you for comprehension. You might learn which arguments you make are worthwhile, which are contradicted by fact, and which are logically inconsistent.
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______ME: Whilst no reliable source is cited.
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Nice try, but I didn’t fall off the turnip truck.
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______LW,

December 17, 2012
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“Krebiozen has been extremely patient and he is much more knowledgeable than I am. I was very interested in his explanation of the medical reports. It was most clear and informative.”
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______ME: Yet can’t figure out if this contain Clinical Trial data:
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2006 – Targeted therapy with antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 of high-grade, recurrent, & progressive brainstem glioma.

Stanislaw R Burzynski, Tomasz J Janicki, … Barbara Burzynski
Burzynski SR, Janicki TJ, Weaver RA, Burzynski B.
Journal
Integr Cancer Ther. 2006 Mar;5(1):40-7.
Integr Cancer Ther 5(1):40-7 (2006), PMID .16484713

in 4 PHASE 2 trials

DOI: 10.1177/1534735405285380
http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/16484713/Targeted_therapy_with_antineoplastons_A10_and_AS2_1_of_high_grade__recurrent__and_progressive_brainstem_glioma

http:// www. ncbi. nlm. nih. gov/m/pubmed/16484713

“I don’t think DJT can reason at all.”
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_____ME: And here I was thinking you couldn’t restate the obvious!

I guess that takes care of that.

_____”Burzyinski has claimed that he can cure cancer more reliably and with fewer side effects than the current standard of care. If he can do it – great. He needs to prove it. But just because I cannot do what he claims to be able to do doesn’t mean I should keep silent about his inability to prove his claims.”

Citing no “SOURCE” to back up such claims, no indication that you’ve reviewed any of the Clinical Trail publications, citing no law or regulation you’re relying on, no indication that you’ve reviewed CFR 21 (Title 21), Chapter I, Subchapter F [blah, blah, blah]

More pretend-lawyer “HILARITY.” Leaving aside the fact that this response is … well, not responsive, 21 CFR 600 has no bearing on anything except for the fact that Burzynski was boned for inadequate GMP.

Citing no “SOURCE” to back up such claims, no indication that you’ve reviewed any of the Clinical Trail publications, citing no law or regulation you’re relying on, no indication that you’ve reviewed CFR 21 (Title 21), Chapter I, Subchapter F, re Confidentiality of certain data, Confidential Trade Secret data, Confidential Commercial data, Confidential Business data, Confidential Exemptions, or offering any explanation as to why the FDA authorized Phase II & Phase III Clinical Trials if SRB was not providing the data that is required by law or regulation.

Dude, really? According to the Burzinsky Research Institute’s web site’s descriptions of antineoplastons, “Dr. Burzynski believes these substances counteract the development of cancerous growth through a biochemical process which does not inhibit the growth of normal tissues.” They also claim to be producing “targeted gene therapies (antineoplastons or ANP) for the treatment of cancer.” This certainly sounds like they’re saying they have fewer side effects. The fact that they are trying to introduce a new set of drugs to the market certainly suggests they believe those treatments are more effective, safer, or both than the current standard of care.

I can’t imagine how you found a request for evidence of effectiveness and safety to be so offensive. It’s nothing I wouldn’t ask of any other drug. They have not yet proven that the drug is effective or safe (which at the very least is the position of the NCI based on the site you conveniently provided) – indeed, several patients left the trials due to toxicity issues (once again, see the NCI link).

And I never claimed that Burzynsky did not provide the data required in order to have his phase III protocols approved (when will those trials open again?), merely that he did not provide sufficient data to show that the treatment is safe and effective.

Mephistopheles is an Arch-Devil of Hell.

Well, yes, I knew that. So, what, you think to taunt me for my choice of ‘nym (no, I won’t pretend that’s my given name)? Was there a point there?

12/17 Comments:
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_____JGC,
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December 17, 2012
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JGC, just because you don’t want to do the research, doesn’t mean it’s not been done. Have you actually reviewed at least 1 of his Phase I or II Clinical Trials Publications I’ve posted the references too on here in a prior post“YOU WANT ANSWERS (Part 1)?

“You want answers part 1 doesn’t offer references to published Phase I or Phase II clinical trial results: instead the citations are to review articles, abstracts from poster sessions, etc.”
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_____ME: So are you indicating that you have reviewed 1 or more of these 10 publications & none contain Clinical Trial data?
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And if that is what you are claiming, can you explain how it is that the FDA approved Phase II & III Clinical Trials without the data they required?
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1. 2006 – Targeted therapy with antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 of high-grade, recurrent, & progressive brainstem glioma.
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in 4 PHASE 2 trials
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/16484713/Targeted_therapy_with_antineoplastons_A10_and_AS2_1_of_high_grade__recurrent__and_progressive_brainstem_glioma
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2. 2006 – Treatments for astrocytic tumors in children: current & emerging strategies.

CLINICAL TRIALS…

http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/16774296/Treatments_for_astrocytic_tumors_in_children__current_and_emerging_strategies
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3. 2005 – Long-term survival of high-risk pediatric patients with primitive neuroectodermal tumors treated with antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1.
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…were treated in PHASE II studies…

http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/15911929/Long_term_survival_of_high_risk_pediatric_patients_with_primitive_neuroectodermal_tumors_treated_with_antineoplastons_A10_and_AS2_1
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4. 2004 – Long-term survival and complete response of a patient with recurrent diffuse intrinsic brain stem glioblastoma multiforme.
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These TRIALS…
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/15312271/Long_term_survival_and_complete_response_of_a_patient_with_recurrent_diffuse_intrinsic_brain_stem_glioblastoma_multiforme
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5. 2004 – PHASE II study…
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/15563234/Phase_II_study_of_antineoplaston_A10_and_AS2_1_in_children_with_recurrent_and_progressive_multicentric_glioma___a_preliminary_report
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6. 2003 – PHASE II study…

A PHASE II study…

http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/12718563/Phase_II_study_of_antineoplaston_A10_and_AS2_1_in_patients_with_recurrent_diffuse_intrinsic_brain_stem_glioma__a_preliminary_report
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7. 1990 – Treatment of hormonally refractory cancer of the prostate with antineoplaston AS2-1.
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The present study describes the results of treatment… in PHASE II CLINICAL TRIALS…
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/2152694/Treatment_of_hormonally_refractory_cancer_of_the_prostate_with_antineoplaston_AS2_1
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8. 1987 – PHASE I CLINICAL STUDIES…

CLINICAL TRIALS described in this paper…

http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/3569014/Phase_I_clinical_studies_of_antineoplaston_A5_injections
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9. 1987 – PHASE I CLINICAL STUDIES…

…was submitted for PHASE II CLINICAL STUDIES…

http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/3569012/Phase_I_clinical_studies_of_antineoplaston_A3_injections
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10. 1987 – Initial CLINICAL STUDY…with 5 years’ follow-up.
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This paper describes PHASE I CLINICAL STUDIES…
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/3569010/Initial_clinical_study_with_antineoplaston_A2_injections_in_cancer_patients_with_five_years__follow_up

So are you indicating that you have reviewed 1 or more of these 10 publications

I believe that everyone is well familiarized with the numbered list that apparently keeps you glued together.

Keep posting djt, the more you post here, the less you post to your vulnerable marks.

And also, your stupidity is soooo amusing. I just may need another bag of popcorn to watch this.

12/17 Comments:
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_____JGC,
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“JGC, where has the test results not been published?”
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“Burzynski hasn’t published the results of the trials he’s supposedly been running for the last 2 decades anywhere that I can determine.”
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“DJT, let me lake this as easy as possible for you: where can I find published reprot of the Phase II clinical study you believe argues most strongly for the safety and efficacy of antineoplastons as a treatment for advanced stage cancer?”
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“I’m asking for just one citation of just one clinical trial report of a Phase II clinical antineoplaston trial completed by Burzynski sometime in the past 20 years. He’s initiated over 60–surely one of them has yielded usuable results?”
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_____ME: JGC, if you are going to claim that none of those publications contains Clinical Trial data, & that the 2/29/2012 10-K filing with the SEC doesn’t support the Clinical Trial data for legal purposes:
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2/29/2012 Form 10-K, fiscal year ended:
www. sec. gov/Archives/edgar/data/724445/000110465912040430/a12-12972_110k.htm
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Anyone who has a problem with that might need to review:
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2002 – Use of the best case series to evaluate complementary and alternative therapies for cancer: a systematic review
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Richard L Nahin
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Semin Oncol 29(6):552-62 (2002), PMID .12516038
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Despite these general deficiencies, 4 BCS (antineoplastons…) were sufficiently convincing to warrant follow-up clinical trials.
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DOI:10.1053/sonc.2002.50004
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/12516038/Use_of_the_best_case_series_to_evaluate_complementary_and_alternative_therapies_for_cancer__a_systematic_review
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http:// www. ncbi. nlm. nih. gov/m/pubmed/12516038
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London
December 17, 2012
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“If diddums can’t perhaps find that information, perhaps he can find published clinical trials results for the efficacy of antineoplastons for the treatment of HIV or Parkinson’s, the previous two diseases the brave maverick was 100% sure he was able to cure with “his invention”.”
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“Antineoplaston, the medicine in search of a disease.”
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_____ME: Says the person who lost any CREDIBILITY whatsoever that they might have had, on 12/3.
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MarkL, in search of the next LIE???

Round and round we go….

Didy, if I took 2400 classes, and 2 out of my 7 best grades were B’s, what percent of courses did I get an A in?

12/17 Comments:
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_____LW,

December 17, 2012
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“Don’t miss DJT’s latest droppings over on the “Stanislaw Burzynski: “Personalized gene-targeted cancer therapy” for dummies” post. Here’s how to compute the survival rate if five survive out of seven: ”
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“If you had 7 patients you could call that: 70%.
5 successful patients would then be: 50%
Change 70% to: 100% (by adding 30%)
Change 50% to: 80% (by adding 30%)
80% minus 100% = 20%
So 20 deaths out of 100 = 80% survival rate.”
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“This may be better than “Galileo was persecuted for saying the Earth was round.””

_____ME: Or they can go with you trying to beat out Senator Arlen Specter & his JFK “Magic Bullet” theory as the most ridiculous theory, with your 7 minus 5 = 0.02% theory!
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And they can stay right here for that!!
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December 17, 2012
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“LW,
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So the results Burzynski presented appear to indicate that five out of 2,400 — a little over 0.2% — went into remission.
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_____ME: You SERIOUSLY need to check your “New Math!”
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“That’s a good point. The other thing to bear in mind is that these patients had all had conventional treatment previously. Some people are late responders to chemotherapy and radiotherapy, sometimes not showing clear signs of improvement until 12 weeks after treatment.”
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_____ME: Yeah, this Doctor & the other 5 members of the FDA must have not had any reliable educational experience & work experience, so we should go with what you think because you weren’t there & therefor, you must know more than they did.
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And while your at it, go ahead swear to that in Court & send off for that Exhibit mentioned in the Testimony.
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“I see that Dr. Patronas wrote:”
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“I’m not aware that spontaneous remission occurs; I don’t think it does.”
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“He was mistaken. This review of the literature found over 6,000 cases, 4 of them brain tumor cases. It reports that about 20 cases of spontaneous remission are reported every year, but many more undoubtedly go unreported. A brief review of PubMed and Google Scholar comes up with several case studies of spontaneous regression and remission of gliomas and astrocytomas. It’s rare but by no means unknown.”
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_____ME: Great! We can all go home now!!
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And how many of these were pre-1993?
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“The bottom line is that only Phase 3 clinical trials can tell us if Burzynski’s treatment really works.”
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______ME: Well, there’s something we can agree on though I question how it is that the Gub-ment let lesser tested cancer drugs through the Express Phase II process & are requiring radiation as part of the Phase III Trials.
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December 17, 2012
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“@LW
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Re: Diddum’s mathematical expertise
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Isn’t that the most spectacular self-destruct you have seen here?
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I wonder what his next gambit will be (if, indeed, there is one)? I predict a new pseudo-identity at least!”
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_____ME: Yeah, let’s go with your “Magic Bullet” Theory!
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_____flip,
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December 17, 2012
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“@LW
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I think it’s a barely literate fifteen-year-old that thinks it’s showing off how good it is with Google.
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Either that or someone who thinks that reading a few books is the same as being educated in medicine.
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He seems fixated on conspiracy theorists without realising what the F one looks like.
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@Mark L
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If diddums can’t perhaps find that information, perhaps he can find published clinical trials results for the efficacy of antineoplastons for the treatment of HIV or Parkinson’s, the previous two diseases the brave maverick was 100% sure he was able to cure with “his invention”.
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Antineoplastons, the medicine in search of a disease.
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Or even supplying evidence that it works as an anti-aging product.
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_____ME: Definitely, let’s go with you & your group of “Geniuses” instead of people like Dr. James Watson, discoverer of DNA & involved in the Human Genome Mapping Project.
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Your experience is absolutely more “credible” than his!!

Watson didn’t discover DNA. He also never said the quote you’ve attributed to him, unless you’re able to prove otherwise.

While you’re at it:
If I took 2400 classes, and 2 out of my 7 best grades were B’s, what percent of courses did I get an A in?

The amazingly tedious halfwit besmirching the name Didymus Judas Thomas keeps switching threads, so for the benefit of any new lurkers who wonder why the numbers 5, 7, 0.2%, and 2400, keep being mentioned, here are the assumptions and conclusions I used to get the number 0.2%, from the other thread:

1) By 1993 Burzynski had treated approximately 2400 patients.

2) Burzynski needed to produce seven “best case scenario” patients.

3) a patient that survives is a better “best case scenario” that a patient who died of the disease.

4) Therefore Burzynski would produce seven patients who survived if he could.

5) Burzynski produced only five patients who survived, and two who did not.

6) Therefore Burzynski could not produce more than five patients who survived.

7) Therefore no more than five patients out of approximately 2400 actually survived.

8 ) 5/2400 is approximately 0.00208, rounded to 0.2%.

Now you can argue that there were more survivors but Burzynski had no records for them, but that is a condemnation of Burzynski in itself.

You can also argue that there were more survivors but they refused to consent to release of their records, but why would they do that? We’re supposed to believe that they believed they owed their lives to him. Why wouldn’t they consent to release of their records to save his license so he could save more patients like them?

So, as I finished before, what other reason is there for Burzynski not to produce seven patients who survived, out of thousands treated?

_____ME: JGC, if you are going to claim that none of those publications contains Clinical Trial data, & that the 2/29/2012 10-K filing with the SEC doesn’t support the Clinical Trial data for legal purposes:

I could swear that I’ve pointed out that this entire line of babbling would collapse if it actually had something to land on to start with.

@Orac

I know it’s hard to follow this thread, but you let some real actual spam through… Might want to delete that post.

Watson didn’t discover DNA. He also never said the quote you’ve attributed to him, unless you’re able to prove otherwise.

Given that Squidymus has previously touted the elephantine orchitis (tinEO) that allowed him to personally contact Merola, which was no doubt a regular Plateau Sigma sort of endeavor, perhaps he could hoist things up and drop a query to Cold Spring.

@Squidymus

And I’m getting close to thinking that flipperpuss is an Edgar Allan Poe, since these flipRants sound like the ramblings of a drug user!

Mmmmm, someone hasn’t figured out how to google ‘Poe’ yet…. Or what satire is.

I find it interesting that people assume ‘flip’ is short for flippant. It’s not. It’s a character from a play; consider flip to be of the surfing dude variety.

But you know, it’s also good for showing cranks for what they really are. People who like to fill in the blanks with their own assumptions.

Your experience is absolutely more “credible” than his!!

Keep building that strawman honey, you’ve almost reached the moon with that one.

Definitely, let’s go with you & your group of “Geniuses” instead of people like Dr. James Watson, discoverer of DNA & involved in the Human Genome Mapping Project.

Oh, so Dr James Watson has some peer-reviewed papers published showing the efficacy and safety of antineoplastons? If so, I’ll definitely look at the link for that. And if not, well, he’s pretty much irrelevant to the issue of Burzyinski and his trials, isn’t he?

I think I need to bring back the generator; or at the very least, continue to use Captain Haddock insults. And with that, I add the appropriate cry of…. “Abecedarian!”

@Narad

Which begs the question of your age & if you even know what bing, Safari, Mercury, yahoo, IMDB & Multisearch are.

Holy f*ck.

Exactly what I was thinking. Heck, I’m a few decades, at least, younger than most of the regulars here. And yet, somehow I doubt Squidymus knows what Netscape is. Or what a dongle looks like. And I know even both of those things are pretty ‘new’ in the scheme of IT development. Which is to say nothing of course of the obvious talents of various coders of such regulars as yourself. One truly wonders how old Squidy is.

I could swear that I’ve pointed out that this entire line of babbling would collapse if it actually had something to land on to start with.

He does have a certain supernova quality to his posts…

… Does Squidymus think that simply posting the citations is enough? Maybe this little troll has only gotten far enough in their education to have recently been taught about bibliographies, and hasn’t worked out that you can’t just add citations at will – they have to actually back up your statements.

I’m so glad I brought my jumbo-sized popcorn. Looks like we’ll be here for a while 😉

I regret to report that I actually still have a PCI dongle on the premises. It’s a long story.

I still think the iDJiT is about fifteen and just started doing debate. In my one year of debate, we would run into these types who thought that debate consisted of quoting from authorities.

Surprisingly often, debaters would quote authority A to say fact F is true and later authority B to say fact F is false. I would argue that fact F cannot be both true and false so their argument was incoherent, and they would respond that I had not defeated their point since I had not quoted an authority to say that fact F cannot be both true and false. I never could get them to grasp that you don’t need authority to support simple logic. Fortunately judges understood that, which is why we won so often.

The iDJiT similarly demands authority for simple division, mere questions, and elementary logical deductions.

you can’t just add citations at will – they have to actually back up your statements.

It also helps to actually aver some statements

@Diddums

Definitely, let’s go with you & your group of “Geniuses” instead of people like Dr. James Watson, discoverer of DNA & involved in the Human Genome Mapping Project.
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Your experience is absolutely more “credible” than his!!

Oh boy, I am losing the will to live (but I am guessing that that is diddums aim). It is like watching one of the lesser primates in a zoo lose its temper and start to fling its own feces around the cage.

How are Watson’s oft quoted (but never accurately sourced) words supposed to show support for the brave fraud? How do they pertain to your argument in support of the brave maverick?

SEC filings as clinical evidence? hahahaha – sure, in the same way Crick, Wilkins and Watson won the Nobel prize after their 1953 tax returns proved the double helix theory.

*facepalm*

You don’t get it do you? Even if you post links to every single document Stan has produced from the time he started high school, they will not be evidence of efficacy. ONLY the full results from some his 60+ phase II trials can start to provide such evidence. Anything else is just so much wilted word salad and irrelevant.

KreBLOGintent:
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_____”What specifically has Orac said that isn’t factually true?”
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_____ME:
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As an individual with an inquisitive brain, the first thing I noticed about Orac’s “REVIEW” is that it has the definite air of having been cherry-picked.
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I’ve never been shy about letting readers know exactly what I think of certain biased “Cherry-Picking” “reviews.”

Saying that something is “cherry-picked” doesn’t mean it isn’t factually true.

An example of cherry-picking would be boasting about what a good shot is by saying “Why, the other day at the range, he put a round right in the dead center of the bullseye!” That might be totally factually true but if it was only one of 500 rounds fired and it was the only round that actually hit the target, talking only about that one round and not the others is cherry-picking.

Note that it’s not always “cherry-picking” to examine a small set out of a much larger set. If Person A says “This principle always holds true!” and Person B wants to show that the principle doesn’t always hold true, it’s perfectly legitimate for Person B to show a counter-example. If Person A wants to say “this bowl will hold the liquid we pour into it,” it’s not cherry-picking for Person B to point out one spot that has a hole.

When someone comes out and makes an extraordinary claim such as “I have a cure for cancer that’s superior to everything else currently in use!” it’s not enough for them to prove most elements of their claim. They must prove all elements of their claim. If someone comes along and points out a place where their claim falls apart, it doesn’t mean the person doing the pointing out is “cherry-picking”; it means the person making the claim shouldn’t have made such an extravagant claim without solid evidence.

_____Orac:
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“…I have to wonder whether Dr. Burzynski just hired Merola to make an infomercial”
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” Merola claims the movie was his idea, but I have a hard time believing it.”
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_____Orac, who attaches an article to his blog where Merola clearly states his motivation, and it WASN’T being hired by SRB!!

Diddums seems to be attempting the following sorites:
1) No one, even people taking dishonest actions, ever offers dishonest accounts of why they took those actions.
2) Merola claimed a totally aboveboard motivation for making his Burzynski infomercial.
3) Therefore Merola’s motivation for making his Burzynski infomercial was totally aboveboard.
4) Orac does not believe that Merola’s motivation for making his Burzynski infomercial was totally aboveboard.
5) Therefore, Orac is completely ignorant and all his testimony is impeached.
The problem is of course that premise 1 is bull-doots, and therefore there’s no logical force to any part of the argument.

12/17 Comments:
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_____flip,

“This should be interesting…”
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_____ME: If only it weren’t coming from a 15 year-old!
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December 17, 2012
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“@DJT
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Do I just have to keep making common-sense comments, or do I have to include something special?”
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_____”Where have you offered ANY common-sense comments?”
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“That answers that question. Evidently I have to include something super special.”
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“Squidymus, you thundering nincompoop, at Burzyinski, we realize how to strategize cyber-holistically. We apply the proverb “You cannot have your cake and eat it too” not only to our raw bandwidth management but our aptitude to grow. Your budget for incubating should be at least twice your budget for disintermediating. The capacity to innovate virally leads to the aptitude to transition compellingly. Quick: do you have a e-business game plan for monitoring new cross-media, customer-defined data hygiene reports? We invariably revolutionize C2C2B reporting. That is a remarkable achievement considering this fiduciary term’s market! The metrics for sexy distributed data hygiene are more well-understood if they are not best-of-breed, C2C2C. What do we streamline? Anything and everything, regardless of semidarkness! We will regenerate our capacity to productize without reducing our power to harness. Your budget for expediting should be at least one-tenth of your budget for reinventing. We often engineer killer returns-on-investment. That is a remarkable achievement considering this year’s cycle!”
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“Burzyinski practically invented the term “TQM”. The metrics for data hygiene are more well-understood if they are not cross-media. What does the industry jargon “bleeding-edge” really mean? Think nano-ubiquitous. Is it more important for something to be .60/60/24/7/365 or to be client-focused? The metrics for metrics are more well-understood if they are not mission-critical. Do you have a game plan to become virally-distributed? Think macro-dynamic. What does the commonly-accepted term “process management” really mean? Our technology takes the best features of Apache and Python. The process management management factor can be summed up in one word: clicks-and-mortar.”
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“Great scientists throughout history: Copernicus, etc, agree on the principle of astro-nihilistic reactivity is the fundamental principle behind all religions. Giordano Bruno knew everything about resonation astrochemistry; that is why the Illuminati annihilated him. the cosmic quasi-time constant is 8.71. only from the principle of vibro-temporal instability can one calculate the MISSING MASS OF THE UNIVERSE. End unemployment, terrorism, poverty, etc — adopt a personal philosophy based on harmonic field optics now!.”
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“Burzyinski has revamped the abstraction of obfuscation. We frequently brand mission-critical portals. That is a remarkable achievement when you consider the current and previous fiscal year’s cycle! The ability to transform micro-robustly leads to the power to generate robustly. Without preplanned networks, angel investors are forced to become global. We think that most cross-media web applications use far too much FOAF, and not enough IIS. The M&A factor is next-generation. What does it really mean to actualize “seamlessly”? We pride ourselves not only on our feature set, but our user-proof administration and user-proof configuration. We will engineer the ability of interfaces to evolve. We apply the proverb “Never look a gift horse in the mouth” not only to our TQC but our ability to transition.”
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_____ME: This smells suspiciously like something a Tu-Quacking wanna-be Winner 15 year-old who wouldn’t know the 1st thing about Total Quality Management (TQM) would plagiarize in High School.
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Tell me it ain’t so flippermush, say it ain’t so!!
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_____Mephistopheles O’Brien,
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December 17, 2012
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“@flip,
[applause type=standing /]”
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_____Me: Well, THAT “applause/standing” thing really worked out well for you, didn’t it???
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You might not ought to quit your Day Job just quite yet though.
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_____LW,
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December 17, 2012
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“@flip, I am awed.”
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_____ME: Considering the source, I can see how this could happen!!
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_____flip,
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December 17, 2012
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Nah, love to take the credit, but why reinvent the wheel “when writing word salad?”
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“Crazy comments courtesy of”
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companyname=Burzyinski
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and
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“Just random bull stuff generators. Now if only I could find a generator that translates Diddums’ posts…”
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_____ME: Some say the truth will set you free.
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Maybe you should run for political office when you grow up.
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_____flip,
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December 18, 2012
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“Well, that didn’t do it….”
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Maybe I need to post a math equation… That worked on the other thread…”
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_____ME: Trust ME!! Nothing can help you … NOW!!
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_____MarkL,
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December 18, 2012
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“@flip
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“Why bother? This arsehat DJT will just continue to blather endlessly. He has NO shame, and despite proving himself both innumerate and illiterate, he still believes he has something to add to the debate.”
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___ME: Says the “Mouthpiece” who hasn’t met a LIE he doesn’t like, yet.
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“You will not get anything of value from him, he has yet to answer the very first question asked of him: to supply the results from the 60+ phase II clinical trials that Burzynski has used to enrich himself over several decades.”
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_____ME: Says the Troll.
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I think I hear London Bridge callin’ your name!!
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“He has given us almost everything else Burzynski has ever published, but has not, CANNOT, deliver the one piece of evidence that would let his hero off the hook.”
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_____Me: Says flip’s Alcolyte.
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Narad,
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December 18, 2012
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“Narad Is he saying stupid stuff like usual where he thinks I would give up my legal history with a psychotic running around loose here?”
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“If you were not basically devoid of verbal aptitude and general reasoning skills, you could in fact readily provide a summary of your no doubt awe-inspiring legal derring-do.”
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_____ME: Coming from someone who doesn’t know who they are or how old they are, I can’t tell you how much this REALLY Hurts!!
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No, REALLY, I can’t!!!
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_____Narad,
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December 18, 2012
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Oh, this one’s good on the pretend-lawyer front:
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“And as LW eloquently displays with his 1983 case is that the FDA had no Jurisdiction in the State of Texas. The State of Texas has Jurisdiction over its own Territory except where it has ceded property to the Federal Gub-ment or a Federal Law specifically applies.”
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“The hilarious part here is that Burzynski attempted to argue that, because the federal injunction was against interstate distribution, the FDA had granted him immunity from the Texas Medical Practices Act.”
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_____ME: What’s the REALLY hilarious part here is that the DOJ was wasting taxpayer money, the Court’s time, & harassing SRB on a case they knew they couldn’t win; unless they were really bad lawyers & didn’t think SRB’s Lawyer would pick up on this!

_____Me: Well, THAT “applause/standing” thing really worked out well for you, didn’t it???

It did indeed. Thanks for noticing!

You might not ought to quit your Day Job just quite yet though.

In these days of economic uncertainty, unless you’re independently wealthy or have a killer idea for an entrepreneurial venture that will take your full time that’s reasonable advice. Thanks.

Squidymus,

_____ME: You SERIOUSLY need to check your “New Math!”

Are you really trying to argue that 5 expressed as a percentage of 2,400 is something other than 0.2%? The 7 patients Burzynski presented were clearly the “best case scenario” out of the 2,400 patients he had treated at that time, and 2 of them died, so it does seem appropriate to calculate the percentages this way.

“That’s a good point. The other thing to bear in mind is that these patients had all had conventional treatment previously. Some people are late responders to chemotherapy and radiotherapy, sometimes not showing clear signs of improvement until 12 weeks after treatment.”

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_____ME: Yeah, this Doctor & the other 5 members of the FDA must have not had any reliable educational experience & work experience, so we should go with what you think because you weren’t there & therefor, you must know more than they did.

That sentence is quite a chimera; an argument from authority followed by a strawman, mixed up with a non sequitur. It has nothing to do with anyone’s education or work experience, it has to do with what is or is not possible. They looked at these cases in 1993, but the paper I cited was published in 2006, so they may not have been aware of the possibility of late responses like this.

And while your at it, go ahead swear to that in Court & send off for that Exhibit mentioned in the Testimony.

My testimony and whatever that Exhibit says is irrelevant. What is relevant are the facts:
1. Late response to radiochemotherapy in pediatric glioblastoma, Burzynski’s speciality, has been reported in the literature.
2. All the cases looked at by Dr. Patronas and his team had had previous treatment.
3. It is possible that these cases were also examples of late response to earlier treatment.
4. Therefore they are not good evidence for the efficacy of Burzynski’s treatment.

“I see that Dr. Patronas wrote:”, “I’m not aware that spontaneous remission occurs; I don’t think it does.” “He was mistaken. This review of the literature found over 6,000 cases, 4 of them brain tumor cases. It reports that about 20 cases of spontaneous remission are reported every year, but many more undoubtedly go unreported. A brief review of PubMed and Google Scholar comes up with several case studies of spontaneous regression and remission of gliomas and astrocytomas. It’s rare but by no means unknown.”

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_____ME: Great! We can all go home now!!

Dr. Patronas said that spontaneous remission does not occur, I have cited a study that found thousands of cases of spontaneous remission reported in the literature (PDF), including some brain tumor cases, therefore Dr. Patronas was mistaken. I conclude from this that is it possible that the cases Dr. Patronas and his colleagues examined were examples of spontaneous remission, and therefore they are not good evidence for the efficacy of Burzynski’s treatment.

And how many of these were pre-1993?

All of them, since the paper was published in 1989, what does this have to do with it? When someone asserts that white crows don’t exist, a single white crow will suffice to disprove the assertion. When Dr. Patronas asserted that spontaneous remission does not occur in cancer, even assuming he was specifically referring to brain tumors, the cases reported in the study I cited suffice to prove him wrong. It seems that Dr. Patronas was not familiar with the literature on spontaneous remission.

“The bottom line is that only Phase 3 clinical trials can tell us if Burzynski’s treatment really works.”

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______ME: Well, there’s something we can agree on

So you agree that we don’t know whether Burzynski’s treatment works. That’s progress I suppose. As several people have pointed out, either it does work, in which case Burzynski has kept a life-saving treatment from thousands of patients for decades, or it doesn’t work in which case he has been charging vulnerable cancer patients hundeds of thousands of dollars for false hope. Which do you think is the case?

though I question how it is that the Gub-ment let lesser tested cancer drugs through the Express Phase II process

Which lesser tested cancer drugs are you referring to?

& are requiring radiation as part of the Phase III Trials.

I have seen that claimed in various places , but it’s not true. The trial protocol clearly states:

Children with or without prior RT are eligible.

Perhaps you should try checking some of your facts.

Good Grief!

_____ME: This smells suspiciously like something a Tu-Quacking wanna-be Winner 15 year-old who wouldn’t know the 1st thing about Total Quality Management (TQM) would plagiarize in High School.

I have a comment in the moderation hopper. I will post a small but perhaps important highlight. The Sepia Troll suggested that the FDA:

are requiring radiation as part of the Phase III Trials.

I have seen that claimed in various places , but it’s not true. The trial protocol clearly states:

Children with or without prior RT are eligible.

DJT, I have reviewed the citations you keep spamming your posts with–that’s why I’m aware they are not published reports of clinical trials and do not represent evidence that antineoplastons are effective at treating advanced cancers.
The SEC filing as well does not represent evidence that antineoplastons are safe or effective at treating advanced cancers.

If you recall in an effort to simplify things I asked you to provide the single best piece of evidence for Buraynski’s protocol, in the form of the one published report from a completed clinical trial you believe best demonstrates Buraynski’s claim that antineoplastons are safe and effective at treating advanced cancers.

Just provide one single, actual piece of evidence. That’s all I’m asking at this point. Your continued inability to do so–in fact, your clearly intentional decision not even to try–speaks volumes.

@JGC

I’m floored that you guys have the patience to wade through DJT’s walls o’ text. Apparently the concept of brevity is lost on him/her. I noticed that buried in one of his/her screeds, DJT listed a couple papers that discuss cases plucked out from several of the phase II trials, but no papers on the trials themselves. One paper included subjects from 4 different trials!

Note to DJT, this is not a scientifically acceptable means of reporting the results of a clinical trial. These are case series reports, apparently chosen because they appear to support Burzynski, but no controls or other data are presented.

Oh, also, papers on in vitro studies are not representative of Phase II clinical trials, either, seeing as they are the results of testing on the bench (e.g., petri dishes, etc.), rather than testing in humans.

@Todd W: “Apparently the concept of brevity is lost on him/her.”

An astonishing number of concepts appear to be lost on him/her.

You really only have to wade through his posts once–he keeps offering the same poster abstracts, the same SEC filing information, etc. every few posts, as if sheer repetition can serve in lieu of evidence.

He actually replied to the randomly generated buzz word salad as if it was meant to mean something.

He is just too funny. Can we keep him as a pet?

@MarkL: can you get him to do tricks? I’d like to see him answer this: “if ten patients out of fourteen survive, what percentage survive?” Based on his algorithm, I’m guessing either 96% or 60%, but it would be great fun to see him show his work again.

@Narad

I regret to report that I actually still have a PCI dongle on the premises. It’s a long story.

If I weren’t posting under a pseudonym, I would share some various exploits of a pixelated memory lane…

@HDB

It also helps to actually aver some statements

Well yes; but you know what I meant…

@MarkL

SEC filings as clinical evidence? hahahaha – sure, in the same way Crick, Wilkins and Watson won the Nobel prize after their 1953 tax returns proved the double helix theory.

Ooh, that’s a good’un.

He actually replied to the randomly generated buzz word salad as if it was meant to mean something.

Which is what I expected. I was particularly curious whether or not he could pass that comprehension test. Most people would be able to see through the junkyard of those sentences. Heck, I even mixed in a totally separate paragraph from a conspiracy generator just for fun.

@Todd W

I’m floored that you guys have the patience to wade through DJT’s walls o’ text.

I’m just scanning for when he discusses me. Everything else I’m pretty much ignoring as I scroll past. I don’t have the time at the moment to do much more than that, nor the inclination.

@Squidymus

_____flip,

“This should be interesting…”
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_____ME: If only it weren’t coming from a 15 year-old!

Touché me old chum. That totally proves that Burzyinski isn’t lying!

This smells suspiciously like something a Tu-Quacking wanna-be Winner 15 year-old who wouldn’t know the 1st thing about Total Quality Management (TQM) would plagiarize in High School.

Thundering son of a sea-gherkin, you are stupid. I even explained the whole thing above, if you’d bothered to follow the links. It’s a corporate-speak generator, you plug in the “name” of the company and it spits out paragraphs of meaningless word salad based on “corporate-speak”, aka made-up words or words used in order to create abstractness. It was a parody of what you’ve been doing. Here, I’ll post the link again:
http://www.andrewdavidson.com/gibberish/?companyname=Burzyinski
But hey, your following comments suggest you saw the info, but still didn’t understand what is was. Aw, so close to that gold star, and yet so far far far away…

Trust ME!! Nothing can help you … NOW!!

Yeah, I’m quaking in my boots. *rolls eyes

Says flip’s Alcolyte.

Wow, what a compliment. I’m pretty new here, but it’s nice to know I have “alcolytes”. Are they anything like flying monkeys, can I send them to do my evil bidding? 😀
What do I do with them now I have them?

… So after all that … it’s a “no” then for having access to peer-reviewed clinical results of Burzyinski’s trials?

I actually still have a PCI dongle on the premises

Not long ago I threw out my first modem, a 2,400 bit/s device that served me well. You try telling the kids today that and they won’t believe you.

I’m pretty new here, but it’s nice to know I have “alcolytes”. Are they anything like flying monkeys, can I send them to do my evil bidding?

You can try but they’re usually too drunk.

@AF,

Regarding Merola’s motivation, I speculated on another thread that possibly he was working off his late cousin’s debt at the clinic. She died a week after Stan told her she was getting better and the tumour was shrinking. Her fundraising page is still up and is still begging for money, with no mention of the fact she died in 2011.

Maybe once he made the first commercial he got sucked in or Burzynski saw the results and retained Merola’s services for the sequel “Look’s Who Quacking II”.

And both Merola and his lunatic brother work on conspiracy films under different names. Eric Joseph is one, I believe.

@flip

Is djt still making empty threats?

And pass the popcorn around, djt is ending up to be quite an entertaining idiot to laugh at.

The Merola brothers’ contribution to the world of crackpot conspiracy movies is their “Zeitgeist” series. I couldn’t think of the title when I first posted. Now, two double espressos later, the synapses are firing on all cylinders.

Offtopic,

@ MSII,

Do you have time next week for a meeting at the Benelux or DDC? I’ll be in Montreal from the 26 to the 30ish or 31.

Alain

t’s nice to know I have “alcolytes”.
I think they are made by Anhauser-Busch (the word “brewed” isn’t really appropriate).

Alain,

Sure…I’ve been waiting for you to post on that other board we discussed here so I could get your e-mail address, but you haven’t submitted anything recently.

Post a generic “Happy Holidays” thing and I’ll pick up your coordinates, as we say here in la belle province.

Depending on the weather I’m walking distance to Benelux and can get to DDC via metro.

Without getting specific, in what part of the city do you stay when you’re here?

Is djt still making empty threats?

And pass the popcorn around, djt is ending up to be quite an entertaining idiot to laugh at.

I’m not sure empty threat is the right phrase. What do you call it when someone Gish gallops word salad in between ridiculously bad puns, link spam and acting like the high school attention-getter? (Bart Simpson on drugs perhaps?)

12/18 Comments:
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_____LW,
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“Wow. DJT is even more incoherent than yesterday. Did anyone else bother to look through that mess and note that part of the section responding to Orac’s review of Merola’s propaganda is repeated? Not that it was very intelligible to start with, since there seem to be some quotations from Merola that are in quotation marks, but other comments that appear to be from Merola that aren’t in quotation marks interspersed with insults to Orac that evidently are comments from DJT.”
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“I would suggest that DJT try to pay attention in English class, but considering the calibre of DJT’s school as revealed by his/her mathematical atrocities yesterday, I’m afraid that what we see is probably acceptable in DJT’s English classes.”

_____ME: If you were unable to select Orac’s link to the Merola article, & distinguish my clearly separate remarks from Merola’s, as Comedian Jeff Foxworthy says, “you might be a Redneck”, and need to worry about your own Education!
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_____LW
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December 18, 2012
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“FDA had no Jurisdiction in the State of Texas.”
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“That will be a surprise to just about everyone in Texas.”
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_____ME: Way to “Cherry-Pick” that statement out of context.
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No need for me to waste my time correcting you though, since someone else already has.
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_____Narad,
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December 18, 2012
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“FDA had no Jurisdiction in the State of Texas.”
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“That will be a surprise to just about everyone in Texas.”
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“They really don’t, to the extent that one is talking about FDCA § 301.”
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_____Shay,
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December 18, 2012
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“Well, so far we’ve seen him/her/it demonstrate”
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“Math – fail.
English composition – fail.
Reading comprehension – fail.
Rhetoric – major fail.”
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“Can’t comment on his/her/it’s critical thinking skills as none have been demonstrated.”
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_____ME: And so far we’ve seen from Tu-Shay:
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(1) Inability to number items – FAIL!:

____Alain

December 12, 2012
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“ummm…..let see:

1-: insulting
2-: patronizing
3-: spammer

What else? Anyone want to add to that list?”
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_____Shay,
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December 12, 2012
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“Incomprehensible, irrelevant, and inane?”
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_____Didymus Judas Thomas
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“You can’t teach I crystal skull anything
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December 15, 2012
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12/10 Comments:
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“Alain,
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4-: correct”
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(2). Inability to respond to questions – FAIL!!
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_____Didymus Judas Thomas
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Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika
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December 2, 2012
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“Shay, please cite any post(s) & their dates which “shredded whatever” I’ve “managed to produce” where I have not responded to their alleged “FACTS.” Please cite any post(s) & their dates which support your allegation that I’ve “demonstrated that” I’m “doing a quick copy/paste without bothering to check the articles” I’m “citing to see if they support” my “claims.”
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(3). Inability to bring anything relevant to the table – FAIL!!!:
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Didymus Judas Thomas
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You can’t teach I crystal skull anything
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December 15, 2012
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12/10 Comments:
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“Shay, it would be great if you actually had something relevant To-”Shay.””
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_____LW,
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December 18, 2012
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“@Narad: “They really don’t, to the extent that one is talking about FDCA § 301.”
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Okay, they had no jurisdiction in this case.
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It’s funny how the FDA is evilly trying to shut down and incarcerate Burzynski but they allowed him to create a Phase III — on paper only since all subjects were supposed to be accrued almost a year ago but none have been — so that proves the FDA believes his claims. According to the ever-courteous DJT.”
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_____ME: And if you were actually paying attention to what’s going on you would understand that:
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1. There are costs associated with a Phase III Clinical Trail, and therefor funds have to obtained,
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2. Patients of a sufficient number need to be obtained who specifically fit the “Children with Newly-Diagnosed Diffuse Intrinsic Brainstem Glioma” category,
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3. Parents need to be convinced to allow their Children to have their Brains be exposed to Radiation,
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4. And there may be other factors as well.
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_____MarkL,
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“Astounded by DJT stupidity
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December 18, 2012
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“@ Diddums
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So still no published, peer reviewed results from any of Burzynski’s phase 2 trials to report yet then?
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FAIL (again)”
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_____ME:
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NOT astounded by MarkL’s stupidity.
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_____ME: MarkLiar,
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Still unable to answer “Yes” or “No” as to whether you have or have not reviewed at least 1 of the 10 publications which has “Clinical Trial” “or “Trial” in it somewhere?

DJT: You don’t even understand the mathematical concept of division. Why should we take anything you take seriously?

Oh thats quite a strawman you are building there Diddums, but since you are aware that it is a strawman, we should really just call you a bare-faced liar and a fraud.

Still unable to answer “Yes” or “No” as to whether you have or have not reviewed at least 1 of the 10 publications which has “Clinical Trial” “or “Trial” in it somewhere?

And in answer to you, YES, I have looked at every one of the links I have seen with relevant titles, and not ONE of them are results of a phase II trial conducted by Burzynski.

That is why I keep asking you for results, not abstracts, not poster presentations, not other peoples work, not advertorials or puff-pieces from woo friendly mags or vanity publishers, FULL, PUBLISHED, PEER REVIEWED RESULTS of a phase II trial that shows even a glimmer of hope for antineoplastons as a medical treatment for ANYTHING, from the last 30+ years of research and 60+ such trials that Burzynski claims to have run.

You can’t do that can you? Because Burzynski has never published results of his studies, he just gives out mish-mashes of info gleaned from any number of sources to try and portray himself in the best possible light.

The only possible reason for him to continue in this manner after so long is that he is a FRAUD.

Thats why your gish gallops, your red herrings, strawmen, onus probandi, tu quoque, and probably a dozen other logical fallacies are so amusing to us. because we know the Burzynski story. We know he hasnt released results. So try as you like, you just come across as a laughable under-educated, aggressive, woo-crazy moron. We have tried to give you the chance to give in gracefully, but you just keep coming back and heaping more shame upon yourself.

Do not for a moment delude yourself that anyone takes your childish comments seriously, we are taking the p*ss out of you because you are every credulous NWO/Alt-med/Space abduction fantasist stereotype rolled into one steaming lump. You are HYSTERICALLY funny.

@Marc Stephens Is Insane: “She died a week after Stan told her she was getting better and the tumour was shrinking.”

That seems a common story. If Burzynski says the tumor is shrinking, it’s probably time to wrap up your affairs and start making funeral arrangements.

Squidymus,
Anyone who can read can see that you are a bluffing, blustering, lying buffoon. I don’t know why you bother trying to pretend otherwise.

It’s funny how the FDA is evilly trying to shut down and incarcerate Burzynski but they allowed him to create a Phase III — on paper only since all subjects were supposed to be accrued almost a year ago but none have been — so that proves the FDA believes his claims. According to the ever-courteous DJT.

I see that you predictably fail to get this despite explanations on multiple fronts. Let us recall that you asserted that the FDA had no jurisdiction in the (SOVEREIGN STATE OF!!1!1!!) Texas. This is false, as the GMP part of the injunction demonstrates. The FDA does not appear to have attempted to assert jurisdiction over intrastate commerce. As previously stated, they wouldn’t have needed to in the first place, because the TMPA already explicitly incorporated federal restrictions, and the whole thing well predates the sort of administrative fiat attempts that one can see from recent years. In short, you’re an imbecile.

Now, try to summarize your Ethan Allen–like legal assault on the tyrannical forces of “Gub’ment.” You can rest assured that nobody at all is interested in actually making your acquaintance.

I guess Orac is otherwise occupied today, as my comment earlier comment is still languishing in moderation. I’m going to report without the guilty link.

Squidymus,

_____ME: You SERIOUSLY need to check your “New Math!”

Are you really trying to argue that 5 expressed as a percentage of 2,400 is something other than 0.2%? The 7 patients Burzynski presented were clearly the “best case scenario” out of the 2,400 patients he had treated at that time, and 2 of them died, so it does seem appropriate to calculate the percentages this way.

“That’s a good point. The other thing to bear in mind is that these patients had all had conventional treatment previously. Some people are late responders to chemotherapy and radiotherapy, sometimes not showing clear signs of improvement until 12 weeks after treatment.”

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_____ME: Yeah, this Doctor & the other 5 members of the FDA must have not had any reliable educational experience & work experience, so we should go with what you think because you weren’t there & therefor, you must know more than they did.

That sentence is quite a chimera; an argument from authority followed by a strawman, mixed up with a non sequitur. It has nothing to do with anyone’s education or work experience, it has to do with what is or is not possible. They looked at these cases in 1993, but the paper I cited was published in 2006, so they may not have been aware of the possibility of late responses like this.

And while your at it, go ahead swear to that in Court & send off for that Exhibit mentioned in the Testimony.

My testimony and whatever that Exhibit says is irrelevant. What is relevant are the facts:
1. Late response to radiochemotherapy in pediatric glioblastoma, Burzynski’s speciality, has been reported in the literature.
2. All the cases looked at by Dr. Patronas and his team had had previous treatment.
3. It is possible that these cases were also examples of late response to earlier treatment.
4. Therefore they are not good evidence for the efficacy of Burzynski’s treatment.

“I see that Dr. Patronas wrote:”, “I’m not aware that spontaneous remission occurs; I don’t think it does.” “He was mistaken. This review of the literature found over 6,000 cases, 4 of them brain tumor cases. It reports that about 20 cases of spontaneous remission are reported every year, but many more undoubtedly go unreported. A brief review of PubMed and Google Scholar comes up with several case studies of spontaneous regression and remission of gliomas and astrocytomas. It’s rare but by no means unknown.”

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_____ME: Great! We can all go home now!!

Dr. Patronas said that spontaneous remission does not occur, I have cited a study that found thousands of cases of spontaneous remission reported in the literature (PDF), including some brain tumor cases, therefore Dr. Patronas was mistaken. I conclude from this that is it possible that the cases Dr. Patronas and his colleagues examined were examples of spontaneous remission, and therefore they are not good evidence for the efficacy of Burzynski’s treatment.

And how many of these were pre-1993?

All of them, since the paper was published in 1989, what does this have to do with it? When someone asserts that white crows don’t exist, a single white crow will suffice to disprove the assertion. When Dr. Patronas asserted that spontaneous remission does not occur in cancer, even assuming he was specifically referring to brain tumors, the cases reported in the study I cited suffice to prove him wrong. It seems that Dr. Patronas was not familiar with the literature on spontaneous remission.

“The bottom line is that only Phase 3 clinical trials can tell us if Burzynski’s treatment really works.”

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______ME: Well, there’s something we can agree on

So you agree that we don’t know whether Burzynski’s treatment works. That’s progress I suppose. As several people have pointed out, either it does work, in which case Burzynski has kept a life-saving treatment from thousands of patients for decades, or it doesn’t work in which case he has been charging vulnerable cancer patients hundeds of thousands of dollars for false hope. Which do you think is the case?

though I question how it is that the Gub-ment let lesser tested cancer drugs through the Express Phase II process

Which lesser tested cancer drugs are you referring to?

& are requiring radiation as part of the Phase III Trials.

I have seen that claimed in various places , but it’s not true. The trial protocol clearly states:

Children with or without prior RT are eligible.

Perhaps you should try checking some of your facts.

12/18 Comments:
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_____Politicalguineapig

December 18, 2012
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“DJT:
Heretic: a professed believer who maintains religious opinions contrary to those accepted by his or her church or rejects doctrines prescribed by that church.

2. Roman Catholic Church . a baptized Roman Catholic who willfully and persistently rejects any article of faith.

3. anyone who does not conform to an established attitude, doctrine, or principle.
Note that there is only one “i,” and that none of these definitions have tics, ticks, or tocks. Also, we are discussing science, not religion- which probably escaped you. There is no heresy in medicine; only stuff that works and stuff that stupid people cling to, even if it ought to have been thrown out.”
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_____ME:

Politicalguineapig, “Hereatic” – “Here-a-Tic.”
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A blood-sucking insect who sucks the life out of you, similar to a Tu-Quacker.
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Narad
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December 18, 2012
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Don’t Blame Me!! YOU asked for THIS!!!
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“Posting the same crap that you plainly don’t understand once again? No, not really.”
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_____ME: Says the person who whined:
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Narad
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December 3, 2012
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I have a really, really hard time reading his post.
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You’re not the only one. DJT seems to really not grasp the concept of “context.” It’s like the whole thing has to be reconstructed from scratch, including what’s taken from elsewehere with no indication, with every word-blob.
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_____ME: So when I re-post the relevant posts so you won’t have to scroll up to my previous posts, you reinforce my belief that you’ll WHINE no matter what.
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_____KreBLOGicrap,
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“December 18, 2012
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“Squidymus,
I am amazed that anyone would have the nerve to return after the utter humiliation you have heaped upon yourself. Have you no shame? You want more humiliation? I’m happy to oblige.”
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_____ME: Bring your Best Lame Game because it’s all the Same.
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“KreBLOGGERzen wants Grandè BLACK CROWS TO EAT!!!!!!!!!!”
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“You haven’t quite gotten the hang of humorously changing pseudonyms have you? As for the crow, it’s you who should be finding some way of making a very large portion palatable.
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_____ME: What did you say KreBLOGscat?
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“Please cite the specific date & post re Galileo because you are wrong YET AFAGAIN!
I never posted that: _____”Your insistence that Galileo discovered that the world is round…””
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“Yes you did, right here.
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Yep, we know Science picks sides from:
Galileo – the Earth is round.
Ignaz Semmelweis – wash your hands between the time you deliver a baby & do an autopsy & deliver a baby, unless you like sending people “Down Under.””
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_____ME: “Galileo – the Earth is round.” does NOT mean “that Galileo discovered that the world is round…”
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It may, in the Dimension you’re residing in, but not in the “Real World” where I reside.
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“You even defended that statement later on that thread when various people called you out on it. The evidence is there for all to see.”

_____ME: Bullocks!
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“How would you like your CROW COOKED?
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Pathetic.”
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_____ME: Yes, you are!!!
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_____”defence of your statement that, “It’s great that the USA is #1 in incarnation of individuals in prisons” is hilarious, thanks for the laugh.”
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“You wrote incarnation, presumably meaning “incarnation”, you halfwit. That’s why we’re laughing at you.”
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_____ME: And I’m laughing right back at ya!
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_____Didymus Judas Thomas
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YOU WANT ANSWERS ??? (Part 3)
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December 14, 2012
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12/8 Comments:
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“Consumption of Beer: 2nd (2008)”
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Because you can’t seem to recognize that the USA is 2nd in Beer Consumption, & I was intoxicated from lack of sleep, spending time responding to all the DRIVEL that Tu-Quackers post on this blog, citing NO reliable secondary sources.
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“WRONG AGAIN KreBLOGizenica!! This is exactly WHY you need to “FACT-CHECK” your posts!”
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“Anyone can make a typo, but few will fail to notice it when quoting it, twice, and defend what they thought they wrote instead of addressing what they did write.”
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_____”You have bragged about this here before, using a different name, haven’t you?”
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“WRONG YET AGAIN KreBLOGidenize!!!”
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“Can a question be wrong? If you haven’t bragged about it here before, there is someone who posts comments with an identical style and similar content who also boasted of the same achievement not that long ago. In other words, I don’t believe you.
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_____ME: It can be the way you post (Shhhhhhh … Wait for…) “IT.”
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“How would you like your THIRD HELPING of CROW????”
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“Exponentially pathetic.”
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_____ME: I agree! You are!!

_____”… here you are on a science blog, defending pseudoscience”
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“WRONG to the DOUBLE ONG YET AGAIN!!!!”
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“As I have clearly posted before, I attack both sides!”
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“Nonsense. The only possible explanation for the reams of material you have posted here is that you are defending Burzynski. I haven’t seen any criticism of Burzynski from you at all. How is that in any way attacking both sides?”
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_____ME: Get ready to pull your head out!!
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_____Didymus Judas Thomas
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Los Estados Unidos de America
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December 1, 2012
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(Portions BOLDED for KreBLOGizBLIND.)
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“Marc Stephens Is Insane, did you access the link(s) & information & actually read what it’s about? What’s your motivation for not giving any indication that you’ve read the information available re the last 4 points of the post? What am I trying to prove that’s unproveable? What was Orac’s motivation for writing his comments on:
12/5/11 “[D]espite all of the attempts of Dr. Burzynski and supporters to portray them otherwise antineoplastons are chemotherapy…” &
12/12/11 “Why do his supporters (and, let’s be honest, Dr. Burzynski himself) portray his therapy as “nontoxic” and “not chemotherapy…” &
1/20/12 “…contrary to Dr. Burzynski’s claim that he doesn’t use chemotherapy…”
THOUGH MY POST INDICATES THIS IS NOT THE CASE SINCE AT LEAST THE BOOK 11/1/2006. IF SRB INDICATES ONE THING IN A BOOK, SOMETHING ELSE IN A MOVIE, AND SOMETHING ELSE SOMEWHERE ELSE, THEN PEOPLE SHOULD FACT-CHECK IT. Maybe some people should post less & fact-check more.
My motivation is that if I am expected to believe that the information on this blog is “FACTUAL,” then the people on this blog shouldn’t take everything Orac posts as “FACT” without fact checking it. Orac should be held to the same standard he is holding SRB to. If Orac wants to be believable then he needs to be less vitrolic & more factual. I can not force anyone to believe anything if they are not open-minded enough to believe. No I do not work for SRB. I am not being paid to post comments. Those are rediculous questions unless you have asked Orac if he works for Big Pharma & is being paid by them to post comments.”
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“Narad, THEY CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. See my above previous reply to you re NIH. With all the fact-checking of people’s posts it takes time for me to reply because some people are making comments that are questionable when it comes to their “FACTS.” :-O”
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_____Didymus Judas Thomas
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Land of the First Amendment
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December 6, 2012
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Comments re 12/4 –
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“Marc Stephens Is Insane, are you Insane? Egad! HIS name is on 1 document out of 49!! I can understand why you are morally outraged!!! Do you think that I have a photographic memory so that I remember every name I read when reviewing all the information I go through in a day? Since you didn’t back up your post with “FACTS,” I just instinctively thought you were in denial. You actually got that one right! Unlike Chris, I will actually apologize for not consuming enough “Brain-Food,” or is that considered Homeopathic? I don’t use a keyboard, I project my thoughts like Dragon.
Please provide the “FACTS” that shore up your solecism that by posting 2 newspaper articles, I was attempting to provide “proof that Burznyski is not a fraud.” Who’s just “attrempting (sic) to “show”” you “the other side?” I’M PRESENTING BOTH SIDES. I don’t use a mouse. That would be cruelty to animals, which wouldn’t make PETA happy. Oh My! HIS name is on 1 document out of 42!! How could I not remember THAT!!!”
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Didymus Judas Thomas
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Amber Waves of Grain
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December 8, 2012
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12/5 comments:
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I THINK I’VE MADE IT CLEAR WHY I’M HERE:
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“HOW’D YA LIKE YER 4th SERVING OF CROW COOKED???????”
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I think you deserve to eat it all raw.
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_____ME: Well of course you do, you Nincompoop!
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“And yet after all that goat cheese, you provide not 1 cite to support your braying in the wind!!!!!!!”
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“Whether you like it or not, the facts as presented by Merola’s publicist in the movie, and the documents on its website such as radiology and histopathology reports, are not consistent with the claim in the movie that Burzynski cured Jodi Fenton’s cancer. I don’t need a citation to prove that, it’s evident to anyone who can read and understand an MRI report and a timeline. If there were any decent citations to cite about Burzynski’s work, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.”
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_____ME: Yes, because in your “Magical World” you think that ALL the Medical Documents are there!
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_____Krebiozen
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December 18, 2012
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“Isn’t there an internet Law about comments about typos containing typos?
I meant, “You wrote incarnation, presumably meaning “incarceration”, you halfwit. ” The difference is I noticed, and I acknowledge I made a mistake.”
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_____ME: And I made a mistake in thinking you read my Beer Consumption note & presumably can acknowledge that I am replying to multiple SPAMS by Non-Fact-Citing Tu-Quackers.
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“Krebiozen
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December 18, 2012
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Bleaurgh. When I wrote “Merola’s publicist” I meant “Merola, Burzynski’s publicist”. It’s been a long day.”
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_____And now you know how I feel.
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Denice Walter
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December 18, 2012
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@ Krebiozen:
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Do you ever feel as if you’re addressing a brick wall, dining room table or a large chest of drawers?
Fortunately, there are lurkers who see all, read all and silently steep in SB goodness far away in the deepest, darkest recesses of cyberspace, they wait developing.
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______ME: Yes, I think a lot of people on this blog “silently STEEP.”
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Now and then, we are graced with their overt presence when one steps forth and says, “O hai!” or suchlike.
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_____ME: That would be: Oy Vey!
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novalox
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“Laughing at diddums-kun“In Burzynski The Movie, Dr. Whitaker”
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December 18, 2012
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“My goodness, is djt continuing to prove himself a neverending supply of self-inflicted stupidity.”
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“djt, a perfect example of Dunning-Kreuger.”
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“He/she/it has to keep posting, the idiocy projected from this individual is sooooo entertaining.”
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“So, djt, if you are reading this, keep posting. We do need a fool like yourself to keep us entertained, and you seem to have the role locked up pretty well.”
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_____ME: Says Novocain, a perfect example of the in-Holy Trinity, the 3 Stooges!
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Anything to keep the Tu-QuackerGenerNation from posting about HTML & something nowhere being within their grasp: Mensa.
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_____flip
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Popping the corn…
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December 18, 2012
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“@Krebiozen
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I haven’t seen any criticism of Burzynski from you at all. How is that in any way attacking both sides?”
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“Presumably since we’re providing the criticism, Squidymus is providing the “other side” (re: his “defence of truth” comment). Or something…”
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_____ME: Says another Tu-Quacker who needs to pull their head out.

The iDJiT: “If Orac wants to be believable then he needs to be less vitrolic & more factual.”

Total lack of self-awareness. Sad, really.

OMFG! If DJT is a dude, then we really need to think twice about the stereotype of women talking so much more than men. At least talking about Tampons is EVER so much more interesting than trying to figure out what the hell this idjit is talking about.

Does anyone know of a killfile that works in Firefox (Mac version) on Sciblogs? Greasemonkey isn’t doing it, and I’d really like to killfile DJT, he’s boring to read and it takes too long to scroll through his word salads.

(Portions BOLDED for KreBLOGizBLIND.)

Apparently bold-face and CAPITALS are now synonymous. Please, continue.

Keep posting djt, your never-ending stupidity is so entertaining. Your pathetic attempts at insult and ad hominem are so cute.

And besides., the more you post here, the less time you have of trying to attract innocent marks towards burzynski.

Does anyone know of a killfile that works in Firefox (Mac version) on Sciblogs?

I was thinking just this a couple of days ago. I’ve tried cooking up a greasemonkey recipe; the XPath patterns seem fine, but either the damned rule won’t fire or the stylesheet refuses to play ball. I suppose that one could try dropping a line to Christina Schelin, who plainly gets this, but that’s all I’ve got.

I wouldn’t worry MI Dawn,

I have a feeling Orac will be wielding the banhammer very soon, as Diddums has departed entirely from the subject at hand and is just looking to cause trouble.

It seems Squidymus has degenerated into denying he wrote things we can all see he did write, or that they didn’t mean what he clearly meant them to mean, and has emitted more great clouds of content-free blather. Unless he comes up with something substantial that can be refuted I’m done with him.

So when I re-post the relevant posts so you won’t have to scroll up to my previous posts, you reinforce my belief that you’ll WHINE no matter what.

More comprehension fail, jambrains. Failure to reenact your own self-soiling wasn’t the issue. And why are you now rooting around in old comments like a blowfly for something stupid to say, anyway? It’s not as though you really need anything to hinge this special talent on.

What is more interesting to me than Squidymus’ spammy posts is his evolution over time of different formatting. And the evolution of picking up words and phrases we use – whether it’s tu quoque or references to alcohol.

I wonder what that’s all about? It’s like it’s trying to show that it knows what we’re talking about, but in trying too hard misses the mark entirely and only presents that it knows very little indeed.

@MarkL

Do not for a moment delude yourself that anyone takes your childish comments seriously, we are taking the p*ss out of you because you are every credulous NWO/Alt-med/Space abduction fantasist stereotype rolled into one steaming lump. You are HYSTERICALLY funny.

Repeated because I agree. Hysterical and funny and hysterically funny.

@Krebiozen

So you agree that we don’t know whether Burzynski’s treatment works. That’s progress I suppose. As several people have pointed out, either it does work, in which case Burzynski has kept a life-saving treatment from thousands of patients for decades, or it doesn’t work in which case he has been charging vulnerable cancer patients hundeds of thousands of dollars for false hope. Which do you think is the case?

One can assume that since we don’t know whether it works or not, Squidymus thinks we should stop criticising Burzyinski. Because, you know, the guy could be right… But then one would also have to ignore copious amounts of evidence that Burzyinski doesn’t seem to care about proving the treatment works, so much as enjoying the wealth of providing an unproven cure.

@Squidymus, you moth-eaten marmot

“Presumably since we’re providing the criticism, Squidymus is providing the “other side” (re: his “defence of truth” comment). Or something…”

Says another Tu-Quacker who needs to pull their head out.

If you would be a little less obtuse and a little more succinct/explicit, we wouldn’t have to play guessing games as to what your motives are. I won’t apologise for speculating, particularly as when “disagreeing” with that speculation – see your comment quote above – you do nothing to point it in a more correct direction.

12/19 Comments:
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_____KreBLOGcaca,
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December 19, 2012
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“Do you ever feel as if you’re addressing a brick wall, dining room table or a large chest of drawers?”
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“I do, but I also get the feeling that somewhere in the depths of those clouds of sepia there is some sort of rational mind that might be reachable. I really only bother for the lurkers*, as you astutely observe.”
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“* That term still makes me smile, as The Lurkers was a UK punk band I was fond of back in the late 70s.”
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_____ME: Are the Lurkers in the same Black Hole your head is?
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I’m not joking!
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MarkL
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December 19, 2012
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Diddums,
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“So your support for Burzynski is now predicated on Orac’s supposed failings as a film reviewer now that your “Phase III trials PROVES efficacy” gambit has failed, and that you have given up trying to find the non-existent Phase II trial results?”
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_____ME: MarkLiar, everyone on here already knows you’re just a Time-Waisting Tu-Quacker who can’t answer questions yourself but want others to answer them.
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“You are a laughable little troll relying on semantics to try and retain any credibility. As I said before, GIVE IT UP, you are making an utter fool of yourself.”
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_____ME: MarkLiar, everyone on here already knows what you are since my 12/3 post to you.
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“Anyone besides me notice all the Antineoplaston information being added to Cancer . gov?”
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“Nothing has been added to the Antineoplaston PDQ summary on cancer.gov since August, and it STILL says there is no proof of efficacy.”
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_____ME: Says MarkLiar (8/16/12), proving that MarkLiar can actually access a web-site & look something up, & proving that reverse psychology actually does work?
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“Your attempts to shore up support for Burzynski have become farcical!”
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_____ME: And you’ve actually shown you can “Fact-Check.”
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Mephistopheles O’Brien
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December 19, 2012
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“@Didymus Judas Thomas,
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Thanks for pointing out the information on antineoplastons on the National Cancer Institute web site. I was particularly intrigued by the comment that “The evidence for use of antineoplaston therapy as a treatment for cancer is inconclusive. Controlled clinical trials are necessary to assess the value of this therapy.”
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I note the comment that “While these publications [by Dr. Burzynski and his collaborators) have reported on successful remissions with the use of antineoplastons, other investigators have been unable to duplicate these results and suggest that interpreting effects of antineoplaston treatment in patients with recurrent gliomas may be confounded by pre-antineoplaston treatment as well as imaging artifacts.””
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_____ME: And I’m sure being the “Fact-Checker” you are that you noticed the reference was to the 1999 Mayo Clinic, which as I have pointed out before:
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“”CONCLUSION: Although we could not confirm any tumor regression in patients in this study, the small sample size precludes definitive conclusions about treatment efficacy.”
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Narad
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December 19, 2012
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“Dr. James Watson: “The war on cancer is a bunch of sh*t.” (Discoverer of DNA, Nobel Laureate, former member of the National Cancer Advisory Board, Nobel Prize Winner. (And he’s still at it!!)
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I think a more relevant Watson quote might be, “If you are really stupid, I would call that a disease.””
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_____ME: I think more relevant Watson quotes may be found (to list a few.) at:
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7/17/2012:
http:// m. dailytelegraph. com. au/lifestyle/all-cancers-could-be-cured-in-10-years-says-scientist-who-discovered-dna-structure/story-e6frf00i-1226427320861
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7/14/2012:
http:// www. irishcentral. com/news/Irish-American-scientist-who-discovered-DNA-says-cancer-could-be-cured-in-a-decade-162456836.html?mob-ua=Y
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7/13/2012:
http:// articles. economictimes. indiatimes. com/2012-07-13/news/32663988_1_cancer-cure-cancer-cases-cancer-research
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7/12/2012:
http:// www. dailymail. co. uk/sciencetech/article-2172894/DNA-pioneer-James-Watson-We-cure-cancers-decade.html
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2/24/2012:
http:// today. ucla. edu/portal/ut/PRN-watson-and-cancer-193383.aspx
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2012:
http:// www. cshl. edu/gradschool/message-from-dr-james-watson
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http:// www. rhspeakers. com/speaker/dr-james-d-watson
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11/27/2010:
http:// online. wsj. com/article/SB10001424052748703882404575519961343438740.html
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9/10/2010:
http:// m. guardiannews. com/science/2010/sep/10/james-watson-cancer-research
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Shay
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December 19, 2012
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“Sir Diddimus is also still clinging to his belief that since the FDA approved Burzynski’s Phase III trial protocol, that’s the same as approving Phase III trials.
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Again — reading comprehension fail.”
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_____ME: Says the Queen of posts with no secondary sources to back-up their GIGO.
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“Have you noticed how many times he/she/it mentions Orac? There’s a serious scream for attention, here. I have a feeling Sir D has a serious knot in his/her/its panties over being ignored by the big box of blinking lights.”
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_____ME: Says the person who has an aversion to using people’s names.
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Please let us know when you truly have a relevant thought!

@djt

Still no actual facts, just more insults and ad hoiminems

Please, keep posting your stupidity for the world to see, it does give me a good laugh at how idiotic you have been. It also limits the damage you can do by attracting innocent marks, little buddy.

So Didy, do you agree with everything Watson says because he’s a Nobel Laureate?

Any opinions on this one?

[I am] inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa [because] all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours, whereas all the testing says not really.

http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2011/04/james-watson-menaced-by-hoodie.html

I had the ‘privilege’ of seeing him lecture at my institution last year, and it’s quite clear he’s gone off the deep end. He called individuals with intellectual disabilities “genetic losers” who should be “purged from the population.”

When I was a child, I once heard my mother say of another woman, who had an urge to dominate every conversation, that she was “talking to hear her head rattle”. The woman was far more intelligent, vastly better informed, and enormously more polite than Didymus Judas Thomas, who does not appear very bright and is certainly both ill-read and ill-bred, but I think the term can be properly brought to date: Didymus Judas Thomas is typing to hear his keyboard rattle.

12/19 Comments:
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_____KreBLOGastrointestinal,
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December 19, 2012
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“Squidymus,
“So you can’t point to any factually inaccurate statements by Orac, or anywhere he claims to be an investigative journalist, and you don’t understand what ‘cherry picking’ means. See, you could have saved yourself almost 100 lines by fitting that into a single sentence, like I did. That might also have avoided making yourself look like a raving lunatic, but it’s probably a bit late to worry about that.”
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“Do you have any substantial points to make or are you just determined to show off your lack of education and poor communication skills even further? There’s nothing wrong with ignorance, as long as you acknowledge it, and try to do something about it. Another tip: trying to bluff your way through an area you clearly no nothing about in the company of people who do is a really, really bad move.”
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“Frankly I’m surprised Orac hasn’t wielded the ban hammer for the sheer volume of incoherent garbage the Sepia Troll has rudely excreted on his blog.”
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_____Me: KrapzBLOGas, did you have a point?
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Cherry Picking – The concept which is foreign to you:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking_(fallacy)
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1. “No one would ever confuse my reviews with those of Roger Ebert (mine tend to be a lot longer, for one thing, and concentrate on science MUCH MORE than moviemaking)”
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FAIL.
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2. “I thought that the least I could do is to oblige him by reviewing Burzynski The Movie and BRINGING WHAT ATTENTION I CAN TO IT.”
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FAIL.
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_____KreBLOGie, if someone who is allegedly blogging on a science blog, & allegedly in the medical profession, & blogs that they are going to be “BRINGING WHAT ATTENTION I CAN TO IT,” then I expect that they will be doing some investigative reporting.
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3. “In Burzynski The Movie, Dr. Whitaker has his nose embedded so far up Dr. Burzynski’s rectum that Dr. Burzynski wouldn’t need a colonoscopy if Merola just strapped a light to Dr. Whitaker’s face.”
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FAIL.
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Cherry Picking: “fallacy of selective attention, the most common example of which is the confirmation bias, rejects material unfavorable to an argument, etc.”
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4. “…I have to wonder whether Dr. Burzynski just hired Merola to make an infomercial.” ” Merola claims the movie was his idea, but I have a hard time believing it.”
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FAIL- Cherry Picking.
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5. “…but the end product of his work is so one-sided that it’s a joke, and a bad one at that.”
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FAIL – Cherry Picking.
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6. “When other researchers do a trial with his neoplastons, the results aren’t nearly as promising; in fact, the results are pretty much always negative, and significant adverse reactions are observed.”
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FAIL – Facts.
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7. “Of course, a pattern has emerged over the years. Whenever Burzynski does a trial, the results come out as promising, with minimal or mild toxicity. When other researchers do a trial with his neoplastons, the results aren’t nearly as promising; in fact, the results are pretty much always negative, and significant adverse reactions are observed.”
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FAIL – Facts
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8. “In the late 1990s three well-respected oncologists reviewed Burzynski’s clinical trial evidence and all agreed that:”
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FAIL – Cherry Picking.
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9. “The toxicities of the antineoplastons treatment are significant and life-threatening.”
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FAIL – Cherry Picking
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10. Some statements re Antineoplastons that may not be factually accurate re Japanese trials.

@DJT- How did you manage to survive to adulthood? I would think someone like you would have a hard time remembering whether you could eat rusty nails and broken glass or not.

@djt

Yawn, try again, little troll.

Your illogic is quite amusing, however, for a few good laughs at your complete imbecility.

5. “…but the end product of his work is so one-sided that it’s a joke, and a bad one at that.”
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FAIL – Cherry Picking.
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What is this even supposed to mean?

Didy Didy Didy, can’t you see
Sometimes your posts just mystify me.
And I just loathe your rambling ways
Guess that’s how they roll in high school these days.

How did you manage to survive to adulthood?
Unwarranted assumption, Grey Falcon.

12/19 Comments:
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KreBLOGixon,
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December 19, 2012
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“1975 – President Nixon declares War on Cancer.
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US history isn’t my specialist subject, but wasn’t Gerald Ford US President in 1975?”
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_____ME: Further research shows that though the supposed “War on Cancer” started with the 1971 legislation, many sources indicate Nixon didn’t actually use those words.
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AdamG
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December 19, 2012
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“Dr. James Watson…Discoverer of DNA
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Poor Friedrich Miescher always gets the shaft.”
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_____ME: Actually, Jerry Reed got the shaft. She got the Gold Mine.
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But if you prefer, I can state that you breathe air, & then list the other 7 billion + people on the planet who also breathe air. 😉
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Narad
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December 19, 2012
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“The FDA took [Avastin] off the market for this condition in November 2011 because it doesn’t work at all if not properly prescribed [11] (or at least for the oncological world who simply does not understand how to prescribe this gene-targeted medicine—which is pretty much all of them).
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Looks like Merola (from whom this regurgitation originates) doesn’t understand the difference between a gene and a protein or, really, what “gene-targeted” means in the first place. Quick, Squidymus, explain the difference between Herceptin and Avastin.”
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_____ME: Sure, Naray-d-answer. I’ll get right on that just as soon as you answer the ?’s I’ve asked you!
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herr doktor bimler
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December 19, 2012
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“I look forward to another shouty effusion from DJT, denying that he had ever claimed that James Watson discovered DNA.”
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_____ME: Why bother? If “Forbes” says it, it must be true!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2012/05/01/jim-watson-who-discovered-dnas-structure-picks-his-favorite-gene
..

Krebiozen
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December 19, 2012
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“Then there’s this:
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3/2/1976 – FDA Bureau of Drugs Director Richard Crout states in The Cancer Letter of 3/12/1976, that when anyone other than large institutions ask permission to conduct clinical trials, “You want harsh regulations… sometimes we say it is proper to hinder research.”
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Here’s the full quote, kindly provided by the Burzynski movie folks (who I suspect assumed people wouldn’t bother to check it) in context:
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“The fact of life is, we get INDs,” Crout said. They have in them toxicological data. We have to make a judgment. These come from a variety of places, not just NCI or the top research institutions. For some places, you want harsh regulations, backed by the full weight of the law-have had INDs for laetrile, for example, and other hoax remedies. What are the correct ways to develop drugs? There are correct ways. Some involve procedural matters, some general things like informed consent. Sometimes we say it is proper to hinder research. We’re asking you to lay down the procedural rules for working up drugs in the cancer field.”
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That all seems perfectly reasonable to me. What’s the point of regulation if it doesn’t regulate?”
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_____ME: There’s nothing wrong with regulation except when the Director of a Gub-ment Bureau is then quoted as possessing the belief again in 1982 of:
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“I never have and never will approve a new drug to an individual, but only to a large pharmaceutical firm with unlimited finances.”
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Then goes on to be a VP 1984 – 1993, Director, on Corporate Board, Scientific Advisory Board, & Board of Directors of pharmaceutical companies.
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MarkL
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But, but, but, but…………………….
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December 19, 2012
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“Krebiozen, DJT is going to hate you. YOU CHEATED. You did some research before posting…………………..”
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_____ME: KreBLOGiDAMN!!!
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Narad
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December 19, 2012
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“US history isn’t my specialist subject, but wasn’t Gerald Ford US President in 1975?
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Ding! It’s from their “The Failed War on Cancer,” ah, “editorial.””
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_____ME: And numerous other sources.
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ugg
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http:// www. uggbootsvv. net/ December 19, 2012
Avoid waste your time on this website link, fully unrelated in order to conversation.
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_____ME: Don’t worry, I didn’t!
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Shay
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December 19, 2012
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@Krebiozen:
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Picky, picky, picky.
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_____ME: You don’t Shay!

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Shay
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December 19, 2012
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“(I’m referring, of course, to the dates of the Ford presidency. He only became president in August 1974 and it wasn’t a real Presidency, not really-truly. I mean, it’s not like he was elected or anything.)”
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_____ME: AND he wasn’t a Crook!
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But he did get a Presidential Pardon.
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LW
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December 19, 2012
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“Ford, Nixon, whatever. I’m surprised iDJiT didn’t say FDR declared War on Cancer in 1975.”
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_____ME: The REAL ? is, who DID declare War on Cancer?
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W. Kevin Vicklund
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December 19, 2012
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“The National Cancer Act, regarded as the beginning of the War on Cancer, was signed by Nixon…in 1971.”
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_____ME: And some sources indicate the “War” isn’t that impressive, making one wonder if their using Vietnam tactics?:
http:// www. thedailybeast. com/articles/2012/10/02/are-we-wasting-billions-seeking-a-cure-for-cancer.html
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KreBLOGdna,
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December 19, 2012
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“I haven’t finished picking yet. I’m always intrigued by these gishgallops of quotations we so often see, just like those that Squidymus has unoriginally posted here. They are often very difficult to track down, as they almost never give a source. It’s sometimes worth a try though, as they often do not say quite what we are led to think, so…
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Moving on to the inventor of DNA:
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Dr. James Watson: “The war on cancer is a bunch of sh*t.”
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I can’t find a date, a context or indeed a source for this alleged quote. Watson said a lot of things, often they seem to have been designed to shock, some of them were downright foolish (even racist), so it wouldn’t surprise me if he said this. What he meant by it is anyone’s guess.
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As Narad pointed out I, the quotes Squidymus has laid upon us in his latest comment come from a ‘People Against Cancer’ newsletter. ‘People Against Cancer’ is an organization headed by Frank Wiewel which opposes conventional cancer treatments and supports alternative ones.
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One quote which I won’t bother to repeat (essentially it’s “Help, help, we’re being repressed”), is from Frank Wiewel himself. He is described as:
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Former Chairman, Pharmacological & Biological Treatments Committee, Office of Alternative Medicine, National Institutes of Health.
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Here’s what Quackwatch has to say about Weiwel:
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PAC’s founder and president is Frank D. Wiewel, whose father-in-law was a patient of Lawrence Burton, Ph.D., the developer of immuno-augmentative therapy (IAT). Wiewel began his cancer-related activities as president of the IAT Patient’s Association, Inc. (IATPA), which was formed in 1985. IATPA’s original purpose was to promote IAT, but its scope gradually expanded to include other dubious cancer methods. In 1990, it was renamed People Against Cancer. In 1991, during a deposition, Wiewel testified that he had completed two years of college, studying liberal arts subjects, and had no training in science, medicine, pharmacy, microbiology, physiology, oncology or hematology.
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Wiewel helped persuade Iowa Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) to spearhead passage of a 1991 law establishing the NIH Office of Unconventional Treatment (now called the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine) and served on the advisory board for six years.
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Weiwel was partly responsible for the founding of NCCAM, and is not a reliable source of information about cancer and its treatment.
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“For much of history, the cancer war has been fighting the wrong battles, with the wrong weapons, against the wrong enemies.” – Devra Lee Davis, member National Academy of Sciences, The Secret History of the War on Cancer.
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What does Davis mean? Perhaps the rest of the quote might help?
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The campaign has targeted the disease and left off the table the things that cause it – tobacco, alcohol, the workplace, and other environmental hazards.
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Davis is calling for a closer look at the causes of cancer, not complaining that brave maverick doctors like Burzynski have the answers.
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“Everyone should know that the war on cancer is largely a fraud, and the National Cancer Institute & the American Cancer Society are derilict in their duties to the people who support them.” – Linus Pauling, 2-time Nobel Laureate
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Sadly Pauling, who was once a hero of mine for his work in biochemistry, succumbed to Nobel disease later in his life, and grew increasingly frustrated that no one else seemed to recognize the benefits of humungous doses of vitamin C, so sadly he might have said this. I don’t think Pauling was a reliable source of information on cancer or its treatment either.”
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_____ME: Sure, “Quackwatch” is such a reliable source!
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And that Pauling guy only lived to be 93.
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Narad
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December 19, 2012
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“And…
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Frank Wiewel, Former Chairman, Pharmacological & Biological Treatments Committee, Office of Alternative Medicine, National Institutes of Health.
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Frank Wiewel’s scientific credentials begin and end with being bassist and a singer for the Iowa band The Hawks, after which point hijinks began to ensue. Great argument by aphoristic authority there, Diddles.”
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____ME: Says NaraDenial, who thinks Denial is a river in Egypt!
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Narad
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December 19, 2012
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“Beaten to the punch, I see.”
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_____ME: You may have been beaten to the punch, but it obviously didn’t prevent you from partaking of the spiked punch you’ve been drinking!
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How’s the flavored Kool-Aide?
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LW
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December 19, 2012
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“Everyone should know that the war on cancer is largely a fraud, and the National Cancer Institute & the American Cancer Society are derilict in their duties to the people who support them.” – Linus Pauling, 2-time Nobel Laureate
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I’ll bet that Linus Pauling, unlike iDJiT, could spell derelict.”
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_____ME: Unlike LazyWanker, Pauling won 2 Nobel prizes (Chemistry & Peace);
http:// www. nobelprize. org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1962/pauling-bio.html
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Narad
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December 19, 2012
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“Dr. James Watson: “The war on cancer is a bunch of sh*t.”
I can’t find a date, a context or indeed a source for this alleged quote.
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It’s fantastic that Wiewel considers Watson and Pauling to be his “colleagues.” Anyway, the frequntly accompanying “bill of goods” line (without the “nasty”) appears in the Nov./Dec. New Ecologist, at least.”
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_____ME: Unlike NaraDNA, that Watson guy has been researching cancer for over 20 years.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_D._Watson
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Narad
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December 19, 2012
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“Oh, silly me, the target quote is right on page 188.”
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_____ME: If you found THAT, maybe you can find THIS:
http:// www. achievement. org/autodoc/page/wat0bio-1
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Narad
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December 19, 2012
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“One gets it earlier, in 1977 (there should have been a “1978″ above), in Ruth Rosenbaum’s “Cancer, Inc.” (PDF).
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Dr. James Watson: “The war on cancer is a bunch of sh*t.”
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I am happy to believe that the ‘war on cancer’ was a politically-driven waste of resources throughout the 1970s, with a lot of throwing-money tactics. But what does that have to do with Burzynski’s quackery?
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the Nov./Dec. New Ecologist, at least
That is an entertaining article. In the context of arguing that more effort should be invested researching the journal’s obsessions of diet & nutrition, the author inadvertently points out that the whole diet / cancer angle was researched exhaustively — back when everyone hewed to the holistic / life-style paradigm because nothing better was available — and nothing came of it.
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“In the nineteen forties one half of sponsored research on cancer concerned diet.”
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You would have thought that if the diet angle dominated research for decades before people finally gave up and moved on to new directions, that would tell the author something, but in the author’s mind it only indicated bigpharmasuppressingcureforcancer.”
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_____ME: And THIS:
http:// www. cshl. edu/gradschool/Non-Research-Faculty/james-d-watson
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Narad
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December 19, 2012
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“That is an entertaining article.
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I was surprised to find an ad for Yukon Jack in the Rosenbaum New Times. Sometimes I think I’m it’s only surviving defender.”
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_____ME: It’s good to see you enjoy talking to yourself.
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On the “sauce” again?
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Narad
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December 19, 2012
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“The frequent pairing of the “bill of goods” line with the “a bunch of Diddums” one suggests that this NYT item might be worth a look, but I’m not a subscriber. It all seems to go back to the 1975 MIT appearance.”
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_____ME: Maybe it should lead here:
http:// www. dnalc. org/view/16437-Biography-19-James-Dewey-Watson-1928-.html

“How’s the flavored Kool-Aide?” – Bo Squiddly

We can’t tell, ’cause you won’t share it.

Squidymus,

KrapzBLOGas, did you have a point?

Yes, essentially you are full of cr@p. You are too gutless to clearly state your position and support it with evidence, lack the maturity to take responsibility when you get something wrong, and appear to be incapable of having a rational adult discussion.

You were wrong about the math. You were wrong about Galileo. You were wrong about Watson. You were wrong about late responders. You were wrong about spontaneous remission. You were wrong about the FDA approving a Phase 3 study. You were wrong about the Phase 3 study protocol demanding that the subjects have had radiotherapy. You were wrong about the results of Phase 2 studies being published. You were wrong about the Japanese research. You were wrong about Jodi Fenton’s miraculously disappearing tumor. You don’t understand what “cherry picking” means. You can’t even tell a reliable source from a YouTube video or a piece of advertising fluff from a movie-making publicist.

There’s much, much more evidence that you are an ignorant poltroon, but I’m not wasting any more of my time on you.

12/19 Comments:
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_____novalox
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December 19, 2012
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Man, I need some more popcorn, djt’s latest self-humiliation and embarrassment made for some good entertainment.
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_____ME: Make sure you get the kind with lots of cheese, since it’ll knock the Bull Spoor right out of you!
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Narad
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December 19, 2012
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“Which begs the question of your age & if you even know what bing, Safari, Mercury, yahoo, IMDB & Multisearch are.
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Holy f*ck.”
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_____ME: In Vietnam that’d be “Holy Phouc!”
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AdamG
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December 19, 2012
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“says the person who thinks 7 minus 5 = 0.2%!
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ooooh, burn.”
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_____ME: Little Jimmy’s been told to stop playing with fire!
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LW
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In a place where people know history and arithmetic
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December 19, 2012
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“iDJiT denies claiming that Galileo was persecuted for claiming the Earth is round. So I searched for the word Galileo on this page.
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Here is iDJiT on Dec 8:
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Yep, we know Science picks sides from:
Galileo – the Earth is round.
Ignaz Semmelweis – wash your hands between the time you deliver a baby & do an autopsy & deliver a baby, unless you like sending people “Down Under.”
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Clearly iDJiT was drawing a parallel between Semmelweis’ saying physicians should wash their hands, and Galileo’s fantasized saying that the Earth is round.
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No one mentioned the name Galileo again until iDJiT on Dec 11:
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I wonder if Galileo ever let FACTS get in the way of SCIENCE? (Or Orac?)
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Still no one mentioned Galileo until iDJiT on Dec 15:
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Mephistopheles O’Brien, the other day I went back in a Time Machine & met a guy who said his name was Galileo & he said the Earth was Round.
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It looked flat to me. There was water around, Galileo said I could sail around the World for $150,000. I asked if his ship was safe; he said it was. I asked to see his test protocols and results to see if it was more likely I’d arrive safely, die on impact, or be flung into the abyss; he said it was effective but would not produce the data I looked for.
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Should I, or should I not, tell others that there’s no proof that this man’s protocol is safe and effective?
[various drivel and insults omitted]
There’s no doubt in my mind that if you were alive when Galileo was around, you would’ve been clamoring that he was a “Heritic” & should be burned at the stake because he hath no Clinical Trials that I can see because I can’t bother myself to look, I am like a balloon full of hot air, sallying forth on the currents of the wind, yammering on a out HTML, WordPress,
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There is no other way of reading this than a comparison between Galileo’s fantasized claim that the Earth is round and his fantasized inability to prove it, versus Burzynski’s real claim of being able to cure cancer and his real inability to prove it.
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Face it, iDJiT, you said it and we all know it.”
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_____ME: LowWider, do you know what “Beating a Dead Horse” means?
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Please cite the post & date where I allegedly denied:
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“…claiming that Galileo was persecuted for claiming the Earth is round.”
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LW
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December 19, 2012
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“For those who may have missed it, here’s how to compute the survival rate if five survive out of seven, the iDJiT way:
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If you had 7 patients you could call that: 70%.
5 successful patients would then be: 50%
Change 70% to: 100% (by adding 30%)
Change 50% to: 80% (by adding 30%)
80% minus 100% = 20%
So 20 deaths out of 100 = 80% survival rate.
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I am not joking.”
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_____ME: LoudWhiner, do you have a point?
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I am not joking.
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Alain
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December 19, 2012
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“@ LW,
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Something doesn’t compute with your rendition of DidySquat math (and he’s far from computing itself) but perhaps I can blame that on my flu (which I’m treating with gin, honey and lemon juice) but….you jump from percentages to absolute numbers and even the percentages look iffy; how did you come up with these numbers from DidySquat’s posts?”
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Alain
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_____ME: LordWoo is the Master of iWOOsion!
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Methinks LordWooWoo protesteth too mucheth!
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LW
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December 19, 2012
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“Alain, your flu is not to blame. I kid you not, that “computation” is in blockquote because I copied it from one of the iDJiT’s droppings over on the “Stanislaw Burzynski: “Personalized gene-targeted cancer therapy” for dummies” post.”
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_____ME: And yet The Lord of The Woo doesn’t answer the question:
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“… but….you jump from percentages to absolute numbers and even the percentages look iffy;…”
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Narad
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December 19, 2012
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“I suppose that a pedantic type might also note that not only is the foregoing not what “begs the question” means, it’s not even really an example of the idiomatic misuse.”
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_____ME: Exclaimith the Lord of No Answer Regarding Answer Denied (N.a.r.a.d.).
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Narad
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December 20, 2012
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_____”Burzyinski has claimed that he can cure cancer more reliably and with fewer side effects than the current standard of care. If he can do it – great. He needs to prove it. But just because I cannot do what he claims to be able to do doesn’t mean I should keep silent about his inability to prove his claims.”
Citing no “SOURCE” to back up such claims, no indication that you’ve reviewed any of the Clinical Trail publications, citing no law or regulation you’re relying on, no indication that you’ve reviewed CFR 21 (Title 21), Chapter I, Subchapter F [blah, blah, blah]
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More pretend-lawyer “HILARITY.” Leaving aside the fact that this response is … well, not responsive, 21 CFR 600 has no bearing on anything except for the fact that Burzynski was boned for inadequate GMP.”
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_____ME: Saith Lord Nairy A Reply About Denial (N.a.r.a.d.)
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Who thinks it’s the responsibility of Lord Not a Rational Answer Declared N.a.r.a.d.) for interjecting the Lordship into a question not even posed to Lord Nonsensical And Ranting About Dissimulation (N.a.r.a.d.)
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Mephistopheles O’Brien
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December 20, 2012
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“Citing no “SOURCE” to back up such claims, no indication that you’ve reviewed any of the Clinical Trail publications, citing no law or regulation you’re relying on, no indication that you’ve reviewed CFR 21 (Title 21), Chapter I, Subchapter F, re Confidentiality of certain data, Confidential Trade Secret data, Confidential Commercial data, Confidential Business data, Confidential Exemptions, or offering any explanation as to why the FDA authorized Phase II & Phase III Clinical Trials if SRB was not providing the data that is required by law or regulation.
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Dude, really? According to the Burzinsky Research Institute’s web site’s descriptions of antineoplastons, “Dr. Burzynski believes these substances counteract the development of cancerous growth through a biochemical process which does not inhibit the growth of normal tissues.” They also claim to be producing “targeted gene therapies (antineoplastons or ANP) for the treatment of cancer.” This certainly sounds like they’re saying they have fewer side effects. The fact that they are trying to introduce a new set of drugs to the market certainly suggests they believe those treatments are more effective, safer, or both than the current standard of care.
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I can’t imagine how you found a request for evidence of effectiveness and safety to be so offensive. It’s nothing I wouldn’t ask of any other drug. They have not yet proven that the drug is effective or safe (which at the very least is the position of the NCI based on the site you conveniently provided) – indeed, several patients left the trials due to toxicity issues (once again, see the NCI link).
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And I never claimed that Burzynsky did not provide the data required in order to have his phase III protocols approved (when will those trials open again?), merely that he did not provide sufficient data to show that the treatment is safe and effective.”
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_____ME: Dude, really?
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Are YOU asking the questions NOW or is The Lord Nonsuch Apparent Reason Avoiding Response (N.a.r.a.d.), above?
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What makes you think I’ve even bothered to go on that web-site?
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Who is “they?” Cancer . gov?
http:// www. cancer. gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/antineoplastons/healthprofessional/page6
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Which trials? Those invalid NCI trials?
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I guess the FDA must think they are safe & effective enough to proceed to Initiate Pivotal Phase III Trial.
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Have you looked on ClinicalTrialsFeeds . org?:
http:// clinicaltrialsfeeds. org/clinical-trials/results/spons=%22Burzynski+Research+Institute%22

@Didymus Judas Thomas – There is a significant difference between being the discoverer of DNA and the discoverer of the structure of DNA. Based on the article you referenced, which of those is Watson?

@Diddums

Who is “they?” Cancer . gov?
http:// www. cancer. gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/antineoplastons/healthprofessional/page6

Nice try, but no phase II clinical results there.

Have you looked on ClinicalTrialsFeeds . org?:
http:// clinicaltrialsfeeds. org/clinical-trials/results/spons=%22Burzynski+Research+Institute%22

No, no clinical results there either (surprise, surprise).

In fact that site neatly highlights that Burzynski hasn’t updated many of his trials for nearly 5 years. I guess the patients are either dead, broke or both so who cares eh diddums?
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I guess the FDA must think they are safe & effective enough to proceed to Initiate Pivotal Phase III Trial.

As has been pointed out before, the phase III trial protocol was approved under SPA by the FDA some time back, but Burzynski will still need to provide efficacy evidence before being granted an IND and being allowed to proceed. Is that why the phase III never really started?

Anyhow, you lie when you say the FDA must have received evidence of efficacy because they approved a phase III trial. They haven’t, they merely approved the putative trial protocol.
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I think my position’s been clear from the beginning and is quite consistent with the NCI.

1. There is as yet insufficient evidence to say that antineoplaston therapy is safe and effective.

2. Based on what I’ve read and what others with far more medical knowledge than I have read, the stuff that’s been published to date is not adequate to prove antineoplaston treatment is either safer or more effective than the current standard of care.

3. Case studies showing apparent good results in 4-9 patients are interesting but insufficient. They are prone to produce misleading results which may be refuted by later tests.

4. Just because I can’t cure cancer myself does not mean I cannot critique those who claim to be able to, but have not proven their ability.

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_____Narad

December 20, 2012
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“I don’t think DJT can reason at all.”
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_____ME: And here I was thinking you couldn’t restate the obvious!

I guess that takes care of that.
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_____ME: Yep! I wonder who CAN reason with YOU!!
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_____Mephistopheles O’Brien
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December 20, 2012
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“Mephistopheles is an Arch-Devil of Hell.
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Well, yes, I knew that. So, what, you think to taunt me for my choice of ‘nym (no, I won’t pretend that’s my given name)? Was there a point there?”
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_____ME: I thought the Devil knew everything! Doesn’t he communicate with you?
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_____Narad
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December 20, 2012
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“So are you indicating that you have reviewed 1 or more of these 10 publications
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I believe that everyone is well familiarized with the numbered list that apparently keeps you glued together.”
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_____ME: Do you know what silence equates to?
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Either “YES,” you have reviewed at least 1, or “NO,” you have NOT reviewed at least 1 of the publications.
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It’s a pretty simple process for MOST people.
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novalox
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December 20, 2012
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“”Keep posting djt, the more you post here, the less you post to your vulnerable marks.
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And also, your stupidity is soooo amusing. I just may need another bag of popcorn to watch this.”
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_____ME: Make sure it’s popcorn with cheese so it’ll knock the “BULL CACA” out of you!
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_____AdamG
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December 20, 2012
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“Round and round we go….
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Didy, if I took 2400 classes, and 2 out of my 7 best grades were B’s, what percent of courses did I get an A in?”
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_____ME: AdamG, I can’t envision you taking ANY classes since you can’t even exert the necessary energy to answer my questions.
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_____AdamG
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December 20, 2012
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“Watson didn’t discover DNA. He also never said the quote you’ve attributed to him, unless you’re able to prove otherwise.”
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“While you’re at it:
If I took 2400 classes, and 2 out of my 7 best grades were B’s, what percent of courses did I get an A in?”
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_____ME: How the H-E-double hockey sticks are you going to be able to take a class if you can’t even research that Dr. Watson was a Discoverer of DNA?
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_____LW
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December 20, 2012
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“The amazingly tedious halfwit besmirching the name Didymus Judas Thomas keeps switching threads, so for the benefit of any new lurkers who wonder why the numbers 5, 7, 0.2%, and 2400, keep being mentioned, here are the assumptions and conclusions I used to get the number 0.2%, from the other thread:
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1) By 1993 Burzynski had treated approximately 2400 patients.
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2) Burzynski needed to produce seven “best case scenario” patients.
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3) a patient that survives is a better “best case scenario” that a patient who died of the disease.
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4) Therefore Burzynski would produce seven patients who survived if he could.
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5) Burzynski produced only five patients who survived, and two who did not.
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6) Therefore Burzynski could not produce more than five patients who survived.
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7) Therefore no more than five patients out of approximately 2400 actually survived.
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8 ) 5/2400 is approximately 0.00208, rounded to 0.2%.
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Now you can argue that there were more survivors but Burzynski had no records for them, but that is a condemnation of Burzynski in itself.
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You can also argue that there were more survivors but they refused to consent to release of their records, but why would they do that? We’re supposed to believe that they believed they owed their lives to him. Why wouldn’t they consent to release of their records to save his license so he could save more patients like them?
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So, as I finished before, what other reason is there for Burzynski not to produce seven patients who survived, out of thousands treated?”
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_____ME: Already asked & answered you braying in the breeze Major Math Malfunction.
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You stretch the credibleness of your brain process.
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If we ASSUME your 2,400 & you pick 7 out of that group, & 2 die, then you have 5 survivors.

Breaking it down into “Math for Dummies” for your benefit:
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100% of 2 ,400 = 2,400
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If out of every group of 7 people, 2 died, that leaves more than 50% of the patients surviving, which would be more than the above 50% of 2,400 = 1,200.
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1,200 survivors out of 2,400 would NOT be 0.2%.
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It would be 50%.
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So it could then be theorized that there were MORE survivors than 1,200 (50%) & thus more survivors than 0,2%.
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That disproves your theory without even having to use any further mathematical manipulation of one’s gray matter.
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7 minus 5 does NOT = 0.2%.
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You do not know SRB’s thinking process & why those 7 examples were chosen by SRB, & neither do I.
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You are just “speculating,” “guessing,” “theorizing,”…
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Based on your calculations one would think that there would have been considerable more “flap” about such results by the FDA & more outcry from the public & witnesses relating positive experiences to the prosecution in court re SRB as reported in the Media, and:
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The Harvard legal case review note 50:
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“Only approximately 300 of what were formerly thousands of patients are allowed to be treated currently under very close FDA scrutiny.”
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herr doktor bimler
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December 20, 2012
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Dr. James Watson, discoverer of DNA
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Please continue, Gubbiner.
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_____ME: Already addressed, but thanks for asking!
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Narad
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December 20, 2012
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_____ME: JGC, if you are going to claim that none of those publications contains Clinical Trial data, & that the 2/29/2012 10-K filing with the SEC doesn’t support the Clinical Trial data for legal purposes:

I could swear that I’ve pointed out that this entire line of babbling would collapse if it actually had something to land on to start with.
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_____ME: Are you referring to your babbling?” 🙂
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_____flip
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December 20, 2012
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@Orac
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I know it’s hard to follow this thread, but you let some real actual spam through… Might want to delete that post.
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_____ME: Your SPAM has been going through! 😉

@djt

Keep posting, little fool. I am certainly enjoying how often you make a fool of yourself.

And yawn, why should I bother with your empty threats. I bet you couldn’t hurt a fly, your threats are so blase.

@flip

Got another batch of popcorn ready, for the entertainment djt the fool provides.

@Diddums

If we ASSUME your 2,400 & you pick 7 out of that group, & 2 die, then you have 5 survivors.

Breaking it down into “Math for Dummies” for your benefit:
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100% of 2 ,400 = 2,400
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If out of every group of 7 people, 2 died, that leaves more than 50% of the patients surviving, which would be more than the above 50% of 2,400 = 1,200.
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1,200 survivors out of 2,400 would NOT be 0.2%.
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It would be 50%.
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So it could then be theorized that there were MORE survivors than 1,200 (50%) & thus more survivors than 0,2%.
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That disproves your theory without even having to use any further mathematical manipulation of one’s gray matter.
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7 minus 5 does NOT = 0.2%

You are a moron. Burzynski did not pick out 7 patients and the have 2 die. He was asked to put forward his 7 bestcase scenarios out of the 2400 he had treated to that date.

His OWN choice of bestcase scenarios was 5 survivors and 2 who had died died.

So it IS 5 survivors out of 2400, or roughly 0.2% at the time of that review.

This is abysmal even by your low, low standards. It could not even be described as sophistry because sophistry demands plausibility.

Do you honestly believe that your Math (or your logic) is correct?

*facepalm*

oooops – the following lines from above should NOT be part of the blockquote;

You are a moron. Burzynski did not pick out 7 patients and the have 2 die. He was asked to put forward his 7 bestcase scenarios out of the 2400 he had treated to that date.

His OWN choice of bestcase scenarios was 5 survivors and 2 who had died died.

So it IS 5 survivors out of 2400, or roughly 0.2% at the time of that review.

This is abysmal even by your low, low standards. It could not even be described as sophistry because sophistry demands plausibility.

Do you honestly believe that your Math (or your logic) is correct?

*facepalm*

This is truly silly. Today the iDJiT says to me,

Please cite the post & date where I allegedly denied:
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“…claiming that Galileo was persecuted for claiming the Earth is round.”

Uh, okay, cool. Have it your way. You didn’t deny claiming that Galileo was persecuted for claiming the Earth is round. And we all laughed at you for claiming that Galileo was persecuted for claiming the Earth is round.

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_____Narad
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December 20, 2012
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Watson didn’t discover DNA. He also never said the quote you’ve attributed to him, unless you’re able to prove otherwise.

Given that Squidymus has previously touted the elephantine orchitis (tinEO) that allowed him to personally contact Merola, which was no doubt a regular Plateau Sigma sort of endeavor, perhaps he could hoist things up and drop a query to Cold Spring.

_____ME: How ’bout you prove that Watson was NOT a Discoverer of DNA based on my previous posts on the subject, oh Boy Genius!
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_____flip
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Searching for Intelligent popcorn on an alleged supermarket aisle
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December 20, 2012
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@Squidymus
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_____ME: flipperoo, intelligent popcorn isn’t going to help you.
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And I’m getting close to thinking that flipperpuss is an Edgar Allan Poe, since these flipRants sound like the ramblings of a drug user!
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Mmmmm, someone hasn’t figured out how to google ‘Poe’ yet…. Or what satire is.
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_____ME: Why would I Google Poe when I don’t even Google myself?
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I find it interesting that people assume ‘flip’ is short for flippant. It’s not. It’s a character from a play; consider flip to be of the surfing dude variety.
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_____ME: The only ones I see ASSUMING ’round here are the Tu-QuackerOats.
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But you know, it’s also good for showing cranks for what they really are. People who like to fill in the blanks with their own assumptions.
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_____ME: Sez 1 of the Anarchists of Assumed Assumptions.
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Your experience is absolutely more “credible” than his!!
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Keep building that strawman honey, you’ve almost reached the moon with that one.
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_____ME: He has actually researched cancer for years.

Definitely, let’s go with you & your group of “Geniuses” instead of people like Dr. James Watson, discoverer of DNA & involved in the Human Genome Mapping Project.
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Oh, so Dr James Watson has some peer-reviewed papers published showing the efficacy and safety of antineoplastons? If so, I’ll definitely look at the link for that. And if not, well, he’s pretty much irrelevant to the issue of Burzyinski and his trials, isn’t he?
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_____ME: He’s relevant even though you’re irreverent since it’s fair to say he’s more knowledgeable about the supposed “War on Cancer” than you.
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I think I need to bring back the generator; or at the very least, continue to use Captain Haddock insults. And with that, I add the appropriate cry of…. “Abecedarian!”
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_____ME: Try “Flippirrelevantidiomism!”
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@Narad
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Which begs the question of your age & if you even know what bing, Safari, Mercury, yahoo, IMDB & Multisearch are.
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Holy f*ck.
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Exactly what I was thinking. Heck, I’m a few decades, at least, younger than most of the regulars here. And yet, somehow I doubt Squidymus knows what Netscape is. Or what a dongle looks like. And I know even both of those things are pretty ‘new’ in the scheme of IT development. Which is to say nothing of course of the obvious talents of various coders of such regulars as yourself. One truly wonders how old Squidy is.
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_____ME: What you do in the bathroom is YOUR business, so I don’t want to hear about your “Netscaping!”
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And I DEFINITELY do not want anything to do with your “dongle!!”
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I could swear that I’ve pointed out that this entire line of babbling would collapse if it actually had something to land on to start with.
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_____ME: And yet you continue babbling!!!
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He does have a certain supernova quality to his posts…
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_____ME: That’s what Rob Thomas said.
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… Does Squidymus think that simply posting the citations is enough? Maybe this little troll has only gotten far enough in their education to have recently been taught about bibliographies, and hasn’t worked out that you can’t just add citations at will – they have to actually back up your statements.
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_____ME: I am obviously doing much better at it than your “IT.”
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I’m so glad I brought my jumbo-sized popcorn. Looks like we’ll be here for a while
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_____ME: Make sure you pop it with a load of cheese so you can take a “load” off!
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Narad
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December 20, 2012
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I regret to report that I actually still have a PCI dongle on the premises. It’s a long story.
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_____ME: Really … I’m sure no one here wants to hear about your Politically Correctly Incorrect dongle!
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_____LW
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December 20, 2012
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I still think the iDJiT is about fifteen and just started doing debate. In my one year of debate, we would run into these types who thought that debate consisted of quoting from authorities.
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_____ME: You being able to debate anything is debateable.
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Surprisingly often, debaters would quote authority A to say fact F is true and later authority B to say fact F is false. I would argue that fact F cannot be both true and false so their argument was incoherent, and they would respond that I had not defeated their point since I had not quoted an authority to say that fact F cannot be both true and false. I never could get them to grasp that you don’t need authority to support simple logic. Fortunately judges understood that, which is why we won so often.
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_____ME: Judging by your performance here, it’s logical to say your Full of “IT.”
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The iDJiT similarly demands authority for simple division, mere questions, and elementary logical deductions.
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_____ME: Logic is Logically NOT your forte.
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herr doktor bimler
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December 20, 2012
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you can’t just add citations at will – they have to actually back up your statements.
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It also helps to actually aver some statements
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_____ME: Rarely do I aver feel the need to aver. I have an aversion to that.
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MarkL
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December 20, 2012
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@Diddums
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Definitely, let’s go with you & your group of “Geniuses” instead of people like Dr. James Watson, discoverer of DNA & involved in the Human Genome Mapping Project.
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Your experience is absolutely more “credible” than his!!
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Oh boy, I am losing the will to live (but I am guessing that that is diddums aim). It is like watching one of the lesser primates in a zoo lose its temper and start to fling its own feces around the cage.
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_____ME: So you’ve met agashem?
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How are Watson’s oft quoted (but never accurately sourced) words supposed to show support for the brave fraud? How do they pertain to your argument in support of the brave maverick?
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_____ME: As I’ve posted before, Watson has like 20 years of cancer research experience & understands the alleged “War on Cancer.”
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SEC filings as clinical evidence? hahahaha – sure, in the same way Crick, Wilkins and Watson won the Nobel prize after their 1953 tax returns proved the double helix theory.
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_____ME: And I expect no less from you since nowhere did I claim the SEC filing was “clinical evidence,” since I can read & extrapolate information; which seems to be a foreign concept to you.
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*facepalm*
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You don’t get it do you? Even if you post links to every single document Stan has produced from the time he started high school, they will not be evidence of efficacy. ONLY the full results from some his 60+ phase II trials can start to provide such evidence. Anything else is just so much wilted word salad and irrelevant.
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_____ME: So … basically, like your posts!

We’re still waiting to be pointed to a single published clinical report, from a completed Phase II trial conducted by Burzynski, which supports the claim antineoplastons safely and effectively treat advanced cancers.

So the upshot of all DJT’s blathering is that he doesn’t like anyone else here.

Oh………… and that he STILL has NO evidence of efficacy to show us.

This is by no means authoritative, but if you look up DNA in Wikipedia, you’ll find reference to Meischer isolating DNA in 1869 and Kossel identifying nucleic acids in 1878. Watson & Crick dind’t publish until 1953. I’d say they were 84 years too late to claim discovery of DNA, though their work in determining the structure was brilliant.

Okay, I’m going to answer this because I believe that some small rational piece of Didymus Judas Thomas’ mind, suppressed and all but smothered, truly wants to know what’s wrong with this calculation. Here is how to compute the survival rate if five survive out of seven, the Didymus Judas Thomas way:

If you had 7 patients you could call that: 70%.
5 successful patients would then be: 50%
Change 70% to: 100% (by adding 30%)
Change 50% to: 80% (by adding 30%)
80% minus 100% = 20%
So 20 deaths out of 100 = 80% survival rate.

Didymus Judas Thomas asks courteously, “do you have a point?”

Yes, I do have a point. It is that Didymus Judas Thomas is profoundly ignorant of basic arithmetic, besides being ignorant of the history of science, barely literate, and not housebroken. Anyone who responds to him should probably know what we are dealing with.

Alain, not surprisingly bewildered by this “computation”, says,

@ LW,

Something doesn’t compute with your rendition of DidySquat math (and he’s far from computing itself) but perhaps I can blame that on my flu (which I’m treating with gin, honey and lemon juice) but….you jump from percentages to absolute numbers and even the percentages look iffy; how did you come up with these numbers from DidySquat’s posts?

Here is the point at which I think that tiny rational piece of Didymus Judas Thomas’s mind got control of its fingers briefly and typed,

And yet The Lord of The Woo doesn’t answer the question:
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“… but….you jump from percentages to absolute numbers and even the percentages look iffy;…”

Actually I did answer the question, what was “how did you come up with these numbers from DidySquat’s posts?”; the answer was, “I copied it from one of the iDJiT’s droppings over on the “Stanislaw Burzynski: ‘Personalized gene-targeted cancer therapy’ for dummies” post.” Just go to that post and search for “If you had 7 patients”, without the quotes of course.

But I think that tiny rational piece of Didymus Judas Thomas’ mind wants to know what is wrong with the “computation”. Everyone else already knows, of course, but for the benefit of that small suppressed rational piece, I will answer. This requires reading Didymus Judas Thomas’ mind, and I generally confine my mind-reading to friends at close range, but I’ll do my best.

I think that Didymus Judas Thomas dimly recalls from last semester’s math class that somehow you turn 7 into 100, and if you do exactly the same thing to 5 as you do to 7, you get the percentage. This is actually right, if you know how to correctly turn 7 into 100. The trouble is that, having no idea how to proceed, Didymus Judas Thomas begins by adding a zero to the end of each number. This is equivalent to multiplying each by 10, which isn’t wrong but isn’t especially helpful. Being now totally at loss as to what to do next, he adds 30 to both numbers, still faithfully doing the same thing to each, and that gives him 100 and 80, which seems to him to imply that 5 is 80% of 7.

The error is that in computing a percentage you can safely multiply both sides by the same number, because a percentage is another way of writing a ratio, but you cannot safely add the same number to both sides. I suggest to Didymus Judas Thomas that he notice that 70-50 = 100-80. Adding the same number to both sides does not change the difference.

What you need to do is change 7 into 100 solely by multiplication. So we need a number to multiply 7 by to give us 100. That number is represented as 100/7, and you can get it by typing 100 into your calculator, hitting the divide key, typing 7, and then hitting the equals key. That number is 14.28571428571429. Now, just hit the multiply key and type 5, then hit the equals key. That gives you 71.42857142857143. We can round that to 71.4 and say that 5 is 71.4% of 7. We write the computation as 5*100/7. This is usually written as 100*5/7, which means the same thing.

Knowing how to compute this, you can now move on to something harder, like, what is 5 as a percentage of 2400? We do this exactly the same way: type 100 into the calculator, hit the divide key, type 2400, and hit equals. That gives you 0.0416666666666667. Now hit the multiply key, type 5, and hit the equals key, and you get 0.2083333333333333, which we can round to 0.2, so we can say that 5 is about 0.2% of 2400. We would write this as 5*100/2400 or 100*5/2400. Notice there is a pattern here.

I hope that helps.

@ LW,

Yep, it does help greatly. your number look right.

Alain (cepacol and orange juice today).

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_____Antaeus Feldspar
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December 20, 2012
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KreBLOGintent:
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_____”What specifically has Orac said that isn’t factually true?”
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As an individual with an inquisitive brain, the first thing I noticed about Orac’s “REVIEW” is that it has the definite air of having been cherry-picked.
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I’ve never been shy about letting readers know exactly what I think of certain biased “Cherry-Picking” “reviews.”

Saying that something is “cherry-picked” doesn’t mean it isn’t factually true.

An example of cherry-picking would be boasting about what a good shot is by saying “Why, the other day at the range, he put a round right in the dead center of the bullseye!” That might be totally factually true but if it was only one of 500 rounds fired and it was the only round that actually hit the target, talking only about that one round and not the others is cherry-picking.

Note that it’s not always “cherry-picking” to examine a small set out of a much larger set. If Person A says “This principle always holds true!” and Person B wants to show that the principle doesn’t always hold true, it’s perfectly legitimate for Person B to show a counter-example. If Person A wants to say “this bowl will hold the liquid we pour into it,” it’s not cherry-picking for Person B to point out one spot that has a hole.

When someone comes out and makes an extraordinary claim such as “I have a cure for cancer that’s superior to everything else currently in use!” it’s not enough for them to prove most elements of their claim. They must prove all elements of their claim. If someone comes along and points out a place where their claim falls apart, it doesn’t mean the person doing the pointing out is “cherry-picking”; it means the person making the claim shouldn’t have made such an extravagant claim without solid evidence.

_____Orac:
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“…I have to wonder whether Dr. Burzynski just hired Merola to make an infomercial”
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” Merola claims the movie was his idea, but I have a hard time believing it.”
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_____Orac, who attaches an article to his blog where Merola clearly states his motivation, and it WASN’T being hired by SRB!!

Diddums seems to be attempting the following sorites:
1) No one, even people taking dishonest actions, ever offers dishonest accounts of why they took those actions.
2) Merola claimed a totally aboveboard motivation for making his Burzynski infomercial.
3) Therefore Merola’s motivation for making his Burzynski infomercial was totally aboveboard.
4) Orac does not believe that Merola’s motivation for making his Burzynski infomercial was totally aboveboard.
5) Therefore, Orac is completely ignorant and all his testimony is impeached.
The problem is of course that premise 1 is bull-doots, and therefore there’s no logical force to any part of the argument.
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_____ME: Did you actually have a relevant point in there anywhere?
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Are you now the “Apologist” for KreBLOGshazam & Orac?
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Let’s review, shall we?
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1. “Merola claims the movie was his idea, but I have a hard time believing it.”
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2. “I suppose it’s possible…”
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This makes one wonder if Orac is considering running for political office.
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I’ve heard of “waffling” before, & this would be an example of it.
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I have a hard time believing it … but I suppose it’s possible.
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1. “The short version of the story behind antineoplastons is that there is no good basic science or clinical evidence to suggest that antineoplastons have any significant activity against cancer. ”
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2. “At best, looking at the evidence, I conclude that they might have very minimal anticancer activity, and even that’s doubtful.”
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There’s no evidence to suggest that antineoplastons have any significant activity against cancer … but they might have very minimal anticancer activity.
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Well, I’m glad we got THAT out of the way!

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_____Mephistopheles O’Brien

December 20, 2012

_____Me: Well, THAT “applause/standing” thing really worked out well for you, didn’t it???

It did indeed. Thanks for noticing!

You might not ought to quit your Day Job just quite yet though.

In these days of economic uncertainty, unless you’re independently wealthy or have a killer idea for an entrepreneurial venture that will take your full time that’s reasonable advice. Thanks.
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_____ME: Glad I could be of assistance! 😉
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Krebiozen
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December 20, 2012
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Squidymus,
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Are you really trying to argue that 5 expressed as a percentage of 2,400 is something other than 0.2%? The 7 patients Burzynski presented were clearly the “best case scenario” out of the 2,400 patients he had treated at that time, and 2 of them died, so it does seem appropriate to calculate the percentages this way.
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“That’s a good point. The other thing to bear in mind is that these patients had all had conventional treatment previously. Some people are late responders to chemotherapy and radiotherapy, sometimes not showing clear signs of improvement until 12 weeks after treatment.”
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_____ME: Yeah, this Doctor & the other 5 members of the FDA must have not had any reliable educational experience & work experience, so we should go with what you think because you weren’t there & therefor, you must know more than they did.
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That sentence is quite a chimera; an argument from authority followed by a strawman, mixed up with a non sequitur. It has nothing to do with anyone’s education or work experience, it has to do with what is or is not possible. They looked at these cases in 1993, but the paper I cited was published in 2006, so they may not have been aware of the possibility of late responses like this.
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_____ME: If we look at the Testimony we find:
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1. “The tumor dissolved at least microscopically; we could see it with the naked eye, but it recurred later, a year later.” (pgs. 118 – 119)
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2. “Radiation, there are some reports indicating that radiation treatment in children particularly could lead to resolution of the tumors, although I don’t know whether it is a permanent one or temporary. So when this happens it is very rare. And I have seen only isolated here and there where that has happened with radiation .” (pg. 120)
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_____Speaks for itself.
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3. “[A]ll the patients had already failed radiation because they were treated months, several months after radiation was given and had failed.” (pg. 121)
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_____So, we do not know how many months.
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4. ” the letter actually concludes that the site team concluded that there was antitumor effect from the antineoplastons.” (pg. 123)
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_____Speaks for itself.
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5. “The tumor was very large and very involved the hypothalamus, a very sensitive part of the brain cannot be operated, and had both cystic components and fleshy components, mass like. And the lesion disappeared . This patient did not have previous treatment, if I recall, other than– previous chemotherapy or radiation, and the tumor disappeared under our eyes. It was a low grade astrocytoma, wich is comparable with long survival. However, even those low grade astrocytomas, when we see them, they don’t go away even though they may permit the person to live for many years. In this particular patients case the tumor disappeared, and there was a small, tiny remnant left, small percentage of the original size. And there has been several years since then and the patient is well, I’m told.” (pg. 124)
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_____So, without the Exhibit we do not know the dates involved.
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And while your at it, go ahead swear to that in Court & send off for that Exhibit mentioned in the Testimony.

My testimony and whatever that Exhibit says is irrelevant. What is relevant are the facts:
1. Late response to radiochemotherapy in pediatric glioblastoma, Burzynski’s speciality, has been reported in the literature.
2. All the cases looked at by Dr. Patronas and his team had had previous treatment.
3. It is possible that these cases were also examples of late response to earlier treatment.
4. Therefore they are not good evidence for the efficacy of Burzynski’s treatment.

“I see that Dr. Patronas wrote:”, “I’m not aware that spontaneous remission occurs; I don’t think it does.” “He was mistaken. This review of the literature found over 6,000 cases, 4 of them brain tumor cases. It reports that about 20 cases of spontaneous remission are reported every year, but many more undoubtedly go unreported. A brief review of PubMed and Google Scholar comes up with several case studies of spontaneous regression and remission of gliomas and astrocytomas. It’s rare but by no means unknown.”
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_____ME: Great! We can all go home now!!

Dr. Patronas said that spontaneous remission does not occur, I have cited a study that found thousands of cases of spontaneous remission reported in the literature (PDF), including some brain tumor cases, therefore Dr. Patronas was mistaken. I conclude from this that is it possible that the cases Dr. Patronas and his colleagues examined were examples of spontaneous remission, and therefore they are not good evidence for the efficacy of Burzynski’s treatment.

And how many of these were pre-1993?

All of them, since the paper was published in 1989, what does this have to do with it? When someone asserts that white crows don’t exist, a single white crow will suffice to disprove the assertion. When Dr. Patronas asserted that spontaneous remission does not occur in cancer, even assuming he was specifically referring to brain tumors, the cases reported in the study I cited suffice to prove him wrong. It seems that Dr. Patronas was not familiar with the literature on spontaneous remission.

“The bottom line is that only Phase 3 clinical trials can tell us if Burzynski’s treatment really works.”
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______ME: Well, there’s something we can agree on

So you agree that we don’t know whether Burzynski’s treatment works. That’s progress I suppose. As several people have pointed out, either it does work, in which case Burzynski has kept a life-saving treatment from thousands of patients for decades, or it doesn’t work in which case he has been charging vulnerable cancer patients hundeds of thousands of dollars for false hope. Which do you think is the case?
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_____No. I am saying the above-mentioned material speaks for itself.

though I question how it is that the Gub-ment let lesser tested cancer drugs through the Express Phase II process

Which lesser tested cancer drugs are you referring to?
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_____12/19 my K-BLOGGIN’ (Part 3) post.
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& are requiring radiation as part of the Phase III Trials.

I have seen that claimed in various places , but it’s not true. The trial protocol clearly states:
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Children with or without prior RT are eligible.

Perhaps you should try checking some of your facts.
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_____The SPA Agreement: Phase III Trial of Combination Antineoplaston Therapy and Radiation Therapy

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_____MarkL
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December 20, 2012
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Good Grief!
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_____ME: This smells suspiciously like something a Tu-Quacking wanna-be Winner 15 year-old who wouldn’t know the 1st thing about Total Quality Management (TQM) would plagiarize in High School.
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_____ME: Are you really Charlie Brown? Have you seen Linus?
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_____Krebiozen
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December 20, 2012
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I have a comment in the moderation hopper. I will post a small but perhaps important highlight. The Sepia Troll suggested that the FDA:
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are requiring radiation as part of the Phase III Trials.
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I have seen that claimed in various places , but it’s not true. The trial protocol clearly states:
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Children with or without prior RT are eligible.
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_____ME: really? Really?? REALLY???

This has nothing whatsoever to do with their previous prior therapy.
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Phase III Trial of Combination Antineoplaston Therapy and Radiation Therapy, Study to Evaluate Children with Newly-Diagnosed Diffuse Intrinsic Brainstem Glioma.
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_____JGC
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December 20, 2012
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DJT, I have reviewed the citations you keep spamming your posts with–that’s why I’m aware they are not published reports of clinical trials and do not represent evidence that antineoplastons are effective at treating advanced cancers.
The SEC filing as well does not represent evidence that antineoplastons are safe or effective at treating advanced cancers.
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_____And I never indicated that the SEC filing was to be evidence of that.
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If you recall in an effort to simplify things I asked you to provide the single best piece of evidence for Buraynski’s protocol, in the form of the one published report from a completed clinical trial you believe best demonstrates Buraynski’s claim that antineoplastons are safe and effective at treating advanced cancers.
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Just provide one single, actual piece of evidence. That’s all I’m asking at this point. Your continued inability to do so–in fact, your clearly intentional decision not even to try–speaks volumes.
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_____And you continued inability to state that you’ve actually reviewed one of the publications, but only indicate you’ve reviewed the citations, indicates your clearly intentional decision not even to try-speaks volumes.
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Todd W.
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harpocratesspeaks.com December 20, 2012
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@JGC
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I’m floored that you guys have the patience to wade through DJT’s walls o’ text. Apparently the concept of brevity is lost on him/her. I noticed that buried in one of his/her screeds, DJT listed a couple papers that discuss cases plucked out from several of the phase II trials, but no papers on the trials themselves. One paper included subjects from 4 different trials!
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Note to DJT, this is not a scientifically acceptable means of reporting the results of a clinical trial. These are case series reports, apparently chosen because they appear to support Burzynski, but no controls or other data are presented.
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Oh, also, papers on in vitro studies are not representative of Phase II clinical trials, either, seeing as they are the results of testing on the bench (e.g., petri dishes, etc.), rather than testing in humans.
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_____ME: Yet I have the patience to wade through all their walls of text, their refusal to answer questions & make excuses, those who feel they need to respond for someone else, ad nauseum.
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_____LW

December 20, 2012
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@Todd W: “Apparently the concept of brevity is lost on him/her.”
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An astonishing number of concepts appear to be lost on him/her.
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_____ME: And the ability to respond to questions seems to be lost on some of the Tu-Quackers on here as I point out above, yet they want me to respond to theirs, those who provide no cites to back-up their SPAMS.
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December 20, 2012
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You really only have to wade through his posts once–he keeps offering the same poster abstracts, the same SEC filing information, etc. every few posts, as if sheer repetition can serve in lieu of evidence.
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_____ME: Which shows that you’re not paying attention as evidenced by you not responding to my questions right back at ya.
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_____LW
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December 20, 2012
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And juvenile insults. Don’t forget the juvenile insults.
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_____ME: If you can’t handle the Heat, get out of the Kitchen.
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_____MarkL
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December 20, 2012
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He actually replied to the randomly generated buzz word salad as if it was meant to mean something.
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He is just too funny. Can we keep him as a pet?
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_____ME: And that’s where you’re wrong; wouldn’t be the 1st time, while 2 posters praised you for your SPAM.
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_____Todd W.

harpocratesspeaks.com December 20, 2012
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@MarkL
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Sure, but you need to clean up after him.
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_____ME: That might be too much of a chore for him considering his inability to respond to prior questions.
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_____LW
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December 20, 2012
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@MarkL: can you get him to do tricks? I’d like to see him answer this: “if ten patients out of fourteen survive, what percentage survive?” Based on his algorithm, I’m guessing either 96% or 60%, but it would be great fun to see him show his work again.
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_____ME: Posts the person AWED by flippies SPAM.

This is funny: I’m watching Law & Order reruns on TNT. Burzynski is on it! The Taxman Cometh, original airdate May 10, 2010.

@Diddums

What exactly are you trying to point out here diddums? You seem very keen on insulting everyone, but very vague when it comes to what you are trying to prove.

What is your point? Can you express it succinctly? Because all your yards of spiel say absolutely nothing, you do not answer any questions except with totally irrelevant drivel, you just point at people and scream “dumbass”. You are not even prepared to learn, so why come here? You have provided no support for Burzynski, all you have done is convince supporters of SBM that all Burzynski fans are unhinged!

So go on – give it a go – try explaining (preferably in just a few short sentences) what your point is.

With regard to Burzynski’s much anticipated Phase 3 clinical trial. Its title is not “Phase III Trial of Combination Antineoplaston Therapy and Radiation Therapy, Study to Evaluate Children with Newly-Diagnosed Diffuse Intrinsic Brainstem Glioma” as the Sepia Troll claims. According to the the Clinical Trials website the study’s official title is. “A Randomized Phase 3 Study of Combination Antineoplaston Therapy [Antineoplastons A10 (Atengenal) and AS2-1 (Astugenal)] vs. Temozolomide in Subjects With Recurrent and / or Progressive Optic Pathway Glioma After Carboplatin or Cisplatin Therapy”. There is no mention of concurrent radiotherapy, and the word “combination” in the title refers to, “Combination antineoplaston therapy: [Antineoplaston A10 (Atengenal) and Antineoplaston AS2-1 (Astugenal)] given six times daily (open label) by subclavian vein infusion”.

There are no trials of a combination of antineoplastons and radiotherapy registered on the Clinical Trials website.

The only place I can find a reference to “Phase III Trial of Combination Antineoplaston Therapy and Radiation Therapy, Study to Evaluate Children with Newly-Diagnosed Diffuse Intrinsic Brainstem Glioma” is in a press release from the Burzynski Clinic in 2009. The FDA appear to have cleared the protocol for this study, but it was never registered with the Clinical Trials website and appears to have been abandoned.

@Krebiozen

Indeed the “Phase III Trial of Combination Antineoplaston Therapy and Radiation Therapy, Study to Evaluate Children with Newly-Diagnosed Diffuse Intrinsic Brainstem Glioma” seems to be wishful thinking on the part of Burzynski, and never had any real substance other than the guff generated by the brave maverick himself who went looking for Big Pharma partners to run the trial for him and then announced it to the (commercial) world.

More smoke and mirrors.

Antineoplaston A10 (Atengenal) and Antineoplaston AS2-1 (Astugenal)

Am I the only one who finds these attempted trade names even more hysterically funny than the usual outputs from trained marketing professionals?

Narad,

Am I the only one who finds these attempted trade names even more hysterically funny than the usual outputs from trained marketing professionals?

You’re not alone. They sound like something out of a bad 50s sci-fi movie: ‘Invasion of the Antineoplastons – evil aliens Atengenal and Astugenal from the planet Burzynski seek world domination but are defeated by the FDA’.

Seriously, though, is there any discernible provenance for the “-genal” suffix? The clumsy phoneticism of the first parts is one thing (I need to file away “Ettugenal”), and it’s not quite at the level of slapping the label “Zingo” on lidocaine, but still.

As you observed, obviously the names are sort of text-speak phonetic representations of the codes Burzynski gave them, but the “genal” part makes no sense to me at all.

According to Quackwatch A-10 (Atengenal) is 3-N-phenylacetylamino piperidine 2,6-dione (PAPD), which is insoluble, treated with alkali to make it soluble. But doing this does not create a soluble form of A-10. It simply reinserts water into the molecule and regenerates the phenylacetyl glutamine PAG (Burzynski’s AS-2.5). AS2-1 (Astugenal) is Atengal further treated with alkali which breaks it down into a mixture of phenylacetic acid and phenylacetyl glutamine.

So Atengenal is just phenylacetyl glutamine and Astugenal is a mixture of phenylacetic acid and phenylacetyl glutamine. Why anyone would expect these normal metabolic waste products to be effective against cancer, or any other disease, beats me. If they are so good for us, and prevent or cure so many diseases, why do we excrete them in our urine? Since phenylacetate is a breakdown product of phenethylamine, which is found in chocolate, why isn’t chocolate a cure for cancer?

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_____flip
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Passing around the popcorn…
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December 20, 2012
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@Narad
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I regret to report that I actually still have a PCI dongle on the premises. It’s a long story.
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If I weren’t posting under a pseudonym, I would share some various exploits of a pixelated memory lane…
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_____ME: Thank Goodness! Next you might start posting about HTML!!
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@MarkL
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SEC filings as clinical evidence? hahahaha – sure, in the same way Crick, Wilkins and Watson won the Nobel prize after their 1953 tax returns proved the double helix theory.
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Ooh, that’s a good’un.
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_____ME: And if you actually knew how to read & comprehend what you read, you would NOT be posting your Garbage that I in any way indicated the SEC filing was “clinical evidence.” You are Full of (Wait for … shhh …) “IT.”
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He actually replied to the randomly generated buzz word salad as if it was meant to mean something.
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_____ME: To recognize your pathetic … Well, let me put it in words you might be able to understand, something like Orac would post: “Those 2 pos(t)ers that have their noses embedded so far up your rectum that you wouldn’t need a colonoscopy if they just strapped a light to Their faces.”
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Which is what I expected. I was particularly curious whether or not he could pass that comprehension test. Most people would be able to see through the junkyard of those sentences. Heck, I even mixed in a totally separate paragraph from a conspiracy generator just for fun.
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_____ME: Says the Village Idiots son.
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@Todd W
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I’m floored that you guys have the patience to wade through DJT’s walls o’ text.
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I’m just scanning for when he discusses me. Everything else I’m pretty much ignoring as I scroll past. I don’t have the time at the moment to do much more than that, nor the inclination.
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_____ME: Todd W should be floored that I have the patience to wade through your Wall of Noise.
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@Squidymus
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flip,
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“This should be interesting…”
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_____ME: If only it weren’t coming from a 15 year-old!
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Touché me old chum. That totally proves that Burzyinski isn’t lying!
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_____ME: But it totally proves that you are!
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This smells suspiciously like something a Tu-Quacking wanna-be Winner 15 year-old who wouldn’t know the 1st thing about Total Quality Management (TQM) would plagiarize in High School.
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Thundering son of a sea-gherkin, you are stupid. I even explained the whole thing above, if you’d bothered to follow the links. It’s a corporate-speak generator, you plug in the “name” of the company and it spits out paragraphs of meaningless word salad based on “corporate-speak”, aka made-up words or words used in order to create abstractness. It was a parody of what you’ve been doing. Here, I’ll post the link again:
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_____ME: No one wants to see your asinine re-hash of trash.

But hey, your following comments suggest you saw the info, but still didn’t understand what is was. Aw, so close to that gold star, and yet so far far far away…
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_____ME: And we all know whose nose your gold star is imbedded on, & how it made its way in your sphincter.
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Trust ME!! Nothing can help you … NOW!!
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_____ME: I think everyone knows what your boots are full of, & it’s NOT quake!
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Says flip’s Alcolyte.
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Wow, what a compliment. I’m pretty new here, but it’s nice to know I have “alcolytes”. Are they anything like flying monkeys, can I send them to do my evil bidding?
What do I do with them now I have them?
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_____ME: Why don’t you & your Alcolytes go to Kansas, what for that tornado, & when you get to Oz you can all drink your spiked Kool-Aide & go take a leap with the flying monkeys.
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… So after all that … it’s a “no” then for having access to peer-reviewed clinical results of Burzyinski’s trials?
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____ME: That’s the question you can’t seem to answer, but with your Alcolytes up your rectal cavity I can understand why you & they couldn’t dig through all the Asplundh.
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_____novalox
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Passing the popcorn around
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December 20, 2012
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@flip
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Is djt still making empty threats?
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And pass the popcorn around, djt is ending up to be quite an entertaining idiot to laugh at.
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_____ME: Why bother asking fliphincter? He’s got 2 people so far up in his colon that flip can’t flap his gums!
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_____herr doktor bimler
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December 20, 2012
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t’s nice to know I have “alcolytes”.
I think they are made by Anhauser-Busch (the word “brewed” isn’t really appropriate).
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_____ME: I think right now flippants is thinking of a word that rhymes with “brewed.”
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_____flip
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My popcorn is getting stale? Where’s DJT so I can fire up another batch?
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_____ME: How are you making out with that big COBOL of Cheese?
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December 20, 2012
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Is djt still making empty threats?
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_____ME: Don’t you feel those 2 threats in your lower GI tract yet, or are you so used to it by now that you just bend over on cue?
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And pass the popcorn around, djt is ending up to be quite an entertaining idiot to laugh at.
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_____ME: When you laugh do you even notice the brown liquid coming out anymore?
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I’m not sure empty threat is the right phrase. What do you call it when someone Gish gallops word salad in between ridiculously bad puns, link spam and acting like the high school attention-getter? (Bart Simpson on drugs perhaps?)
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_____ME: Says Bungholio, Lord of the Harvest!!
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Gray Falcon
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December 20, 2012
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DJT: You don’t even understand the mathematical concept of division. Why should we take anything you take seriously?
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____Gray Falcon, in what dark hole did you just sprout wings & fly out of?
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MarkL
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December 20, 2012
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Oh thats quite a strawman you are building there Diddums, but since you are aware that it is a strawman, we should really just call you a bare-faced liar and a fraud.
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_____ME: How are things in Oz, Scarcrow?
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Still unable to answer “Yes” or “No” as to whether you have or have not reviewed at least 1 of the 10 publications which has “Clinical Trial” “or “Trial” in it somewhere?
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And in answer to you, YES, I have looked at every one of the links I have seen with relevant titles, and not ONE of them are results of a phase II trial conducted by Burzynski.
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That is why I keep asking you for results, not abstracts, not poster presentations, not other peoples work, not advertorials or puff-pieces from woo friendly mags or vanity publishers, FULL, PUBLISHED, PEER REVIEWED RESULTS of a phase II trial that shows even a glimmer of hope for antineoplastons as a medical treatment for ANYTHING, from the last 30+ years of research and 60+ such trials that Burzynski claims to have run.
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You can’t do that can you? Because Burzynski has never published results of his studies, he just gives out mish-mashes of info gleaned from any number of sources to try and portray himself in the best possible light.
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_____ME: So by looking at “links” you were able to determine that the contents of a publication do NOT contain Clinical Trial data? Is that your FINAL answer?
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The only possible reason for him to continue in this manner after so long is that he is a FRAUD.
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_____ME: This, coming from you, doesn’t seem to be believable considering your past performance
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Thats why your gish gallops, your red herrings, strawmen, onus probandi, tu quoque, and probably a dozen other logical fallacies are so amusing to us. because we know the Burzynski story. We know he hasnt released results. So try as you like, you just come across as a laughable under-educated, aggressive, woo-crazy moron. We have tried to give you the chance to give in gracefully, but you just keep coming back and heaping more shame upon yourself.
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_____ME: Says the person who LIED so many times that I exposed you for what you really are on 12/3. Yet here you are, still living the LIE.
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Do not for a moment delude yourself that anyone takes your childish comments seriously, we are taking the p*ss out of you because you are every credulous NWO/Alt-med/Space abduction fantasist stereotype rolled into one steaming lump. You are HYSTERICALLY funny.
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_____ME: Coming from you I can’t tell everyone how much that hurts!
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Krebiozen
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December 20, 2012
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Squidymus,
Anyone who can read can see that you are a bluffing, blustering, lying buffoon. I don’t know why you bother trying to pretend otherwise.
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_____ME: Yet miraculously, you can’t seem to be able to offer an explanation as to how it is that SRB was authorized Phase II & III Clinical Trials without meeting YOUR requirements; as opposed to the FDA’s legal & regulatory requirements!
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How is it that with all the alleged Brain-Power people on this blog supposedly possess & want me to believe that they have, are not able to explain this “quandary” for y’all?
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Narad
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December 20, 2012
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It’s funny how the FDA is evilly trying to shut down and incarcerate Burzynski but they allowed him to create a Phase III — on paper only since all subjects were supposed to be accrued almost a year ago but none have been — so that proves the FDA believes his claims. According to the ever-courteous DJT.
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_____ME: And typically, you choose to selectively ignore posts already made on this subject matter & re-hash your same old tired responses.
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I see that you predictably fail to get this despite explanations on multiple fronts. Let us recall that you asserted that the FDA had no jurisdiction in the (SOVEREIGN STATE OF!!1!1!!) Texas. This is false, as the GMP part of the injunction demonstrates. The FDA does not appear to have attempted to assert jurisdiction over intrastate commerce. As previously stated, they wouldn’t have needed to in the first place, because the TMPA already explicitly incorporated federal restrictions, and the whole thing well predates the sort of administrative fiat attempts that one can see from recent years. In short, you’re an imbecile.
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_____ME: And you FAIL miserably in your above 2nd sentence, purposefully “Cherry Pinking” a part of a post instead of the full statement re Jurisdiction, & your reasoning just disintegrates downhill from there. Maybe you should check your mirror.
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Now, try to summarize your Ethan Allen–like legal assault on the tyrannical forces of “Gub’ment.” You can rest assured that nobody at all is interested in actually making your acquaintance.
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_____ME: Having to restate the obvious that has already been posted for you to read seems to be your modus operandi. As if you think I have nothing better to do then go back & copy/paste the same information for you again & again & again.
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Harvard:
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1. FACT: FDA was claiming SRB was shipping Antineoplastons across State lines & therefor engaged in Interstate Commerce, thus making it a Federal issue.
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_____1997 – The Dividing Line Between the Role of the FDA and the Practice of Medicine: A Historical Review and Current Analysis. (Citing Burzynski)
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_____The FDA finally ordered Burzynski to not distribute the drug in interstate commerce.
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2. 1997 – The Criminalization of Innovation: FDA Misdirection in the Najarian and Burzynski Cases.
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_____”The FDCA counts allege that Burzynski and his clinic introduced into interstate commerce…”

Narad
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December 20, 2012
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It’s funny how the FDA is evilly trying to shut down and incarcerate Burzynski but they allowed him to create a Phase III — on paper only since all subjects were supposed to be accrued almost a year ago but none have been — so that proves the FDA believes his claims. According to the ever-courteous DJT.

Wrong attribution, moron.

Now, try to summarize your Ethan Allen–like legal assault on the tyrannical forces of “Gub’ment.” You can rest assured that nobody at all is interested in actually making your acquaintance.
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_____ME: Having to restate the obvious that has already been posted for you to read seems to be your modus operandi. As if you think I have nothing better to do then go back & copy/paste the same information. for you again & again & again.

This is not responsive, Pretend Lawyer Type. By the way, is there some reason that you are now sticking periods between grafs?

@djt

Do try harder at your pathetic attempts at insult, your idiocy is quite amusing. I’ve had 6 year olds make better insults than you have tried to attempt.

Keep dancing for me, my little puppet, your utter failure at elementary school logic is entertaining. I’ve got another batch of popcorn ready to munch on while you try to entertain me.

@Squidymus

ugg
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http:// www. uggbootsvv. net/ December 19, 2012
Avoid waste your time on this website link, fully unrelated in order to conversation.
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_____ME: Don’t worry, I didn’t!

Proof that you fail at reading comprehension. For someone who is so familiar with fancy new fangled technology like IMDB, you certainly can’t tell the difference between a comment and spam.

If out of every group of 7 people, 2 died, that leaves more than 50% of the patients surviving, which would be more than the above 50% of 2,400 = 1,200.
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1,200 survivors out of 2,400 would NOT be 0.2%.
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It would be 50%.
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So it could then be theorized that there were MORE survivors than 1,200 (50%) & thus more survivors than 0,2%.
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That disproves your theory without even having to use any further mathematical manipulation of one’s gray matter.
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7 minus 5 does NOT = 0.2%.

Holy frick. Your math teacher at school needs to be fired. I seriously hope you don’t operate any machinery, build anything, or in general work in a manner that requires you to follow safety codes based on equations.

I guess the FDA must think they are safe & effective enough to proceed to Initiate Pivotal Phase III Trial.

And you do not understand the difference between submitting a trial for approval, and having completed said trial and publishing the results for all to see.

Why would I Google Poe when I don’t even Google myself?

What. The. F*ck.

Definitely, let’s go with you & your group of “Geniuses” instead of people like Dr. James Watson, discoverer of DNA & involved in the Human Genome Mapping Project.

You still haven’t worked out what the ‘strawman’ part was: here’s a clue. I never said my experience was better than anyone else’s. It doesn’t need to be: we really on evidence here, not experiences. Gibbering ghost, you’re thick.

Oh, so Dr James Watson has some peer-reviewed papers published showing the efficacy and safety of antineoplastons? If so, I’ll definitely look at the link for that. And if not, well, he’s pretty much irrelevant to the issue of Burzyinski and his trials, isn’t he?

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_____ME: He’s relevant even though you’re irreverent since it’s fair to say he’s more knowledgeable about the supposed “War on Cancer” than you.

So, that’s a ‘no’ then?

Try “Flippirrelevantidiomism!”

Very good sweetheart, now try and leave your own irrelevant comments somewhere else. Ooops – that would mean you’d be posting nothing but empties, wouldn’t it?

What you do in the bathroom is YOUR business, so I don’t want to hear about your “Netscaping!” And I DEFINITELY do not want anything to do with your “dongle!!”

I guess that proves my point. Either you really think that’s a double entendre, or you’re making really unoriginal jokes. Either way, you’ve shown yourself utterly incapable of talking like an adult.

… Does Squidymus think that simply posting the citations is enough? Maybe this little troll has only gotten far enough in their education to have recently been taught about bibliographies, and hasn’t worked out that you can’t just add citations at will – they have to actually back up your statements.

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_____ME: I am obviously doing much better at it than your “IT.”

Again, you prove my point for me.

There’s no evidence to suggest that antineoplastons have any significant activity against cancer … but they might have very minimal anticancer activity.

And there’s no way of knowing this until he publishes the results of his trials. Or someone does an independent trial. You seem to have missed the fact that most of us would agree with you: there may be potential. Where we disagree is the willingness to simply take Burzyinski’s word for it.

Thank Goodness! Next you might start posting about HTML!!

FSM forbid you learn something useful. Like how to make your comments legible.

Says the Village Idiots son.

Touche again me old ectoplasmic byproduct!

“This should be interesting…”
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_____ME: If only it weren’t coming from a 15 year-old!
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Touché me old chum. That totally proves that Burzyinski isn’t lying!
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_____ME: But it totally proves that you are!

Marg, is that you? Judith? Come out come out wherever you are! No, seriously, the “I know you are, but what am I?” tactic has been used by more sensible people than you and it *still* didn’t work. Why do you think this is an adequate debate tactic?

… So after all that … it’s a “no” then for having access to peer-reviewed clinical results of Burzyinski’s trials?
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____ME: That’s the question you can’t seem to answer, but with your Alcolytes up your rectal cavity I can understand why you & they couldn’t dig through all the Asplundh.

F* me you are stupid. We’re the ones *asking* for the peer-reviewed clinical results to be posted. Why the hell would we provide the answer for you…. oh right… because we’re dealing with a dunder-headed ethelred.

Says Bungholio, Lord of the Harvest!!

LOL! Ok, this one actually made me laugh…

And the sum of your comments can be given as this:

Random blather; no evidence for any assertion, particularly Burzyinski’s clinical trial results. Or, what Krebiozen said.

This is funnier than how Marg ended up going out. She looks so tame in comparison to this total ad hominem flame-out. Squidymus has been thoroughly and utterly been trounced. The evolution of Squidymus’ comments show a certain, ahem, unravelling.

@Novalox

Got another batch of popcorn ready, for the entertainment djt the fool provides.

Oh goody! Thanks for sharing 🙂

@LW

I can’t believe you had the patience to post that math-for-dummies thing. I struggle a lot with math, and even had to have instruction with figuring out percentages – but even I could work out what was wrong with his “math” without thinking about it. It’s just so self-evidently … facepalm.

Looking for Imbecils

“It is a mark of insincerity of purpose to spend one’s time in looking for the sacred Emperor in the low-class tea shops.”

@flip: “I can’t believe you had the patience to post that math-for-dummies thing.”

Well, I really do think that at some level the foul-mouthed brat really did want to know what was wrong with the computations, and it seemed cruel to keep mocking him (about that, anyway) without at least trying to explain. But I doubt the explanation will do any good, because I doubt he has any grasp at all of fractions. Look above where he argues that, if five out of every seven survive in a population of 2400, then more than 1200 survive because 1200 is half of 2400 and 5 is more than half of 7. *Sigh*. He has no idea how to get the correct number, and I’m not going to waste my time explaining it to a foul-mouthed, ungrateful troll.

LW,
If the 7 cases were a random sample of the population of 2,400 that last computation would make some sort of sense. But there weren’t, the 7 cases were Burzynski’s “best case scenario”, and so the computation makes no sense at all. It does seem more than a little unlikely that 1,700 brain cancer patients have been cured by Burzynski, which is what you would expect if what the Sepia Troll appears to be suggesting were true.

@Krebiozen: “If the 7 cases were a random sample of the population of 2,400 that last computation would make some sort of sense.”

Oh, absolutely. But my point is that he doesn’t even know how to compute the number to make that argument. The best he can do is feebly say that 5 is more than half of 7, so if 5 out of every 7 survive, more than half survive. This indicates total ignorance of fractions.

And if indeed 5 out of 7 of Burzynski’s patients survived, he’d be a hero and the tabloids, at least, would be knocking down his doors and we wouldn’t be having this conversation. The fact that only five survived out of his seven best cases which he personally chose out of 2400 is quite telling.

Just forget him. He is evidently innumerate, illiterate, illogical and intransigent. he doesn’t want to talk about Burzynski, he knows nothing about the subject.

He is just a troll looking to start a flame war.

_____Orac:
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“…I have to wonder whether Dr. Burzynski just hired Merola to make an infomercial”
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” Merola claims the movie was his idea, but I have a hard time believing it.”
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_____Orac, who attaches an article to his blog where Merola clearly states his motivation, and it WASN’T being hired by SRB!!

Diddums seems to be attempting the following sorites:
1) No one, even people taking dishonest actions, ever offers dishonest accounts of why they took those actions.
2) Merola claimed a totally aboveboard motivation for making his Burzynski infomercial.
3) Therefore Merola’s motivation for making his Burzynski infomercial was totally aboveboard.
4) Orac does not believe that Merola’s motivation for making his Burzynski infomercial was totally aboveboard.
5) Therefore, Orac is completely ignorant and all his testimony is impeached.
The problem is of course that premise 1 is bull-doots, and therefore there’s no logical force to any part of the argument.
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_____ME: Did you actually have a relevant point in there anywhere?

Yes, I did. And furthermore, I think every single person who isn’t you clearly understood that relevant point.

I’m so sure of that that I’m going to make that an open offer: anyone other than Diddums can speak up and say “I don’t understand what point you were getting at there” and I will answer (on that point or any other I’ve made in this thread, in fact.) If no one else feels the need for such an explanation, it pretty much means that the only person who thinks Diddums’ endless carping and harping has any weight, any value, any relevance to the conversation – is Diddums.

@Antaeus Feldspar

I think that everyone with a good understanding of rational thought and critical thinking skills can understand what you are saying.

Which means that djt surely is a prime example of Dunning-Kreuger in action.

But then again, if djt posts, we’ll get to see it even more, as proof that he knows not what he is talking about.

I’ve got another batch of popcorn ready, just in case djt decides to provide us with more proof that he is on the wrong side of the curve.

@LW

I don’t know – I think this is just your average internet troll looking for attention. I don’t think he’s here to learn, just to ‘rile’ people up. Hence my quite unusual tone and playfulness with him. If I thought he was here for a real conversation, I’d try a lot harder to be polite.

Still, it’s always worth explaining for the lurkers.

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December 20, 2012
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I guess Orac is otherwise occupied today, as my comment earlier comment is still languishing in moderation. I’m going to report without the guilty link.
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Squidymus,
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_____ME: You SERIOUSLY need to check your “New Math!”
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Are you really trying to argue that 5 expressed as a percentage of 2,400 is something other than 0.2%? The 7 patients Burzynski presented were clearly the “best case scenario” out of the 2,400 patients he had treated at that time, and 2 of them died, so it does seem appropriate to calculate the percentages this way.
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_____ME: YES! Because you “New Math” is based on a False Presumption based on Unfounded Unsupported Unsustainable data!!
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1. Your “New Math” completely ignores the 2 Harvard reports I’ve posted about previously:
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1.a. 1997 – “The Dividing Line Between the Role of the FDA and the Practice of Medicine: A Historical Review and Current Analysis”
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1.b. 1997 – “The Criminalization of Innovation: FDA Misdirection in the Najarian and Burzynski Cases”
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2. a. Treating … “thousands of patients since the opening of his Texas clinic in 1977.”
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2.b. “The Burzynski clinic treated thousands of patients with antineoplastons from 1977 to the present…”
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2.c. “Over a 2 decade span, the doctor treated over 3,000 patients…”
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3. Only approximately 300 of what were formerly thousands of patients are allowed to be treated currently under very close FDA scrutiny.
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4. A group of 100 patients & their families gathered outside the federal courthouse in support of Burzynski on the 1st day of his criminal trial.
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5. The issue essentially boils down to a safety verses efficacy issue. At present, the FDA appears satisfied that a drug, once approved for some use is relatively safe, even if used for an unapproved use. It seems to follow that if an unapproved medical treatment is not harmful, the FDA should allow its use until efficacy is proven or disproven. Under either scenario, the FDA retains the power to prohibit the use of use of a drug or device, whether approved or unapproved, when incidents of unreasonable harm are shown.
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_____ME: So based upon your “Theory:”

1. Over 3,000 patients were treated,
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2. But of those over 3,000, only 5 survived,
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3. There were 300 patients still being treated,

4. 100 patients & their families gathered outside the federal courthouse,
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5. The FDA didn’t stop him though according to you at least 2,995 patients out of over 3,000, died,
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6. There must not have been enough anti-SRB individuals representing the over 2,995 dead patients to show up at the federal courthouse & make the News,
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7. The State of Texas didn’t stop him though according to you at least 2,995 patients out of over 3,000, died.
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My testimony and whatever that Exhibit says is irrelevant. What is relevant are the facts:
1. Late response to radiochemotherapy in pediatric glioblastoma, Burzynski’s speciality, has been reported in the literature.
2. All the cases looked at by Dr. Patronas and his team had had previous treatment.
3. It is possible that these cases were also examples of late response to earlier treatment.
4. Therefore they are not good evidence for the efficacy of Burzynski’s treatment.
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_____ME: And you obviously chose to ignore the above “FACTS.”

I wasn’t going to bother with Squidymus but in passing I note of his latest “FACTS” that the two “Harvard reports” he refers to are nothing of the sort, they are both essays written by law students. Even if their information did happen to be correct, why he thinks that claiming that Burzynski treated more than 2,400 patients is helpful to his claim I don’t know (5 is an even lower percentage of 3,000 than it is of 2,400 after all). Neither do I understand why he thinks that dead patients would be able to demonstrate outside a courtroom, or why the fact that Burzynski has supporters demonstrates that many of his patients survive, especially since we know that relatives of his dead patients are, for some reason, among his most ardent supporters, Eric Merola for example.

Be that as it may, I was interested in the testimony that Dr. Patronas gave, and was able to find a source for the original document (PDF), again at the inadvertantly helpful Burzynski the Movie website. I hadn’t seen the cross examination of Dr. Patronas before, since Squidymus omitted it, for some reason (I doubt it was for brevity). In it we find out that Dr. Patronas and his team did not get to actually look at the patients’ medical records, these were held onto by Dr. Burzynski who only gave them whatever information he decided was relevant. We also find out that some of these patients were being treated with steroids which we know can temporarily shrink tumors, as well as Methotrexate and Vincristine, which are conventional chemotherapy drugs while they were being treated with antineoplastons. How can anyone conclude that the responses of these patients had anything at all to do with the antineoplastons?

I also managed to find the NCI report on the patients that Dr. Patronas and his team looked at, if anyone’s interested. You can find it by Googling “647904-correspondence-buryznski-stanislaw-1.pdf” and then use the Quick View option – it’s in the Willliam Clinton library and the direct link doesn’t seem to work. The report is in the middle of a lot of other documents.

The first interesting things I note is this:

On October 4, 1991, CTEP staff (Dr. Michael Hawkins, Dr. Michael Hamilton, Dr. Dorothy Macfarlane) and invited consultants (Dr. Nicholas Patronas, neuroradiologist, NIH Clinical Center, and Dr. James Nelson, neuropathologist, AFIF) visited the offices of Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski in Houston, Texas to review seven selected brain tumor cases which Dr. Burzynski felt represented the best responses achieved with Antineoplastons A-10 and AS2-1 treatment.

This confirms that these cases were indeed Burzynski’s selected best cases. I am currently amusing myself by examining these cases in detail.

Humph. Sorry about that. Looks like I just identified a bug in my preview program, in which my comment displayed perfectly. The link works anyway, please just ignore the fact the rest of the text is underlined.

I’m glad to not be wasting time on Diddums anymore. If he can’t even figure out “how do you format comments so that people can tell what you’re quoting and what’s your own words?” why would anyone think he’s sorted out the truth of Burzynski?

@Squidymus

1. Your “New Math” completely ignores the 2 Harvard reports I’ve posted about previously:

AHAHAHAHAHAH! Oh, I’m so glad I wasn’t drinking or eating when I read that. Seriously Squidymus, you are priceless!

The iDJiT’s two fifteen-year-old Harvard law student essays have not, of course, been ignored. Here is my comment on “The Dividing Line Between the Role of the FDA and the Practice of Medicine: A Historical Review and Current Analysis”, from which we learned that Burzynski ignored the FDA for twenty years (1977-1997) during which he treated approximately 3,000 patients.

And here is my comment on “The Criminalization of Innovation: FDA Misdirection in the Najarian and Burzynski Cases”, from which we learned that “Burzynski openly defied both the FDA’s regulations and a federal court order specifically directed at him for fourteen years before the FDA finally brought charges against him. Moreover, he “treated” patients for AIDS and Parkinson’s with his antineoplastons.”

@Krebiozen: ” (5 is an even lower percentage of 3,000 than it is of 2,400 after all)”. And you think he knows that?

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December 20, 2012
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The iDJiT: “If Orac wants to be believable then he needs to be less vitrolic & more factual.”
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Total lack of self-awareness. Sad, really.
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_____ME: You must mistake me for a “New Ager!”
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_____Sad, really? Really?? REALLY???
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_____I’m not running a “Science Blog” using phrases such as:
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_____”Dr. Whitaker has his nose embedded so far up Dr. Burzynski’s rectum that Dr. Burzynski wouldn’t need a colonoscopy if Merola just strapped a light to Dr. Whitaker’s face,”
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_____to “BUTTress” my scientific theories.
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____I am not here to be “Touchy Feelly” like AgaTamponShem.
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_____When dealing with muckrakers, sometimes you have to get your fingers dirty whilst using Respectful Insolence.
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____Agashem
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December 20, 2012
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OMFG! If DJT is a dude, then we really need to think twice about the stereotype of women talking so much more than men. At least talking about Tampons is EVER so much more interesting than trying to figure out what the hell this idjit is talking about.
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_____ME: Please cite the post & date where I supposedly indicated your toxic shock statement.
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_____And while you’re at it, please incorporate Tampons into the cancer discussion, possibly to plug up flippoo’s expectorate.
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_____MI Dawn
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December 20, 2012
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Does anyone know of a killfile that works in Firefox (Mac version) on Sciblogs? Greasemonkey isn’t doing it, and I’d really like to killfile DJT, he’s boring to read and it takes too long to scroll through his word salads.
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_____ME: Did MI Dawn post anything related to science, or just the usual GIGO?
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_____herr doktor bimler

December 20, 2012
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(Portions BOLDED for KreBLOGizBLIND.)
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Apparently bold-face and CAPITALS are now synonymous. Please, continue.
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_____ME: Ohhh, don’t worry! I will as long as the Tu-Quackers continue to post GIGO!!
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_____novalox
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December 20, 2012
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Keep posting djt, your never-ending stupidity is so entertaining. Your pathetic attempts at insult and ad hominem are so cute.

And besides., the more you post here, the less time you have of trying to attract innocent marks towards burzynski.
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_____ME: Ahhh, novocain. And your comments help deaden the pain of your not-so witty repartee!
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_____MarkL
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December 20, 2012
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I wouldn’t worry MI Dawn,
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I have a feeling Orac will be wielding the banhammer very soon, as Diddums has departed entirely from the subject at hand and is just looking to cause trouble.
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_____ME: Sez the anointed one who hasn’t met a non-fact based post he didn’t like.
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_____Maybe because I can actually cite Primary & Secondary sources unlike you; except in the rarest of occasions, Orac will keep me around to try & balance out your biased viewpoint.
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_____Krebiozen

December 20, 2012
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It seems Squidymus has degenerated into denying he wrote things we can all see he did write, or that they didn’t mean what he clearly meant them to mean, and has emitted more great clouds of content-free blather. Unless he comes up with something substantial that can be refuted I’m done with him.
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_____ME: Says the chosen one who can’t cite the post & date to back up the KreBLOGerskite.
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_____Narad
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December 20, 2012
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So when I re-post the relevant posts so you won’t have to scroll up to my previous posts, you reinforce my belief that you’ll WHINE no matter what.
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More comprehension fail, jambrains. Failure to reenact your own self-soiling wasn’t the issue. And why are you now rooting around in old comments like a blowfly for something stupid to say, anyway? It’s not as though you really need anything to hinge this special talent on.
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_____ME: Maybe you should go back to posting stuff like:
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_____Narad
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December 14, 2012
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Hey, StinkPress took the bottom of the sword.
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_____ME: If you can’t draw the correlation between successful Japanese Clinical Trials & Orac’s blogging:
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_____”Whenever Burzynski does a trial, the results come out as promising, with minimal or mild toxicity. When other researchers do a trial with his neoplastons, the results aren’t nearly as promising; in fact, the results are pretty much always negative, and significant adverse reactions are observed…”
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_____I’m not surprised since you can’t answer:
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_____”Narad, good question. Who are you?”
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_____flip
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Corning the pop…
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December 20, 2012
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What is more interesting to me than Squidymus’ spammy posts is his evolution over time of different formatting. And the evolution of picking up words and phrases we use – whether it’s tu quoque or references to alcohol.
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I wonder what that’s all about? It’s like it’s trying to show that it knows what we’re talking about, but in trying too hard misses the mark entirely and only presents that it knows very little indeed.
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_____ME: Wondering how flipalcolyte is doing with the Kool-Aide & big COBOL of Cheese…
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@MarkL
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Do not for a moment delude yourself that anyone takes your childish comments seriously, we are taking the p*ss out of you because you are every credulous NWO/Alt-med/Space abduction fantasist stereotype rolled into one steaming lump. You are HYSTERICALLY funny.
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Repeated because I agree. Hysterical and funny and hysterically funny.
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_____ME: Doesn’t surprise me that you love a predominantly non-fact citing Tu-Quacker’s post, considering how you consider SPAM generators as relevant!
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@Krebiozen

So you agree that we don’t know whether Burzynski’s treatment works. That’s progress I suppose. As several people have pointed out, either it does work, in which case Burzynski has kept a life-saving treatment from thousands of patients for decades, or it doesn’t work in which case he has been charging vulnerable cancer patients hundeds of thousands of dollars for false hope. Which do you think is the case?

One can assume that since we don’t know whether it works or not, Squidymus thinks we should stop criticising Burzyinski. Because, you know, the guy could be right… But then one would also have to ignore copious amounts of evidence that Burzyinski doesn’t seem to care about proving the treatment works, so much as enjoying the wealth of providing an unproven cure.
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_____ME: Says the Surfer Dude who has possibly swallowed too much urine-based seawater.
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@Squidymus, you moth-eaten marmot

____ME: flipMothra you non- fact citing SPAM generator!

“Presumably since we’re providing the criticism, Squidymus is providing the “other side” (re: his “defence of truth” comment). Or something…”
Says another Tu-Quacker who needs to pull their head out.

If you would be a little less obtuse and a little more succinct/explicit, we wouldn’t have to play guessing games as to what your motives are. I won’t apologise for speculating, particularly as when “disagreeing” with that speculation – see your comment quote above – you do nothing to point it in a more correct direction.
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_____ME: Says the grasshopper who can’t see the forest for the trees.
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_____novalox
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December 20, 2012
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@djt
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Still no actual facts, just more insults and ad hoiminems
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_____ME: novocain, how many ad homonyms do you eat a day?

Please, keep posting your stupidity for the world to see, it does give me a good laugh at how idiotic you have been. It also limits the damage you can do by attracting innocent marks, little buddy.
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_____ME: How’s your “little buddy” Gilligan?
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_____Considering how much of y’all’s non-fact based GIGO I have to shovel…
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_____AdamG
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December 20, 2012
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So Didy, do you agree with everything Watson says because he’s a Nobel Laureate?
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_____ME: Thank you for paying attention to my comments re the George Bushes & Wikipedia.
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Any opinions on this one?

[I am] inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa [because] all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours, whereas all the testing says not really.
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_____ME: And in your “FACT” based research, I take it you conveniently forgot:
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_____”In 2007, he apologized publicly after an interview in which he speculated that Africa’s progress might be hindered by genetic inheritance. He retracted the statement and regretted any offense caused by his remarks.”
http:// www. achievement. org/autodoc/page/wat0bio-1
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I had the ‘privilege’ of seeing him lecture at my institution last year, and it’s quite clear he’s gone off the deep end. He called individuals with intellectual disabilities “genetic losers” who should be “purged from the population.”
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_____So …, you’re mad he mentioned you by name?
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_____LW
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December 20, 2012
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When I was a child, I once heard my mother say of another woman, who had an urge to dominate every conversation, that she was “talking to hear her head rattle”. The woman was far more intelligent, vastly better informed, and enormously more polite than Didymus Judas Thomas, who does not appear very bright and is certainly both ill-read and ill-bred, but I think the term can be properly brought to date: Didymus Judas Thomas is typing to hear his keyboard rattle.
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_____ME: What was that? I was too busy shoveling through all the (Wait for it … shhh …) “IT” the Tu-Quackers post here!

_____ME: If you can’t draw the correlation between successful Japanese Clinical Trials & Orac’s blogging:
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_____”Whenever Burzynski does a trial, the results come out as promising, with minimal or mild toxicity. When other researchers do a trial with his neoplastons, the results aren’t nearly as promising; in fact, the results are pretty much always negative, and significant adverse reactions are observed…”
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_____I’m not surprised since you can’t answer:
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_____”Narad, good question. Who are you?”

“Last Christmas somebody gave me a whole Jimson weed—the root must have weighed two pounds; enough for a year—but I ate the whole goddamn thing in about twenty minutes…. they said I was trying to talk, but I sounded like a raccoon.”

You’re Hunter S. Thompson?!!!

That passage is actually Acosta speaking. The entire adrenochrome chapter is absurd, but it was the first thing that occurred to me upon Squiddle’s latest descent into incoherence.

I don’t know why you guys even bother with him anymore. I gave up weeks ago, once I realized what we were dealing with.

@MSII – I gave up trying to even comprehend what he was trying to say – not even sure what’s he’s responding to….

Wow, that last comment Squidymus has shown he’s well and truly lost the plot. I mean, more than usual.

I wonder if he even realizes that every time he emits another “Says the one who [improbable urological practice]!!” it pretty much reads as a concession?

If he could find an error in our facts, he’d point it out.

If he could find an error in our logic, he’d point it out.

The logical conclusion is that every time he quotes someone just to reply “Says the __________ who ________!” he’s admitting in front of everyone reading that he cannot find any flaws in the facts or the logic of those he’s replying to.

Boy if we were keeping score, djt would be batting 0.000, way below the Mendoza line, with multiple errors to boot.

Heck, he probably would be batting in the negative numbers if it were allowed

But his continued inability to answer the simplest questions, along with his utter infantile insults, shows off his continued admission that his position is untenable.

The only thing left is to treat him as out personal punching bag and laughingstock, which he has supplied perfectly, with his continued idiocy and juvenile insults.

So, keep posting djt, we need laughs at your expense. Realize that you are now just here for our entertainment, nothing more. I’ve got some more popcorn to laugh at your continued idiocy and support of a quack and fraud.

I just found a new website by chance and wanted to pass it along. It’s extremely depressing reading during this holiday season but there’s really nothing new that most of us haven’t already read here or elsewhere.

It’s called “The OTHER Burzynski Patient Group” (subtitled “35 Years Is Long Enough”) and is a collection of several of the horror stories of Burzynski patients and their families. The analysis of each case history is very detailed and thorough, and it seems Burzynski tells every one of his patients that getting sicker is a good sign as it indicates the tumour is shrinking. A few cases contain the same “cyst” story Orac debunked here.

Here is a paragraph from the “About” page:

Of the thousands of patients who have gone to him and emptied their bank accounts at his feet, a very, very few have survived. This does not mean that he has cured them; in fact, when you look at the cases closely, you find reasons to doubt that he has cured anyone at all. Of course, the few patients who have survived this shonky treatment have become full-time advocates of Burzynski, and he has acquired something of a cult-leader status.

From the position of an informed patient advocate, everything about the Burzynski Clinic reeks of medical charlatanry. He is not a trained oncologist, but he is treating cancer. He posits a novel mechanism for cancer (a patient’s lack of antineoplastons) that is unrecognized in the medical literature as a cause. His ANP is marketed as an alternative to chemotherapy, but he gives patients chemo cocktails mixed with “terrifying” doses of sodium phenylbutyrate, mixtures that have not been adequately tested for safety and which causes hypernatremia in his patients. He has sold ANP not only as a cancer treatment, but also as an HIV treatment, an unjustified action for which he was severely disciplined by the Texas Medical Board. Checks for donations that are meant to go “toward the continuation of the Clinical Trials and Research” are to be made out directly to “S.R. Burzynski, M.D., Ph.D.” He has initiated over 60 phase II studies over the decades and seems to have completed exactly zero of them. Three independent investigations, published together in The Cancer Letter, concluded that his studies were “uninterpretable,” and that Burzynski defined successful treatment as “stable disease,” a lowered standard that no other oncologist or researcher accepts.

There is something distinctly aberrant about Burzynksi’s supporter base, and a cult of personality surrounds the man unlike anything that I have seen in other medical schemes. At the root of cults is a psychological dependence on the leader, and Burzynski’s cult nurtures his patients’ dependence on him by making them fear and distrust modern medicine, stripping away desperately ill patients’ hope in legitimate, tested therapies and substituting them with his “treatment”. Abominable.

Instead of evidence garnered from clinical trials published in peer-reviewed journals, Burzynski relies heavily on patient testimonies to peddle his wares. Testimonials are no substitute for controlled clinical trials. No matter how many testimonials Burzynski and his patients put forward, no matter how passionate and moving those stories are, no matter how grateful and indebted his patients feel toward him, the fact remains that no amount of bad evidence is equal to a single piece of good evidence. He has had over 35 years to produce that single piece of good evidence and has utterly failed to do so. This, however, has not stopped him from charging $30,000 for an initial visit to his clinic and $7,000 per month for treatment thereafter.

I wanted to see an unbiased sample of Burzynski’s patients. When you select your sample group by outcome, you are going to produce a very skewed view of the treatment. (This is the Texas sharpshooter fallacy, essentially drawing a bullseye around a bullet hole.) I went back into my university’s databases to see if I could the patients who appeared in the press begging for money to see Burzynski. When I did, I found that with a single exception, every damned patient I could find in the LexisNexis Academic database who had appeared in the press begging for money to see Burzynski and whose outcome I could find had died. When his supporters don’t select the cases you get to see, a very, very disturbing picture of his practice emerges.

Kudos to whomever put this website together. I suspect it’s someone who is a regular reader here.

http://theotherburzynskipatientgroup.wordpress.com/about/

12/20 Comments:
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_____Narad
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December 20, 2012
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Squiddles, your faulty yet prompt phraseological appropriations are duly noted. Do you understand what this means?
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_____ME: Nara-d-Clue, your correctly incorrect misappropriated paraphrasing is notedly dull. Verstehen Sie?
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_____Gray Falcon
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December 20, 2012
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@DJT- How did you manage to survive to adulthood? I would think someone like you would have a hard time remembering whether you could eat rusty nails and broken glass or not.
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_____ME: What was that? It’s hard to understand you with whatever that is in your mouth. Munchin’ Marbles Maybe?
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12/21 Comments:
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_____novalox

December 21, 2012
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@djt
Yawn, try again, little troll.
Your illogic is quite amusing, however, for a few good laughs at your complete imbecility.
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_____ME: Almost up to par with your imbeincivility, ain’t it?
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_____AdamG
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December 21, 2012
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5. “…but the end product of his work is so one-sided that it’s a joke, and a bad one at that.”
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FAIL – Cherry Picking.
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What is this even supposed to mean?
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Didy Didy Didy, can’t you see
Sometimes your posts just mystify me.
And I just loathe your rambling ways
Guess that’s how they roll in high school these days.
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_____ME: AdamGee, oh say can’t you see?
_____Orac already knew from Merola’s interview what the outcome would be,
_____So blogging that when he knew it’d be that way,
_____Is Cherry Picking I think it’s safe to say.
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_____herr doktor bimler
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December 21, 2012
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How did you manage to survive to adulthood?
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Unwarranted assumption, Grey Falcon.
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_____ME: Like herr doktor bimler,
_____I just hide underneath my desk,
_____Waiting to see where the next Unwarranted ASSumption will come from,
_____North, South, East, or West.
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_____al kimeea
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December 21, 2012
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“How’s the flavored Kool-Aide?” – Bo Squiddly
We can’t tell, ’cause you won’t share it.
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_____ME: Mine is Deeeeliscious!
_____I’m happy to say,
_____Because it’s not the Jim Jones flavor,
_____Or that Peeliscious flavor I’ve heard you have ’round your way.

@ Marc: I’ve bookmarked that link and double kudos to that blogger.

What’s with “diddums”?

@djt

Yawn, more pathetic attempts at insults. But it is so funny to see an idiot like you try to attempt it.

Isn’t it past your bedtime, little one?

12/21 Comments:
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_____Krebiozen
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December 21, 2012
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Squidymus,
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KrapzBLOGas, did you have a point?
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Yes, essentially you are full of cr@p. You are too gutless to clearly state your position and support it with evidence, lack the maturity to take responsibility when you get something wrong, and appear to be incapable of having a rational adult discussion.
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_____ME: So … I’m catching up to you?
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You were wrong about the math. You were wrong about Galileo. You were wrong about Watson. You were wrong about late responders. You were wrong about spontaneous remission. You were wrong about the FDA approving a Phase 3 study. You were wrong about the Phase 3 study protocol demanding that the subjects have had radiotherapy. You were wrong about the results of Phase 2 studies being published. You were wrong about the Japanese research. You were wrong about Jodi Fenton’s miraculously disappearing tumor. You don’t understand what “cherry picking” means. You can’t even tell a reliable source from a YouTube video or a piece of advertising fluff from a movie-making publicist.
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_____ME: I’m not wrong about the math, ’cause I can throw Cr&p #s out there just like the rest,
_____I’m not wrong about Galileo, I quoted straight from Wikipedia & we know they’re unbiased & correct,
_____I wasn’t wrong about Dr. Watson, it’s on the Berkeley Understanding Evolution web-site & various articles which must be true!
http:// evolution. berkeley. edu/evolibrary/article/history_22
_____And if Berekely is wrong about Evolution, that just really wouldn’t do!
_____I wasn’t wrong about late responders, I was just quoting Dr. P,
_____And he works for the Gub-ment, & they’re NEVER wrong even when it’s a Conspiracy!
_____I weren’t wrong ’bout dat dere spontaneous remission, that was Patronas, is he a Quack?
_____Is he listed on Quackwatch along with those other “Hacks?”
_____I was right about that Phase III, you can read about it here,
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:F_Gxcq54sOgJ:184.173.15.174/~burzynsk/images/stories/Understanding/EmailFromFDA_Phase3_ANP.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiP-_eN6QHj9eW4Ajdsn_yN-9yDdHz2r-pzbS8oAbRmng4_8K4WQXGuzGSsM92e8GQB_4-1Qic47NgV5ID32diF4GEcyFQSGon9nLT4aJ3rzvQ9ovGOa0wKCym5Q5svrrEWc6Jf&sig=AHIEtbQdfEVup3KXcDqEyAK0Anqha0WUtA&overridemobile=true&chrome=true#
_____And there’s a different one here, for you I fear!
http://clinicaltrials.gov/show/NCT01260103
_____I never posted that they HAD to have HAD radiation, I indicated they would have to HAVE radiation,
_____So you admit the Phase II didn’t need to be published since the FDA approved Phase III?
_____Or are you going to change your story again with no citations to support your “Theory?”
_____Prove I was wrong about the research from Japan, or are you unable to do that without sprouting a new hand?
_____Have you really, Really, REALLY contacted Jodi?
_____Or are you just full of Schlitz Malt Liquor Bull?
_____Have you ever seen a Cherry Pickin’ Tree, or do I need to send you back to School?
_____You can’t even tell a twitter from a birdies little tweet,
_____If you had to find a “FACT,” you’d be lookin’ for at least a week!
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There’s much, much more evidence that you are an ignorant poltroon, but I’m not wasting any more of my time on you.
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_____That’s cuz you couldn’t find any evidence if it hit you upside the head,
_____My suggestion is for you to stay at home & don’t get out of Bed!!!

Lilady and flip,

Make sure you read Adam’s story for some insight into the high-pressure tactics Burzynski’s clinic uses to extract money, or as the blogger calls it, “perform a wallet biopsy.”

Everytime it looked like Adam was about to walk away from Burzynski and deprive Stan of money, the clinic changed the story to get him and his money back. Like a desperate, slimy used car salesman who chases after a client offering to throw in free rustproofing or an extended warranty to make the sale.

And the blogger raises some very valid points about how involved Stan is with each client and how the TMB blew it in their decision.

The mountain has labored and brought forth a mouse.

DJT scoured the Web for proof of Burzynski’s Phase III trials, and here’s what he found.

On January 6, 2009 (that would be almost four years ago, DJT), someone from the FDA emailed that the protocol was approved for the trial of antineoplastons+radiation vs. radiation.

And what happened next? Was the trial itself (not the protocol) ever approved? Was it ever started?

No.

*Yawn*. So much for that “evidence” of the effectiveness of Burzynski’s “treatments”.

And then DJT refers us to this Phase III trial. Ah, yes, I remember it fondly. It seems like only a year ago we were talking about that trial … oh, wait, it was a year ago. I had fun posting progress reports on time remaining to enroll participants. And we find, a year later:

Estimated Enrollment: 70

Study Start Date: December 2011

Estimated Study Completion Date: December 2015

Estimated Primary Completion Date: December 2013 (Final data collection date for primary outcome measure)

And he still hasn’t enrolled seventy participants and started his study: “This study is not yet open for participant recruitment.”

*Yawn*. So much for that “evidence” of the effectiveness of Burzynski’s “treatments”.

Finally, DJT asks,

So you admit the Phase II didn’t need to be published since the FDA approved Phase III?

First, there isn’t one Phase II trial, there are dozens. Second, trials tend to study the response of one disease to one protocol (remembering that “cancer” is not a single disease). Look at the title of the (one and only) Phase III trial: “A Randomized Study of Antineoplaston Therapy vs. Temozolomide in Subjects With Recurrent and / or Progressive Optic Pathway Glioma”.

Assuming this trial were ever started and assuming it were ever published, that would only tell us how antineoplastons work — or don’t — in that specific disease. But there are many other kinds of brain cancer that Burzynski purports to treat in his dozens of Phase II trials — how do antineoplastons work in those kinds of cancer? The results of all of those trials need to be published even if they were unsuccessful.

It is just possible that antineoplastons are effective when given in just the right dosages, in combination with just the right other treatment, to just the right kind of cancer. It is just possible that there is a clue in the unsuccessful trials (I assume they are uniformly unsuccessful or they would have been published) which Burzynski hasn’t identified but someone else could … if he would just publish the results of the trials. Since he didn’t pay for the trials himself — the patients did — their destitute families deserve to have those results published. They should see something come from their loved ones’ suffering.

Squidymus seems to be becoming even more deranged. What is the point of all these obvious lies? Is this some sort of clumsy imitation of humor? It’s strange and a bit sad.

And here I was thinking “Well, DJT is racing fast towards rare depths of obstinate idiocy BUT at least he hasn’t devolved into free-form poetry like D-chniak…”

@Squidymus

I never posted that they HAD to have HAD radiation, I indicated they would have to HAVE radiation

Your fumblings with English aside, none of your deranged droppings prove that Burzyinski has done much of anything except steal people’s money.

@MSII

Thanks, I have bookmarked the site already and will be coming back to read it when I have more time.

_____Narad
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December 20, 2012
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Squiddles, your faulty yet prompt phraseological appropriations are duly noted. Do you understand what this means?
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_____ME: Nara-d-Clue, your correctly incorrect misappropriated paraphrasing is notedly dull. Verstehen Sie?

You lose, jizzmop.

12/21 Comments:
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_____Mephistopheles O’Brien
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December 21, 2012
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@Didymus Judas Thomas – There is a significant difference between being the discoverer of DNA and the discoverer of the structure of DNA. Based on the article you referenced, which of those is Watson?
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_____ME: Pleases let the University of Berkeley know so their Evolutionists will know, the next time they pull off a Double Helix during one of their REvolutionary shows:
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/history_22
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_____Mephistopheles O’Brien
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December 21, 2012
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And just how many people have enrolled in that phase III trial?
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_____ME: Probably the same amount as actually read my previous post, instead of burying their heads in the dirt during a Charle Darwin REvolutionary show:
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_____LW,
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December 18, 2012
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“@Narad: “They really don’t, to the extent that one is talking about FDCA § 301.”
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Okay, they had no jurisdiction in this case.
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It’s funny how the FDA is evilly trying to shut down and incarcerate Burzynski but they allowed him to create a Phase III — on paper only since all subjects were supposed to be accrued almost a year ago but none have been — so that proves the FDA believes his claims. According to the ever-courteous DJT.”
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_____ME: And if you were actually paying attention to what’s going on you would understand that:
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1. There are costs associated with a Phase III Clinical Trail, and therefor funds have to obtained,
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2. Patients of a sufficient number need to be obtained who specifically fit the “Children with Newly-Diagnosed Diffuse Intrinsic Brainstem Glioma” category,
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3. Parents need to be convinced to allow their Children to have their Brains be exposed to Radiation,
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4. And there may be other factors as well.
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_____MarkL
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Why so evasive DJT?
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_____ME: Why so evasive MarkL?
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December 21, 2012
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@Diddums
Who is “they?” Cancer . gov?
http:// www. cancer. gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/antineoplastons/healthprofessional/page6
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Nice try, but no phase II clinical results there.
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_____ME: Marky MarkL, really? Really?? REALLY???
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_____Did you make a conscious decision to ignore:
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_____”Published clinical trial results are available…”
http:// www. cancer. org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/complementaryandalternativemedicine/pharmacologicalandbiologicaltreatment/antineoplaston-therapy
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_____And on the “Human/Clinical Studies” page (Which would be Phase II Clinical Trials) did you consciously ignore under “Current Clinical Trials:”
http:// www. cancer. gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/antineoplastons/healthprofessional/page5
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_____”Publications have taken the form of case reports, phase I clinical trials, toxicity studies, and phase II clinical trials.”
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AND:
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_____”Table 2 summarizes the following clinical trials and appears at the end of this section.”
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_____And did you consciously ignore the “Table 2” mentioned above & NOT look “at the end of this section” as suggested by the above, & notice:

References

6. Burzynski SR, Kubove E: Initial clinical study with antineoplaston A2 injections in cancer patients with five years’ follow-up. Drugs Exp Clin Res 13 (Suppl 1): 1-11, 1987. [PUBMED Abstract]

8. Burzynski SR, Kubove E, Burzynski B: Phase I clinical studies of antineoplaston A5 injections. Drugs Exp Clin Res 13 (Suppl 1): 37-43, 1987. [PUBMED Abstract]

12. Burzynski SR, Lewy RI, Weaver RA, et al.: Phase II study of antineoplaston A10 and AS2-1 in patients with recurrent diffuse intrinsic brain stem glioma: a preliminary report. Drugs R D 4 (2): 91-101, 2003. [PUBMED Abstract]

13. Burzynski SR, Weaver RA, Lewy RI, et al.: Phase II study of antineoplaston A10 and AS2-1 in children with recurrent and progressive multicentric glioma : a preliminary report. Drugs R D 5 (6): 315-26, 2004. [PUBMED Abstract]

14. Burzynski SR, Weaver RA, Janicki T, et al.: Long-term survival of high-risk pediatric patients with primitive neuroectodermal tumors treated with antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1. Integr Cancer Ther 4 (2): 168-77, 2005. [PUBMED Abstract]

16. Burzynski SR, Janicki TJ, Weaver RA, et al.: Targeted therapy with antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 of high-grade, recurrent, and progressive brainstem glioma. Integr Cancer Ther 5 (1): 40-7, 2006. [PUBMED Abstract]

17. Burzynski SR, Kubove E, Burzynski B: Treatment of hormonally refractory cancer of the prostate with antineoplaston AS2-1. Drugs Exp Clin Res 16 (7): 361-9, 1990. [PUBMED Abstract]
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_____And did you consciously ignore how those above References match up with the Clinical Studies I posted previously, & how:
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above 6 = 10 below
above 8 = 8 below
above 12 = 6 below
above 13 = 5 below
above 14 = 3 below
above 16 = 1 below
above 17 = 7 below

“You want answers part 1 doesn’t offer references to published Phase I or Phase II clinical trial results: instead the citations are to review articles, abstracts from poster sessions, etc.”
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_____ME: So are you indicating that you have reviewed 1 or more of these 10 publications & none contain Clinical Trial data?
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And if that is what you are claiming, can you explain how it is that the FDA approved Phase II & III Clinical Trials without the data they required?
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1. 2006 – Targeted therapy with antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 of high-grade, recurrent, & progressive brainstem glioma.
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in 4 PHASE 2 trials
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/16484713/Targeted_therapy_with_antineoplastons_A10_and_AS2_1_of_high_grade__recurrent__and_progressive_brainstem_glioma
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3. 2005 – Long-term survival of high-risk pediatric patients with primitive neuroectodermal tumors treated with antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1.
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…were treated in PHASE II studies…
http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/15911929/Long_term_survival_of_high_risk_pediatric_patients_with_primitive_neuroectodermal_tumors_treated_with_antineoplastons_A10_and_AS2_1
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5. 2004 – PHASE II study…
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/15563234/Phase_II_study_of_antineoplaston_A10_and_AS2_1_in_children_with_recurrent_and_progressive_multicentric_glioma___a_preliminary_report
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6. 2003 – PHASE II study…
A PHASE II study…
http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/12718563/Phase_II_study_of_antineoplaston_A10_and_AS2_1_in_patients_with_recurrent_diffuse_intrinsic_brain_stem_glioma__a_preliminary_report
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7. 1990 – Treatment of hormonally refractory cancer of the prostate with antineoplaston AS2-1.
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The present study describes the results of treatment… in PHASE II CLINICAL TRIALS…
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/2152694/Treatment_of_hormonally_refractory_cancer_of_the_prostate_with_antineoplaston_AS2_1
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8. 1987 – PHASE I CLINICAL STUDIES…
CLINICAL TRIALS described in this paper…
http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/3569014/Phase_I_clinical_studies_of_antineoplaston_A5_injections
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9. 1987 – PHASE I CLINICAL STUDIES…
…was submitted for PHASE II CLINICAL STUDIES…
http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/3569012/Phase_I_clinical_studies_of_antineoplaston_A3_injections
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10. 1987 – Initial CLINICAL STUDY…with 5 years’ follow-up.
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This paper describes PHASE I CLINICAL STUDIES…
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http:// assets0. pubget. com/paper/3569010/Initial_clinical_study_with_antineoplaston_A2_injections_in_cancer_patients_with_five_years__follow_up
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_____So, if you disagree with the Gub-ment, I can’t help you, but it looks like I’m right & you’re wrong.
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Have you looked on ClinicalTrialsFeeds . org?:
http:// clinicaltrialsfeeds. org/clinical-trials/results/spons=%22Burzynski+Research+Institute%22
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No, no clinical results there either (surprise, surprise).
In fact that site neatly highlights that Burzynski hasn’t updated many of his trials for nearly 5 years. I guess the patients are either dead, broke or both so who cares eh diddums?
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_____ME: I guess you should, Marky MarkL!
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I guess the FDA must think they are safe & effective enough to proceed to Initiate Pivotal Phase III Trial.
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As has been pointed out before, the phase III trial protocol was approved under SPA by the FDA some time back, but Burzynski will still need to provide efficacy evidence before being granted an IND and being allowed to proceed. Is that why the phase III never really started?
Anyhow, you lie when you say the FDA must have received evidence of efficacy because they approved a phase III trial. They haven’t, they merely approved the putative trial protocol.
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_____ME: See my post right before this one re At the Tu-Quacker Center Movie Theater watching KreBLOGzine, The Movie.
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_____Enjoy the Holiday CROW, or feel free to substitute TURKEY!!

Still no Phase II trial results. Someone needs to learn that repeating the same misinformation over and over doesn’t make it true.

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December 21, 2012
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@djt
Keep posting, little fool. I am certainly enjoying how often you make a fool of yourself.
And yawn, why should I bother with your empty threats. I bet you couldn’t hurt a fly, your threats are so blase.
@flip
Got another batch of popcorn ready, for the entertainment djt the fool provides.
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_____ME: novoMalox, well, I just proved another Tu-Quacker wrong.
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_____MarkL
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December 21, 2012
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@Diddums
If we ASSUME your 2,400 & you pick 7 out of that group, & 2 die, then you have 5 survivors.
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Breaking it down into “Math for Dummies” for your benefit:
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100% of 2 ,400 = 2,400
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_50% of 2,400 = 1,200
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If out of every group of 7 people, 2 died, that leaves more than 50% of the patients surviving, which would be more than the above 50% of 2,400 = 1,200.
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1,200 survivors out of 2,400 would NOT be 0.2%.
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It would be 50%.
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So it could then be theorized that there were MORE survivors than 1,200 (50%) & thus more survivors than 0,2%.
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That disproves your theory without even having to use any further mathematical manipulation of one’s gray matter.
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7 minus 5 does NOT = 0.2%
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You are a moron. Burzynski did not pick out 7 patients and the have 2 die. He was asked to put forward his 7 bestcase scenarios out of the 2400 he had treated to that date.
His OWN choice of bestcase scenarios was 5 survivors and 2 who had died died.
So it IS 5 survivors out of 2400, or roughly 0.2% at the time of that review.
This is abysmal even by your low, low standards. It could not even be described as sophistry because sophistry demands plausibility.
Do you honestly believe that your Math (or your logic) is correct?
*facepalm*
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_____ME: MarkLost, I just destroyed 1 of your arguments, so I have no problem doing it again!
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_____You remind me of Rick Moranis, because I did not post that:
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“Burzynski did not pick out 7 patients and the (sic) have 2 die.”
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_____I posted:
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_____”If out of every group of 7 people, 2 died…”
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“His OWN choice of bestcase scenarios was 5 survivors and 2 who had died died.”
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_____Is “died died” worse than just “dead?”
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_____I showed how ridiculous your proposition is in a previous post.
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_____”1997 The Dividing Line Between the Role of the FDA and the Practice of Medicine: A Historical Review and Current Analysis.” (Citing Burzynski)
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_____”1997 – The Criminalization of Innovation: FDA Misdirection in the Najarian and Burzynski Cases”
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_____”In fact, many of Burzynski’s patients swear
that his treatment has saved their lives when practitioners who provided more conventional treatment told them to prepare for death.”
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_____”The Oversight & Investigations Subcommittee of the Commerce Committee heard testimony from Burzynski patients who testified that his treatment cured them or helped them. Government Press Releases, Background on Access to Medical Treatment Hearing, (2/22/1996).”
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_______”The prosecution called as witnesses 19 relatives of Burzynski patients who have died, but none of them had anything bad to say about him. Instead, they insisted that the defendant had given them complete and honest information, and that he operates a high-quality, health care facility.
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag97/june-report97.html
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_____Would you care to try again?

@DJT – I see a lot of “hearsay” that patients were “saved” by Dr. B – but I don’t see any evidence, especially not of published results of all of those Phase II trials you are so happily trotting out as evidence….saying a trial was conducted is a heck of a lot different than publishing the final results – of which, Dr. B has not.

_______”The prosecution called as witnesses 19 relatives of Burzynski patients who have died, but none of them had anything bad to say about him. Instead, they insisted that the defendant had given them complete and honest information, and that he operates a high-quality, health care facility.

Of course they do, they don’t want to picture themselves as being the victim of a fraud. I think this is called “cognitive dissonance”.

_____”If out of every group of 7 people, 2 died…”

I just cannot get over how utterly backwards this is. How can someone actually think this is a logical way to approach calculating a rate?

If the overall survival rate was in fact 5/7, why would a group of his 7 best cases include 2 people that died?

Didy just doesn’t understand the difference between random and nonrandom sampling. It’s both amusing and sad.

Pleases let the University of Berkeley know so their Evolutionists will know, the next time they pull off a Double Helix during one of their REvolutionary shows: […] Probably the same amount as actually read my previous post, instead of burying their heads in the dirt during a Charle Darwin REvolutionary show:

Finally, Squidymus’ true colours are revealed. Welcome to creationism land, where evidence doesn’t matter.

What a nincompoop! “On the side of truth” my shiny metal ass.

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December 21, 2012
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oooops – the following lines from above should NOT be part of the blockquote;
You are a moron. Burzynski did not pick out 7 patients and the have 2 die. He was asked to put forward his 7 bestcase scenarios out of the 2400 he had treated to that date.
His OWN choice of bestcase scenarios was 5 survivors and 2 who had died died.
So it IS 5 survivors out of 2400, or roughly 0.2% at the time of that review.
This is abysmal even by your low, low standards. It could not even be described as sophistry because sophistry demands plausibility.
Do you honestly believe that your Math (or your logic) is correct?
*facepalm*
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_____ME: And yet again you ignore my previous posts:
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_____Didymus Judas Thomas
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The Realm of where I question your MOTIVATION & GOOD FAITH
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December 17, 2012
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LW,
I really enjoy your “New Math for Dummies!!”
Please cite your credentials so I may compare them to:
Dr. Nicholas J. Patronas,
http://www.cc.nih.gov/drd/staff/nicholas_patronas.html
Senior Clinician, Chief. Section of Neuroradiology,, Radiology and Imaging Sciences, National Institutes of Health, NIH Clinical Center.
Academic Degrees
MD, Salonica University, Greece
Residency, University of Illinois
Fellowship, Northwestern University
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Well, after the medical school we have a year internship, four years residency in radiology, and in addition I had an entire year of training in neuroradiology. So my subspecialty is neuroradiology. It is the evaluation of the regions of the central nervous system.
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When I finished my training I was at the University of Chicago for seven years as a staff radiologist at the University Hospital. And then I moved to the National Institutes of Health where I worked from ’81 to ’85 as a staff radiologist at the clinical center, which is the hospital of the National Institutes of Health. Then I moved to Georgetown University where I became full professor of radiology. And the National Institutes of Health contracted Georgetown radiological services, and I was sent from Georgetown back to NIH to cover the section.of Neuroradiology.
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I delight in your “Cherry Picking.”
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_____”And one died and another did not respond.”
The basic conclusion was that in five of the patients with BRAIN TUMORS THAT WERE FAIRLY LARGE, THE TUMOR RESOLVED, DISAPPEARED.
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Q: Was that just happenstance? I mean, was that just by some miracle of–
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A: Well, since the treatment given was started after the previous conventional treatments which had FAILED previously, we took the position that this probably represents the result of this new treatment. And so there was only minimal residual tissue at the tumor bed, which looked like a sca, and had no fissures to support that there was a tumor in the majority of the cases. Two of seven patients did not do very well. One of them deceased. THE TUMOR DISSOLVED at least microscopically; we could see it with the naked eye, but it recurred later, a year later. And the other, there was very, very minimal decrease in the size of the tumor. But THE TUMOR WAS VERY BIG, the last one, the seventh, last two cases did not survive, although THERE WAS DEFINITE IMPROVEMENT in one of the two last cases.
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Q: Doctor, based on what you have testified to before about your background and credentials, it’s fair to say, isn’t it, that you have seen a lot of brain cancer patients?
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A: YES, IN FACT, WE SEE ALOT OF THESE CASES.
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Q: And that’s part of what you do at the hospital, is to evaluate treatments on brain cancer patients?
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A: Well, different cancers, but since I am the neuroradiologist I see all brain rumors. AND I SEE A LARGE VOLUME OF THEM.
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Q: Now, with regard to at least the five patients, I think
you testified that five of the patients had their TUMORS RESOLVED, they all–
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A: DISAPPEARED.
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Q: –DISAPPEARED. Can you give us some kind of context of that? How often does that happen with any– with no treatment, just by spontaneous remission, or by whatever it is that you–
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A: I’m not aware that spontaneous remission occurs; I don’t think it does. And the available treatment only rarely produce results like that. The only medication– the only treatment, which I think is the last resort, is radiation therapy. Chemotherapy has very little to offer unless there is an experimental protocol somewhere. However, conventional chemotherapy is– provides very little, nothing, basically. Radiation, there are some reports indicating that radiation treatment in children particularly could lead to resolution of the rumors, although I don’t know whether it is a permanent one or temporary. So when this happens it is very rare. And I have seen only isolated here and there where that has happened with radiation .
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A: Yeah. Well, radiation should give these results, if it works at all, the first two months after completion of the treatment. In these cases, all the patients had already FAILED radiation because they were treated months, several months after radiation was
given and had FAILED.
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Q: What happens with these patients? Lets say they FAILED radiation; what happens then to the patient with brain cancer?
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A: Well, it depends on the grade of the tumor. If the tumor is low grade, astrocytoma, and we are talking about primary gliomas, if it is low grade, survival for years is possible. If it is an intermediate grade, the anaplastic, the mean survival is two years, and if it is the high grade glioma the mean survival is about 12 months. That’s it; THEY DIE in 12 months, they disappear.
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Q: Now– So are you saying basically for someone that’s FAILED radiation– It sounds like you are saying that if someone has already FAILED radiation, at least, that there’s not too much else–
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A: NOTHING TO OFFER. EXACTLY.
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Q: –and that these people are going to eventually DIE of their disease, barring any unforeseen event or cure?
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A: EXACTLY.
We have done– we have an experimental protocol at the NIH where we inject a chemotherapeutic agent through the carotid artery, the artery that goes to the brain, and we have three survivals with this technique, by providing massive amounts of chemotherapeutic drugs to the brain that harbors the tumor. And we destroy the tumor, but we destroy a large part of the brain as well, and the patients became severely handicapped , and a life that’s not worth living.
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_____”1977 and 1993, he “treated” 2,400 patients. Out of those 2,400, those described are presumably his seven best cases. And one died and another did not respond. So the results Burzynski presented appear to indicate that five out of 2,400 — a little over 0.2% — went into remission. That’s ever so impressive”
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What a disingenuous statement.
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You have no idea what the resolution of the “2,400″ was.
5 out of 7 were AMAZING and IMPRESSIVE and then you try with your “New Math” to imply that this means that because 2 did not survive after radiation FAILED and the prognosis was that they would have DIED anyway, you want us to believe your false numbers.
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If you had 7 patients you could call that: 70%.
5 successful patients would then be: 50%
Change 70% to: 100% (by adding 30%)
Change 50% to: 80% (by adding 30%)
80% minus 100% = 20%
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So 20 deaths out of 100 = 80% survival rate.
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That would be a base-line calculation.
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If you factor in that the survival rate may NOT have been as high as 80% because these were his Best Case Scenarios, we still come nowhere near your 0.2%.
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_____Didymus Judas Thomas
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Looking to see if LW has any COBOLS
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December 17, 2012
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LW,
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Let’s say I have a “Cherry Picked” question, and I know who would most likely know the answer, but I don’t have the COBOLS to contact them directly & ask. I’d rather blatherskite on a blog & throw out hypothesis and “guesses” instead. What should I do? Grow a Pair or continue on in the same vein?
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We can play “Guessing” Games all day long, but “Guessing” Games are nothing but Speculation and Assumptions.
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I could ASSUME that Patient X was going to DIE anyway because their Cancer had progressed to that stage & radiation had FAILED, but still show investigators that the Cancer was being reduced before they DIED.
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Please cite where SRB says he can cure ALL forms of Cancer.

Krebiozen:

Squidymus seems to be becoming even more deranged. What is the point of all these obvious lies? Is this some sort of clumsy imitation of humor? It’s strange and a bit sad.

Yeah, I feel bad mocking him, but it’s hard not to when he is so thoroughly unpleasant.

DJT — Still no published clinical results (self-aggrandizing interviews are not proof). And your math (don’t blame it on Dr Patronas) still sucks rocks.

As i have said previously,

This guy is innumerate, illiterate, illogical and intransigent. He knows nothing about Burzynski, nothing about cancer and obviously nothing beyond 2nd grade math.

He is simply a troll. Nothing more, nothing less. He will take a contrary point of view from anyone else here, that appears to be his raison d’etre. Time we ignored him, and let him disappear.

Feeding trolls is a bad habit.

DJT is an evolution denier? Now it all makes sense. That kind of arrogant ignorance of basic math is a hallmark of the creationist mind.

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_____LW
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December 21, 2012
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This is truly silly. Today the iDJiT says to me,
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_____Please cite the post & date where I allegedly denied:
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_____“…claiming that Galileo was persecuted for claiming the Earth is round.”
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Uh, okay, cool. Have it your way. You didn’t deny claiming that Galileo was persecuted for claiming the Earth is round. And we all laughed at you for claiming that Galileo was persecuted for claiming the Earth is round.
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_____ME: And this was because people didn’t read what I posted, & re-post it:
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_____ME: Didymus Judas Thomas
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You can’t teach I crystal skull anything
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December 15, 2012
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12/11 Comments
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Mephistopheles O’Brien, the other day I went back in a Time Machine & MET A GUY WHO SAID HIS NAME WAS GALILEO & HE SAID THE EARTH WAS ROUND.
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It looked flat to me. There was water around, Galileo said I could sail around the World for $150,000. I asked if his ship was safe; he said it was. I asked to see his test protocols and results to see if it was more likely I’d arrive safely, die on impact, or be flung into the abyss; he said it was effective but would not produce the data I looked for.
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Should I, or should I not, tell others that there’s no proof that this man’s protocol is safe and effective?
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LW
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December 15, 2012
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@Didymus Judas Thomas
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_____“Galileo said I could sail around the World for $150,000. I asked if his ship was safe; he said it was.”
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The fact that the world is not flat was determined long before Galileo, and not because you can sail around it.
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Several pieces of evidence, observed by ancient Greeks: ships sailing away disappear from the hull first, as if going over a hill; the edge of the shadow of the Earth on the Moon during a lunar eclipse is always the edge of a circle; the paths of stars and the Sun are observed at different heights as you move north or south.
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Eratosthenes used the fact that the Sun is observed at different heights depending on your latitude to get quite a good estimate of the diameter of the Earth. Educated people like Galileo knew this. The question facing Columbus was not whether the Earth was flat; everybody involved in financing his expedition knew it was not. Columbus believed it was much smaller than it really is and that educated people (correctly) expected that it was, and therefore that ships of the time could make it all the way to India, which they could not.
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_____Didymus Judas Thomas
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I Know Jack, and You’re No Jack (Though You Might be a Cross between a Donkey & Mare.)
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December 16, 2012
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12/15 Comments:
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LW,
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_____Great. But who was persecuted for it more than Galileo?
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herr doktor bimler (Interjected himself into the dialogue.)
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December 16, 2012
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LW,
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_____Great. But who was persecuted for it more than Galileo?
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Face it, LW, no matter how many times you explain to Didymo that Galileo did not announce the roundness of the world (because this had been the accepted truth for a millennium before his time), Didymo will still come back with the claim that Galileo was persecuted for saying that the world was round.
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LW
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December 16, 2012
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_____“Great. But who was persecuted for it more than Galileo?”
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If we were talking about what Galileo *actually* said and not what DJT fantasizes, one answer would be Giordano Bruno.
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_____Didymus Judas Thomas
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Amazed that some people can & can’t add after reading my last post & act clueless
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December 17, 2012
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12/16 Comments:
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herr doktor bimler
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_____”PLEASE GO ON Wikipedia & LET THEM KNOW.”
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_____”THEY OBVIOUSLY DIDN’T GET YOUR MEMO RE GALILEO.”
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LW,
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_____”LOOKS LIKE YOU NEED TO HELP herr doktor bimler CORRECT Wikipedia re GALILEO.”
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_____JGC
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Let’s not lose focus
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December 21, 2012
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We’re still waiting to be pointed to a single published clinical report, from a completed Phase II trial conducted by Burzynski, which supports the claim antineoplastons safely and effectively treat advanced cancers.
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_____ME: See my previous post.
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_____Didymus Judas Thomas
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_____”In the Tu-Quack Kitchen Preparing Crow for the Holiday Tu-Quackers.”
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_____December 24, 2012
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_____12/21 Comments:
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_____Also, feel free to ignore:
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9/6.- 9/2012
S. Patil⇓,S. Burzynski, E.Mrowczynski & K. Grela, Burzynski Research Institute, Houston, TX, US
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Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of the Society for Neuro-Oncology 2012
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Neuro Oncol (2012) 14 (suppl 3): iii1-iii94. doi: 10.1093/neuonc/nos183
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This article appears in: Abstracts from the 10th Congress of European Association Of NeuroOncology, Marseille, France 9/6-9/2012
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Abstracts
P.003 PHENYLACETYLGLUTAMINATE IN COMBINATION WITH PHENYLBUTYRATE EFFECTIVELY INHIBITS GROWTH OF BRAIN TUMOR CELLS IN VITRO
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Abstract
In this study we have investigated the effectiveness of the combination of … (PG), … with phenylbutyrate (PB).
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PG is used in the formulation of antineoplaston AS2-1 …

The FDA granted Orphan Drug designation for Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 for the treatment of gliomas, in 2009.
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12 FDA supervised Phase II clinical trials have confirmed anti-tumor efficacy in several types of brain tumor.
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PB is indicated for the treatment of glioma & acute promyelocytic leukemia.
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Previous studies in our laboratory have shown that the combination of PG & PN acts synergistically to inhibit growth of … glioblastoma cells.
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Another published report has shown that PB induces apoptosis in prostate cancer cells & is more potent than PN.
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We describe the novel combination of phenylacetylglutaminate & phenylbutyrate as effective anti-proliferative agents in glioblastoma & medulloblastoma cells.
http://m.neuro-oncology.oxfordjournals.org/content/14/suppl_3/iii1.abstract?sid=95079a14-178f-4a13-b6dc-3fab4e9485da
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http://m.neuro-oncology.oxfordjournals.org/content/14/suppl_3/iii1.abstract?sid=e29ac3b0-44dc-4450-bad2-2ec944af1d24
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11/18.- 21/2010
Stanislaw R. Burzynski, Robert A. Weaver, Tomasz J. Janicki, Gregory S. Burzynski, Barbara Szymkowski & Sheryll S. Acelary, Burzynski Clinic
& Sheryll S. Acelar
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Neuro Oncol (2010) 12 (suppl 4): iv7-iv25. doi: 10.1093/neuonc/noq116.s2
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This article appears in: Abstracts from the 15th Annual Meeting of the Society for Neuro-Oncology (SNO), .11/18–21/2010, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Neuro Oncol (2010) 12 (suppl 4): iv69-iv78. doi: 10.1093/neuonc/noq116.s9
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Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of the Society for Neuro-Oncology 2010
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Ongoing Clinical Trials
OT-15. PRELIMINARY RESULTS OF A PHASE II STUDY OF ANTINEOPLASTONS A10 & AS2-1 (ANP) IN ADULT PATIENTS WITH RECURRENT MIXED GLIOMAS
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Abstract
The purpose of this study was to evaluate the efficacy & toxicity of antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 (ANP) in adult patients with recurrent mixed gliomas.
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13 of 20 patients enrolled were evaluable;
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7 patients could not be evaluated due to an inadequate duration of treatment & lack of follow-up … (MRI) scans.
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There were 4 women & 9 men.
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The median age was 38 (range, 29–54)…
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1 patient had low-grade &
12 patients had high-grade mixed gliomas.
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All patients received chemotherapy, radiation therapy, & surgery prior to ANP, with the exception of 1 patient who received no chemotherapy or radiation therapy postsurgery.
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The median duration of treatment was 4.4 months;
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ANP was well tolerated, with the most common side effects being urinary frequency, hypernatremia, dysgeusia, myalgias, nausea, & hypersensitivity.
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Serious (grade 3) toxicity (urinary frequency) was observed in only 1 patient & there were no grade 4 toxicities.
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Response to ANP was monitored by MRIs of the brain.
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The responses were as follows:
23%; complete response,
8%; partial response,
23%; stable disease, &
46%. progressive disease,
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Progression-free survivals (PFS) at 1, 2, & 5 years were
31%, 23%, & 8%, respectively.
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Overall survivals (OS) from diagnosis & from start of treatment at 1, 2, & 5 years were
92% & 54%, 85% & 23%, & 46% & 8%, respectively.
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The preliminary results of our small study of adults with recurrent mixed gliomas revealed ANP to be very effective in resolving or stabilizing disease in more than 50% of treated patients … with minimal toxicity.
http://m.neuro-oncology.oxfordjournals.org/content/12/suppl_4/iv69.abstract?sid=49e4f4d6-eaba-4841-9e7c-c156ddc51a80
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9/18.- 21/2010
Cell Biology and Signaling
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Sonali Patil, Stanislaw R. Burzynski, Emilia Mrowczynski & Krzysztof Grela, Burzynski Research Institute
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Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of the Society for Neuro-Oncology 2010
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CB-15. TARGETING MICRORNAS IN GLIOMA CELLS WITH ANTINEOPLASTONS
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Abstract
In this study, we report the changes in expression of several … glioblastoma cells in response to exposure to antineoplaston AS2-1.
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Using … (Affymetrix) we have noted the reduced expression of … & the enhanced expression of genes involved in apoptosis … cells exposed to antineoplaston AS2-1.
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Antineoplastons will be used in phase III U.S. Food & Drug Administration-regulated clinical trials this year.
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Once approved, these amino acid derivatives may offer promising treatment in many types of brain tumors.
http://m.neuro-oncology.oxfordjournals.org/content/12/suppl_4/iv7.abstract?sid=95079a14-178f-4a13-b6dc-3fab4e9485da
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http://m.neuro-oncology.oxfordjournals.org/content/12/suppl_4/iv7.abstract?sid=95079a14-178f-4a13-b6dc-3fa
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_____And NO, I don’t need anyone to insert foot in mouth like Marky MarkL, about these NOT being Clinical Trial data.
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_____MarkL
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December 21, 2012
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So the upshot of all DJT’s blathering is that he doesn’t like anyone else here.
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Oh………… and that he STILL has NO evidence of efficacy to show us.
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_____ME: You’ve already got Foot in Mouth Disease from being wrong…
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_____LW
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December 21, 2012
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Okay, I’m going to answer this because I believe that some small rational piece of Didymus Judas Thomas’ mind, suppressed and all but smothered, truly wants to know what’s wrong with this calculation. Here is how to compute the survival rate if five survive out of seven, the Didymus Judas Thomas way:
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If you had 7 patients you could call that: 70%.
5 successful patients would then be: 50%
Change 70% to: 100% (by adding 30%)
Change 50% to: 80% (by adding 30%)
80% minus 100% = 20%
So 20 deaths out of 100 = 80% survival rate.
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Didymus Judas Thomas asks courteously, “do you have a point?”
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Yes, I do have a point. It is that Didymus Judas Thomas is profoundly ignorant of basic arithmetic, besides being ignorant of the history of science, barely literate, and not housebroken. Anyone who responds to him should probably know what we are dealing with.
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Alain, not surprisingly bewildered by this “computation”, says,
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@ LW,
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Something doesn’t compute with your rendition of DidySquat math (and he’s far from computing itself) but perhaps I can blame that on my flu (which I’m treating with gin, honey and lemon juice) but….you jump from percentages to absolute numbers and even the percentages look iffy; how did you come up with these numbers from DidySquat’s posts?
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Here is the point at which I think that tiny rational piece of Didymus Judas Thomas’s mind got control of its fingers briefly and typed,
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And yet The Lord of The Woo doesn’t answer the question:
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“… but….you jump from percentages to absolute numbers and even the percentages look iffy;…”
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Actually I did answer the question, what was “how did you come up with these numbers from DidySquat’s posts?”;
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the answer was, “I copied it from one of the iDJiT’s droppings over on the “Stanislaw Burzynski:
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‘Personalized gene-targeted cancer therapy’ for dummies” post.”
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Just go to that post and search for “If you had 7 patients”, without the quotes of course.
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But I think that tiny rational piece of Didymus Judas Thomas’ mind wants to know what is wrong with the “computation”.
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Everyone else already knows, of course, but for the benefit of that small suppressed rational piece, I will answer.
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This requires reading Didymus Judas Thomas’ mind, and I generally confine my mind-reading to friends at close range, but I’ll do my best.
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I think that Didymus Judas Thomas dimly recalls from last semester’s math class that somehow you turn 7 into 100, and if you do exactly the same thing to 5 as you do to 7, you get the percentage. This is actually right, if you know how to correctly turn 7 into 100. The trouble is that, having no idea how to proceed, Didymus Judas Thomas begins by adding a zero to the end of each number. This is equivalent to multiplying each by 10, which isn’t wrong but isn’t especially helpful. Being now totally at loss as to what to do next, he adds 30 to both numbers, still faithfully doing the same thing to each, and that gives him 100 and 80, which seems to him to imply that 5 is 80% of 7.
The error is that in computing a percentage you can safely multiply both sides by the same number, because a percentage is another way of writing a ratio, but you cannot safely add the same number to both sides. I suggest to Didymus Judas Thomas that he notice that 70-50 = 100-80. Adding the same number to both sides does not change the difference.
What you need to do is change 7 into 100 solely by multiplication. So we need a number to multiply 7 by to give us 100. That number is represented as 100/7, and you can get it by typing 100 into your calculator, hitting the divide key, typing 7, and then hitting the equals key. That number is 14.28571428571429. Now, just hit the multiply key and type 5, then hit the equals key. That gives you 71.42857142857143. We can round that to 71.4 and say that 5 is 71.4% of 7. We write the computation as 5*100/7. This is usually written as 100*5/7, which means the same thing.
Knowing how to compute this, you can now move on to something harder, like, what is 5 as a percentage of 2400? We do this exactly the same way: type 100 into the calculator, hit the divide key, type 2400, and hit equals. That gives you 0.0416666666666667. Now hit the multiply key, type 5, and hit the equals key, and you get 0.2083333333333333, which we can round to 0.2, so we can say that 5 is about 0.2% of 2400. We would write this as 5*100/2400 or 100*5/2400. Notice there is a pattern here.
I hope that helps.
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_____ME: And you did all the above for naught!!!
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@ LW,
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Yep, it does help greatly. your number look right.
Alain (cepacol and orange juice today).
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_____ME: Except LW & others couldn’t bother referencing the source material for this:
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“7) Therefore no more than five patients out of approximately 2400 actually survived.”

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December 21, 2012
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This is funny: I’m watching Law & Order reruns on TNT. Burzynski is on it! The Taxman Cometh, original airdate May 10, 2010.
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_____ME: Well, don’t leave us in suspense! What happened!!
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December 21, 2012
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@Diddums
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What exactly are you trying to point out here diddums?
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_____ME: Most of y’all don’t know what you’re posting about.
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You seem very keen on insulting everyone, but very vague when it comes to what you are trying to prove.
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_____ME: Most of y’all don’t know what you’re posting about.
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What is your point?
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_____ME: Most of y’all don’t know what you’re posting about.
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Can you express it succinctly?
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_____ME: Most of y’all don’t know what you’re posting about.
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Because all your yards of spiel say absolutely nothing, you do not answer any questions except with totally irrelevant drivel, you just point at people and scream “dumbass”. You are not even prepared to learn, so why come here?
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_____ME: Most of y’all don’t know what you’re posting about.
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You have provided no support for Burzynski, all you have done is convince supporters of SBM that all Burzynski fans are unhinged!
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_____ME: YOU don’t know what you’re posting about.
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So go on – give it a go – try explaining (preferably in just a few short sentences) what your point is.
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_____ME: Most of y’all don’t know what you’re posting about.

@ DidySquat, isn’t it time for you to get drunk and enjoy your family instead of squatting here telling us we don’t know what we’re talking about….

Alain

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With regard to Burzynski’s much anticipated Phase 3 clinical trial. Its title is not “Phase III Trial of Combination Antineoplaston Therapy and Radiation Therapy, Study to Evaluate Children with Newly-Diagnosed Diffuse Intrinsic Brainstem Glioma” as the Sepia Troll claims. According to the the Clinical Trials website the study’s official title is. “A Randomized Phase 3 Study of Combination Antineoplaston Therapy [Antineoplastons A10 (Atengenal) and AS2-1 (Astugenal)] vs. Temozolomide in Subjects With Recurrent and / or Progressive Optic Pathway Glioma After Carboplatin or Cisplatin Therapy”. There is no mention of concurrent radiotherapy, and the word “combination” in the title refers to, “Combination antineoplaston therapy: [Antineoplaston A10 (Atengenal) and Antineoplaston AS2-1 (Astugenal)] given six times daily (open label) by subclavian vein infusion”.
There are no trials of a combination of antineoplastons and radiotherapy registered on the Clinical Trials website.
The only place I can find a reference to “Phase III Trial of Combination Antineoplaston Therapy and Radiation Therapy, Study to Evaluate Children with Newly-Diagnosed Diffuse Intrinsic Brainstem Glioma” is in a press release from the Burzynski Clinic in 2009. The FDA appear to have cleared the protocol for this study, but it was never registered with the Clinical Trials website and appears to have been abandoned.
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_____ME: And if you would actually research the subject before just indiscriminately posting GIGO, you would know that the goal was to do multiple Phase III Clinical Trials.
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_____There’s something called “FACT CHECKING,” as I’ve repeatedly posted:
http://www.twst.com/interview/26532

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@ DidySquat, isn’t it time for you to get drunk and enjoy your family instead of squatting here telling us we don’t know what we’re talking about….
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_____THAT would certainly explain most of the posts on here … Alcohol. Which is why I prefer to not kill my Brain cells!!! 🙂

Which is why I prefer to not kill my Brain cells!!!

Yeah, you’ve given them a good beating already.

Alain

Which is why I prefer to not kill my Brain cells!!!

This is what is properly known as begging the question.

@djt

Ironic, since all your so-called answers are so brain dead.

But try again, false apostle. I do like seeing you continually make an utter fool of yourself, and the stupidity of your fawning of burzynski is bound to turn off a few of your marks.

And do try harder and your so-called insults; I’ve heard better from per-schoolers.

DJT quotes my lengthy explanation of the proper method of computing percentages and then gloats, “_____ME: And you did all the above for naught!!!”

Well, yes, I rather feared it would be for naught, but there was that tiny chance that some part of DJT’s mind was reachable. But no, DJT is proudly and defiantly ineducable. He must be a joy to have as a student.

Most of y’all don’t know what you’re posting about.

Well played me old megacycle!

And if you would actually research the subject before just indiscriminately posting GIGO, you would know that the goal was to do multiple Phase III Clinical Trials.

Oy. You need help. Please ask your school teacher for some assistance in reading comprehension.

In the meantime, feel free to explain why “evolutionist” is a valid term….

I have been scrutinizing those 7 cases presented to the NCI by Burzynski. I’m not a histopathologist, so I would welcome any comments from someone with more specialized knowledge of this area. I don’t think these cases are as remarkable as Patronas and his team seemed to think, mainly because we know more about brain tumors and their response to treatment than we did in 1991.

I think it may be significant that the team didn’t get to actually examine the patients’ records. They had to rely on Burzynski to answer any questions they had about the treatment the patients had, and we only have Burzynski’s word for the accuracy of that information.

It is also of note that some patients were given steroids, methotrexate and/or vincristine as well as antineoplastons.

This small study from 2004 found that:

In 9 out of 32 patients, the first post-radiotherapy MRI showed progressive enhancement. In 3 of these 9 the MRI improved or stabilized for 6 months without additional treatment. The authors conclude that patients with progressive lesions within 3 months after radiotherapy should not be eligible for phase II trials on recurrent glioma.

This review from 2012 concluded:

MRI should be interpreted with caution the first 6 months after standard treatment of high-grade glioma.

Bearing in mind pseudoprogression and late response to RT and chemotherapy, which the NCI team would not have known about, the seven cases look much less impressive:

Patient 1. RT dates not specified but between 11/87 and 3/88. Tumor recurred 2/88 (? pseudoprogression). Tumor shrank from 4/88 to 1/11 (? late response to RT). Recurred 5/89 and patient died 4/90.

Patient 2. RT until 10/87, showed “signs of progression” 2/88 and 4/88 (? pseudoprogression). Tumor shrank from 4/88 to 1/89 (? late response to RT).

Patient 3. RT 4/87 – ? and chemotherapy ? – 7/88. The CT taken after chemotherapy ended and before antineoplastons started is missing. Tumor appears to have slowly shrunk and calcified. New lesions appeared 18 months after antineoplastons started and then resolved, but no biopsy was done so we don’t know what they were. There is no evidence that this tumor was growing after conventional treatment.

Patient 4. NCI team commented “possibly juvenile pilocytic astrocytic astrocytoma”. Pilocytic astrocytoma is generally considered a benign tumor. Grade I pilocytic astrocytomas like this one are not associated with recurrence after complete resection and after a incomplete resection, the 10-year survival rate is as high as 45%. The patient had survived 6 years at the time of the review.

Patient 5. RT 1/90 to 3/90. MRI on 4/9/90 showed progression after RT (? pseudoprogression). Tumor shrank between 5/18/90 and 7/25/90 (? response to RT). Tumor then grew and patient died 1/1/91.

Patient 6. RT 10/89 to 11/89. Showed progression 1/90 (? pseudoprogression). First available MRI 1/2/90, tumor shrank steadily after this (? response to RT).

Patient 7. RT 10/87 to 11/87. Started antineoplastons 7/8/88. No pre-treatment scan available. Received varying doses of steroids continually from beginning of treatment to present. Also given methotrexate. Tumor 4.0 x 4.8 cm on 8/22/88 (the team noted “highly necrotic”) and 3.1 x 5.5 on 9/19/90, which doesn’t seem to be a great response.

The records of 4 patients (1, 2, 5 and 6) are consistent with post-radiotherapy pseudoprogression followed by a partial or full response.
One patient’s records (4) are consistent with an incomplete resection of a benign tumor with survival well within the expected range.
In two patients (3 and 7) the essential CT or MRI that would indicate if the tumor was growing after conventional treatment is missing, so it is impossible to say if the apparent response was due to conventional treatment or to antineoplastons.

@ Jim

Have ANY of you bloggers visited […] and watched any of the video testimonials on the home page by patients that have been CURED of “incurable” cancers?

A few of the usual readers of this blog did, yes.
Did you follow on these testimonials to make sure that these people were still cured?
Orac has been checking regularly on new patients, like here.

Actually, that would interest us greatly is a sound study of Burzynski’s treatment compared to conventional treatment, if any. Or simply a retrospective study of all of his patients, including the ones which were not cured.

For some reason, he has been registering the start of many studies with the FDA for the past 30 years, but study completions have been rare and results unimpressive.

Jim,

There’s a video?!!! Oh, that changes everything! I guess Burzynski really is a brave, maverick hero doing the impossible.

It amazes me when people like Jim pop in to a blog, don’t read a word, and post garbage like he did. What he doesn’t understand, or realize, or want to learn, is that most of us have been analyzing Burzynski and his media presence for over a year. Every single shred of “evidence” Stan has presented has been scrutinized and torn apart over and over again, by doctors, scietists and researchers who konw a lot more than Jim does (or I do). Does Jim really think we’re not aware of those video testimonials?

Next thing you know he’ll post about the Merola commercial for Stan.

(Is it just me who finds the similarity between the surnames Merola and Mercola just a bit too coincidental?) 🙂

Speaking of coincindences, as I’ve been reading through this thread today I’ve seen two PSA commercials for St. Jude’s Hospital on TV.

Merry Christmas to those celebrating.

Militant Ag,

That OTHER Burzynski Patient Group site is a work in progress, and every day new cases are being added (including one today). It’s a familiar story: a seven-year-old boy, it’s a cyst, it’s breaking up, it’s a good sign, blah blah blah. The blogger keeps pointing out the similarities in all these stories to the recent Amelie Saunders case, so it seems like it’s Stan’s M.O. to lie to each and every patient about the tumour growth. One case he cites goes back to mid-nineties, so he’s been singing this song about the cyst for 20 years.

I can’t believe there no malpractice recourse available for his incompetence or dishonesty.

@ MSII,

I’ll be celebrating soon with a pair of 750ml Mc Chouffe brown beer and Chouffe double IPA tripel 😀

Merry Christmas 🙂

Alain

Wow…1 1/2 litres of beer! Are you sharing?

Lately I’ve been enjoying L’alchimiste’s IPA (more like a classic American pale ale) and Boreale’s IPA on tap was very good last month–lots of fresh green hops on the nose and the palate. I’m still looking for a bottle of McAuslan’s Ste-Ambroise IPA (limited distribution) and will buy a sampler of Simple Malt’s “Hops” series tomorrow when the gourmet grocery store near me reopens.

We’ll have to meet at le Mondiale de la Biere this summer. I usually go alone since my friends are not beer geeks and it’s not really their thing. I can cover more ground and talk to more brewers on my own anyway.

Enjoy your beer. I’m still doing double espresso shots (Metropolis Redline from Chicago roasted five days ago.)

See you later this week. I’ll e-mail you later to set up something more specific.

I can’t believe there no malpractice recourse available for his incompetence or dishonesty.

45 CFR 46.116: “No informed consent, whether oral or written, may include any exculpatory language through which the subject or the representative is made to waive or appear to waive any of the subject’s legal rights, or releases or appears to release the investigator, the sponsor, the institution or its agents from liability for negligence.”

Narad,

IANAL–can you explain that clause in layman’s English? Where is that clause taken from?

Have ANY of you bloggers visited the site:
http://www.burzynskipatientgroup.org

Your are aware, Jim , that this website was set up by Marc Stephens — a Burzynski employee specialising in the dark arts of Google-search manipulation — to advertise Burzynski’s clinic in a plausibly-deniable way?

IANAL

ObMeNeither.

–can you explain that clause in layman’s English? Where is that clause taken from?

It’s from the portion of the Code of Federal Regulations that applies to clinical trials. I had gotten myself to wondering to what extent Burzaynski might be able to shield himself by means of liability waivers or mandatory arbitration agreements. He cannot immunize himself from negligence. This suggests to me, although I do not know, that the full menu of civil remedies is probably available.

a Burzynski employee specialising in the dark arts of Google-search manipulation

Of the Streisandian variety, of course.

the full menu of civil remedies is probably available.
Choose any one tort from Column A and two from Column B.

@MSII

(Is it just me who finds the similarity between the surnames Merola and Mercola just a bit too coincidental?)

It’s not just you. I have to remind myself every time I see either of those names.

A few months ago several of us posted about the BBC episode on Great Ormond Street hospital that featured Luna Pentagine. The one image that stuck with me was the reaction of Luna’s doctor when she returned from Houston and was told what her sodium level was as a result of ANP.

Here’s a screen capture of his shocked face. The photo says it all.

http://twitter.com/rjblaskiewicz/status/277285176281792514/photo/1

This is the doctor whose advice the parents ignored and went to Burzynski, even though Luna seemed to be doing well at GOS. Her mother wanted better odds and “researched” Burzynski on Dr. Google.

Of course most of us know Luna died a few months ago.

@Narad

Kind of begs the question. By the time Burzynski’s through with them, none of his victims have any money left for lawyers.

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December 21, 2012
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@Krebiozen
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Indeed the “Phase III Trial of Combination Antineoplaston Therapy and Radiation Therapy, Study to Evaluate Children with Newly-Diagnosed Diffuse Intrinsic Brainstem Glioma” seems to be wishful thinking on the part of Burzynski, and never had any real substance other than the guff generated by the brave maverick himself who went looking for Big Pharma partners to run the trial for him and then announced it to the (commercial) world.
More smoke and mirrors.
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_____And no one can accuse you of “FACT CHECKING.”
http://www.twst.com/interview/26532
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_____Narad
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December 21, 2012
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Antineoplaston A10 (Atengenal) and Antineoplaston AS2-1 (Astugenal)
Am I the only one who finds these attempted trade names even more hysterically funny than the usual outputs from trained marketing professionals?
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_____ME: No one can accuse you of “FACT CHECKING” either. Attempted? Both of these have been accepted Federally.
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December 21, 2012
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Narad,
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Am I the only one who finds these attempted trade names even more hysterically funny than the usual outputs from trained marketing professionals?
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You’re not alone. They sound like something out of a bad 50s sci-fi movie: ‘Invasion of the Antineoplastons – evil aliens Atengenal and Astugenal from the planet Burzynski seek world domination but are defeated by the FDA’.
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_____Coming from people who don’t know how to use a Medical Dictionary to find that “Genal” is “of the Cheek,” I don’t think SRB has anything to worry about coming from y’all.
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December 21, 2012
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Seriously, though, is there any discernible provenance for the “-genal” suffix? The clumsy phoneticism of the first parts is one thing (I need to file away “Ettugenal”), and it’s not quite at the level of slapping the label “Zingo” on lidocaine, but still.
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_____Krebiozen
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December 21, 2012
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As you observed, obviously the names are sort of text-speak phonetic representations of the codes Burzynski gave them, but the “genal” part makes no sense to me at all.
According to Quackwatch A-10 (Atengenal) is 3-N-phenylacetylamino piperidine 2,6-dione (PAPD), which is insoluble, treated with alkali to make it soluble. But doing this does not create a soluble form of A-10. It simply reinserts water into the molecule and regenerates the phenylacetyl glutamine PAG (Burzynski’s AS-2.5). AS2-1 (Astugenal) is Atengal further treated with alkali which breaks it down into a mixture of phenylacetic acid and phenylacetyl glutamine.
So Atengenal is just phenylacetyl glutamine and Astugenal is a mixture of phenylacetic acid and phenylacetyl glutamine. Why anyone would expect these normal metabolic waste products to be effective against cancer, or any other disease, beats me. If they are so good for us, and prevent or cure so many diseases, why do we excrete them in our urine? Since phenylacetate is a breakdown product of phenethylamine, which is found in chocolate, why isn’t chocolate a cure for cancer?
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_____But then again, the use of Horse Serum probably astounded you back in the late 1800s.
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December 21, 2012
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“Astwomiflam” would have been a nice coinage.
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_____ME: Nara-d-flimflam.
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December 21, 2012
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Narad
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December 20, 2012
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It’s funny how the FDA is evilly trying to shut down and incarcerate Burzynski but they allowed him to create a Phase III — on paper only since all subjects were supposed to be accrued almost a year ago but none have been — so that proves the FDA believes his claims. According to the ever-courteous DJT.
Wrong attribution, moron.
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_____I’m just trying to Dumb Down to your level. I could have brought up the TMB-SOAH 12/8/2010 – 11/19/2012 failure vs. SRB.
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Now, try to summarize your Ethan Allen–like legal assault on the tyrannical forces of “Gub’ment.” You can rest assured that nobody at all is interested in actually making your acquaintance.
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_____ME: Having to restate the obvious that has already been posted for you to read seems to be your modus operandi. As if you think I have nothing better to do then go back & copy/paste the same information. for you again & again & again.
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This is not responsive, Pretend Lawyer Type. By the way, is there some reason that you are now sticking periods between grafs?
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_____To see who spends more time focusing on dots rather than “FACT CHECKING.”
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December 21, 2012
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@djt
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Do try harder at your pathetic attempts at insult, your idiocy is quite amusing. I’ve had 6 year olds make better insults than you have tried to attempt.
Keep dancing for me, my little puppet, your utter failure at elementary school logic is entertaining. I’ve got another batch of popcorn ready to munch on while you try to entertain me.
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_____ME: Did you generate that from a SPAM generator like flipSPAM? Because it wouldn’t surprise me.
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Creaming the corn and buttering the pop
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December 22, 2012
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@Squidymus
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December 19, 2012
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Avoid waste your time on this website link, fully unrelated in order to conversation.
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_____ME: Don’t worry, I didn’t!
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Proof that you fail at reading comprehension. For someone who is so familiar with fancy new fangled technology like IMDB, you certainly can’t tell the difference between a comment and spam.
If out of every group of 7 people, 2 died, that leaves more than 50% of the patients surviving, which would be more than the above 50% of 2,400 = 1,200.
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1,200 survivors out of 2,400 would NOT be 0.2%.
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It would be 50%.
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So it could then be theorized that there were MORE survivors than 1,200 (50%) & thus more survivors than 0,2%.
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That disproves your theory without even having to use any further mathematical manipulation of one’s gray matter.
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7 minus 5 does NOT = 0.2%.
Holy frick. Your math teacher at school needs to be fired. I seriously hope you don’t operate any machinery, build anything, or in general work in a manner that requires you to follow safety codes based on equations.
I guess the FDA must think they are safe & effective enough to proceed to Initiate Pivotal Phase III Trial.
And you do not understand the difference between submitting a trial for approval, and having completed said trial and publishing the results for all to see.
Why would I Google Poe when I don’t even Google myself?
What. The. F*ck.
Definitely, let’s go with you & your group of “Geniuses” instead of people like Dr. James Watson, discoverer of DNA & involved in the Human Genome Mapping Project.
You still haven’t worked out what the ‘strawman’ part was: here’s a clue. I never said my experience was better than anyone else’s. It doesn’t need to be: we really on evidence here, not experiences. Gibbering ghost, you’re thick.
Oh, so Dr James Watson has some peer-reviewed papers published showing the efficacy and safety of antineoplastons? If so, I’ll definitely look at the link for that. And if not, well, he’s pretty much irrelevant to the issue of Burzyinski and his trials, isn’t he?
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_____ME: He’s relevant even though you’re irreverent since it’s fair to say he’s more knowledgeable about the supposed “War on Cancer” than you.
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So, that’s a ‘no’ then?
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Try “Flippirrelevantidiomism!”
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Very good sweetheart, now try and leave your own irrelevant comments somewhere else. Ooops – that would mean you’d be posting nothing but empties, wouldn’t it?
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What you do in the bathroom is YOUR business, so I don’t want to hear about your “Netscaping!” And I DEFINITELY do not want anything to do with your “dongle!!”
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I guess that proves my point. Either you really think that’s a double entendre, or you’re making really unoriginal jokes. Either way, you’ve shown yourself utterly incapable of talking like an adult.
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… Does Squidymus think that simply posting the citations is enough? Maybe this little troll has only gotten far enough in their education to have recently been taught about bibliographies, and hasn’t worked out that you can’t just add citations at will – they have to actually back up your statements.
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_____ME: I am obviously doing much better at it than your “IT.”
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Again, you prove my point for me.
There’s no evidence to suggest that antineoplastons have any significant activity against cancer … but they might have very minimal anticancer activity.
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And there’s no way of knowing this until he publishes the results of his trials. Or someone does an independent trial. You seem to have missed the fact that most of us would agree with you: there may be potential. Where we disagree is the willingness to simply take Burzyinski’s word for it.
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Thank Goodness! Next you might start posting about HTML!!
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FSM forbid you learn something useful. Like how to make your comments legible.
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Says the Village Idiots son.
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Touche again me old ectoplasmic byproduct!
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“This should be interesting…”
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_____ME: If only it weren’t coming from a 15 year-old!
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Touché me old chum. That totally proves that Burzyinski isn’t lying!
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_____ME: But it totally proves that you are!
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Marg, is that you? Judith? Come out come out wherever you are! No, seriously, the “I know you are, but what am I?” tactic has been used by more sensible people than you and it *still* didn’t work. Why do you think this is an adequate debate tactic?
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… So after all that … it’s a “no” then for having access to peer-reviewed clinical results of Burzyinski’s trials?
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____ME: That’s the question you can’t seem to answer, but with your Alcolytes up your rectal cavity I can understand why you & they couldn’t dig through all the Asplundh.
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F* me you are stupid. We’re the ones *asking* for the peer-reviewed clinical results to be posted. Why the hell would we provide the answer for you…. oh right… because we’re dealing with a dunder-headed ethelred.
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Says Bungholio, Lord of the Harvest!!
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LOL! Ok, this one actually made me laugh…
And the sum of your comments can be given as this:
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Random blather; no evidence for any assertion, particularly Burzyinski’s clinical trial results. Or, what Krebiozen said.
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This is funnier than how Marg ended up going out. She looks so tame in comparison to this total ad hominem flame-out. Squidymus has been thoroughly and utterly been trounced. The evolution of Squidymus’ comments show a certain, ahem, unravelling.
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Got another batch of popcorn ready, for the entertainment djt the fool provides.
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Oh goody! Thanks for sharing
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I can’t believe you had the patience to post that math-for-dummies thing. I struggle a lot with math, and even had to have instruction with figuring out percentages – but even I could work out what was wrong with his “math” without thinking about it. It’s just so self-evidently … facepalm.
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_____All that above Beavis & Butthead commentary all for nothing, since I showed how pompous your posts were, before the 25th.
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December 22, 2012
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Didymus Judas Thomas
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“Looking for Imbecils”
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All u need is a mirror, child
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_____Luckily it’s up on the SpaceStation & shines a light on you.
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_____herr doktor bimler
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December 22, 2012
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Looking for Imbecils
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“It is a mark of insincerity of purpose to spend one’s time in looking for the sacred Emperor in the low-class tea shops.”
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@flip: “I can’t believe you had the patience to post that math-for-dummies thing.”
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Well, I really do think that at some level the foul-mouthed brat really did want to know what was wrong with the computations, and it seemed cruel to keep mocking him (about that, anyway) without at least trying to explain. But I doubt the explanation will do any good, because I doubt he has any grasp at all of fractions. Look above where he argues that, if five out of every seven survive in a population of 2400, then more than 1200 survive because 1200 is half of 2400 and 5 is more than half of 7. *Sigh*. He has no idea how to get the correct number, and I’m not going to waste my time explaining it to a foul-mouthed, ungrateful troll.
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_____Your “New Math” Genius Wizardry already destroyed before the 25th. Hope you liked your present.
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December 22, 2012
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LW,
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If the 7 cases were a random sample of the population of 2,400 that last computation would make some sort of sense. But there weren’t, the 7 cases were Burzynski’s “best case scenario”, and so the computation makes no sense at all. It does seem more than a little unlikely that 1,700 brain cancer patients have been cured by Burzynski, which is what you would expect if what the Sepia Troll appears to be suggesting were true.
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_____How convenient for you to disregard my quote after that part.
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_____LW
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December 22, 2012
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@Krebiozen: “If the 7 cases were a random sample of the population of 2,400 that last computation would make some sort of sense.”
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Oh, absolutely. But my point is that he doesn’t even know how to compute the number to make that argument. The best he can do is feebly say that 5 is more than half of 7, so if 5 out of every 7 survive, more than half survive. This indicates total ignorance of fractions.
And if indeed 5 out of 7 of Burzynski’s patients survived, he’d be a hero and the tabloids, at least, would be knocking down his doors and we wouldn’t be having this conversation. The fact that only five survived out of his seven best cases which he personally chose out of 2400 is quite telling.
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_____If only it were based on anything as remotely as annoying “FACTS.”
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December 22, 2012
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Just forget him. He is evidently innumerate, illiterate, illogical and intransigent. he doesn’t want to talk about Burzynski, he knows nothing about the subject.
He is just a troll looking to start a flame war.
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_____Hope you enjoyed the coal you got in your stocking.
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_____Antaeus Feldspar
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December 22, 2012
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_____Orac:
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“…I have to wonder whether Dr. Burzynski just hired Merola to make an infomercial”
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” Merola claims the movie was his idea, but I have a hard time believing it.”
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_____Orac, who attaches an article to his blog where Merola clearly states his motivation, and it WASN’T being hired by SRB!!
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Diddums seems to be attempting the following sorites:
1) No one, even people taking dishonest actions, ever offers dishonest accounts of why they took those actions.
2) Merola claimed a totally aboveboard motivation for making his Burzynski infomercial.
3) Therefore Merola’s motivation for making his Burzynski infomercial was totally aboveboard.
4) Orac does not believe that Merola’s motivation for making his Burzynski infomercial was totally aboveboard.
5) Therefore, Orac is completely ignorant and all his testimony is impeached.
The problem is of course that premise 1 is bull-doots, and therefore there’s no logical force to any part of the argument.
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_____ME: Did you actually have a relevant point in there anywhere?
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Yes, I did. And furthermore, I think every single person who isn’t you clearly understood that relevant point.
I’m so sure of that that I’m going to make that an open offer: anyone other than Diddums can speak up and say “I don’t understand what point you were getting at there” and I will answer (on that point or any other I’ve made in this thread, in fact.) If no one else feels the need for such an explanation, it pretty much means that the only person who thinks Diddums’ endless carping and harping has any weight, any value, any relevance to the conversation – is Diddums.
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_____Your “point” was already dealt with before the 25th. Hope you enjoyed the gift.
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December 22, 2012
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@Antaeus Feldspar
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I think that everyone with a good understanding of rational thought and critical thinking skills can understand what you are saying.
Which means that djt surely is a prime example of Dunning-Kreuger in action.
But then again, if djt posts, we’ll get to see it even more, as proof that he knows not what he is talking about.
I’ve got another batch of popcorn ready, just in case djt decides to provide us with more proof that he is on the wrong side of the curve.
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_____Says the mentor of Beavis & Butthead. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. He said “Butthead!”
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Salt and sugar popcorn… it’s good!
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December 23, 2012
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@LW
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I don’t know – I think this is just your average internet troll looking for attention. I don’t think he’s here to learn, just to ‘rile’ people up. Hence my quite unusual tone and playfulness with him. If I thought he was here for a real conversation, I’d try a lot harder to be polite.
Still, it’s always worth explaining for the lurkers.
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_____Yep, THAT sure proved you right!
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7) Therefore no more than five patients out of approximately 2400 actually survived.

OMG – reading through the cases listed here:

http://theotherburzynskipatientgroup.wordpress.com/

Given that Dr. B is “treating” a certain category of Cancers & the majority of these patients go down the same path / progression of the disease, it seems extremely safe (and horrible) to assume that the treatments are doing “NOTHING” other than draining the bank accounts of the patients-in-question.

The numerous examples of “the tumor is dying from the inside” followed by, oh wait, the tumor is actually progressing, followed by eventual patient death, is absolutely horrifying the read.

How can the doctors at the clinic continue to tell patients that same thing, over and over again, and not either realize they are part of an enormous scam, or just perhaps the treatment isn’t doing what it is supposed to be doing?

I’m bookmarking the website & promise that it will be posted wherever I find a pro-Dr. B poster….this man is a monster.

Lawrence,

Either Burzynski is the most incompentent doctor on the planet or the biggest liar. Either way, he should be shut down and thrown in jail to rot for the rest of his days.

Here’s an example of the money-grubbing never-give-up approach his sales team used on one patient profiled on that website, Adam:

We received a call yesterday that shocked both of us to the core. Adam’s lesions have grown since the last MRI 8 weeks ago, and there is now a third lesion. The treatment didn’t work. It’s worked for so many others. It is the one treatment that gave us any hope of Adam seeing the boys grow up. He probably won’t ever get to meet his grandchildren. He probably won’t see his boys get married or finish school. He may not ever get to hear Finlay say “Daddy”.

What is all the more galling, that after failing to help Adam in any meaningful way, the Clinic suggested that he come back and start a NEW course of treatment:

We don’t know what we are supposed to do next. We have discussed a few options, but they all look so awfully wrong. The Burzynski clinic is encouraging us to come back to Houston so he can start gene-targeted therapy. It just feels wrong. First of all, we need to come up with $30,000 to start the other treatment, not to mention all the expenses of going down there. It makes both of us nauseous just thinking of going back to that place and starting over. The monthly cost of the treatment is over $20,000. And it has a much lower rate of success than the antineoplastons.

I’m just curious, as I’m relatively new here: what does it take for Orac to invoke a ban on a poster? Has it ever happened? I think it might be time now…

Sockpuppetry is usually the only banhammer-worthy violation around here. IMHO, Squiddly Diddly’s simple stupidity isn’t likely to arouse Orac’s ire…

_____Coming from people who don’t know how to use a Medical Dictionary to find that “Genal” is “of the Cheek,” I don’t think SRB has anything to worry about coming from y’all.

The sad part is that Squiddles actually seems to be expending effort to assemble moronic utterances such as this. No, suffixed “-genal” does not denote “of the cheek,” you cognitive onion field. ‘Gena’ is a first-declension Latin noun that refers to both cheeks and eye sockets. Given the provenance of “antineoplastons,” a better attempt would have been “Asturinal.”

12/23 Comments:
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Krebiozen
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December 23, 2012
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I wasn’t going to bother with Squidymus but in passing I note of his latest “FACTS” that the two “Harvard reports” he refers to are nothing of the sort, they are both essays written by law students. Even if their information did happen to be correct, why he thinks that claiming that Burzynski treated more than 2,400 patients is helpful to his claim I don’t know (5 is an even lower percentage of 3,000 than it is of 2,400 after all). Neither do I understand why he thinks that dead patients would be able to demonstrate outside a courtroom, or why the fact that Burzynski has supporters demonstrates that many of his patients survive, especially since we know that relatives of his dead patients are, for some reason, among his most ardent supporters, Eric Merola for example.
Be that as it may, I was interested in the testimony that Dr. Patronas gave, and was able to find a source for the original document (PDF), again at the inadvertantly helpful Burzynski the Movie website. I hadn’t seen the cross examination of Dr. Patronas before, since Squidymus omitted it, for some reason (I doubt it was for brevity). In it we find out that Dr. Patronas and his team did not get to actually look at the patients’ medical records, these were held onto by Dr. Burzynski who only gave them whatever information he decided was relevant. We also find out that some of these patients were being treated with steroids which we know can temporarily shrink tumors, as well as Methotrexate and Vincristine, which are conventional chemotherapy drugs while they were being treated with antineoplastons. How can anyone conclude that the responses of these patients had anything at all to do with the antineoplastons?
I also managed to find the NCI report on the patients that Dr. Patronas and his team looked at, if anyone’s interested. You can find it by Googling “647904-correspondence-buryznski-stanislaw-1.pdf” and then use the Quick View option – it’s in the Willliam Clinton library and the direct link doesn’t seem to work. The report is in the middle of a lot of other documents.
The first interesting things I note is this:
On October 4, 1991, CTEP staff (Dr. Michael Hawkins, Dr. Michael Hamilton, Dr. Dorothy Macfarlane) and invited consultants (Dr. Nicholas Patronas, neuroradiologist, NIH Clinical Center, and Dr. James Nelson, neuropathologist, AFIF) visited the offices of Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski in Houston, Texas to review seven selected brain tumor cases which Dr. Burzynski felt represented the best responses achieved with Antineoplastons A-10 and AS2-1 treatment.

This confirms that these cases were indeed Burzynski’s selected best cases. I am currently amusing myself by examining these cases in detail.
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_____The 2 Harvard reports from the Harvard Law School:
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A. Carol R. Berry, Food & Drug Law, Professor Peter Barton Hutt, Harvard Law School
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B. Stennes, Matthew L., contributor.advisor Hutt, Peter Barton
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_____And you ASSUME that about 3,000 people die with no outcry. Yeah … THAT’S believable.
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_____And you obviously believe that dead patients parents &/or relatives can’t demonstrate outside a courthouse.
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_____And you don’t understand that the 19 relatives called as witnesses were called by the PROSECUTION, not by the Defense (SRB). What this means is either that:
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a. the Prosecution attorneys were extremely stupid for not Deposing THEIR Witness before trial so that they would know what their testimony was going to be, or
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b. that the Prosecution knew what their testimony was going to be but called them anyway because they were inept litigators,
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c. that the Prosecution could not find any relatives of dead patients who would say anything bad about SRB,
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d. or that the Prosecution witnesses lied to the Prosecution about what their testimony was going to be before the trial, & when the Prosecution was questioning the witnesses during trial & they testified differently than before the trial, that the Prosecution didn’t bring this dichotomy to their attention.
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_____And you find THAT Believable.
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_____Sooo … I see you didn’t type out the complete cross-examination, but omitted it, for some reason (I doubt it was for brevity).
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Pg. 116
1. there was a presentation of the cases by Dr. Burzynski;
2. each different case was studied seperately.
3. We were given the history,
4. the pathology,
5. the previous treatment and
6. the timing of these treatments.
Pg. 117
7. Then the histological slides
8. We reviewed the slides and confirmed the histological of the grade of the tumor
9. Then there were assessments of the images, either CT scans or CAT scans, or MRI scans.
Pg. 119
10. we all looked at images and we saw the chronological order.
11. We checked the names of the patients on the films, and the files were obtained at different institutions from the entire country, basically where the patients were located.
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_____Exactly WHAT page(s) of that 49 page set of documents supposedly is the NCI report?
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Krebiozen
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December 23, 2012
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Humph. Sorry about that. Looks like I just identified a bug in my preview program, in which my comment displayed perfectly. The link works anyway, please just ignore the fact the rest of the text is underlined.
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_____Yeah, Humph is what I thought when I read your post.

Sockpuppetry is usually the only banhammer-worthy violation around here.

Well, and attempted threadjacking, although I suppose these have a habit of going hand-in-hand.

12/23 Comments:
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Antaeus Feldspar
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December 23, 2012
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I’m glad to not be wasting time on Diddums anymore. If he can’t even figure out “how do you format comments so that people can tell what you’re quoting and what’s your own words?” why would anyone think he’s sorted out the truth of Burzynski?
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_____Thank Goodness. I couldn’t ask for a better present than THAT from someone who couldn’t answer:
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12/1 – Antaeus Feldspar, your absurd conclusion is that you would rather spend more time & energy re SRB who you have not provided any information as to how much he has been fined, …
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12/3 – Antaeus Feldspar, Please cite the post(s) & their date which you misguidedly think exists, proving that my guru is Stanwey.
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12/15 – Antaeus Feldspar, Are you using the “New Math” where you live?
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12/16 re 15 – Antaeus Feldspar, And your “FACTS” are supported by what unsubstantiated source?
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12/16 re 15 – Antaeus Feldspar, 3. FACT: You have provided NOT one scintilla of evidence that you have read any of the publications noted above in my post to MarkL.

12/23 Comments:
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flip
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Firing up the popcorn popper
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December 23, 2012
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@Squidymus
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1. Your “New Math” completely ignores the 2 Harvard reports I’ve posted about previously:
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AHAHAHAHAHAH! Oh, I’m so glad I wasn’t drinking or eating when I read that. Seriously Squidymus, you are priceless!
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_____Yeah, good thing too! LW thinks that out of about 3,000 dead patients, the PROSECUTION couldn’t find ANY of their parents/relatives who would testify to anything bad about SRB!! Can You believe THAT “IT!!!”

12/23 Comments:
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LW

December 23, 2012
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The iDJiT’s two fifteen-year-old Harvard law student essays have not, of course, been ignored. Here is my comment on “The Dividing Line Between the Role of the FDA and the Practice of Medicine: A Historical Review and Current Analysis”, from which we learned that Burzynski ignored the FDA for twenty years (1977-1997) during which he treated approximately 3,000 patients.
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_____Yet LW can’t explain how Phase I Clinical Trials were being done; as listed on the National Cancer Institute at the National Institutes of Health cancer . gov web-site, while SRB “ignored the FDA.”
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/antineoplastons/healthprofessional/page5

12/23 Comments:
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LW
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December 23, 2012
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And here is my comment on “The Criminalization of Innovation: FDA Misdirection in the Najarian and Burzynski Cases”, from which we learned that “Burzynski openly defied both the FDA’s regulations and a federal court order specifically directed at him for fourteen years before the FDA finally brought charges against him. Moreover, he “treated” patients for AIDS and Parkinson’s with his antineoplastons.”
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_____But then again, “patients have malpractice claims against their health care practitioner if the drug or device causes harm.”
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“In contrast to the tort system which merely attempts to compensate for tragedies that have already occurred, the FDA is empowered by Congress to intervene & prevent harm to the general public.”
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“As indicated, the FDA currently permits some unapproved uses of drugs & medical devices, without proof of safety & efficacy, yet prohibits others.”
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“The U.S. v. Article’~ court stated that the FDA’s responsibility was to protect the ultimate consumer, which included protection of “the ignorant, the unthinking & the credulous.”‘
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_____So, this could include people on this blog.
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“In this case, the ultimate consumer is the patient & therefore it should be the FDA’s responsibility to protect patients, even from their doctor if necessary.”
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(an off-label us of a medical device may subject a physician to malpractice liability)
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It has been argued that FDA involvement in this area is not necessary because market forces are sufficient to control physician’s unapproved uses via malpractice (deviation from FDA approved use may be evidence of negligence) & insurance reimbursement (insurer may not reimburse unapproved medical treatments) .
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“Patients do not have to be informed that the medication or device they are being prescribed is not approved by the FDA for the patients’ intended use.”

“The Klein court stated that “[o]f f-label use of a medical device is not a material risk inherently involved in a proposed therapy which a physician should disclose to a patient prior to the therapy. . . . Accordingly, we conclude that failure to disclose FDA status does not raise a material issue of fact as to informed consent.”‘
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“The patient is therefore potentially at greater risk once a device or drug has been approved then if the same item merely had investigational status.”
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“When a drug or device is still being tested but is available to human subjects, the FDA provides for stringent controls on informed consent.'”

_____The 2 Harvard reports from the Harvard Law School:
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A. Carol R. Berry, Food & Drug Law, Professor Peter Barton Hutt, Harvard Law School
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B. Stennes, Matthew L., contributor.advisor Hutt, Peter Barton

These remain papers by law students. They are no more “Harvard reports” than an undergraduate essay. Moreover, you haven’t offered anything original, much less intelligent, to say about either. It’s just “NOTE 50!!1!!” and other aimless cut and paste.

So as well as not understanding that a law suit does not equal science, Squidymus’ has provided yet more fact-free word salad.

And in place of actually answering my questions, has simply blathered with lame puns.

Why am I not surprised?

@Antaeus Feldspar

Apparently you are my mentor. Or so says Diddums. As my mentor, would you like to tell me how to best prepare popcorn?

Wow…1 1/2 litres of beer! Are you sharing?

I wanted to but everyone stayed with their beverage (which consisted of budweiser, unibroue 12 pack mix, smirnoff cooler and a few other commercial stuff).

Alain

“The U.S. v. Article’~ court stated that the FDA’s responsibility was to protect the ultimate consumer, which included protection of “the ignorant, the unthinking & the credulous.”‘

Holy Christ. That line is actually from Florence v. Dowd, a 1910 trademark case, and the decision being invoked (a case involving seizure of bottles of “Sudden Change by Lanolin Plus,” a “face lift without surgery”; 409 F.2d 734). The whole idea is that it didn’t actually do anything but advertised itself as such.

An amicus brief from the Toilet Goods Association is always a winner, though. One however wonder whether you had a point in mind to start with, as the only one that would seem to be available offhand is that Burzynski is really selling cosmetological preparations or something.

I wanted to but everyone stayed with their beverage (which consisted of budweiser, unibroue 12 pack mix, smirnoff cooler and a few other commercial stuff).

I take it that you are aware of the Budweiser–clam juice horror marketed as Chelada.

I take it that you are aware of the Budweiser–clam juice horror marketed as Chelada.

Nope but it must be horrible.

Alain

12/23 Comments:
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LW

December 23, 2012
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@Krebiozen: ” (5 is an even lower percentage of 3,000 than it is of 2,400 after all)”. And you think he knows that?
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_____And YOU actually believe his theory is viable!
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Shay
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December 23, 2012
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@LW
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Perhaps DJT belongs to the homeopathic school of mathematicians.
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_____I belong to the School of Rock.
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Shay
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December 23, 2012
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@LW
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Perhaps DJT belongs to the homeopathic school of mathematicians.
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_____I also belong to the School of FACT-CHECKING. 😉
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Narad
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December 23, 2012
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_____ME: If you can’t draw the correlation between successful Japanese Clinical Trials & Orac’s blogging:
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_____”Whenever Burzynski does a trial, the results come out as promising, with minimal or mild toxicity. When other researchers do a trial with his neoplastons, the results aren’t nearly as promising; in fact, the results are pretty much always negative, and significant adverse reactions are observed…”
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_____I’m not surprised since you can’t answer:
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_____”Narad, good question. Who are you?”

“Last Christmas somebody gave me a whole Jimson weed—the root must have weighed two pounds; enough for a year—but I ate the whole goddamn thing in about twenty minutes…. they said I was trying to talk, but I sounded like a raccoon.”
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_____I told ya ta stay ‘way from da wacky weed Mon!
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Marc Stephens Is Insane
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December 23, 2012
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Narad,
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You’re Hunter S. Thompson?!!!
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_____Wrong AGAIN!! 🙂
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Narad
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December 23, 2012
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You’re Hunter S. Thompson?!!!
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That passage is actually Acosta speaking. The entire adrenochrome chapter is absurd, but it was the first thing that occurred to me upon Squiddle’s latest descent into incoherence.
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_____You remind me of Charles Darwin’s “Theory of Evolution,” which is why it’s just a “Theory.”
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Marc Stephens Is Insane
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December 23, 2012
I don’t know why you guys even bother with him anymore. I gave up weeks ago, once I realized what we were dealing with.
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_____And it’s been so nice around here! 😉
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_____I guess you didn’t have the COBOLS to answer:

12/1 – Marc Stephens Is Insane, did you access the link(s) & information & actually read what it’s about?
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What am I trying to prove that’s unproveable?
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What was Orac’s motivation for writing his comments on:
12/5/11 “[D]espite all of the attempts of Dr. Burzynski and supporters to portray them otherwise antineoplastons are chemotherapy…” &
12/12/11 “Why do his supporters (and, let’s be honest, Dr. Burzynski himself) portray his therapy as “nontoxic” and “not chemotherapy…” &
1/20/12 “…contrary to Dr. Burzynski’s claim that he doesn’t use chemotherapy…”
though my post indicates this is not the case since at least the book 11/1/2006.
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12/2 – Marc Stephens Is Insane, please provide FACTUAL proof to prop up your deluded statement that “I guess Didy didn’t bother to read those information sheets either.”
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12/2- Marc Stephens Is Insane. please cite any post(s) & their date which support your misguided allegation that I am “spending so much time defending Stan.”

If Squidymus has any intelligence at all, he must be beginning to get a grip on the information being presented here and getting a strong sense of how poor the evidence supporting Burzynski actually is. The truth has a habit of seeping into the thickest skull.

For example, Burzynski is said to have treated 3,000 patients between 1977 and 1997, which is 150 patients each year. SEER estimates that, “13,700 men and women will die of cancer of the brain and other nervous system in 2012”. Since Burzynski generally treats terminal cancer patients who are very unlikely to survive, it is quite believable that about 150 of Burzynski’s patients die every year without any outcry at all. Most people who have lost a loved one are too worn out and grief-stricken to muster much outrage.

To labor a point made many times by others, Burzynski makes no promises to cure these patients, he is kind, charismatic and very persuasive. He lubricates the process of relieving these people of their money with charm and false hope, and no one likes to admit that they may have made a terrible mistake. This is much more credible than assuming that 1,700 of Burzynski’s terminal cancer patients have survived, which is necessary for Squidymus’s risible calculation to be even close to correct. Where are these 1,700 remarkable survivors that Squidymus ASSUMES exist?

As for the court case against Burzynski, I don’t find it all unbelievable that the relatives of patients who died despite his care would still support him, nor do I find it unbelievable that lawyers could be incompetent, nor that the FDA could bungle a prosecution. None of these things are in any way evidence that Burzynski’s treatments work.

12/23 Comments:
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Lawrence
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December 23, 2012
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@MSII – I gave up trying to even comprehend what he was trying to say – not even sure what’s he’s responding to….
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_____THAT’S so YOU!!!
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11/29 – Lawrence, “links … don’t say what [I] think they say?” Please cite where I said what the links would say.
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12/1 – Lawrence, when Orac whined that SRB “got off on a technicality,” did you ask him to offer a “real retort” like SRB did not “get off on a technicality,” but he got off because the law is the law?
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12/3 – Lawrence, please enlighten me on how my 2 11/28 posts were proven incorrect, for example.
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12/3 – Lawrence, Once again you have not answered my 12/3 question to you.
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12/15 (12/10 Comments:) – Lawrence, Speaking of “not understanding,” you don’t seem to understand how to answer my question of 12/3 which you haven’t responded to.
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December 23, 2012
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Wow, that last comment Squidymus has shown he’s well and truly lost the plot. I mean, more than usual.
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_____I think a lot of people on this blog truly “Lost ‘IT'” before I showed up! 😉
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Alain
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December 23, 2012
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If I was DidySquat psychiatrist, I’d despair….
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______Sigmund Freud was a Fraud.
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Antaeus Feldspar
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December 23, 2012
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I wonder if he even realizes that every time he emits another “Says the one who [improbable urological practice]!!” it pretty much reads as a concession?
If he could find an error in our facts, he’d point it out.
If he could find an error in our logic, he’d point it out.
The logical conclusion is that every time he quotes someone just to reply “Says the __________ who ________!” he’s admitting in front of everyone reading that he cannot find any flaws in the facts or the logic of those he’s replying to.
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_____The “FACT” is that very few people on this blog have much “LOGIC!” 😉
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novalox
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Waiting for baseball season to start
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December 23, 2012
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Boy if we were keeping score, djt would be batting 0.000, way below the Mendoza line, with multiple errors to boot.
Heck, he probably would be batting in the negative numbers if it were allowed
But his continued inability to answer the simplest questions, along with his utter infantile insults, shows off his continued admission that his position is untenable.
The only thing left is to treat him as out personal punching bag and laughingstock, which he has supplied perfectly, with his continued idiocy and juvenile insults.
So, keep posting djt, we need laughs at your expense. Realize that you are now just here for our entertainment, nothing more. I’ve got some more popcorn to laugh at your continued idiocy and support of a quack and fraud.
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_____Sure Novaexlax. Keep living in the Fantasy Baseball League you live in where you keep dropping the ball, choking up on the bat, being a switch hitter, striking out, never getting to first base, until you’re “outta there!”

“…contrary to Dr. Burzynski’s claim that he doesn’t use chemotherapy…”
though my post indicates this is not the case since at least the book 11/1/2006.

Twaddle. Many of the patients whose testimonials are presented at The Burzynski Patient Group website thought that they were getting something other than chemotherapy. Either Burzynski misinformed them or he has terrible communication skills. For example:

Jessica Ressel Interview. Brain Cancer Cured by Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski with NO Chemo or Radiation Therapy
[…] For a year and half, Jessi received her antineoplaston treatment as a slow intravenous drip through a chest catheter, 22 hours a day.

And:

Kelsey Hill Interview. Lung & Liver Cancer Cured by Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski with NO Chemo or Radiation Therapy
[…] Her parents declined all chemotherapy treatment and chose antineoplaston treatment instead.

And:

Jodie Gold Fenton Interview. Brain Cancer Cured by Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski with NO Chemo or Radiation Therapy
[…] She declined chemotherapy and radiation treatment and choose antineoplaston treatment instead.

And:

Lt. Col. James Treadwell. Brain Cancer Cured by Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski with NO Chemo or Radiation Therapy
[…] After surgery, chemotherapy and radiation treatment failed to affect his cancer, he chose Antineoplaston treatment.

And:

Susan Hale Interview. Brain Cancer Cured by Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski with NO Chemo or Radiation Therapy
[…] After two surgeries, 6 weeks of radiation, and gamma knife radiation failed affect her cancer, she chose Antineoplaston treatment.

And:

Teresa Kennett was diagnosed with Stage IV Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma in 1984. She refused to undergo chemotherapy or radiation and chose Antineoplaston therapy instead.

I could go on (and on). Antineoplastons are supposed to selectively kill cancer cells, and to be less toxic to normal cells. This is the very definition of cytotoxic chemotherapy.

We also know that Burzynski uses conventional cytotoxic chemotherapy as well as antineoplastons. The NCI report mentioned vincristine and methotrexate, for example, both of which are conventional chemotherapy drugs. That’s not even getting into his more recent “targeted therapies” which are conventional chemotherapy drugs used off-label. For example Betty Whyte (or Wright) who appears in the Burzynski Movie trailer, and whose merkel cell cancer was treated by Burzynski with Pfizer’s chemotherapy drug Sunitinib.

12/24 Comments:
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Marc Stephens Is Insane
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December 24, 2012
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“I just found a new website by chance and wanted to pass it along.”
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“Of the thousands of patients who have gone to him and emptied their bank accounts at his feet, a very, very few have survived.”
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_____And what is YOUR definition of “very few?”
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“From the position of an informed patient advocate…”
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_____YOU are informed?
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“…have not been adequately tested for safety and which causes hypernatremia in his patients.”
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_____Funny, because I don’t see Hypernatremia listed as an adverse effect on the National Cancer Institute at the National Institutes of Health cancer . gov Adverse Effect list re Antineoplastons:
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/antineoplastons/healthprofessional/page6
_____I do see Hypernatremia listed as a relatively common problem:
http://www.uptodate.com/contents/etiology-and-evaluation-of-hypernatremia?source=outline_link&view=text&anchor=H1#H1
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He has initiated over 60 phase II studies over the decades and seems to have completed exactly zero of them.
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_____Like this zero completed Phase 2?
http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00003509?term=Burzynski&recr=Completed&phase=1&rank=1

Burzynski defined successful treatment as “stable disease,” a lowered standard that no other oncologist or researcher accepts.
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_____So, if I had a brainstem glioma & it could be stopped from spreading further, that’s NOT a good thing?
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_____”Brainstem glioma is an aggressive and dangerous cancer. Without treatment, the life expectancy is typically a few months from the time of diagnosis. With appropriate treatment, 37% survive more than one year, 20% survive 2 years. and 13% survive 3 years.”
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainstem_glioma
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“select the cases you get to see…”
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_____Unlike this blog you’re hyping?
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_____So, like the Testimony of Dr. Nicholas Patronas where I pointed out the 2 deaths?
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“Kudos to whomever put this website together.”
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_____Yeah, I was SO impressed when right off the bat I read:
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_____”They initially might have had a difficult time finding a place to stay because refugees from Hurricane Katrina had been arriving in Houston, but they were set up in an apartment:”
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_____WHAT? Do we really need someone posting GIGO like that?

@DJT – you mean that study “completed” over 7 years ago, but with no results actually published?

DJT, if you might spare a kindness, please state one way or the other whether you are in fact “Citizen Jimserac,” mail-order-Ph.D. audiologist.

You remind me of Charles Darwin’s “Theory of Evolution,” which is why it’s just a “Theory.”
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Really?

Sigh.

@djt

Try some better insults, yours is just too predictable.

Of course, dealing with a anti-science wacko like you, infantile insults seem like the only thing you can put out.

But I’ll just keep on laughing at your pathetic efforts, anyway, so please keep on dancing, little false prophet.

12/24 Comments:
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lilady

December 24, 2012
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@ Marc: I’ve bookmarked that link and double kudos to that blogger.
What’s with “diddums”?
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_____I actually know how to “FACT-CHECK.” 🙂
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novalox
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December 24, 2012
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@djt
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Yawn, more pathetic attempts at insults. But it is so funny to see an idiot like you try to attempt it.
Isn’t it past your bedtime, little one?
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_____A “FACT-CHECKER” must be ever vigilant, since the Tu-Quackers don’t even take 12/25 off.
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flip
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Ate all the popcorn, now starting in on the cookies
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December 24, 2012
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_____How do those computer cookies taste? 😉
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Marc Stephens Is Insane
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December 24, 2012
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Lilady and flip,
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“And the blogger raises some very valid points about how involved Stan is with each client and how the TMB blew it in their decision.”
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_____So, where were these people between 12/8/2010 & 11/19/2012?
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LW
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December 24, 2012
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The mountain has labored and brought forth a mouse.
DJT scoured the Web for proof of Burzynski’s Phase III trials, and here’s what he found.
On January 6, 2009 (that would be almost four years ago, DJT), someone from the FDA emailed that the protocol was approved for the trial of antineoplastons+radiation vs. radiation.
And what happened next? Was the trial itself (not the protocol) ever approved? Was it ever started?
No.
*Yawn*. So much for that “evidence” of the effectiveness of Burzynski’s “treatments”.
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_____”Effectiveness” was NOT the question, but don’t let that stop your Non-Fact-Checking, able to count to 4 using 2 hands, self.
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_____And if you knew how to “FACT-CHECK,” you would know:
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“On February 23, 2010, the Company entered into an agreement with Cycle Solutions, Inc., dba ResearchPoint (“ResearchPoint”)”
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“ResearchPoint is currently conducting a feasibility assessment.”
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“Upon completion of this assessment, a randomized, international phase III study will commence.”
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/121015/bzyr10-q.html
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_____So, you do not know what the feasibility study results were?

@AdamG:

You remind me of Charles Darwin’s “Theory of Evolution,” which is why it’s just a “Theory.”
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Really?

Sigh.

But don’t you see the marvelous malleability of reality? Darwin’s Theory of Evolution is “only a theory” because Narad reminds DJT of the Theory. If only Narad had stayed away from Respectful Insolence this month, all the quibbling about Darwin’s Theory of Evolution would never have happened and the theory would be accepted fact. All these decades of fighting the creationists are Narad’s fault!

Squidymus blathers

You remind me of Charles Darwin’s “Theory of Evolution,” which is why it’s just a “Theory.”

Yep, I was right for calling him a creationist. What a maroon!

Seriously, there’s nothing here to debate. Squidymus can’t spell, argue, theorise, hypothesise, count, or joke his way out of a paper bag.

@Narad

DJT, if you might spare a kindness, please state one way or the other whether you are in fact “Citizen Jimserac,” mail-order-Ph.D. audiologist.

The writing styles don’t seem very similar. Citizen Jimserac seems to be far more… skilled with vocabulary, to put it mildly. I’ve only looked at a handful of sites though, so I could be wrong.

12/24 Comments:
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LW
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December 24, 2012
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And then DJT refers us to this Phase III trial. Ah, yes, I remember it fondly. It seems like only a year ago we were talking about that trial … oh, wait, it was a year ago. I had fun posting progress reports on time remaining to enroll participants. And we find, a year later:
Estimated Enrollment: 70
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Study Start Date: December 2011
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Estimated Study Completion Date: December 2015
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Estimated Primary Completion Date: December 2013 (Final data collection date for primary outcome measure)
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And he still hasn’t enrolled seventy participants and started his study: “This study is not yet open for participant recruitment.”
*Yawn*. So much for that “evidence” of the effectiveness of Burzynski’s “treatments”.
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_____YAWN! So much for you actually understanding the process:
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_____And you continue to play ign’nt, or maybe you actually are!
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_____Didymus Judas Thomas
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Searching for the 0.02%
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December 20, 2012
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12/10 Comments:
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_____ME: And if you were actually paying attention to what’s going on you would understand that:
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1. There are costs associated with a Phase III Clinical Trail, and therefor funds have to obtained,
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2. Patients of a sufficient number need to be obtained who specifically fit the “Children with Newly-Diagnosed Diffuse Intrinsic Brainstem Glioma” category,
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3. Parents need to be convinced to allow their Children to have their Brains be exposed to Radiation,
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4. And there may be other factors as well.

@ iDJiT,

Really, you’re saying that we have to wait until 2015 to evaluate the phase III clinical trial to have an opinion of Burzinski threatment?

Nothing about the numerous phase II clinical trials?

Alain

12/24 Comments:
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LW
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December 24, 2012
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Finally, DJT asks,
So you admit the Phase II didn’t need to be published since the FDA approved Phase III?
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First, there isn’t one Phase II trial, there are dozens. Second, trials tend to study the response of one disease to one protocol (remembering that “cancer” is not a single disease). Look at the title of the (one and only) Phase III trial: “A Randomized Study of Antineoplaston Therapy vs. Temozolomide in Subjects With Recurrent and / or Progressive Optic Pathway Glioma”.
Assuming this trial were ever started and assuming it were ever published, that would only tell us how antineoplastons work — or don’t — in that specific disease. But there are many other kinds of brain cancer that Burzynski purports to treat in his dozens of Phase II trials — how do antineoplastons work in those kinds of cancer? The results of all of those trials need to be published even if they were unsuccessful.
It is just possible that antineoplastons are effective when given in just the right dosages, in combination with just the right other treatment, to just the right kind of cancer. It is just possible that there is a clue in the unsuccessful trials (I assume they are uniformly unsuccessful or they would have been published) which Burzynski hasn’t identified but someone else could … if he would just publish the results of the trials. Since he didn’t pay for the trials himself — the patients did — their destitute families deserve to have those results published. They should see something come from their loved ones’ suffering.
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_____And if people on here would do some “FACT-CHECKING” instead of some of them being too scared to go on certain web-sites, they would know that the following has been requested:
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1. “…the results from Phase 2 clinical trials of Antineoplastons need to be … audited by Congress,”
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2. I think it should be readily apparent that there is no reason for SRB to trust the FDA considering their past conduct,
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3. I also think it should be readily apparent that there is no reason for SRB to trust the NIH considering their past conduct.
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Krebiozen
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December 24, 2012
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Squidymus seems to be becoming even more deranged. What is the point of all these obvious lies? Is this some sort of clumsy imitation of humor? It’s strange and a bit sad.
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_____What’s really strange & sad is that you can’t find a lie, so you try to invent them.
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Antaeus Feldspar
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December 24, 2012
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And here I was thinking “Well, DJT is racing fast towards rare depths of obstinate idiocy BUT at least he hasn’t devolved into free-form poetry like D-chniak…”
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_____I could be like people on here who probably believe Lola Quinlan without question, but haven’t read:
http://m.click2houston.com/news/Houston-cancer-doctor-draws-new-complaints-from-patients/-/16714936/8581480/-/hmrbjk/-/index.html
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http://www.jag-lawfirm.com/burzynski-suit-kprc-02012012.html

12/24 Comments:
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flip

Eating turkey and cranberry and potatoes… no popcorn in sight
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December 24, 2012
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@Squidymus
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I never posted that they HAD to have HAD radiation, I indicated they would have to HAVE radiation
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Your fumblings with English aside, none of your deranged droppings prove that Burzyinski has done much of anything except steal people’s money.
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_____Is THAT the best you can do? THAT is Lame Like a Duck!
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Narad
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December 24, 2012
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_____Narad
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December 20, 2012
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Squiddles, your faulty yet prompt phraseological appropriations are duly noted. Do you understand what this means?
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_____ME: Nara-d-Clue, your correctly incorrect misappropriated paraphrasing is notedly dull. Verstehen Sie?
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You lose, jizzmop.
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_____Only YOU would know what a “jizzmop” is, since I’m sure you use it daily.
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lilady
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December 24, 2012
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Stick a fork in this turkey…he’s overdone.
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____You’re eating overdone Turkey? How’d ya like the giblets?
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Krebiozen
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December 24, 2012
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Still no Phase II trial results. Someone needs to learn that repeating the same misinformation over and over doesn’t make it true.
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_____Why is it you can’t cite any Law or Regulation that requires your seal of approval?
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_____Are you also claiming that no Phase I Clinical Trials were published?
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_____If no Phase I Clinical Trials were published, how is it that Phase II Clinical Trials were authorized without your seal of approval?
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Lawrence
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December 24, 2012
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@DJT – I see a lot of “hearsay” that patients were “saved” by Dr. B – but I don’t see any evidence, especially not of published results of all of those Phase II trials you are so happily trotting out as evidence….saying a trial was conducted is a heck of a lot different than publishing the final results – of which, Dr. B has not.
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_____See above. Maybe you can assist Krebiohazard.
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Renate
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December 24, 2012
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_______”The prosecution called as witnesses 19 relatives of Burzynski patients who have died, but none of them had anything bad to say about him. Instead, they insisted that the defendant had given them complete and honest information, and that he operates a high-quality, health care facility.
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Of course they do, they don’t want to picture themselves as being the victim of a fraud. I think this is called “cognitive dissonance”.
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_____So … you also believe the close to 3,000 dead patients “theory,” but have no explanation as to put of all the parents/relatives of those patients, the Prosecution was unable to find at least ONE person who would testify against him under oath?
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_____Are you a “Conspiracy Theorist?”
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AdamG
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December 24, 2012
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_____”If out of every group of 7 people, 2 died…”
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I just cannot get over how utterly backwards this is. How can someone actually think this is a logical way to approach calculating a rate?
If the overall survival rate was in fact 5/7, why would a group of his 7 best cases include 2 people that died?
Didy just doesn’t understand the difference between random and nonrandom sampling. It’s both amusing and sad.
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_____And what’s amazing & sad is that you actually believe the “Magic Bullet” Theory!
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_____Oh, wait!! You ARE the one who couldn’t answer:
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11/29 -AdamG, What solar system are you living in?
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11/29 – AdamG, please cite the “FACTS” which buttress your unproven inane statement that “It’s clear that [I] didn’t actually read [your] link.
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I’m not even going to waste my time answering your last question since I answered your question about what planet I live on but you did not answer my question about what solar system you’re from.
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12/1 – AdamG, you have not yet advised me what solar system you are living in.
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_____NOT amazing at all!!!

11/29 -AdamG, What solar system are you living in?

The same one as you. The one that contains the Earth.

11/29 – AdamG, please cite the “FACTS” which buttress your unproven inane statement that “It’s clear that [I] didn’t actually read [your] link.

If you had read my link, you would have realized that it is not true that the NIH budget has doubled in the past 5 years. If you did read my link, good for you, it just means that you agree that the article you cited referring to the NIH budget is out of date.

Now, math time. If the overall survival rate was in fact 5/7 (~70%), why would a group of his 7 best cases include 2 people that died?

12/24 – 26 Comments:
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flip
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Eggnog anyone?
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December 24, 2012
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Pleases let the University of Berkeley know so their Evolutionists will know, the next time they pull off a Double Helix during one of their REvolutionary shows: […] Probably the same amount as actually read my previous post, instead of burying their heads in the dirt during a Charle Darwin REvolutionary show:
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Finally, Squidymus’ true colours are revealed. Welcome to creationism land, where evidence doesn’t matter.
What a nincompoop! “On the side of truth” my shiny metal ass.
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_____THAT explains why you reminded me of the Tin Man from the Wizard of O!
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_____You squeak a lot & someone needs to oil your metal ass!!
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LW
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December 24, 2012
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Krebiozen:
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Squidymus seems to be becoming even more deranged. What is the point of all these obvious lies? Is this some sort of clumsy imitation of humor? It’s strange and a bit sad.
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Yeah, I feel bad mocking him, but it’s hard not to when he is so thoroughly unpleasant.
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_____Ya’ll are so full of hot air.
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Shay
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December 24, 2012
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DJT — Still no published clinical results (self-aggrandizing interviews are not proof). And your math (don’t blame it on Dr Patronas) still sucks rocks.
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_____Shay, still can’t do any research on your own?
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_____Still believe in the “I see 3,000 dead people” “Conspiracy Theory?”
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MarkL
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December 24, 2012
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As i have said previously,
This guy is innumerate, illiterate, illogical and intransigent. He knows nothing about Burzynski, nothing about cancer and obviously nothing beyond 2nd grade math.
He is simply a troll. Nothing more, nothing less. He will take a contrary point of view from anyone else here, that appears to be his raison d’etre. Time we ignored him, and let him disappear.
Feeding trolls is a bad habit.
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_____Or they could feed a Liar like you!
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_____Are you hoping you’ll be cast in Jim Carey’s role in “Liar, Liar Phase II?”
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AdamG
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December 24, 2012
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DJT is an evolution denier? Now it all makes sense. That kind of arrogant ignorance of basic math is a hallmark of the creationist mind.
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_____I believe you were created in the image of Piltdown Man.
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Alain
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December 24, 2012
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Which is why I prefer to not kill my Brain cells!!!
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Yeah, you’ve given them a good beating already.
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_____I don’t even care to think of what you’ve been giving a good “beating.”
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Narad
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December 24, 2012
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Which is why I prefer to not kill my Brain cells!!!
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This is what is properly known as begging the question.
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_____Yes, why do you believe in posting twice?
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Narad
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December 24, 2012
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Which is why I prefer to not kill my Brain cells!!!
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This is what is properly known as begging the question.
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_____Ditto.
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LW
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December 24, 2012
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DJT quotes my lengthy explanation of the proper method of computing percentages and then gloats,

“_____ME: And you did all the above for naught!!!”
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Well, yes, I rather feared it would be for naught, but there was that tiny chance that some part of DJT’s mind was reachable. But no, DJT is proudly and defiantly ineducable. He must be a joy to have as a student.
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_____I doubt you could teach me anything, considering your past record.
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flip
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December 25, 2012
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Most of y’all don’t know what you’re posting about.
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Well played me old megacycle!
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And if you would actually research the subject before just indiscriminately posting GIGO, you would know that the goal was to do multiple Phase III Clinical Trials.
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Oy. You need help. Please ask your school teacher for some assistance in reading comprehension.
In the meantime, feel free to explain why “evolutionist” is a valid term….
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_____flip who can’t answer questions…:
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Didymus Judas Thomas
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KreBLOGisphere (Part 5)
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December 19, 2012
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12/17 Comments:
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12/8 – flip. See my 12/4 response to: “Lawrence, read between the lines.”
Have you ever considered that maybe you’re posting too much garbage if you need to scroll up to remember what you posted?
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12/15 – flip, too busy reading Jesse Ventura’s Book: “Conspiracy Theory?”
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_____…wants answers.
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_____evo·lu·tion·ist: a student of or adherent to a theory of evolution.
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Shay
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December 26, 2012
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@Narad
Kind of begs the question. By the time Burzynski’s through with them, none of his victims have any money left for lawyers.
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_____And I guess they do not know how to open the phone book or go on-line & look up Pro Bono Lawyer assistance.

@AdamG

If you had read my link, you would have realized that it is not true that the NIH budget has doubled in the past 5 years.

Given Squidymus’ previously demonstrated math skills, that is an unwarranted assumption.

Now, math time. If the overall survival rate was in fact 5/7 (~70%), why would a group of his 7 best cases include 2 people that died?

Because the 2 that died went to heaven?

Quoth the iDJiT, “_____I doubt you could teach me anything, considering your past record.”

I enthusiastically agree as does, I am sure, every reader of this post who isn’t the iDJiT. Plainly no one has succeeded in teaching the iDJiT anything since third grade, and he is quite proud of that record.

12/26 Comments:
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Marc Stephens Is Insane
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December 26, 2012
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I’m just curious, as I’m relatively new here: what does it take for Orac to invoke a ban on a poster? Has it ever happened? I think it might be time now…
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_____Whatsa matter Insane in the Membrane? Can’t handle anyone questioning your infallibility?
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Scottynuke
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December 26, 2012
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Sockpuppetry is usually the only banhammer-worthy violation around here. IMHO, Squiddly Diddly’s simple stupidity isn’t likely to arouse Orac’s ire…
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_____Last I heard, you were the only one with their hand in a sock puppet. Is Duke Nukem your daddy?
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Narad
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December 26, 2012
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_____Coming from people who don’t know how to use a Medical Dictionary to find that “Genal” is “of the Cheek,” I don’t think SRB has anything to worry about coming from y’all.
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The sad part is that Squiddles actually seems to be expending effort to assemble moronic utterances such as this. No, suffixed “-go j
enal” does not denote “of the cheek,” you cognitive onion field. ‘Gena’ is a first-declension Latin noun that
refers to both cheeks and eye sockets. Given the provenance of “antineoplastons,” a better attempt would have been “Asturinal.”
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_____I’m thinking more along the lines of Naranalgenalsiac.
http://www.medilexicon.com/medicaldictionary.php?t=36608
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Narad
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December 26, 2012
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Sockpuppetry is usually the only banhammer-worthy violation around here.
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Well, and attempted threadjacking, although I suppose these have a habit of going hand-in-hand.
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_____I’ve noticed a lot of “jacking” around on this blog, & it’s not been the thread variety.
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novalox
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December 26, 2012
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@djt
Yawn, try again.
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_____NovaLuxLuthor, open wide … insert foot!
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Narad
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December 26, 2012
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_____The 2 Harvard reports from the Harvard Law School:
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A. Carol R. Berry, Food & Drug Law, Professor Peter Barton Hutt, Harvard Law School
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B. Stennes, Matthew L., contributor.advisor Hutt, Peter Barton
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These remain papers by law students. They are no more “Harvard reports” than an undergraduate essay. Moreover, you haven’t offered anything original, much less intelligent, to say about either. It’s just “NOTE 50!!1!!” and other aimless cut and paste.
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_____Looks like Carol’s doing fine:
http://www.teelroeper.com/leadership/berry
_____… & Matthew:
“Matthew Stennes (’95): After graduating from St. Olaf in 1995, I attended Harvard Law School, where I graduated in 1998. After a clerkship with a U.S. District Court Judge in Minneapolis, I moved to Washington, D.C. where I worked as an attorney with Steptoe & Johnson, LLP, in their criminal defense practice group. I put my St. Olaf economics degree to good use, representing corporations & individuals in corporate fraud & other criminal cases, including in the federal investigations of accounting irregularities at Enron, Rite Aid, & Freddie Mac. In 2006, I took a position serving with the U.S. DoJ as a federal prosecutor in the Public Integrity Section of the Criminal Division. I am now busy prosecuting elected officials, government employees, lobbyists, & other individuals around the country for public corruption offenses.”
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_____And you?
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flip
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Bored now….
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December 26, 2012
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So as well as not understanding that a law suit does not equal science, Squidymus’ has provided yet more fact-free word salad.
And in place of actually answering my questions, has simply blathered with lame puns.
Why am I not surprised?
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_____YOU actually had a question?

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@Antaeus Feldspar
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Apparently you are my mentor. Or so says Diddums. As my mentor, would you like to tell me how to best prepare popcorn?
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Narad
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December 26, 2012
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“The U.S. v. Article’~ court stated that the FDA’s responsibility was to protect the ultimate consumer, which included protection of “the ignorant, the unthinking & the credulous.”‘
Holy Christ. That line is actually from Florence v. Dowd,…
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_____Way to go, Perfesser!
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One however wonder whether you had a point in mind to start with, as the only one that would seem to be available offhand is that Burzynski is really selling cosmetological preparations or something.
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_____I knew I could count on you to ignore:
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Didymus Judas Thomas
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In the Criminalization of Innovation room at the Tu-Quack Center
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December 26, 2012
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12/23 Comments:
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LW
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December 23, 2012
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“Burzynski openly defied both the FDA’s regulations and a federal court order specifically directed at him for fourteen years before the FDA finally brought charges against him. Moreover, he “treated” patients for AIDS and Parkinson’s with his antineoplastons.”
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Didymus Judas Thomas
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In the Criminalization of Innovation room at the Tu-Quack Center
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December 26, 2012
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12/23 Comments:
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LW
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December 23, 2012
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_____But then again, “patients have MALPRACTICE CLAIMS against their health care practitioner if the drug or device causes harm.”
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(an off-label us of a medical device may subject a physician to MALPRACTICE LIABILITY)
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It has been argued that FDA involvement in this area is not necessary because market forces are sufficient to control physician’s unapproved uses via malpractice (deviation from FDA approved use may be EVIDENCE OF NEGLIGENCE) & insurance reimbursement (insurer may not reimburse unapproved medical treatments) .
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“Patients do not have to be informed that the medication or device they are being prescribed is not approved by the FDA for the patients’ intended use.”
“The Klein court stated that “[o]f f-label use of a medical device is not a material risk inherently involved in a proposed therapy which a physician should disclose to a patient prior to the therapy. . . . Accordingly, we conclude that failure to disclose FDA status does not raise a material issue of fact as to informed consent.”‘
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“When a drug or device is still being tested but is available to human subjects, the FDA PROVIDES FOR STRINGENT CONTROLS ON INFORMED CONSENT.”
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Krebiozen
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December 26, 2012
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If Squidymus has any intelligence at all, he must be beginning to get a grip on the information being presented here and getting a strong sense of how poor the evidence supporting Burzynski actually is. The truth has a habit of seeping into the thickest skull.
For example, Burzynski is said to have treated 3,000 patients between 1977 and 1997, which is 150 patients each year. SEER estimates that, “13,700 men and women will die of cancer of the brain and other nervous system in 2012″. Since Burzynski generally treats terminal cancer patients who are very unlikely to survive, it is quite believable that about 150 of Burzynski’s patients die every year without any outcry at all. Most people who have lost a loved one are too worn out and grief-stricken to muster much outrage.
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_____Says the Master of Non-CiteFiction.
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To labor a point made many times by others, Burzynski makes no promises to cure these patients, he is kind, charismatic and very persuasive. He lubricates the process of relieving these people of their money with charm and false hope, and no one likes to admit that they may have made a terrible mistake. This is much more credible than assuming that 1,700 of Burzynski’s terminal cancer patients have survived, which is necessary for Squidymus’s risible calculation to be even close to correct. Where are these 1,700 remarkable survivors that Squidymus ASSUMES exist?
As for the court case against Burzynski, I don’t find it all unbelievable that the relatives of patients who died despite his care would still support him, nor do I find it unbelievable that lawyers could be incompetent, nor that the FDA could bungle a prosecution. None of these things are in any way evidence that Burzynski’s treatments work.
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_____Says the learned “Scholar” who mistakenly doesn’t “quote” me:
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_____Didymus Judas Thomas
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The Realm of where I question your MOTIVATION & GOOD FAITH
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December 17, 2012
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So 20 deaths out of 100 = 80% survival rate.
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That would be a base-line calculation.
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If you factor in that the survival rate may NOT have been as high as 80% because these were his Best Case Scenarios, we still come nowhere near your 0.2%
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_____Yes, I typed “NOT.”
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LW
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December 26, 2012
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@Krebiozen: “If Squidymus has any intelligence at all,”
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Assumption contrary to fact.
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_____Please continue with your erudite posts like the one below! 😉
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LW
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December 26, 2012
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@AdamG:
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Lawrence
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December 26, 2012
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@DJT – you mean that study “completed” over 7 years ago, but with no results actually published?
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_____Lawrence, I know this might come as a “Shock & Awe” to you … but:
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12/24 Comments:
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Marc Stephens Is Insane
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December 24, 2012
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He has initiated over 60 phase II studies over the decades and seems to have completed exactly ZERO of them.
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Narad
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December 26, 2012
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DJT, if you might spare a kindness, please state one way or the other whether you are in fact “Citizen Jimserac,” mail-order-Ph.D. audiologist.
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_____Yes I am a “Citizen,” or not an Naradiologist.
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AdamG
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December 26, 2012
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You remind me of Charles Darwin’s “Theory of Evolution,” which is why it’s just a “Theory.”
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Really?
Sigh.
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_____I was thinking of Intelligent Design until I saw some of the posts on here.
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novalox
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December 26, 2012
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@djt
Try some better insults, yours is just too predictable.
Of course, dealing with a anti-science wacko like you, infantile insults seem like the only thing you can put out.
But I’ll just keep on laughing at your pathetic efforts, anyway, so please keep on dancing, little false prophet.
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_____Is your Daddy Ba’al?
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LW

December 26, 2012
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@AdamG:
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You remind me of Charles Darwin’s “Theory of Evolution,” which is why it’s just a “Theory.”
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Really?
Sigh.
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But don’t you see the marvelous malleability of reality? Darwin’s Theory of Evolution is “only a theory” because Narad reminds DJT of the Theory. If only Narad had stayed away from Respectful Insolence this month, all the quibbling about Darwin’s Theory of Evolution would never have happened and the theory would be accepted fact. All these decades of fighting the creationists are Narad’s fault!
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_____Ohhh!! Is THAT what THIS post was for!!!
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LW
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December 26, 2012
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@AdamG:
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flip
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Will we make 1000?
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_____Not as long as you think we’re playing whiffle ball!!
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December 26, 2012
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Squidymus blathers
You remind me of Charles Darwin’s “Theory of Evolution,” which is why it’s just a “Theory.”
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Yep, I was right for calling him a creationist. What a maroon!
Seriously, there’s nothing here to debate. Squidymus can’t spell, argue, theorise, hypothesise, count, or joke his way out of a paper bag.
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_____I think it’s self-evident that you’ve been a proponent of the “Big-Bag” (of Wind) theory for quite some time now!
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@Narad
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DJT, if you might spare a kindness, please state one way or the other whether you are in fact “Citizen Jimserac,” mail-order-Ph.D. audiologist.
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The writing styles don’t seem very similar. Citizen Jimserac seems to be far more… skilled with vocabulary, to put it mildly. I’ve only looked at a handful of sites though, so I could be wrong.
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_____Don’t stop your losing streak now!! You could just continue to be wrong!!!
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Alain
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December 26, 2012
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@ iDJiT,
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Really, you’re saying that we have to wait until 2015 to evaluate the phase III clinical trial to have an opinion of Burzinski threatment?
Nothing about the numerous phase II clinical trials?
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_____See my previous post re audit by Congress.
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AdamG
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December 27, 2012
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11/29 -AdamG, What solar system are you living in?
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The same one as you. The one that contains the Earth.
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11/29 – AdamG, please cite the “FACTS” which buttress your unproven inane statement that “It’s clear that [I] didn’t actually read [your] link.
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If you had read my link, you would have realized that it is not true that the NIH budget has doubled in the past 5 years. If you did read my link, good for you, it just means that you agree that the article you cited referring to the NIH budget is out of date.
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_____It’s good to see you’ve now started paying attention, … somewhat.
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_____Didymus Judas Thomas
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The United States of America
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November 28, 2012
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_____Although the NIH budget has doubled in the past five years-with the implied purpose of encouraging the development of new drugs-the FDA’s budget remains inadequate to review these drugs for qualification.
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_____AdamG
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November 29, 2012
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_____AdamG, I take it that you did not click on the above links that I provided and read the contents thereof. Please view the 1st link re pdpipeline.
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Oh, I read the links. That doesn’t change the fact that this statement:
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_____the NIH budget has doubled in the past five years
Is completely, demonstrably false. If you’re willing to post such falsehoods, and then double down when caught in an obvious mistake, how am I to trust any of the sources you cite?
It’s clear you didn’t actually read my link, so here’s the actual report from Science on NIH funding:
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_____Didymus Judas Thomas
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The United States of America
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November 29, 2012
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_____AdamG, please cite the “FACTS” which buttress your unproven inane statement that “It’s clear that [I] didn’t actually read [your] link.
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_____When viewing that site were you able to draw a conclusion as to what years the NIH statement was referring to? I think the more important part of the statement is the part re the FDA. …
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November 29, 2012
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_____When viewing that site were you able to draw a conclusion as to what years the NIH statement was referring to?
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Given that the article was written in 2012, and that the statement refers to the past 5 years, the article is clearly claiming that the NIH budget doubled in the period from 2007-2012.
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Do you believe that this is a factual claim or not? If so, please cite the “FACTS” that support this unproven inane statement.
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For someone so focused on facts and proof, why won’t you acknowledge that this is an erroneous statement?
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_____Narad (Jumps on the wagon.)
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November 29, 2012
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_____Given that the article was written in 2012, and that the statement refers to the past 5 years, the article is clearly claiming that the NIH budget doubled in the period from 2007-2012.
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The only period since 1980 that the claim can accurately refer to is 1998–2003, which makes one wonder why it’s being parroted right here and right now. Actually, scratch that last bit.
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_____Didymus Judas Thomas
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Los Estados Unidos de America
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December 1, 2012
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AdamG, …
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_____So, you think it’s from 2012 but the link has 2011 in it.
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_____My research shows that that link was linked to another site as far back as 11/5/06, which as Narad pointed out, means that it likely applies to 1998-2003.
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_____NOW you can read the entire thing in context.
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Now, math time. If the overall survival rate was in fact 5/7 (~70%), why would a group of his 7 best cases include 2 people that died?
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_____IF; and I use the term “IF” loosely, like William Jefferson Clinton & his “It depends on what the definition of the word ‘is’ is,” we take it that you’ve been paying attention, …
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See below.
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Didymus Judas Thomas
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At The Respectful Insolence Courthouse
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December 16, 2012
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Pg. 118
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A: The basic conclusion was that in five of the patients with brain rumors that were FAIRLY LARGE, the tumor resolved, disappeared.
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Didymus Judas Thomas
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In an Ark riding out the waves, prepared for the end of the Mayan world
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December 17, 2012
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12/16 Comments:
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herr doktor bimler,
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“with no attempt to show its relevance to anything.”
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_____”THE TUMOR DISSOLVED” (pg. 118)
_____”But THE TUMOR WAS VERY BIG the last one, the seventh, last two cases did not survive, although THERE WAS DEFINITE IMPROVEMENT in one of the two last cases.” (pg. 119)
_____”you testified that five of the patients had their TUMORS RESOLVED.” (pg. 120)
_____”DISAPPEARED.” (pg. 120)
“Q: All right. What about these five patients that are all basically doing– how come they lived?” (pg. 122)
_____”Q: All right. What about these five patients that are all basically doing– how come they lived? (pg. 122)
A: Well, IT’s AMAZING, the fact that they are living and some of them are doing well. They are not– they are not handicapped from the side effects of any treatment, and worse than the tumor itself. So these particular individuals not only survived, but they didn’t have major side effects. So I think it is IMPRESSIVE and unbelievable.” (pg. 122)
_____”The TUMOR WAS VERY LARGE AND VERY INVOLVED the hypothalamus, a very sensitive part of the brain cannot be operated, and had both cystic components and fleshy components, mass like. AND THE LESION DISAPPEARED.” (pg. 123)
_____”In this particular patients case the tumor disappeared, and there was a small, tiny remnant left, small percentage of the original size. And there has been several years since then and the patient is well.” (pg. 123)
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_____Based upon the information above, it would be my OPINION that SRB was trying to show the EFFECTIVENESS of Antineoplastons on FAIRLY LARGE to VERY BIG TUMORS, as opposed to how many patients survived.

“Shay, still can’t do any research on your own?”

Orac’s blog, Orac’s rules. You make the statement, you provide the proof. Something you are spectacularly unable to do, at least based on the same citations you post over and over, which all fall into 2 categories.

1) They don’t support your claims OR
2) They are interviews, books, or videos. Not published results in reputable peer-reviewed journals..

Self-aggrandizing interviews with quacks =/= evidence. People who accept such “proof” are generally gullible, desperate, or have a stake in the con.

I’m repeating myself, but since the Sepia Troll has brought them up again, 6 of those 7 patients had radiotherapy before Burzynski saw them. In 4 of those 6 their tumor shrank within 6 months of radiotherapy which may well have been a late response. In the other two their tumors didn’t really shrink at all during treatment with antineoplastons. The remaining one who didn’t have radiotherapy may have had a benign tumor (juvenile pilocytic astrocytoma) that often requires no treatment after resection, and has a 10-year survival rate as high as 45%. At the time of the review he had survived 6 years.

Only one of these patients (Patient 5) had an unusually large tumor, which had increased slightly in size 1 month after radiotherapy (probably pseudoprogression) and had shrunk slightly 4 months after radiotherapy (probably a response to radiotherapy). Burzynski treated the patient with antineoplastons, methotrexate and vincristine but despite this the tumor grew and the patient died.

12/27 Comments:
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Militant Agnostic

December 27, 2012
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@AdamG
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If you had read my link, you would have realized that it is not true that the NIH budget has doubled in the past 5 years.
Given Squidymus’ previously demonstrated math skills, that is an unwarranted assumption.
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_____And your inability to read is duly noted.
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LW
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December 27, 2012
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Quoth the iDJiT, “_____I doubt you could teach me anything, considering your past record.”
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I enthusiastically agree as does, I am sure, every reader of this post who isn’t the iDJiT. Plainly no one has succeeded in teaching the iDJiT anything since third grade, and he is quite proud of that record.
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_____Let me know when you post something credible, like: “I have reviewed the over 20 INDEPENDENT Antineoplaston publications re research done in Japan since at least 1988 & have duly noted that INDEPENDENT research has shown that SRB’s research is plausible because of their Phase I & II Clinical Trials.”

All (excepting Didymus Judas Thomas) –

I understand the temptation of responding to as irritating and defenseless a poster as DJT. However, there was no further point to be made, in my estimation, several hundred posts ago; DJT’s numerous and lengthy posts alone will stand as sad representatives of the unbalanced sorts of minds that are (or try to be) defenders of Burzynski, so we should have no concern that the record in this regard needs further fleshing out.

Furthermore, I feel that it is increasingly obvious that DJT is suffering from some sort of mental illness, given the patterns in his posts and the overall bizarreness of his writings. To say that he has arrived unarmed to a battle of wits is to understate the case.

My suggestion is to simply cease responding. I don’t see the possibility of anything of substance emerging, and DJT’s quite saddening image has been unmistakably stamped on the Internet. All that remains is the limited pleasure of poking at the mental carcass.

Just my opinion, of course.

12/27 Comments:
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Shay
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December 27, 2012
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“Shay, still can’t do any research on your own?”
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Orac’s blog, Orac’s rules. You make the statement, you provide the proof. Something you are spectacularly unable to do, at least based on the same citations you post over and over, which all fall into 2 categories.
1) They don’t support your claims OR
2) They are interviews, books, or videos. Not published results in reputable peer-reviewed journals..
Self-aggrandizing interviews with quacks =/= evidence. People who
accept such “proof” are generally gullible, desperate, or have a stake in the con.
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_____Do you always resort to lying?
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_____Please provide a cite & date of any post I have made re:
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_____”Self-aggrandizing interviews with quacks =/= evidence”
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_____The National Cancer Institute at the National Institutes of Heath, cancer . gov, lists this as a Phase II Clinical Trial publication:
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/antineoplastons/healthprofessional/page5
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_____”A phase II study also conducted by the developer and his associates at his clinic reported on 12 patients with recurrent and diffuse intrinsic brain stem glioma. Of the ten patients who were evaluable, two achieved complete tumor response, three had partial tumor response, three had stable disease, and two had progressive disease. Patients ranged in age from 4 to 29 years. Treatment with escalating intravenous bolus injections of antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 continued for 6 months. The average dose of A10 was 11.3 g/kg daily, and the average dose of AS2-1 was 0.4 g/kg daily. Adverse effects included skin allergy, anemia, fever and hypernatremia, agranulocytosis, hypocalcemia, hypoglycemia, numbness, tiredness, myalgia, and vomiting.[12]”
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“[12] Burzynski SR, Lewy RI, Weaver RA, et al.: Phase II study of antineoplaston A10 and AS2-1 in patients with recurrent diffuse intrinsic brain stem glioma: a preliminary report. Drugs R D 4 (2): 91-101, 2003.”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12718563
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http://assets0.pubget.com/paper/12718563/Phase_II_study_of_antineoplaston_A10_and_AS2_1_in_patients_with_recurrent_diffuse_intrinsic_brain_stem_glioma__a_preliminary_report
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http://adisonline.com/drugsrd/pages/articleviewer.aspx?mobile=0&year=2003&issue=04020&article=00002&type=Abstract&desktopMode=true
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http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&cites=2463317484923053692&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&ei=xtnXUKyHOoX28wSy-ICwCQ&ved=0CC4QzgIwAA
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A 2003 Phase II clinical trial in Japan of 10 patients; 2 in stage I, 6 in stage II, 1 in stage III, 1 in stage IV-B, experienced 35 recurrence-free intervals during antineoplaston AS2-1 administration, which were significantly longer than those without antineoplaston AS2-1″
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12579278
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http://assets0.pubget.com/paper/12579278/The_preventive_effect_of_antineoplaston_AS2_1_on_HCC_recurrence
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http://www.spandidos-publications.com/or/10/2/391
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http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&cites=3611231307540428029&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&ei=GIDcUKLGLYHC9QTxjYG4BA&ved=0CC4QzgIwAA
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_____A lot of Tu-Quackers like to make the excuse that no independent researches are producing results with Antineoplastons. The Gub-ment says SRB’s publication is a Clinical Trial publication. If you disagree with the Gub-ment, that’s YOUR problem, not mine. If you disagree with with the Independent research in Japan, that’s YOUR problem.
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Krebiozen

December 27, 2012
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I’m repeating myself, but since the Sepia Troll has brought them up again, 6 of those 7 patients had radiotherapy before Burzynski saw them. In 4 of those 6 their tumor shrank within 6 months of radiotherapy which may well have been a late response. In the other two their tumors didn’t really shrink at all during treatment with antineoplastons. The remaining one who didn’t have radiotherapy may have had a benign tumor (juvenile pilocytic astrocytoma) that often requires no treatment after resection, and has a 10-year survival rate as high as 45%. At the time of the review he had survived 6 years.
Only one of these patients (Patient 5) had an unusually large tumor, which had increased slightly in size 1 month after radiotherapy (probably pseudoprogression) and had shrunk slightly 4 months after radiotherapy (probably a response to radiotherapy). Burzynski treated the patient with antineoplastons, methotrexate and vincristine but despite this the tumor grew and the patient died.
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_____Blah, blah, blah. And the reason I keep bringing it up is because the Tu-Quackers keep bringing it up.

_____I’m thinking more along the lines of Naranalgenalsiac.
http://www.medilexicon.com/medicaldictionary.php?t=36608

What part of “not a suffix” do you fail to grasp? Moreover, here’s a protip: You get what you pay for in lexicography land. The anatomical adjective for human cheeks is ‘buccal’. You know who has gena? Enjoy a clue on the house. Finally, why the f*ck, in the psychic miasma that you occupy, do you imagine that Burzynski has named his substances “A10 of the cheeks” and “AS2 of the cheeks”?

I am thoroughly bored now. There’s only so much fun to be had with a whiny screed that makes no sense. He’s just further devolving into silly rants and non sequiturs.

@OccamsLaser

I understand the temptation of responding to as irritating and defenseless a poster as DJT. However, there was no further point to be made, in my estimation, several hundred posts ago; DJT’s numerous and lengthy posts alone will stand as sad representatives of the unbalanced sorts of minds that are (or try to be) defenders of Burzynski, so we should have no concern that the record in this regard needs further fleshing out.

I agree. I was posting mainly for some fun, to watch Squidymus trip over his own two feet. Now I am bored and will stop talking to him.

I salute all of you commenters for your attempts to reach DJT. You have incredible patience; I’d’ve given up long ago. I don’t think it’s going to work, but you’ve certainly done due diligence and then some.

On behalf of the other lurkers, thank you.

12/27 & 31 Comments:
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Narad

December 27, 2012
_____I’m thinking more along the lines of Naranalgenalsiac.
http://www.medilexicon.com/medicaldictionary.php?t=36608
What part of “not a suffix” do you fail to grasp? Moreover, here’s a protip: You get what you pay for in lexicography land. The anatomical adjective for human cheeks is ‘buccal’. You know who has gena? Enjoy a clue on the house. Finally, why the f*ck, in the psychic miasma that you occupy, do you imagine that Burzynski has named his substances “A10 of the cheeks” and “AS2 of the cheeks”?
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_____What part of “prefix” do YOU not understand?
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_____Moreover, here’s a cotton tip: If you have your head in a hole in the ground or some other nether region, whenever you finally pull it out, a cotton tip swab will come in mighty handy
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_____Because it’ll probably take an A10 or AS2-1 between your cheeks before you “get it!!!” 😉
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flip
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December 27, 2012
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I am thoroughly bored now. There’s only so much fun to be had with a whiny screed that makes no sense. He’s just further devolving into silly rants and non sequiturs.
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I agree. I was posting mainly for some fun, to watch Squidymus trip over his own two feet. Now I am bored and will stop talking to him.
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_____It will indeed be a “Happy New Year!!! 🙂
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Khani
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Amazed
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December 31, 2012
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I salute all of you commenters for your attempts to reach DJT. You have incredible patience; I’d’ve given up long ago. I don’t think it’s going to work, but you’ve certainly done due diligence and then some.
On behalf of the other lurkers, thank you.
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_____Thanks for finalky coming out of your shell & enlightening everyone with your brilliance!!! 🙂

Thank you for confirming that you posting and you being quiet have the same level of informational value, Diddums.

Is that diddums guy for real?
Surely he must be a poe who is trying to make Burzy look even more morally bankrupt and scientifically inept than he can do on his own? If so he is succeeding beyond his wildest expectations.

What really upsets me is the media’s role in this farce. They write main page articles about the fundraisers for these poor victims and never do a follow up article after the treatment does nothing and the victim dies.These articles tend to help the fundraising efforts and get people to think that they are helping by sharing the cost of sending someone to a charlatan. I once wrote to one of the Detroit papers advising them that they were helping raise money to send someone to a quack that would only take the money with no evidence that he (Burzynski) has ever cured anyone. Of course I was ignored. I don’t know if the media just feel that false hope is better than no hope or if they only care about publicity irregardless of the results.

I have home made milk chocolate fudge with white chocolate swirls and chips. Will that do while we wait on the cookies?

@Niche Geek: Cookie Cookie Cookie starts with C! (Yes, I had a younger sibling who watched a LOT of Sesame Street when that song was popular. I can sing many of the songs from that time…)

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